Calling 911 After Self-Defense

[@DavidMcCoyII]

I provided my description along with the information that I was carrying a rifle to stop a vehicle burglary. I found out that it was a hoax before police arrived, but they came rushing in looking for the suspect dressed as me carrying a rifle! Very unhappy with dispatch, I could have been shot. Thankfully I got rid of the rifle as soon as I confirmed there was no threat.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Wow! This is exactly why we don’t recommend providing your description!

[@SteelPhoenix78]

@@ArmedAttorneys What about a scenario in which an intruder surrendered upon being confronted, and I was detaining them at gunpoint until the police arrived (possibly with a loved one making the 911 call while I had my attention on the intruder). Would I also not want to give my description & instead only describe the intruder who surrendered & I was detaining?

[@ArmedAttorneys]

@@SteelPhoenix78 Very interesting possibilities. Very situational. Describing the perpetrator may be the best course of action.

[@keitharterburn8593]

Most dispatchers are idiots! Poorly trained and many have a power trip. They are too busy following their script instead of listening. My bonafides; I was both (Officer and 911 dispatcher).

[@centralcoastaccountability4169]

@@keitharterburn8593 lol so you’re saying you’re an idiot

[@charleskhenry]

I run a security company. I make my guards carry a checklist in their wallets. I understand a self defense case will be stressful, but the best mitigation of the risk, is to have a well-thought out plan and sticking to it. Also doesn't hurt to have important phone numbers on the back of the checklist (like your attorney's POC). Just my 2 cents.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Great point Charles! A person's thought process can be very disrupted, having a simple checklist is not a bad idea.

[@jessesalazar2493]

Can you share a simplified version of that list?

[@operationNOBO]

The real question is, does your company represent the employee in a self defense case. Most security companies wont.

[@perrylc8812]

Great idea.

[@Heather-xm9ul]

That's a good idea. For regular citizens, we could put checklists in our wallets, or on the inside of our holsters.

[@tomharkness]

As a former Professional Firefighter from the City of Austin, I have seen and took training at the 911 center there. When the dispatcher answers the phone, they ask a simple question or two. Then, while it might sound like they are delaying, they actually reach over and press 1, 2, or 3 buttons telling Police, Fire, EMS to pick up on the line. While you think you are talking to one dispatcher, you may well be talking to 4 dispatchers and a supervisor. For example, if you say that there is a fire in the house, the dispatcher might be asking questions about "can you get out?" "is there someone else in the house?" "Don't stop for pets or purses".... While at the same moment, the police dispatcher (Silently listening) is dispatching the closest LEO for traffic control. The EMS Dispatcher is activating a Medic Unit (maybe two) and supervisor...and the Fire dispatcher has just alerted 50 fire stations (standing by), 3 fire engines, 1 ladder truck, 1 rescue truck, and 1 Battalion Chief (20 firefighters total) - if they see fire, 3 more fire engines, another ladder truck, and the shift commander. Alarms are going off all over town. So, telling that one dispatcher to "Hurry" is not necessary. In the case of a shooting (Self defense), the dispatcher will alert all three. -->All LEO's available in the area and a supervisor, EMS is sending a Medic Unit and putting another on standby with the medical director. Fire is sending the closes Apparatus that has EMT/First Responders. All while the one dispatcher is talking to you (But they are ALL LISTENING).

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Great insight!

[@4_the_health_of_it]

Smart 911 already provides a description

[@13BGunBunny]

