Cale, Conrad, Maclise, Young, Zazeela - The Dream Syndicate 2 IV 64-4.

from: The Dream Syndicate (1964)

[@Montysreal]

I feel like this is my uncle playing here as well Terry Jennings

[@niccolonightingale7688]

Incredible... mesmerizing... yet playful....

[@stanmenshic8993]

Sonic magnificence, basically the more experimental members of the V.U.

[@wvn5]

V.U. ? help me out here where or what is this ?? three years later ..

[@wvn5]

@millennial_bug I should of known that 000 thanks

[@m.scottmcgahan9900]

Only two of them were members of the Velvet Underground, and one of those two barely was. John Cale definitely was in the VU. Maclise was a founding member but dropped out before they recorded anything. He thought they were sullying the art by making some money from a gig. He ended up filling in on a few live dates later on, but wasn't a regular contributor. Also, Lou was pretty experimental in his own right. He did those crazy guitar feedback drones on live performances of Sister Ray that no one else was really achieving at the time, and also made the very experimental Metal Machine Music. But I'm pretty sure this predates The Velvet Underground. Tony Conrad and Lamont Young were from a more avant garde art scene and weren't interested in doing rock or pop music.

[@ForARide]

​​@@m.scottmcgahan9900Besides being in the VU, Cale recorded several tracks where he experimented with numerous Avantgarde techniques and elements he developed under Avantgarde luminaries Iannis Xenakis, John Cage and LaMonte Young. These different elements he would bring into the Velvets sound, which he then taught Lou Reed, who would use them a decade later on MMM: kzbin.info/aero/PLNINWcxxj9hHMJx4_oFVWNLznPeMWKRVW&si=L2YGHJgpYVGpGRE-

[@kuujjuaq58]

Appreciate it. Thanks......

[@ivanhesseldacunhagubert8429]

ear candies

[@throatgorge2]

cool to be able to hear this stuff.

[@kuujjuaq58]

Man, you are spot on!

[@Fnoalle]

Cool and fun

[@kylegann4005]

Any word on where this recording came from and how it got here?

[@BarMorBBOOM]

Where can I find more information about this group?

[@sooperheep]

Who’s playing sax?

[@scioarete7987]

It could be Young; he would play soprano in this group

[@sooperheep]

@@scioarete7987 ah thank you, something about it was familiar and I think it reminded me of the viola on the black angels death song by the velvets

[@scioarete7987]

I'm pretty sure this is The Fire Is a Mirror, which the VU Movie has Young saying he would play an oscillating soprano sax on. Black Angel is a great tune

[@sooperheep]

@@scioarete7987 thank you, I had that song open in another tab and listening to it I agree that this is the same song though this version is in better quality. Do you mean the VU doc by Todd Haynes? I didn’t catch that, I loved the section about the Dream Syndicate and drones.

[@scioarete7987]

@@sooperheep correct. There should be a portion of the interview where he talks about oscilating soprano sax in these recordings.