"Caliban and the Witch" by Silvia Federici - a discussion by Heli St Luce and Jo Brew

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[@asparagus5428]

You're the greatest channel on the interwebs. Thank you!

[@beatrixkiddvideo2404]

A brilliant discussion between two brilliant women on one of the most brilliant (and relevant) books I’ve ever read. I’ve had this book since it came out, but I’ve never had anywhere I could talk about it, or hear other women’s opinions about Federici’s ideas. Thank you, Heli and Jo.

[@kathliapiodos6061]

Absolutely agree with you, I first read this book two months ago and it changed my whole perspective. Love it.

[@janelliot5643]

Thanks so much! Another informative thought-provoker answering the deep questions.

[@KaliMaaaaa]

A few books I'd enjoy to hear discussion on: Janice Raymond's "The Transsexual Empire: The Making Of The She-Male"; Carol J Adams "The Sexual Politics of Meat"; Phyllis Chesler "Women And Madness", Mary Daly "Wikidary"; Jane Caputi "The Age Of Sex Crime"

[@lskipski5023]

Great discussion again, thank you all! Thanks for the book information, all favourites and musts to read! I very much appreciated these discussions!

[@nyxthirteen4277]

Amazing discussion, thank you Heli and Jo!

[@kamustakabymmedianista4712]

Enlightening discussion.

[@tosstoness]

brilliant discussion many thanks

[@DJaneSyria]

Thank you!

[@jholmie6016]

Thank you for this amazing discussion! This book was (and is) pivotal for me!

[@helendancelot]

A very interesting talk

[@dragonfox2.058]

"The Living Goddesses" - Marija Gimbutas...this I want to read. It shocked the men. Shocked I tell you!

[@laurielyon9219]

It is men, the ruling classes were populated by men and solely men throughout history. Yes, of course there were some women who ruled but mainly women were the vessels to produce an heir for their ruling husbands and to be an interim ruler should he die and their heir was not old enough to take the position otherwise it was all men ruling the world and as it is comparable to today things haven't changed much. This is true in Egypt as well as the entire world. I say Egypt because people love to point out Cleopatra and Hatshepsut as examples of women ruling as though everything was equal and fair. These examples are only that. Women would be allowed to be placed in power like Queen Elizabeth when an acceptable male heir was unavailable to rule. Women have always been an interim ruler until a male heir could take her place. Men ruled economies worldwide as well. The merchant classes were run by men. Again, there were of course, some women who ran businesses but they were far and few between until as you point out the plagues ravaged mostly the male population and men were gone and the men who remained couldn't tolerate a large population of women controlling the commerce so they eventually had to devise something to take us out. Throughout history wherever there was an exceptionably intolerable circumstance men rape women in those circumstances making it that much more difficult for women than what the men are dealing with. Men have never come to the aid of women. Sure there are some examples like the sailers that came home early to rescue their female relations but never in an all encompassing turn out. Men like their dominance over us as was proven through Shere Hite's Report on Male Sexuality even if it hurts them in the long run men do not want to fundamentally change their dominance over us.

[@dragonfox2.058]

my comment was deleted. I'm PO'd. I didn't say anything bad

[@janelliot5643]

@@dragonfox2.058 My friend, it is an AGENDA of pushing the trains and other misogynistic practices - I keep trying to tell people it has nothing to do with the so-called policies OF YT. It's T R O O G L E

[@dragonfox2.058]

@@janelliot5643 ya and they sure don't' like feminism. It scares them to death. I expect this comment to be deleted as well

[@exposinghypocrites4827]

FACTS. I don't believe for a second that at any point in time ANY relatively advanced society was truly egalitarian either (because men will never freaking let go of their instinctual malevolent habit to DOMINATE us). And I doubt they're ever gonna start learning now either.

[@fortheloveoflike3996]

Great discussion

[@helendancelot]

What is the meaning of Caliban?

[@brigittelechner2284]

I think it is an unruly spirit in Shakespeare's Tempest.

[@helendancelot]

I think the statement that alot of hetro sexual sex is rape needs qualifying

[@dragonfox2.058]

Why?