As a USCCA member, the first thing that I would do after a self defense shooting is dial 911. I would tell the dispatcher "I am [your name here] and I am at [location]. I am a victim in a self defense shooting and I had to defend myself because I feared for my life. Please send the police and paramedics right away. I will give any other pertinent information to the first responding officer that arrives." Make sure that they are on the way then hang up. It's very important that you tell him/her that you are the victim because the assailant may have also called 911 and told them that you was the aggressor. Clear your firearm, set it on the ground/floor at your feet and never leave it. The next thing to do, if you are a member, is immediately call the USCCA Critical Response hotline and tell whomever answers the phone that you have been involved in a self defense shooting and answer any questions that they may have. The USCCA is your friend and will provide legal counsel in said shooting, especially if you are charged with a crime (more info on that below). NEVER give the police a statement without the the presence of legal counsel. Anything that you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. The Fifth Amendment is your friend. Use it. Tell him/her "I will cooperate 100% but I will need to speak with my attorney first before giving a statement." Give them a description of the assailant and where s/he ran away to if necessary Show the police your CCL and ID if requested and comply with any instructions that they may have. You may also be requested to hand them your firearm as evidence. The best thing that you could do is to inform the police that you will exercise your right to remain silent and you will give a statement after you have talked to your legal counsel. Remember, if the attacker breaks off the attack and runs away, DO NOT CONTINUE TO SHOOT. At that point you are no longer under attack and the threat of death or bodily harm is no longer present. If you continue to shoot and hit the attacker and kill him/her, there is a very good chance that you will be charged with a murder charge of some sort. Concealed carrying is a VERY big responsibility and you must always train, train, train and then train again. You may feel like there's nothing left to know/learn but there always is something that was overlooked by an instructor that another one will educate you on. Always be alert, be safe, thank you for reading all of this and God bless.

[@JJLTACTICALSOUTIONS]

You may want to read the small print with USCCA. If you find yourself in court and you lose USCCA will come after you for all monies spent on your case. Also if you plead down to a lesser they will also come after you for all all monies spent.

[@13BGunBunny]

@@JJLTACTICALSOUTIONS Do you actually think that I don't know that? SMH

[@JJLTACTICALSOUTIONS]

@@13BGunBunny Well that tells me all I need to know about you.

[@13BGunBunny]

@@JJLTACTICALSOUTIONS What exactly would that be?

[@JJLTACTICALSOUTIONS]

@@13BGunBunny Anyone who purchases insurance knowing that same company will not do what your paid them to do but still stays with that company shows me you may want to seek professional help. You are the type of person who purchases a parachute, jumps out of an airplane and has no backup parachute. SMH

[@let_freedom_ping]

I'm a dispatcher, location should be 1. The cops can figure out who you are when they get there if need be. If we can only get one bit of information, make it the location. Your right to remain silent is your biggest strength. Don't talk yourself into jail. It's the cops job to get you to incriminate yourself.

[@inglouriousmasterd447]

@Areu Kiddingme I think that what the guy probably means is that if the call is somehow abruptly cut off and there’s no way of reestablishing contact then hopefully you at least conveyed the location info first and foremost so the responders actually know where to go.

[@ScottValler]

It is amazing how calling for help is turned into a punishment. They really no how to dis-incentivize calling 911.

[@gmjackson1456]

Emily's strategy is correct because we have the right to remain silent and the police can't presume guilt based on silence.

[@blackhillsrider2626]

As USCCA, NRA instructor I applaud your video. Your advice is absolutely correct. Very well done! Keep your information to 911 short concise truthful and then hang up. Then call your attorneys. Also remember do not become chatty Cathy when police show up. Keep statement short then say out loud i am invoking my right to remain silent i want my attorney then shut up! Great video keep them coming.

[@fog8969]

Edit: The video referred to by T.J. Kong below, kzbin.info/www/bejne/ml6aoGyujtVqm6c, is the video I was thinking of when making this comment here ... Some attorneys say don't invoke the 5th, right to remain silent, due to something Scalia wrote saying that that could somehow be used against you. They say to instead just invoke the 6th, right to have an attorney present during questioning, and then they have to stop asking you questions. Would make for a good Armed Attorney video here, if they haven't already done one. (I'm new here.)

[@ThrashVEVO]

What if you don’t have a lawyer? ……can I trust a public defender?

[@flexinclouds]

​@@ThrashVEVO in that case, just say "lawyer". Theyll probably take you downtown before you get a public defender to speak with. Might even get booked before you can talk to a public defender & then give them a statement. Either way theyre better than talking to the cops or defending yourself in that situation

[@anonymouslee2083]

If it was an armed robbery, I wouldn't say "someone tried to rob me," I would say "someone threatened me with (the weapon the robber had,) to emphasize that someone was threatening my life with a deadly weapon.

