X is now a PYRAMID SCHEME great...

[@krakskrik]

Xcrement.

[@jamesdegriz]

Full of Effluentsers

[@stage6fan475]

YES!!!

[@rillwyacandelario7449]

At least excrement can be useful as fertilizer. X is only useful for porn videos or help billionaires burn the world.

[@chungusbooper]

Xitter (pronounced shitter).

[@treyjordan3168]

Xhitter

[@JustGem87]

I'm still not calling it X

[@LegendConsole]

Might as well, Twitter is dead.

[@PaulHofreiter]

Same.

[@avesatanae]

Only losers and elon musk ass kissers call it eggs.

[@marcfie7095]

It is not Twitter anymore. Bluesky could rename to "old Twitter" at this point.

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Call it Xitter, then everyone understands.

[@KitOConnell]

X and Meta have spent so much energy throttling the level of engagement that creators get. As a result, you can be on bsky with half the followers and still get a bigger reach than on X.

[@StoutShako]

Exactly what I've noticed

[@Rietto]

Instagram has been killing small artists and people who actually want to post pictures and have people see them, it's completely stupid. They removed searching for tags, and will soon be removing tag functionality entirely.

[@metallboy25]

😂 libtагd

[@lolkthnxbai]

I'm more of a reply guy and on X I get like 3 likes almost no retweets because between the funny and unfunny and bots paying for priority blue badge your comment is at the bottom. On bluesky I get like 30 on a decent and 600+ on bangers and even retweets. The engagement is so much better.

[@Catheidan]

I think so much less of anyone still on twitter. you might not be nazi, but you're clearly still okay with associating with them.

[@jaymaxwell8645]

"Enshitification" was added to the dictionary this year for a reason.

[@ekki1993]

About 10 years too late, when the problem can no longer be brushed aside to let corporations do their thing.

[@UCXEO5L8xnaMJhtUsuNXhlmQ]

Incredible that they thought $1k was enough to buy silence from the person who reported on the accounts

[@GigiBranconi]

Honestly that's just insulting.

[@StoutShako]

I thought the $1000 was just a payment for services? Like even if the guy snitched, what could anyone do to stop them?

[@not-actually-that-creative]

⁠​⁠@@StoutShakoIt was originally 700 for them to delete the thread and say that they lied. After that was refused, the amount was raised to 1000 to just delete the thread

[@juances]

So this is a new variant of an old problem: bots. In hindsight this was bound to happen sooner or later, someone figuring out they could use a bot farm on community notes, twitter has always struggled with this.

[@stage6fan475]

And they fired most of anti-bot personnel.

[@JontysCorner]

There were issues in the past with bots, yes, but this isn't just a variant. Bots have increased at least 10,000% since Elmo took over. This, just like literally everything that's gone wrong for that site, is an Elmo problem and nothing else.

[@twitchew]

i think that there was a reason that the old company didn't go hell bent for notes as a replacement for mods, or even aggressively rolled it out. it wouldn't take too much to "game". With the removal of safeguards like cross checks, fact checkers, verification etc) it just fell part at record speed.

[@infinitykiyen6270]

​@@stage6fan475Actually they also do bots too... So those Elon Musk deleted off the group are not even better. Its just the law of the internet lol Expect bots!!!

[@ekki1993]

@@infinitykiyen6270 The problem is that Elon is clearly too stupid and lacking in foresight to expect bots.

[@Naomi_Boyd]

Every time I log into X, I just get a wall of engagement farming. Direct monetization ruins every platform it touches. From Elsagate to AI spambots, just look at what's happened to KZbin since they started paying creators for clicks. There are much better ways to monetize social media contributors, but these platforms only care about the easy way, and it's hot garbage.

[@KRJayster]

But I thought Daddy Musky was going to get rid of all the bots and fix Twitter and make it super special awesome… I can't even finish that sentence. I fucking hate this timeline. So glad I got off that site, now of course the Xitheads are trying to ruin other websites and not just their own. -_-

[@alaric_]

He even tried to stop the purchase by claiming Twitter had too much bots. Now, he is directly pushing for more bots for the platform.

