Calculating rafter length

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Pete Donnelly

Pete Donnelly

Күн бұрын

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@satanandsawh2163
@satanandsawh2163 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your clear explanation. I needed to find this out for my DIY project. One does not have to attend carpenter's school for some years to be able to enjoy building something. Even non carpenters like to build. We do not know all the details so we need help. You were open minded and unselfish in sharing knowledge and special thanks to you for this. The world needs more people like you.
@charlesscott2913
@charlesscott2913 5 жыл бұрын
Listen, this explanation is perfect. What people aren't considering is that this is the theoretical line length. There are adjustments to be made to the stock. If you want the whole explanation take the 4 year course and spend the 8000 hrs in the trade and be a carpenter. Other wise sit back, relax and say thank you. Or hire a ticketed tradesmen. This is why trade time is expensive, because it's not as easy as watching a 9 min video. Thanks for the video.
@pegasus3862
@pegasus3862 2 жыл бұрын
@John Lowell right, some old school carpenters don’t like changing there ways tho
@Toyotaamazon80series
@Toyotaamazon80series Жыл бұрын
I believe he gave a good explanation of it except for the deduction for ridge thickness. I always subtract the ridge thickness from the span and then divide by two to get my run, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪
@wecomeinpeace5082
@wecomeinpeace5082 Жыл бұрын
​@John Lowell Well what are you waiting for? Go get your calculator and come make 6 figures with us. See you out in the field!!
@jackf498
@jackf498 5 жыл бұрын
the run of 14ft should also be converted to inches so the half inch extra of the sheathing can also be accounted for when calculating the line length of the rafter ...so 14x 12= 168....then add .5 ...so 168.5x 14.42= 202.48in.........=202and 7/16
@sc00b3y
@sc00b3y 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that. Thanks for clearing that up
@AdorableDeplorable711
@AdorableDeplorable711 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing multiplication the same way I was taught! Very refreshing! Thank you for helping me!
@derrickwoodberry7237
@derrickwoodberry7237 4 жыл бұрын
Man thank you for the simplified answer.
@gregl2249
@gregl2249 2 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration-wish you would have continued down the framing square to show valley and jacks
@alpc8539
@alpc8539 3 жыл бұрын
To the point and very easy to follow, instead of some complicated equations 👍
@UpcomingJedi
@UpcomingJedi Жыл бұрын
I find it helpful he explains those numbers on the framing square. The math is simple. A^2+B^2=Sqrt(C^2). Basic algebra really.
@MyFortressConstruction
@MyFortressConstruction 2 жыл бұрын
4:26 No overhang discussed and won't be in this video. Video then loops.
@davidnunes299
@davidnunes299 8 жыл бұрын
Where is the next video, please? I want to bring the American culture here to Brasil. You're so smart and secure. Thank you for the sharing and dedication!!
@rauldemexico3306
@rauldemexico3306 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me what culture you are talking about?
@cedarpoplar
@cedarpoplar 2 жыл бұрын
I look at the numbers and I get overwhelmed. I take a few seconds to see what .88 x 16 = 14.08 means and I realize 14/16s it's 7/8s. Then I think to myself: "was that it?!" I'm drowning in a glass of water
@ouroboros5378
@ouroboros5378 4 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary your explanation! Thanks from chile 🇨🇱
@carsondinwoodie5840
@carsondinwoodie5840 5 жыл бұрын
Still thinking of doing part two of the rafter lesson?
@Oiuytkjhgfmnbvc
@Oiuytkjhgfmnbvc 3 жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for. Thankyou
@MrMaraspini
@MrMaraspini 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great explanation. That totally helped me for class. dont see your over hang video.
@muhammadwaqas7807
@muhammadwaqas7807 12 күн бұрын
Very nice 🎉🎉
@BillyMustang101
@BillyMustang101 6 жыл бұрын
So much easier with the metric system working out angles, lengths etc
@pinarellolimoncello
@pinarellolimoncello 5 жыл бұрын
you're going off on a tangent...
@stevebengel1346
@stevebengel1346 5 жыл бұрын
@@pinarellolimoncello 🤣
@redsresearch
@redsresearch Жыл бұрын
Don't you have to take off more then 3/4 if the slope rises above a 4?