[@charlie6629]

I just attended my requalification for my CCW in Cali. My instructor told say nothing other than someone is down and needs medical, your name, what you are wearing, the location, and don't leave the scene. The when they arrive you state I need to talk to my legal council first then I am willing to help an any way I can. I'm a shaken up right now.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

There is no perfect answer for any scenario but that is better than 90% of what folks do. Very cool Charlie!

[@GM8101PHX]

@@ArmedAttorneys And request to be taken to the hospital, the elderly man in California had a heart attack after defending himself legally and he was not arrested or charged to my knowledge. This also allows for your brain and body to clam down. However do not under any circumstance start telling the story to the medical staff about what you did. The only person you should talk to is your attorney!!!!

[@jdwar11]

Great advice

[@vaughnslavin9784]

Thank you! I pray I never have to use your advice.

[@markpaulin884]

This is great advice. Thank you.

[@thomasgrable1746]

I'd previously thought that providing one's description could prevent police from confusing the law-abiding citizen for the criminal, but your reasoning is sound. Thanks for that bit of insight.

[@TheJimJonesKC5DOVChannel]

Like the Armed Attorneys said, "...you don't know if you're hurt or not..." - I'd advise to not give a statement until after you get at least one night of sleep to allow time for your brain to fully process and organize what you saw in a fairly chronological order.

[@azcountry6064]

Excellent Points!

[@wayneaustin5533]

I guess I should have my lawyer in my contacts

[@derflitermouse8976]

Great advice! Several points I hadn't even considered.

[@whatsup24_7]

I have CCW SAFE to do all my talking. I researched 5 or 6 different carry insurances and they appeared to have the best coverage.

[@pslay9324]

Oh you know I "smashed that like button" I need you two on speed dial!!

[@justmedanny2105]

You give great info and much of it is applicable nationwide.... my only add would be that people need to KNOW that the police are NOT your friends, they are NOT there to help you... they are there to arrest somebody. Do NOT talk to the police without your attorney present.... and tell the people with you to SHUT UP.... what THEY say can be used against you also.

[@ETC_Rohaly_USCG]

Love you Two!

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thanks Matt! We live to serve!

[@jimmie69r]

I had my phone locked on a 911 call a few months back. My dad was having a heart attack, I gave them all the information and then I needed to call my mom to find out where my dad's nitro pills were. I was pissed and I was screaming at them to let me make a call...they got an earful..and I totally understand why they do it but I was in dire straits

[@ArmedAttorneys]

That is outrageous! We hope everyone is ok.

[@robertsmentkowski312]

What city & state?

[@Maybe-So]

I've had that happen once with a mere 'fender bender' car accident. I rebooted the phone and made my call. Took longer, but I was able to break their lock. I expect this is something that they have resolved in 'newer' phones. It was around 2008 - Charlotte, NC.

[@RJN31428]

I wonder if it can disable the mute button to shop them for listening.

[@flexinclouds]

​@@RJN31428 Probably safe to assume they can. If they can listen-in before they even pick up, then mute probably wont work either. If they lock the phone, id just shut it off, or atleast put it on airplane mode (which will cut cell service completely)

[@TheJimJonesKC5DOVChannel]

I'm a LA/TX Private Investigator - your KZbin page should be required watching when carrying open or concealed in Texas. I've done a lot of work in the Houston and Beaumont areas including insurance fraud, process service, and domestic terrorism surveillance - I keep my EDC weapon in a steering column holster when inside the vehicle and have been asked several times about it by officers without ever having any problems because I was honest and respectful (and fully credentialed, ie: driver's license, insurance card, window tint waiver, registration, weapon ownership receipts, and carry license, etc.).

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thank you Jim!