[@HyperSonicSquall]

nah, the bot problem wasn't that they existed, it's that they existed for free

[@ProffyChaos]

It is now just his propaganda machine.

[@infinitykiyen6270]

​@@alaric_The problem is X or Twitter allowed any account creation to be made. You should check that he even wish he could lock the account to just Citizens ID so nobody will just spam bots. TBH the bots problem is every social media... Its actually dishonest to say this is X or Twitter problem... Trust me you can even just create a bit yourself and do it too. So is this X or Twitter problem? Just humans being humans lol

[@olafthebear2327]

After reading that reddit post, I'd put my money on "X takes all of the ad money. The revenue creators get comes only from other premium subscribers' payments, based on engagement" If I was a betting man, anyway

[@timothypeterson4781]

I really, really think you're looking back at Twitter with rose colored glasses.

[@murrethmedia]

Back in the day you could get reach but you'd be censored for really dumb shit, now you can't get reach unless you pay but you don't get censored as much. (Still happens, but not as much) Both ways suck, just differently.

[@frankbauerful]

My beginning of video ad is for some crypto "investment". 😁. Pretty sure they will find plenty of new investors among viewers of a video whose title contains "pyramid scheme".

[@jochenkraus7016]

They might still find some who think they are early enough to get away with some profit.

[@Sawolf151]

Calling Twitter "excellent" before Elon is mental. Postal even. It was never this horrible but in no universe it was ever good to begin with... ever! Never.

[@chelvo56]

pre 2014 was pretty okay from what i heard via hearsay

[@dieyng]

@@chelvo56 You write this and don't even see how ridiculous it is? "I heard from hearsay it was pretty okay..." effing fantastic.

[@Korkapotomis]

​@@chelvo56don't even say anything if you don't know. You just look daft.

[@MediaMunkee]

Twitter was pretty okay back before it became a full blown social media site. There didn't used to be a timeline of promoted posts, it was basically to pagers what instant messengers were to email, where you had a character limit that basically let you get out one good-sized sentence and maybe a half and all interactions were with other accounts of people you knew and had already friended. It rapidly went to hell after the extension of the character limit, but I think the first real nail in the coffin was when it implemented endless scrolling. Ever since then it's been by far the worst actually-active social media site I can think of.

[@demonicsquid7217]

It was good up until about four years ago. There was an explosion in crapness around the pandemic. Same thing with Reddit.

[@CainXVII]

I don't think you are entirely right on the bluesky thing. The people I follow have recently jumped ship and are staying on bluesky, because even if the audience is still a bit smaller their content doesn't get throttled by an algorithm that doesn't like you posting links. Tweeting without being able to link to your show/news site so on isn't worth so much. Also, people have at last decided to choose one site to go to as an alternative and aren't dividing up between different ones anymore. And a lot of us had already left twitter and will not go back there, we joined bluesky now that it became the alternative. You say that content creators keep to twitter because "everyone is there", but that is not true anymore. I deactivated my account ages ago and can't follow anyone on twitter anymore. A lot of journalists are in the process of leaving because of the problems with the site. Content creators that have a more left-leaning bend find more success on bluesky because their fans have already left Twitter or only need a little nudge to do so.

[@jousis_]

Yeah, bs is getting better and better. I barely open twt anymore.

[@StevenZephyc]

The problem with bluesky is the same with reddit: you're always one day from making a mistake and getting banned off the platform.

[@giwake]

​@@StevenZephyclolwut? i haven't seen all that many bans save for spam accounts and obvious trolling attempts. hell, right now jesse singal, a journalist who has a history of doxxing and harassing trans people, is currently unbanned despite multiple reports containing evidence of his harassment.

[@Deeble17]

I don't use either, but even if follow count drops by half or more, is that not expected? How many accounts on Twitter are dead accounts, when was the last time they logged in? BS is a growing site, it's natural it'd start off slower. I'm actually surprised at how many actually did move over, going off of Callum's numbers.

[@Korkapotomis]

Blue sky will be dead in months. Same crap as mastodon. Libs cry and leave for a few months then come back. Bsky is just another place for pdf's to gather.

