California Construction Wages: Union Laborers vs Non Union Electrician

[@anthonyb5104]

$70 an hour? That is your pension and benefits lol

[@hmoobmikah]

They make them find their own Healthcare and retirement with that prevailing wage lol

[@elsancho-mx7om]

​@@hmoobmikah without having to pay union fees...

[@hmoobmikah]

@elsancho-mx7om if you make 10% more than non union, union dues is nothing.

[@elsancho-mx7om]

@@hmoobmikah almost 50% percent less according to the wages in the video. Where im at i make 45% more and my job covers my health insurance and i pay $75 a month for full coverage. Also i get to invest in what i want instead of leaving it up to the union. I have cousins in California in the LA are that work for unions and some that dont. The ones that dont have full coverage insurance but they are paying $120. I dont need someone to negotiate my wage because im a good worker. Unions are for lazy fks.

[@elsancho-mx7om]

@@hmoobmikah if your a lazy pos a union is perfect for you, but if you actually enjoy your job it is worthless. All my cousins that are union in LA just brag about how easy they have it, while my cousins that aren't union laugh at how little the union workers make while still having great benefits and the ability to invest all the money the unions steals.

[@hectormorales6175]

People need to understand that wages change from city to city. In Los Angeles Union laborers journeyman wages with benefit package equals $66/HR. $42/HR take home Union electrician journeyman wages with benefits package equals $91/HR…$59/HR take home.

[@thebootybandit7322]

What local is that in LA ?I’m a union laborer (local 261 San Francisco) I’m a journeyman make 36.25 an hour

[@hectormorales6175]

@@thebootybandit7322 Local 300

[@rogerrabbit616]

@@thebootybandit7322only $36 in San Fran? That’s really low but then again it’s laborers. Do you plan on going to a higher paying union or sticking with them?

[@thebootybandit7322]

@@rogerrabbit616 we just got the raise to 36.25 it was 35 an hour about 4 months ago but I’m with a demo company we do have some guys from local 3 operators union our company does sponsor guys if they would like to switch over I’m hoping I can do the same in a few years but for me since I’m already a journeyman with laborers if I were to switch I would have to take a big pay cut and start over with a different union I was talking to a union electrician at this job site im on right now and he said apprentice start is 15 an hour for Sacramento and I don’t know about that I am only 22 years old but I been feeling a little stuck 😕 I know in the long run it will be worth it but it’s a big pay cut I would have to take for the next 4-5 years until I can journey out

[@damianescarcega3599]

You forgot perdiem

[@Sled_God]

for those who don’t know/understand prevailing wage. I can be a non union electrician and I’m on a jobsite at an amazon factory. I’ll get whatever my regular wage is, lets say 40/hr. Once that job is complete and I get sent to a high school. Depending which county that school is in I’ll get THEIR prevailing wage for a non union electrician lets say $90/hr. Once that job is done I could go do a job at a train station in alameda county and the prevailing wage there could be $110 an hour. Prevailing wage is determine by two things. The county you’re working in and the type of jobsite. The jobsite has to be something funded by public monies, a school, hospital, college, water treatment plant, a govt building, etc. So as a non union tradesman youre not making prevailing wage all year long it depends on the jobs your company secures. Then the job varies in length, could be two months only. Anything outside of those public money places like a shopping plaza, a big warehouse of some company, you’ll earn your normal wage determined by your company. a union worker already has prevailing wage built in but it is distributed through their packages for them. Whereas the non union person needs to have the discipline to pull all that extra hourly money off of a prevailing wage job and actually invest it into their retirement. Thats why you see a lot of tradesmen living high off the hog because theyre spending that money now, they can say oh im getting such and such a year but that includes that extra pay you should be putting into retirement accounts. Some non union cos have smartened up and theyll stop 3-5% of that prevailing wage for retirement for you so that way you at least have something.

[@theloudprofessional]

Best explanation I’ve seen. Just started my non union apprenticeship love it so far.

[@mrcodoodle]

My pops grew up in Sweden dropped out of school age 15 and started working as an electrician, at age 18 he joined the Svensk military where he received his electrical ticket then went on to working as an electrician on cruislines, moved to Canada and began working at deep sea oil rigs all around the world and got promoted to Chief electrical engineer by his early 40’s. He basically skipped all education requirements and started making well over $150kUSD a year while by the age of 40 while living in Canada. A few months ago he had to cover overtime (staying a few extra days on the rig) and the overtime pay was $2300USD every 12 hour shift. That’s $3,151CAD a day ($262 an hour). You should def believe a $70 per hour check mate, because blue collars make a fucking killing. Best of all, their education gives them grants for gas money, grants at the end of each term and 80% of the time, the employers cover the tuition 😅

[@richycazares2176]

Hes the .05 percenters which he is lucky and bless but sadly this is irrelevant:/

[@Mailbagmoney]

My grandfather didn’t even finish high school and was bringing in well over $2,200 a week after taxes being a drywall finisher

[@tavspop]

Yeah but they have to live in California. Poor guys.