[@paraAA82]

QUOTE: "I keep my EDC weapon in a steering column holster when inside the vehicle." Your car is NOT a gun safe. Your car is NOT a holster. Moreover, if God forbid you happen to be in an accident what would happen to your firearm if you have to exit your car? Are you going to leave the handgun in the car out of your immediate control, or are you going to exit your car with a gun in your hand? Probably not a good idea either choice. What if you are seriously injured or unconscious? Have you thought that in a violent collision your gun can detached from the steering wheel and get lost? Those steering wheels "holsters" are garbage and are also unsafe. No offense or disrespect intended.

[@TheJimJonesKC5DOVChannel]

@@paraAA82 "...when inside the vehicle." - Sorry for the confusion - when I exit the vehicle I'm either wearing the weapon or it's locked in the gun safe under the front seat - it's never left unsecured or unlocked.

[@yurgon]

@@TheJimJonesKC5DOVChannel I also carry a safe inside my truck for times when I'm unable to carry onto a forbidden property. There are lots of arguments for not using or using vehicle holsters and most of them revolve around the fact that the firearm becomes a permanent part of the vehicle. The only con I can think of if you never leave the gun in the vehicle is control over the it should an attacker jump in the car. They'll know where it is because it's in plain sight whereas a concealed weapon on your person would be a suprise.

[@jason200912]

You must have a lot of confidence in that holster. Seeing how the gun muzzle is always being pointed at either the car in front of you or your own legs.

[@kingkash928]

Good job you guys, very helpful hood information. 👍

[@Wolfpack1970]

I like all your suggestions for information but as far as number 4, I was instructed by an attorney and the police officer who instructed my second cpl class to simply say “there has been a shooting”. There reasoning was you don’t want to sound like your arguing your case or trying to justify the actions taken over the phone.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

There is not a perfect answer; but there is best solution for a particular situation, so it will depend.

[@jimhanty8149]

Now yer talking… I’ve done this …a lot .. from people trying to rob or kill me ,to people just dropping dead in the store , to unhappy (large male ) customers taking off all their cloths and sit in the floor screaming and crying… and more…., if you stay on the phone long enough you will say something stupid… Even if you don’t pull a gun or use force , you can sink yourself ,by talking alot.

[@bmiller22765]

Every video I watch of y’all, it makes me think of what to do. I prey I never have to use deadly force, but if I do, I’ve gotten a lot of great advice here. Thank you for all the information you both give. And I hope both of y’all had a Merry Christmas! 🎄

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Love that!

[@Milesco]

Pray all you want, but don't prey, or you'll be in even more trouble! 😂

[@jreese46]

It's been a little while, but just a point about the order of the call. The most important piece of information, and the 1st thing the dispatcher should be asking for, is "where is your emergency?" If they don't know where, they can't get anybody heading that way while other information is collected, or if the call is prematurely disconnected, etc. Where to send help, what happened (they will determine what to send based on what type of incident you report) and then contact information, follow up information (dangers/aggressors present, any/how many injured, etc.).

[@believe722]

GREAT, GREAT INFO!!

[@zenneutrino]

This is very informative! Thank you!

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Glad you enjoyed it Bill!

[@donavandean1078]

You two are the best! Thank you for all your wisdom!

[@liquidmidnight1]

I truly appreciate you both. Not just for the service to the 2nd Amendment community that you are providing, but that you can have different views or interpretation, yet still work as a team for the same goal. Like our fantasy wet dream of how our lawmakers should operate. Regards

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thank you! That complement means a lot to us! We really hate to see folks adopt the “one size fits all solution” approach. It’s like seeing a medical professional, you can talk in generalities, for example, diet and exercise; but you always want an individualized diagnosis. Unfortunately, there is no silver bullet. Again, thank you for being part of the community!

[@mpmfr]

I agree. Very helpful, thank you Armed Attorneys.

[@laughingdog6010]

You attorneys are the dynamic duo

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thanks Dog!

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

Recording of 911 begins IMMEDIATLY in Los Angeles, before the police operator even picks up. That’s for sure.

[@billsilva1740]

Other KZbin LEO's also say DO NOT GIVE YOUR DESCRIPTION out. They may confuse it with the suspect description.