[@DemonicAkumi]

I truly loathe these creatures, that are still somehow considered humans, that just want to ruin everything just for possible profit.

[@IvanaKill.]

I couldn't have said this better myself and I am with you on this. They are literally going to destroy everything good about the internet because they can not control themselves

[@doomspud6302]

Advertisers, investors, executives, and "Money Men" of all types. Every time they get what they want, everything gets worse for everyone. Including them, even though they'll never admit it. Because who cares if you and everyone you know is miserable, as long as you have more money than you could possibly spend in a hundred lifetimes!

[@user-vf1zw3wn3m]

I've seen this issue months ago when a political streamer covering China showed a community note on a video saying it was Taiwanese policemen attacking a civilian. But in reality it was in mainland China. It has been used on other occasions to blame other countries other than China. And it just seems like community notes tend to be abused by corporations or states who just want to cover something up.

[@Fudmottin]

Wow. So because I'm not "verified" my engagement was worthless. But now if I were to decide to pay the $8/mo to be verified, my engagement would _still_ be worthless? Damn. Way to shut me up. I miss the old twitter. It was special. Say what you will about it. But it was.

[@cherry9787]

The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

[@HereticalKitsune]

Worthless only for a monetary level. Depending on who you interact with, you could make someone's day. But yeah, old Twitter was good.

[@Fudmottin]

@@HereticalKitsune I was never on twitter to make money. I don't get out much, so the social engagement is what matters to me. If it's all going to be about money, then I'm that old man shouting at the clouds. How ignominious.

[@jamespilcher5287]

give bluesky a try, you might be pleasantly surprised

[@ImortalZeus13]

Bluesky is actually Twitter from 15 years ago. It’s insane, go use it.

[@hanneskarlbom6644]

Remember: Callum Upton is a very happy person who wishes to live a long life.

[@warmak4576]

Wrong crowd dude.

[@hanneskarlbom6644]

@warmak4576 ?

[@hanneskarlbom6644]

@warmak4576 what?

[@warmak4576]

@@hanneskarlbom6644 what you said only work if he was talking about the fbi/cia and the clints with the dude with his special island.

[@hanneskarlbom6644]

@warmak4576 isn't it anyone with power and reasson to make you vanish?

[@twitchew]

a few people on blu that had done side by side with X, found that they can drive traffic from blu to their own sites (say for concert dates) . also, if someone moves and cant bring followers with them, what the hell kind of clout have they really got? is it they can't win without a pay to play model?

[@nightmarehound]

I feel like a lot of larger creators who spent years building their audience in Twitter have just kinda forgot how to actually socialise in a new platform instead of just posting and letting their fans do the work. I've seen multiple people be like "okay so what am I supposed to do here?" or "I get no engagement here" after a week and posting few times, never following or commenting to anyone. I was in Twitter for a decade, and got the same amount of followers in the year I was in Bsky (not a high number but I'm also not putting effort to do anything differently). The average consensus in people I follow in Bsky (largely artists) is that it feels more like a *social* media because they don't feel pressured to keep a proffessional site with art only, and feel more relaxed to just talk and post memes. Of course this lack of reach is an issue to people relying on social media to make ends meet, but I can't really fairly compare a new platform to a decades old oneand consider it the platform's fault.

[@KingOfMadCows]

I think this kind of thing is inevitable. Because there are already plenty of PR companies that you can pay to boost your social media presence. You pay the PR company and they get a bunch of votes, reposts, and comments for your social media posts/videos. So why wouldn't they also provide the same service with community notes? In fact, it's just a matter of time before the social media companies start offering those services themselves. Why let PR companies make money off of this when they can get paid themselves? And with big tech's increasing political spending and influence, none of this will be regulated.

[@DreaMeRHoLic]

Isnt this just part of the "dead internet theory"? That it becomes so easy to create bot networks that you will have more bots that humans (just look at the youtube first comments on videos). The question is how long it will take to create a system to remove the accounts who voted on this and i would wonder if that data isnt saved (because you get minus points if you voted "wrong" in the end?)