@EDDIEGARAGE
@EDDIEGARAGE 6 жыл бұрын
how to determine the pitch (6,12) or (4,12) or (5,12) or (3,12) and so, so why is so problematic the overhang thanks
@liamg1995
@liamg1995 4 жыл бұрын
To determine the pitch of an existing roof, it is possible to determine the pitch using a framing square and a level. Hold the level on the blade of the square and hold the square so the 12" mark on the intersects the roof line and the tongue is pointing down. Then adjust the square and level until the level reads level. Then read where the roof line intersect on the tongue of the square. This is the pitch of your roof.
@liamg1995
@liamg1995 4 жыл бұрын
To determine the pitch of an existing roof, it is possible to determine the pitch using a framing square and a level. Hold the level on the blade of the square and hold the square so the 12" mark on the intersects the roof line and the tongue is pointing down. Then adjust the square and level until the level reads level. Then read where the roof line intersect on the tongue of the square. This is the pitch of your roof.
@liamg1995
@liamg1995 4 жыл бұрын
The overhang is usually just added on to the end of the rafters after the birdsmouth cut as a certain number of feet and inches. It is not really necessary to have it as part of the calculation because it does not affect the length or pitch.
@NorthCountryOutlaw
@NorthCountryOutlaw 12 күн бұрын
So I'm trying to build a 12x16 shed with a probably 6/12 pitch. I suck at math, but will 12ft 2x6's work for that, or do I need longer?
@UpcomingJedi
@UpcomingJedi Жыл бұрын
One thing i notice is you are not conidering a top plate at the apex to calculate the run which woul be the run minus half the thickness of the top plate which then gives the correct run. That way you have something to attach the rafters to.
@Toyotaamazon80series
@Toyotaamazon80series Жыл бұрын
Ridge thickness needs to be allowed for, 👍🔨🇮🇪
@jorgecruz1974
@jorgecruz1974 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video it's helpful for me
@jeremyfoster6942
@jeremyfoster6942 11 ай бұрын
On a calculator, .42 × 16 = 6.72 round that up to 7, so that's 14 inches and 7/ 16ths for every foot of run
@raul7317
@raul7317 5 жыл бұрын
slope= rise/run he say span= 28, run=14, slope=8/12, (rise/14run=8/12) we need to now the rise, rise= 14runX8/12= 9.33 rise= 9.33 rafter= √rise²+run² , rafter=√9.33²+14² = 16.82 answer
@joekind1
@joekind1 Жыл бұрын
Trick question: what is a one half pitch common rafter. Is it 6 x 12 or 12 x 12?
@timothydore2302
@timothydore2302 6 жыл бұрын
Be nice if the volume of the movie could be louder so I could turn down but couldn't make volume louder
@codyreagan5754
@codyreagan5754 4 жыл бұрын
Did this video play twice or is it just me
@ICar-co2kx
@ICar-co2kx 10 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing
@mesutaltunisik815
@mesutaltunisik815 3 жыл бұрын
How is it calculated at how many degrees?
@robertsmithjr.5839
@robertsmithjr.5839 6 жыл бұрын
What about the thickness of the ridge beam???? Also, he came up with 14.08 but then dropped the .08!!!!!!! Where did that go?!
@guitarslinger319
@guitarslinger319 6 жыл бұрын
.08 of a 1/16th.......if you could even see it you couldn't cut a rafter that accurate.....
@noblecarpentry
@noblecarpentry 4 жыл бұрын
@@guitarslinger319 1/16" x 14 would be 1 1/8". Please read charles scott comment!
@guitarslinger319
@guitarslinger319 4 жыл бұрын
@@noblecarpentry you could see that...
@throughoureyes5160
@throughoureyes5160 4 жыл бұрын
I looked for the overhang video. Can you explain the over hang? I have a 10'X12' deck, I would like the over hang off the roof to cover 2' over all sides.
@FirBurger98
@FirBurger98 2 жыл бұрын
Just add 2ft to the rafter length for your total length
@rickescover1862
@rickescover1862 2 жыл бұрын
@@FirBurger98 correct way 14.42 x 2 = your 2' over hang
@jonathanjacobo612
@jonathanjacobo612 4 жыл бұрын
Is a 10x10 shed good for 3/12?
@MrRainbird12
@MrRainbird12 8 жыл бұрын
Great explanation !! Thank You !