[@dukenukem9770]

Great advice! I would ABSOLUTELY make sure to characterize my actions as a response to a deadly threat on the call! Keep the great content coming!

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thank you as always Duke!

[@danielmiller2977]

You guys are a real necessity. Thank you!

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thanks Daniel!

[@ronaldpotter2519]

For real!

[@MOOBBreezy]

What my CCW instructor told me for the 4th step was just "there has been a shooting"

[@lepowell9095]

Excellent information thanks

[@brandongaddis2206]

Love this. Thank you for keeping us informed and for fighting for our 2A rights.

[@Paul-dc6sp]

Can you do a video on if pictures or video should be taken of the scene before LE arrive on scene. I am guessing that would help your defense attorney. It also gives a time stamp when trying to recall order of events. Great videos keep them up.

[@paulwells3084]

This was a great video with great advice, I even took notes. Having something like this and also as another comment said having a checklist is critical. Having been involved in a shooting the adrenalin is going to be pumping and most people can barely think straight let alone have meaningful conversation after this type of encounter. Having a list to fall back to like this helps you to take some control back especially the part about hanging up after you've said what needs to be said to 911. I know those calls are recorded but I wouldn't have thought to end that call. Good stuff!

[@karl-heinzklimach1284]

Thanks guys we have US Law Shield. We have permits and I carry every that I legally can. The world has become a vary dangerous place. Education is the key. Situational awareness in your first and best defense, it helps avoid a situation before it begins. Don’t drink and drive , don’t carry if you even think about a drink. It‘s a really bad idea.

[@jimhanty8149]

Great show, .A very important part of self defence awarness for all gun owners. ...you both were perfect in addressing a most difficult and "wiggly" topic.......

[@KingMusa99]

Great info! I agree with Emily on how to deal with giving statement

[@brianyates1703]

Great info. Adding a description along with your name is what I have seen in the classes I have attended. That way thr first responders know who to look for. This is something that needs to be continually driven home as if it happens a person lots gets forgot or missed in the heat of the moment. Having it on a card in your wallet is not a bad idea. You both do a great job in breaking info down so an average person can understand. I especially like that you both do always agree as not all situations are the same. It is never easy.

[@alewis8765]

Great info! Love the content and format. Keep up the good work.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thanks A!

[@darylhopkins9796]

The best podcast that I watched in a while. Thanks for sharing your insights on this topic.

[@rwes2940]

I had an instructor who told us to call 911, say shots have been fired, subject has been hit, ask for police and an ambulance to location then hang up. Do not answer any questions from dispatch. Just make sure they have location and police and ambulance requested.

[@nateschlegel8448]

Thank you both so much for such a great video series!

[@cheeng1]

excellent information

[@mixter7x7]

the most wise thing i've heard for your own well being is to only describe the actions of the attacker / intruder -- call for both ems and police and to let the police begin their investigation without your description of the events.

[@Calaveras32Spcl]

Good information to have. Thank you. Hope that I never need it.

[@xiongher3080]

Thank you for the valuable information 👍

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Glad it was helpful Xiong!

[@DavidMcCoyII]

My plan has always been, " , shots fired, suspect [down, running, still shooting], send me some backup", hang up. They can re listen to the recording if they missed anything. Thoughts?

[@ArmedAttorneys]

It’s better than 99% of what people do. That follows very close with what Emily recommends.

[@DavidMcCoyII]

@@ArmedAttorneys the idea being that sounds an awful lot like an "officer needs help" call. But I didn't actually say I was police so they can't get me on that.

[@keyboardwarrior1230]

You guys are the 💣 subscribed. More emphasis on oaths being broken and shall not would be great. Keep up the good work.

[@brianb900]

Texas law shield tells us to request 2 ambulances to the scene, one for the person who’s been shot and one for the person who shot in defense. Being attacked is a traumatizing experience. They argue that requesting the second ambulance for that helps your case.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

That may be the right answer!

[@GM8101PHX]

The elderly man in California that defended his store is a good example, he had a heart attack after rightfully shooting the criminal pointing a long gun at him!!

[@guyblew1733]

Very good information.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thanks Guy!