[@Drulopez]

Lots of jobs out here. It isn’t all bad . Yeah cost of living is expensive but there are endless amounts of opportunities here . I make $100,000 with just my day job not including side jobs/projects .

[@sorryfull1x344]

@@Drulopez HOW TO GET A NON UNION BRO. IM TRYNA GET 70 an HOUR F ALL BENEFIT HORSE SHII

[@Fentanyladdict]

love ling here in cali, bad females, nice weather, all the malls and luxury stores we have, restaurants, fk midwest. cali where its at

[@Socialolic]

If you make money like that cali is definitely the place to be.

[@dcgeeked8917]

you must be fun at parties

[@user-uc8rc9vn1q]

Thats not true i am an ibew journeyman we got annuity, pension,payed vacation,great Healthcare vision dental ...extra ..add to that double pay when you work Sundays and triples in holidays

[@WeeklyGhostCommentary]

He was talking about non Union electricians ibew is Union

[@Lee-wh3ht]

I’m non union and am making 15.00$

[@Hatim.13]

Join a union bro, I started at 12$/H non union here in PA, I am now making 22.58/H + benefits as a union apprentice! You re basically doing the same work for way less money!

[@eats4cheaps305]

​@@Hatim.13Where the hell did you start working where you agreed to $12/hr? Should start at least at $16 with no experience, $18 with experience and then by end of the 8,000 hrs you should be close to $25.

[@Hatim.13]

@@eats4cheaps305 I started here in PA at 12$, started getting a dollar raise every couple months, then joined the union started making 19.75, now I am 1 Year in the union I am making 22.58, when I become a Journeyman I ll be around 50$/H on the check + medical benefits + retirement, the apprenticeship is 5 years though. I have applied for every single Electrical contractor in my area, and only 1 gave me a chance, started me at 12$/H wasn't easy since I was 30 and MARRIED! so not a kid, but I stuck to it, learned alot and made it work.

[@christopherdelcastillo0077]

I made 16.80 in Los Angeles with no experience (non-union)

[@matt59fire]

You 100% are not a journeyman. You are definitely an apprentice. Idgaf if you are non union. You're a helper

[@DaOriginalMurdah]

Lol those electricians are only making that much because its a prevailing. When they finish that jobs they are going back to $30 max without benefits. Also those union laborers are apprentices because all journeymen make prevailing wage.... so really those union guys are still making way more than those non union workers.

[@erikthekid1252]

That’s not always the case I worked non union PW 2019-2022 and made over 110k every year now that I’m back in the union I’m not seeing anywhere near that lol but I guess it varies

[@octaviocali4697]

​@@erikthekid1252union is way batter all year around making money..this guys is comparing laborers vs electricians...union electricians make about 80-90 hr in california..im a union carpenter we make 62.30hr...and getting a bump every july till we get to 70...we get vacation check every feb 1 around 4000-5000...laborers are the lowest paid but great benefits

[@mitchellmiller3176]

That's just awful that they're not receiving those benefits, especially when they could be electrocuted and die at any minute. I know some people personally that have died from being electrocuted while working with wire's

[@MrStaybrown]

Laborors don't work with electricity. Electricians are not working on live runs.

[@User-y9t7u]

Sounds like they were unlicensed. Follow Lock in tag out procedure. Also people would still be covered under worker's comp

[@raidone7413]

Failed to mention laborers total package. 33/hr with union benefits comes to about 70/hr

[@crichter1984]

This was a little vague prevailing wage is set by unions to the DIR non union does not make that unless they work on a public works or federal job the rest of the time they get paid between 20 and 45 dollars an hour with little to no medical or retirement

[@DangItDylan]

Funny you said this. I made an updated video and I said exactly the same thing. You can check it out on my channel or link is also in the comments

[@dalton6108]

I doubt that, but I understand that. I work in Arizona. The unions are very weak here. Electricians would be lucky to break 30 dollars an hour non union. However in Oregon ( strong union state ). Electricians in the union make 45+ an hour on top are benefits that equal 40-50k a year. Meaning each electrician is making 120k a year all together. Either way it’s better to be in a union state than a non union state

[@outofbody6797]

Union is modern mafia. If you’ve got family in the big seats. You’re good. I’ll take $70/hr all day

[@MrStaybrown]

Just like truck driving. Owner operators make more money but they're responsible for everything, insurance both vehicle and medical, fees, retirement, fuel, maintenance, tires.

[@johnmichael642]

Show me ur $70/hr paycheck

[@americasunderdog]

Possible

[@Blazinghikari]

Ever heard of something called the oil patch???