@keithowensii7111
@keithowensii7111 3 жыл бұрын
I have a run of 15 and it will be on a 7 what is my rafter length
@ramosf5a
@ramosf5a 5 жыл бұрын
Old school carpenter
@robertogonzalez8195
@robertogonzalez8195 4 жыл бұрын
It a very interting i like it hope have more viedios
@pumpkinpeanut1
@pumpkinpeanut1 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, when determining the length of the rafter do we have to add the thickness of the exterior siding? If I plan on adding a half inch thick siding, should I add that to my figures?
@baldyslapnut.
@baldyslapnut. 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, his example assumes this since he said outside to outside. It's always overall external dimensions including finishes. What he didn't point out is deducting half the ridge thickness, but his diagram didn't include a ridge board.
@guitarslinger319
@guitarslinger319 6 жыл бұрын
Good grief folks..I'm dumb as shit....and I got it....
@herbertherbomoore415
@herbertherbomoore415 4 жыл бұрын
Where did the 16 come from; along with your answer?
@brandondill4234
@brandondill4234 4 жыл бұрын
When your dealing with a decimal and you want to find it on a tape measure in 16ths. You multiply the decimal by 16. This will convert the decimal to a usable 16th number on the tape measure. Here he got 14. So that's 14 (16ths), or reduced is 7/8. Really easy once you do a few times.
@kopynd1
@kopynd1 7 жыл бұрын
I work in metric, but I would also work imperial
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 4 жыл бұрын
I just use Pythag therom.
@jonathanblankenship9732
@jonathanblankenship9732 7 жыл бұрын
where do you get the 1/16 inches and the 7/8 at the end?
@chrisscott510
@chrisscott510 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Blankenship . He is trying to figure out what .88 of an inch would be on his tape measure. So he converts it into how many 1/16" is the closest to .88 the answer would be 14/16". If you count 14/16" on your tape is is the same as 7/8" .
@emanuelhostetler654
@emanuelhostetler654 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Blankenship 14 1/16 is 7/8 of a inch
@user-hv6ov3pm3f
@user-hv6ov3pm3f 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks
@guitarslinger319
@guitarslinger319 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like alot of folks have a problem for every solution.....
@REVerbtalk
@REVerbtalk 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to 2019 where if they can't catch it in 9 minutes, they are lost. This is why I ordered a framing square reference bible, square as well as watch a crap ton of videos and been thinking about asking to work along side a roofing contractor on roofing jobs they have whether they teach me to cut them or simply shut the fuck up and just watch. People today have gotten lazy.
@RedNeckBiker109
@RedNeckBiker109 7 жыл бұрын
Does your final measurement account for the ridge beam? I think that's what its called..Thanks
@455supreme
@455supreme 7 жыл бұрын
Does not look like it, but this video did for me was explain the framing square. I like that, no one around to explain it. Thankfully I found a old one a few months ago in a thrift store for nothing. New framing squares do not have that info on them.
@twicebittenthasme5545
@twicebittenthasme5545 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of buildings these days are not built using a ridge beam. If it is used, half the thickness of the beam is the amount deducted from the final cut measurement of the rafter.
@albertoviurcos4774
@albertoviurcos4774 5 жыл бұрын
Real good explanation
@jurnagin
@jurnagin 6 жыл бұрын
Its not that complicated is it? Cant you just start with one? and figure it out by looking at it?
@guillermoisidoro4060
@guillermoisidoro4060 7 жыл бұрын
201.88 inches? From where? ; it must be....20. 18" or 20 1/8" isn't it?
@rapunzeleh546
@rapunzeleh546 6 жыл бұрын
just the hypotenuse of a right angle triangle... the length of the 'rafter' is the square root of the sum of the squares of the other two sides. so if it's 2 feet wide and 1 ft high, it's 2x2+ 1x1 = 5... the square of 5 is 2.236...
@freedomfighter835
@freedomfighter835 7 ай бұрын
Very well explain!