[@ETC_Rohaly_USCG]

All 5 steps are also similar to an an at sea Mayday call… Name Location Souls on board Severity of situation Get off the Mic as soon as possible to allow for others nearby to use that frequency… (more often than not, local boats can respond faster than the CG)

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Fun (tragic) fact!

[@ETC_Rohaly_USCG]

@@ArmedAttorneys it’s only tragic when Search and Rescue changes to Recovery… 😔

[@davidrichmond1810]

You guys are awesome. Thank you very very much.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Anytime David!

[@RadioRich100]

See the bullets on her?

[@Scott-lz3pp]

You guys are GOOD! Thank you so much for your information and advice.

[@richardbriscoe8563]

If any jurisdictions are locking phones, preventing someone from calling the police, step one for all instances should be to call your attorney and then 911. I agree with Richard’s advice to raise the defense of self defense on the 911 call. At least in Texas, if the police introduce the recording as a “confession” they must introduce the entire “confession”. As a statement against interest, the defense may have to introduce it, but either way it provides the option of keeping the client off the stand while raising the defense. I would suggest a “Part 2” discussion of what to say/do when the police arrive.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

We're on it Richard! Hope you are doing great!

[@GHOSTINPLAINSIGHT]

Advice I’ve had is basically to say nothing. You will probably be arrested anyway, so invoke you 5th amendment privilege and say nothing. Whatever you do say can and will be used against you.

[@RightWingNutter]

I you detect that the phone is locked by being unable to phone your attorney, I wonder if the “lock” can override or survive powering off the phone then rebooting it. In any case, I have a personal and separate business cell phone, so I can get the lawyer no matter what.

[@cetifoxproductions]

@@ArmedAttorneys Please include what you advise as to what to do with the weapon used in a self-defense case. Obviously, we don't want to be actually holding it when the police arrive.

[@docgsreloading7985]

I am a new subscriber to your channel and love it. I'm so happy that you give legal and common sense advice and I have just started working my way through your videos. I do have a question about this topic. I am a physician trained in Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, and ER Medicine and I also have a CPL and consistently carry. I would never hesitate to save innocent life from a threat. That being said, after I call 911 am I obligated to render care to my assailant? My initial response without even thinking (being a person, and in a profession, that wants to save lives) would be to administer care prior to EMS arriving. I just wouldn't want to be potentially engaged in the act of CPR, etc. and have the arriving officer think I'm the "bad guy" and act accordingly. I didn't know if a jury would say "he's a doctor, trained to save lives and he didn't do anything so he wanted that guy to die", when that would never be the case. Thank you.

[@anonymouslee2083]

Mine probably would be "Someone tried to kill me, I fired shots in self-defense, threat is stopped, I'm at (address), (quick description of me so I don't get shot by cops), I will administer first aid if I can safely do so." Then hang up, call the USCCA attorney (would get FLP, but they're not available in my state)

[@emandejnozka1369]

Thank you.

[@rickstockton6382]

REALLY good last point.

[@actionman9357]

In the state of Illinois, if you used a firearm to defend yourself, even a your home location, YOU WIIL BE ARRESTED FOR MURDER! The Illinois State Attorney will charge you with murder, as he says that ONLY THE POLICE MAY USE DEADLY FORCE. About four years ago, a Galva, Illinois farmer defended himself from an angry drunk that attacked the farmer after the drunk lost control of his pick-up truck and drove into a ditch. The farmer told the drunk he will call 911, the drunk punched the farmer in his face, the farmer shot the ground as a warning. The drunk continued the attack and the farmer attempted to wound the angry drunk in the leg, but nicked the femoral artery and the Angry Drunk became dead, face down in the ditch! The Farmer was arrested for MURDER, but put his ENTIRE FARM PROPERTY as bond/bail. The trial was held about 18 months later. The State Attorney offered a plea of manslaughter and was rejected by the farmer. The State Attorney was given advise NOT TO PROSECUTE the case! But the ego-tripping State Attorney arrogantly continued to trial, AND LOST! The jury acquitted the farmer from ALL CHARGES! The State Attorney told the press "I'm very disappointed with the jury's decision" and later quit his position for the State. Many, many times Illinois citizens are charged with murder after a defensive situation using a firearm. The State of Illinois unofficial policy is to arrest ANYONE using a firearm that results in death, regardless of the claim on self defense. The States Attorney's Office say it is up to the defendant to prove the to the jury the shooting was justified. Illinois will hope THAT YOU WILL LOSE!

