California Dreams : Season 3 Episode 11 - Family Tree

[@Candice7]

Mark "you said we were related to Casanova" Sly: "hey, i'm a winkle" LMAO

[@AJ2617]

Jake wasn't ashamed of his past, he embraced it.

[@danaabel1049]

That's basically what "Genealogy's" all about.

[@danaabel1049]

Although, in my defense, from that cabbage & noodles he made, I think we should be glad they haven't invented "Smell-O-Vision" yet.

[@Janvsone]

Luv

[@MrBooBeeDoo]

I think the character of Tony was slightly modelled on Fresh Prince.

[@ドラゴンボール_おたく]

Valley Girl, The Bad Boy, The Americanized Foreign Exchanged Student, The token Black Guy, Spoiled Rich Girl, Nice Guy, and The Hustler all in one show

[@NarnianHogwart]

Tiffany couldn't be further from a valley girl. You are just saying that because she is blonde. But she is kind, selfless, compassionate person with a passion for surfing and music. She is not remotely motivated by material gain. The rest of your character descriptions fit pretty well though.

[@MrAnaAbel]

Tiffany is not a valley girl. She’s a surfer girl from the coast.

[@nlee4566]

The characters had lot of dept. Tony was far from token as he actually persude everything and spoke up for himself. They never talked down to him but jokes with him. Most token black dudes are the butt of jokes and easily need other characters to defend them. Same for Jake, Fonzie rip off but had a lot of heart. Most bad boys in these shows got clout and abuse it.

[@Not_Always]

@@nlee4566 You don't know what a token black person is if you don't realize Tony was the token black person.

[@angelroberts5641]

@@Not_Always he was not and i am a black female telling you this was not true

[@michellemaher2010]

Isn't the blonde teacher the band manager for Zak Attack?

[@oliprj8676]

Ye. She was fit

[@nsls8223]

yea and the camp instructor for season 5 of the new class. she's tony soltis wife.

[@RetroHabit82]

Didn't the teacher manage Zack Attack?

[@jimmiejones2712]

RetroHabit82 You are so right lol

[@maryammure1723]

RetroHabit82 wasn't she also the woman that married Jesse's dad or am I wrong? I know she made out with Zack and managed the Zack attack and took him away from the gang.

[@kristagerry8505]

No 2 separate actresses for the manager and Jessie's step mother ​@maryammure1723

[@Mr205BoSs]

I would love a DVD

[@msarrington27]

One of my favorite episodes.

[@vincentphillips2577]

Tony had the cool slick textured fade the rest of the series. ...trying to look mixed...😂

[@UrbanFarmboy]

Jake's great grandparents were WW2 era refugees and he didn't mind.

[@TigerPreza]

Lorena is related to Mario Lopez..? But in this era.. isn't A.C. Slater still around??!! So is she related to Slater? What's the world coming too...

[@tnawcwvictoria]

Saved by the Bell The College Years ended during the 93/94 Season, but during the 94/95 when this season came out, Slater made an appearance on The New Class along with Lisa and Zack and that was when Screech returned to Bayside

[@marioenrique8494]

No she is not

[@GLBizzie]

Oh noooo.. I don’t want any connections or crossovers between them lol

[@369klipper]

What no song in this episode?

[@NarnianHogwart]

Sadly, from S3 onwards- episodes where they don't sing/practice or even mention being in a band are becoming more and more common. It just turns into a Svaed by the Bell clone where they have zany antics at high school.

[@GLBizzie]

@@NarnianHogwartawww what a shame. So just the typical Highschool sitcom then lol

[@joelbaldwin4051]

I'm disappointed in Mark this episode. He sunk as low as Sly, if not lower.

[@davemorrison312]

Joel Baldwin I’m disappointed in Mark in every episode

[@GLBizzie]

I mean they are related. What do u expect? Runs in the family lol

[@rorobaby100]

I dont get why he was so ashamed that his ancestors were slaves... kind of an ignorant story line.

[@Alpen83]

+rorobaby100 Probably he thought that other people would judge him and his family. Maybe thinking they were week (even though to survive as a slave a person would have to have been incredibly strong). That's the only thing I can think of.

[@marioenrique8494]

I miss Matt and Jennifer but you have to move on

[@DanaAbel30]

Well, Lauren, you gotta look @ it this way. Our pasts are part of what makes us who we are, & if we don't learn from the past, then how can we know anything about the future??

[@mariohenriquez1913]

You should be proud of where you come from Tiffany Smith Jones

[@DanaAbel30]

Sarah, genealogy's a very important thing. It helps solves the mysteries about something that'll be very important to you -- namely "YOU".

[@jecka1982]

LOL 'im also related to mario lopez'. AC Slater!

[@AMDbAmber-Mad-Database]

Sam is so nuts!

[@Not_Always]

So every episode involving Tony has been about (a) random gang/gun violence (b) how he came from 'da hood' and (c) slavery. Yes, the writers certainly made him a trailblazing character that didn't play into stereotypes at all.

[@angelroberts5641]

i mean you can't be upset at the epidsodes when this was back on tv when i was a little girl and these things was happing back then

[@marioenrique8494]

You should be proud of you are

[@maraca112]

He’s just now learning about slavery 😭

[@chelseacullins6453]

did anyone else see Jamie Kennedy @ 9:59 ?

[@maryammure1723]

Chelsea Cullins he's also in the episode when Sam makes her great great grandmother's secret healing potion he's in the scene when he gets the hiccups

[@GLBizzie]

I wonder why the creator never did an crossover between his shows.