[@TheAsianExplorer]

IBEW top rate JW pay scale in San Francisco cali is over $80hr with free healthcare, pension

[@RPFSantana]

I was getting 87 hr in NYC with a mason company prevailing wage 😎

[@benchoflemons398]

The cost after benefits for union is gonna be over 70

[@Blucollargirldad]

Local 105 sheet metal 55 hour plus all benefits 2 pensions health care for your whole house hold 401 HRA TOTAL OSVALDO 90 an hour

[@AnxOG663]

Rather do prevailing if you want the truth I’ll invest my money not let it sit till I’m 65

[@MrStaybrown]

You don't have to let it sit, it's yours. You can withdraw early, and get less plus pay taxes. But it's up to you.

[@generalwizdom2355]

Im a local 617 Electrician in San Mateo County… We get 78$ an hour with as good Retirement/Health&Welfare package as it gets.

[@DangItDylan]

That’s a good package. I know the electricians in IBEW 100 Fresno area get 44.50 an hour the fringe benefits package is around 28 an hour. Total package is 72.50 an hour.

[@generalwizdom2355]

@@DangItDylan We get 22$ an hour just into retirement. Its a pretty sweet gig. 👍

[@DangItDylan]

Can’t beat that. You’ll have a good retirement built up when the time comes

[@jamalcole1985]

#IBEW #Electricians #OAKLAND LU 595 $70/HR 4pensions, benefits, healthcare etc

[@erickzuniga3113]

The reason for biggest reason I would unionize is safety and legal backing (prevent things from potentially ruining a career)

[@TheRedx101]

For 70$ an hour u can get all that and then some 😂

[@DangItDylan]

I agree

[@saintalonzo-martinez1436]

Laborers local 220 💪🏽

[@stephanieparsons1056]

I'm in Alabama my son makes 60 and all benefits

[@xaviercortez5895]

Wrong…maybe in Montana or some shit our total package as Union sparkies is about $120 an hour…so if they are private electricians that’s what they should be getting

[@dcgeeked8917]

ok braden

[@jmoney1584]

Prevailing wage was set by labor unions. There’s equality in the unions. A lot of non union guys will hate but if we all work together we can all have a seat at the table.

[@jasonbalmaceda6579]

Just finished my Electrical schhool to trade class. Did Residential/Commercial/Industrial . Dont know where to apply. Union or non union. any tips from both sides?

[@DangItDylan]

If you’re are in California check out IBEW for the Union in your area. Where are you located? If you have experience they can get you into the Union as a journeymen depending on how much experience you have. If not you can get into the apprenticeship. @jasonbalmaceda6579

[@DangItDylan]

If you don’t want to work Union you will need to find a company that does mainly prevailing wage work. For example schools, courthouses,colleges, roads/ highways etc. you’ll need to know if the company is Union or non union.

[@juanaquino3076]

Laborers in chicago after 2 years school mak 49.44 hour

[@megamegaO]

It's Chicago bro. They're working in a warzone

[@jayv2873]

he not lyin as a union laborer my base pay is 35 and benefits is 30 so my total package is $65/hr

[@morriseperez1901]

Here the non-union prevailing wage rate is $125 in NYC. So I definitely believe $70/hr

[@thaerenglish84]

Hello there 👋🤠👋 Can Arabs be electrician in the USA? Should we get trained to be in the Union?? Please reply

[@hmoobmikah]

Non union yes. Union they'll need some proof that you passed High school and algebra 1. You can take some college classes to show that you passed algebra 1. The requirement to join union isn't hard. It's the aptitude test, and interview that's hard. Join union. Better pay, treated better.

[@reyyvasquez9116]

Do you know we’re is the office here in Florida

[@Factoryfarley25]

You should be able to search what ever trade your looking for and add union and city and that should get you close so search laborers union Miami Florida as an example.

[@lectorj]

70?.....not sure about that. Benefits add up but not by that much.

[@CyberkawaiiMaxtac]

roofers are union 50 an hour

[@El_Guero01]

So what is better union or no union?

[@elsancho-mx7om]

Many non union workers get their insurance covered by their job, as well as matched 401k. I got non-union and union cousins in the LA area. Fk the union if you aren't lazy af. Only thing my union cousins talk about is how they do nothing while watching the non-union workers do their job.

[@DangItDylan]

I agree, their are some lazy union companies. But I’ve worked non union and union. It mostly just depends on the company. I’ve seen really hard working people both union and not union. Whatever works better for you and lets you get paid what you’re worth I say choose that.

[@BonBon770]

Alright, so you take your own money buy your own insurance. Your own retirement account and now you're running yourself instead of somebody else running you. And you're making more In a long run..