[@travelingrvrv4608]

Thank you for this information. This is good and it is best to prepare for this in advance.

[@garron6775]

Thank you!

[@missinglink7709]

On mine, I called, said I was attacked, i am wounded, the assailant is wounded and immobilized. The scene is safe all weapons are now unloaded. He was dead, i never even went into station for more interviews. I kept my mouth shut. Then hung up because i needed to hold my arm that had a deep cut. I probably would of stayed on the phone if not for that. First on scene was emt she advised me to not elaborate and state facts then shut up.

[@warskye5686]

Thanks

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Anytime Skye!

[@knastera]

The reason that I say nothing to 911 apart from my name, the location, and that an ambulance is needed after being involved in a lethal force self defense situation is my memory may not be fully reliable and I might end up saying something incorrect.

[@billroettgen7099]

Great video. Have to go with Emily where they disagreed. Thanks so much for this really valuable, cut to the quick video.

[@barthennin6088]

Great video! Some further interesting questions arise... OK, you've completed the 911 cal and the police (and EMS) are 'on their way'... Now... What do you do with the weapon you used to defend yourself?... I'm assuming your safety as officers enter takes priority but I'm also sure that optimizing one's legal position would come into play too. What statements do you make to the officers re where the weapon is? Are you required to turn over the weapon? Do the police have a right to search your home for more weapons under any "probable cause" or would they need a warrant?...If the police ask to search, my understanding is it's always best to say 'no' and force them to establish probable cause in court (if things end up there) but, on the other hand, in court, the prosecution could say, "LOOK, the defendant didn't even want us searching his house to figure out what happened..."

[@leadpilled5567]

I think all of this goes back to the KISS saying. Keep it simple stupid. And like you said no matter what you say the prosecution will have months to figure how to twist your 60 second call at the most stressful moment in your life. We were always taught to give location name phone number and only that I was involved in a self defense incident and I need police and EMS and say nothing else

[@Gregandbrandi]

Thank you

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Welcome!

[@largelarry2126]

Something I have done for years is to hold the phone upside down along with turning the sound all the way down and not lessening to the other person talk. This way you are much less likely to answer any of the questions they ask and remain in control the full time and I think this would be a big help with 911 dispatchers. If you do this, you will find that as it dawns on the other person that you can't hear them, they will start listening and stop talking automatically. Having a cheat sheet handy will also keep you from making any mistakes. Just like defending your family, yourself and your castle, having a plan will always increase your chances of winning.

[@DoubleplusUngoodthinkful]

My 911 call will be "I'm calling to report shots fired at [address]. One person injured. Scene is secure. *click*" I'll let the dispatcher, who does this for a living, decide what services are needed. Also, I will give the police my ID when they arrive.

[@ronaldpotter2519]

Great information and very informative! Love the channel. Both of you have to be the nicest attorneys I've ever heard of! I'm from the state of Oregon which has turned very liberal to the left and the governor has passed many new gun laws without the vote of the people. Oregon is an open carry state and I found it's relatively easy to get a CHL/concealed handgun license if you can pass a background check. Oregon used to be conservative, but my state has been taken over by Californians and Washington staters. What happens in those 2 states eventually spill into Oregon. Oregon's 2A rights are constantly being attacked. My question is what kind of personal attorney should I have on speed dial? Is a USCCA membership sufficient? I know that USCCA is not recognized in Washington State. God bless Texas! I'd move there in a heartbeat but it's too hot for this native Oregonian lol

[@edb3877]

That Washington - Oregon thing goes BOTH ways. We too have been over-run by Californians, especially in the Seatle area.