[@mistercool3859]

The character Gem Diamond sold class rings to Bayside students in an episode of "Saved by the Bell." He also shows up as a used car salesman who Sly works for in an episode of "California Dreams."

[@mariohenriquez1913]

That's right mark

[@marioenrique8494]

Samantha woo stung

[@marioenrique8494]

You can't talk to girls like that Winkle

[@chickfight1602]

What did Tony expect ??

[@marioenrique8494]

mark Winkle Craig

[@marioenrique8494]

sly Winkle Adams

[@marioenrique8494]

Tiffany Smith Jones

[@marioenrique8494]

Jake Sommers Matthews

[@Not_Always]

The surname Winkle has absolutely no Italian origin whatsoever.

[@mistercool3859]

Someone in the family might have changed it to something less ethnic-sounding.

[@mariohenriquez1913]

Do you like sly or mark Winkle

[@GLBizzie]

Sly all the way

[@Sheria29]

Sly

[@Not_Always]

Mark had no reason to exist in this show except to be a poor attempt to replace Matt. If he were never brought on the show wouldn't have been impacted in the slightest.

[@marioenrique8494]

But they can change that

[@NoxHardigan]

Why were people in these Peter Engel shows so easily impressed? That was always one of the most annoying factors of these shows.

[@jadedheartsz]

get lost troll

[@NoxHardigan]

@@jadedheartsz I grew up with these shows. Cheers for reacting to a comment I made a decade ago though my fellow 90s Saturday morning sitcom head.

[@jadedheartsz]

@@NoxHardigan interesting, still don't see how it's annoying though.

[@GLBizzie]

@@jadedheartszit was quite annoying. Be real. Especially when the hot ones appeared and u hear them all cheering like the New York jets won the first time a Super Bowl since 1968/69 lol

[@jadedheartsz]

@@GLBizzie nah

[@marioenrique8494]

Lorena Costa Ortiz

[@davemorrison312]

@7:58...Mark Winkle is such a stalker

[@marioenrique8494]

Tony Wicks Daniel's

[@mickiemcmeow2605]

I don't know why but Jake looked tired to me in this episode. Like he wasn't into his character for this one.

[@mistercool3859]

I prefer him in episodes like these where he's not being the tough guy but just being a friend.

[@GLBizzie]

He seems like that for a couple of episodes by now tbh

[@ArmondoeCruze88]

They did every black episode with Tony

[@Jennifer-5]

ArmondoeCruze88 of course they did Tony was the only black guy who else would they use

[@GLBizzie]

He’s the black token but he didn’t mind. He got the paycheck

[@Miss.RubyGame]

miss mark

[@ZipGB8]

Another recycled Saved by the Bell plot. Zack giving a presentation on his Native American heritage.

[@jerramaurice7836]

Oh yeah and when Lisa talked about her heritage and Jessie felt guilty about it

[@GLBizzie]

I mean what do u expect? It’s the same producer.. even if it wasn’t the same dude creating it what plots can u do with a Highschool setting. At one point this plot had to come

[@Not_Always]

@@GLBizzie This wasn't a show about kids in high school. It was supposed to be about kids who played in a band, who happened to be in high school.

[@GLBizzie]

@@Not_Always but still.. what else could they have done with low budget ?

[@Not_Always]

@@GLBizzie Plenty, but this show was stupid because they just made it Saved By The Bell if they occasionally played music.

[@Samirose21]

Jamie Kennedy at 13 09....

[@jerramaurice7836]

Omg that was him

[@davemorrison312]

Years before AncestryDNA and 23andMe

[@Not_Always]

and the problem still exists that there aren't enough black people that participate so it is very inaccurate when estimating 'heritage' for black people

[@marioenrique8494]

I hope you not lying chica

[@mariohenriquez1913]

You liars sly and Tony

[@jerramaurice7836]

Sometimes I think Sly is more of big mouth than a liar

[@NarnianHogwart]

I understand what this episode tried to do... but it's so cringe by todays standards and not to mention racially and culturally insensitive. I hate how Tony see's slavery as though it was a "career choice" that his ancestors chose- he had no reason what so ever to feel shame- if anything, I wouldn't have wanted to see the white characters feeling shame and compassion for Tony. Lorrena saying "Jake's family also has humble beginnings" as some kind of comfort- ffs that is not the same at all. Then to actually show Tony's ancestor picking cotton... Also Sam with that giant Chinese gong.... so cringe. Also.. yet another episode with no music, songs or mention of band practicing....

[@GLBizzie]

That’s what this was all about. He felt ashamed coz LIFE had been insensitive and that’s why he didn’t wanted to talk about it at first

[@Not_Always]

@@GLBizzie Except, any child in America with a brain knows that unless your classmate was a first or second generation African Immigrant, they were most likely here because of the American slave trade. A black kid saying he had enslaved ancestors would be a surprise to absolutely no one.

[@sarahloumc1978]

I've never liked this episode, I always skip past it, I've never like watching about family history in tv shows.

[@jadedheartsz]

it's a fine episode, it's better than that stupid episode where Tony fantasizes about being in the old west, good god was that a waste of time.

[@murlinrichard5481]

@@jadedheartsz agreed, i only like the last part of that episode, when he wakes up and walks outta the movies lol

[@jadedheartsz]

@@murlinrichard5481 yeah

[@MightMouse2174]

gawd Lorena is awful

[@jadedheartsz]

nah she's cool