[@banjothehammer6708]

“Free” healthcare i’d like to see how that works

[@DangItDylan]

So it’s definitely not “free”. I misspoke on that part. They pay into as part of their hourly package toward their fringe benefits. I made an updated video explaining this a little better. You can check it out here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eV7NZKWXiqaaadEsi=yYJ2lFEBbrF1L3rp

[@banjothehammer6708]

@@DangItDylan Fair enough. Our package requires us to work 130 hours a month to make the health premium every month. Not necessarily free health care but, I would rather see that money on the check and use VA.

[@DangItDylan]

@@banjothehammer6708 I agree. I can use that extra income for better things. I also have Tri-care

[@tridotran125]

But who wants to be a rat. Ibew local 100 stand up

[@joshuasanchez3998]

I don’t mind no bennies as long as they have constant work which I heard they DO NOT

[@DangItDylan]

I was always busy working in the laborers union and the operators union. It’s not the same for everyone though. I’ve heard of people being on the out of work list for a long time. I put out a new video explaining this a little better. You can check it out at this link : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eV7NZKWXiqaaadEsi=KM5eWDxsNf2kWJ8Y

[@paritoshbouri8673]

Can I be your apprentice?

[@raiderdrew988]

LIUNA 😎

[@rofadelossantos7920]

❤️❤️❤️

[@stevenme1258]

Union electrician here local 11 Los angelas total package $120 an hour. Get in what you put in.

[@james25980]

Hey im 19 yrs old going to LA trade tech for electrical construction:electrician any advice?

[@stevenme1258]

@@james25980call local 11 ask to speak to a business agent tell him about yourself, sell yourself keep trying and don’t give up.

[@hectormorales6175]

We are not at $120 an hour, bro. Journeyman are at $91 an hour GF’s are at $120

[@christopherdelcastillo0077]

@@james25980yes, purchase all your tools on the tool list ASAP, because once you reach 4th semester, you will need to show ALL your tools to participate in the lab portion. And as soon you get your certificate or degree, join local 11, they will waive the aptitude test for you, good luck

[@hmoobmikah]

​@hectormorales6175 he's talking about total package. Health and welfare, pension 401k combined, along with your pay

[@DangItDylan]

So I made an updated video that has way more information tied to it. Check it out here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eV7NZKWXiqaaadEsi=yYJ2lFEBbrF1L3rp

[@mrerndt]

1098 bro

[@SUFFERMANE]

i’ll take the 70 big dawg lol

[@MeekMillisbendingoverrn]

Shit dude give me $33/hour and I’ll make it work for the rest of my life….I’m working for $20/hour rn and somehow managing life

[@jordanisrael8979]

Union suck now. 2023

[@ryantimony6692]

Lmao did you watch the video? Disproves your theory.

[@hectormorales6175]

Unions suck? Bro, we stay ahead of inflation while non-union don’t wanna pay their employees. Lol

[@Hatim.13]

Nah the anti union propaganda sucks! Union is the best thing thar happened to me! IBEW_375

[@theloudprofessional]

I’ll invest my own money thank you. The union also is democrático and funds the idiots running the state.

[@DangItDylan]

That’s true. I’ve had a union rep call me in the past and tell me who I should vote for to “help support the union” but believe it or not, majority of all the people I’ve worked with in the union are all very republican.

[@0utube00]

🤷‍♂️

[@lordcrakkin965]

Union...when there is no Union work, you have to sit at home and go bankrupt. If you are caught taking "laborer" work, you can be back charged by the Union for every single penny you earned on that non-Union job that you took to feed your family ... and the courts will uphold the bill as you entered into a legally binding contract. Not Union...boss pisses you off, walk down the road and apply for a different job. No work, move to the next place and get hired. Show your loyalty to the company instead of to a union...might get you more company rewards versus getting your Union more rewards... Just a thought....

[@ice9dragon]

Do you speak from experience? Were you once in a union? I can understand if that's why you left a union.

[@WestHaddnin]

I just moved to union and I would go back to non union in a heartbeat for 100 dollars a hour. I can’t get back charged for doing that because I didn’t get my education and schooling through them. I did hear, that if you go through their apprenticeship you have to do another 5 years as a journeyman, for a total of 10 years.

[@lordcrakkin965]

@@ice9dragon Not me personally, but I have heard some horror stories from what some of my buddies have gone through.

[@lordcrakkin965]

@@WestHaddnin Yup. It is a legally binding contract with a legally recognized entity. Things can get very sticky if there is no work.

[@hmoobmikah]

Yeah once you make journeyman as a union apprentice, you will need to stick with them for 5 years to pay for your free school tuition. I guess those people didn't hear or read that fine print when joining the union.

[@N30HuM4n]

Bullshit

[@leadmetorainbows5983]

id rather get my money rather than let someone else manage ot for me

[@Thepape209]

What do you mean by this, I’m 17 and looking to get into electrician myself