[@natethegreatog]

Always grateful for your knowledge thank you!

[@glennbroce]

I appreciate the info. One of many moving parts in self-defense, that a lot of us may not have thought about. Thanks!

[@Leonardokite]

Good advice. I hope I never need it.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Very wise!

[@samcostanza]

I appreciate Emily's instruction to state you were attacked, then relate that you had to use deadly force to end the threat. This very much mirrored my LTC class instruction. Don't just say, "I shot someone," relate that you were attacked, and forced to use deadly force. BTW, if you're carrying, you need to join USCCA or Texas Law Shield. Keep that card in your wallet next to your LTC, so you never misplace it.

[@KingMusa99]

#BIGFACTS!!! @Darth Beavis 🍻

[@nateschlegel8448]

Those are great ccw insurance companies. I’d recommend using CCW Safe, as they don’t have limits on their coverage. Love USCCA too!

[@mikecamden]

Firearms Legal Protection covers me. There is a real difference between insurance coverage and other options when you need legal protection after an encounter. Everyone should research their options (and read reviews) before they blindly buy into any of them. But, everyone should have *some kind* of coverage though. Saving lives shouldn't cost you everything else.

[@feliciasisk494]

@@nateschlegel8448 us law shield has no caps either.

[@Me2Lancer]

I'm with you Darth and I'm a member of Texas Law Shield.

[@halletts1171]

Excellent!!!

[@VinceLoPresti1570]

More outstanding content! Keep up the good work!

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Much appreciated!

[@spaz13b]

Great tip BTW!

[@edmonddsilva7069]

EVERYONE should have a printed prepared "check-list" ALWAYS at hand, (with their lawyers contact details & instructions, at the very top) when dealing with the police, like pilots do before take off. This list should be checked by your lawyer beforehand. Great video. Many Thanks.

[@leesmith5419]

That was some very good advice thank you for this video

[@ArmedAttorneys]

You are so welcome Lee!

[@paraAA82]

Counselors, good general advice. But definitely can be better. Good job 👍👍

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Yes! Thank you Jose!

[@Hawk1966]

The cop, a 20+ year veteran, who taught my concealed carry firearms proficiency class said the basic and simplest 911 call should be your location, name and just "I need police and an ambulance. Someone has been shot." then hang up.

[@ArmedAttorneys]

That may be the right answer (depending on the situation)! Unfortunately, there’s no “one size fits all” solution.

[@Hawk1966]

@@ArmedAttorneys yup! Yup! Make it #hort, sweet and try not to say anything stupid or incriminating. "I can't believe he crawled that far with 12 rounds in his back!"

[@ArmedAttorneys]

😂

[@geraldschwartz5677]

This is the correct response.

[@ibpositivemostly7437]

Cool video thanks.

[@johnnyadams1755]

Great content, keep up the good work 👍👍👍

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thank you Johnny!

[@centexsho3579]

I've been a 911 dispatcher for an agency in central Texas for 18 years. I don't know about all the recording systems in use throughout America, but if you call and I answer the recording starts before you hear the "ring" and it will keep recording until I disconnect. You may think you have ended the call but it doesn't end until I disconnect or until your phone has no power to operate. And it can go either way-you may say something that will totally clear you and you may say something that puts you in the worst bed and breakfast in Texas!

[@deplorableredneck4.02]

You two are awesome

[@ArmedAttorneys]

Thanks Red!

[@garythornbury9793]

your videos are great

[@hughbo52]

Good advice, just as I thought except for hanging up. Upon arrival I'm saying I've contacted my attorney and have been advised to wait for his further instruction and don't say anything else.

[@Other_People]

Calling 911 has literally saved my life twice, but it's kinda creepy knowing so many people are listening.

[@tedwalford7615]

On a 911 call, why say "shooting," "shot," "gunshot," or the like at all? Everything "gun" just escalates the matter several levels. Rather, "A man I don't know attacked me, and he's injured, send police and EMS. He's wearing a gray hoodie."

[@h2odragon1]

" Shots fired, Shots Fired Man down" and address Only!