@maxenra
@maxenra 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@legendaryskulls337
@legendaryskulls337 7 жыл бұрын
Where in the hell did u get the 7/8 from
@josebaez7780
@josebaez7780 7 жыл бұрын
14/16=0.875 7/8=0.875
@rapunzeleh546
@rapunzeleh546 6 жыл бұрын
when he calculated the .88 into 16th of an inch he got 14/16... when you divide both 14 and 16 by 2, you get 7/8... same thing. like saying 3/4 is actually 6/8ths
@kopynd1
@kopynd1 7 жыл бұрын
also what if the run is 14' 4"
@felixcarrillo973
@felixcarrillo973 5 жыл бұрын
trevor francis in this case, since 4” is 1/3 of 12” you add 1/3 of 14.42, that’s 4.8 so 14.42 times 14 + 4.8
@johnpogany2444
@johnpogany2444 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t build the roof then lol
@zapatamxverm6793
@zapatamxverm6793 7 жыл бұрын
master carpinter thks
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 4 жыл бұрын
This was done to complicated much easier way
@riskitallcrypto99
@riskitallcrypto99 2 жыл бұрын
5968 not 5768
@gbeverly0002
@gbeverly0002 5 жыл бұрын
How would you figure out the diagonal without the framing square? Pythagorean theorem?
@felixcarrillo973
@felixcarrillo973 5 жыл бұрын
Jarlborg1984 yup
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 4 жыл бұрын
Basic geometry (or trigonometry, depending upon which way you calculate it)... You could calculate the angle taking the arctan of "rise divided by run" (i.e. opposite over adjacent). Then solve for the hypotenuse by way of: cos(θ) = adjacent / hypotenuse hypotenuse = adjacent / cos(θ) rafter = 14 / cos(arctan(rise/run)) rafter = 16.825906 ft Or you could do the following: 8/12 = total rise / total run -> total rise = 8 * total run / 12 -> total rise = 8 * 14 / 12 -> total rise = 9.33333 rafter = sqrt(total run * total run + total rise * total rise) -> rafter = sqrt(14 * 14 + 9.33333 * 9.33333) -> rafter = sqrt(196 + 87.11111) -> rafter = sqrt(283.11111) -> rafter = 16.825906 ft = 16' 13.2145/16" Which way you calculate it depends upon what sort of pocket calculator (or calculator app on your phone) you have...
@racsozerep8671
@racsozerep8671 6 жыл бұрын
yeah what happened to the other 7/8 ... his answer looks to be 14/16 but he said . 201 and 7/8 what he do with the other half ...smh confusing
@jroymich
@jroymich 6 жыл бұрын
count out 14- 1/16 inch marks on tape rule it is same as 7/8 inch
@DONNAB555
@DONNAB555 6 жыл бұрын
Racso Zerep 14/16 is the same as 7/8ths. Which is the way it would be communicated.
@captain757747
@captain757747 6 жыл бұрын
the easiest way is to get a little book that is available. You look up the rise and the span of the building and it will give you the angle of the ridge beam cut and length from ridge bean to the seat cut.
@baldyslapnut.
@baldyslapnut. 5 жыл бұрын
If you cannot simplify fractions or read and convert them on a tape measure, probably best to get a professional.
@mtrotts5578
@mtrotts5578 8 жыл бұрын
but how do you decide if it is a 6 over 12 or 8 over 12 that confuses me?
@charlesle9964
@charlesle9964 8 жыл бұрын
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@johnprice1105
@johnprice1105 8 жыл бұрын
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@lynardburt5992
@lynardburt5992 8 жыл бұрын
12 is the width and the 8 is the rise (UP) so for every 12 inches it rises 8 inches. The math is to figure the rafters length and to help where the birds-mouth would be and this would fit from the center beam to the wall headers (Top of wall) I hope this helps your question
@Scott.Farkus
@Scott.Farkus 7 жыл бұрын
He didn't allow for 1/2 the ridge board width. That's the first thing I noticed, and I get a wonky number when I do it his way. Even if I subtract the 3/4" it still comes out too long. I did the same rafter layouts on CAD and got a different number. CAD doesn't lie, it's accurate to 8 decimal places.
@baldyslapnut.
@baldyslapnut. 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scott.Farkus fine, but no carpenter needs to work to that degree of precision. Lots of timber framed buildings pre-date CAD. They look fine to me. Tapes and squares require no electricity.
@legendaryskulls337
@legendaryskulls337 7 жыл бұрын
He don't know
@riskitallcrypto99
@riskitallcrypto99 2 жыл бұрын
Omg 1508
@raul7317
@raul7317 5 жыл бұрын
it is worng
@1993xavier
@1993xavier 2 жыл бұрын
sooooooooooooooo confused
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like you are making it overly complicated by using a framing square. It's simple geometry and anyone with a high school education should be able to figure it out. Well, at least back in my day, high schools taught geometry...
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