[@monkian]

Yep , I'm long in the tooth and rusty with my programming but with the tools that are publicly availible I can do far more than I could do a decade ago. Anyone or company with the right or wrong motivation could do far more and we are seeing the tip of that. Silver lining I might get to see some of my favourite books come to pass and at least be slightly amused as it crashes down.

[@demonicsquid7217]

It's just an offshoot of SEO. Same scummy and exploitative practices.

The funniest part about this is that X still won't be remotely profitable even if every legitimate user on the platform paid for a premium subscription

[@BCMZeroZero]

Are there reports or resources backing this up? I'm not calling you out or anything, just curious. I don't know how much revenue Twitter would need to make to be profitable. I remember a decade ago when ads on Facebook were becoming really bad, a post was going around that said if every user paid a $12 one-time fee, it could operate without any ads at all. I was always curious about the math and economics on that, too.

[@yol_n]

@@BCMZeroZero they just say what sounds good because they hate elon musk, what do you think it is?

[@Solinaru]

wait, you mean to tell me that you can game x notes like how people have gamed Reddit for decades, and then be insentivsed into posting ragebait for other blue checks to retweet? * shocked pikachu*

[@ryltair]

Musk wants to go to Mars, but can't even run a social media company.

[@catlovingtrio]

The fact that you weren't going to cover the stake thing because you thought it was a nothing burger drama at first, immediately demonstrates that you have more integrity than PenguinZ0, even if only by a little.

[@alexanderr6000]

people getting angry about X criticism because they like Elon, are pretty much in a cult

[@MoltenEQ]

I don't like fanatical haters and cult member-like followers either. I wish people would realize that Elon is a wannabe Tony Stark who's actually more like a grifter. The best stuff "he" does is where he actually doesn't do anything and let people run his companies.

[@ASchnacky]

@@MoltenEQ how could u not love the #1 diablo 4 player in the world

[@aersla1731]

@@MoltenEQ That's pretty much most companies. The main thing that bothers me about elon is just taking credit for others work, and just being a liar; then again you probably don't become rich being honest.

[@demonicsquid7217]

The guy had everything handed to him. His family's fortune was made in African mining operations. It doesn't take a genius to work out that white guys in Africa running mining companies post-WW2 engaged in some pretty awful things. The guy himself got lucky with PayPal and the fruit of other people's hard work and inventiveness.

[@ekki1993]

@@MoltenEQ If your balanced take is that he's a wannabe Tony Stark that is actually a grifter, then you gotta admit that one side is not as wrong as the other.

[@Yogsoggeth]

When social media was expanding to dozens of platforms I was busy playing Warcraft that decade and missed all the hype. I only use KZbin, lol.

[@raafmaat]

haha same boat! i completely missed out on it all, except Steam and Discord, but those are kinda unmissable as a PC gamer

[@ML-qe7ml]

@@raafmaat Discord is actually pleasant because chatrooms are awesome. Steam is fine FWICT.

[@olafthebear2327]

It's a peaceful life. Well, relatively peaceful

[@jochenkraus7016]

Really Warcraft without "World of..."? That's a long time ago 😮

[@theaccountant5846]

I was in prison for a decade and missed the social media wave too. From the sound of it, I'm not missing much.

[@Unprotected1232]

Twitter, eh I mean X, is the only subject that's morally correct to deadname.

[@joehudson7007]

I will deadname it as long as Musk deadnames his child.

[@Fayte91]

No you meant Twitter. X is just a letter in the alphabet

[@chernobyl169]

Didn't have "Callum Upton officially calls X a scam" on my 2024 Bingo card, but it's sure getting scrapped from the 2025 prints.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

Ah forget it, I just used a script to delete all my tweets I might just delete the accounts all together now 10:00 that said, Luigi did nothing wrong we shouldn't pretend he did it and any sensible jury needs to move to anul the charges if they ever find the perpetrator.

[@ISawABear]

im gonna really strongly disagree with the notion that bluesky has less interaction than say twitter- i at least get wayyyy more engagement there than twitter and i recall Thor (pirate software) also said as much for him. annecdotal but still

[@tvctaswegia497]

Seen some substacks where creators say if they don't pay to play they lose 80+% of their traffic/engagement, showed graphs that they're losing heaps each month. In that scheme you might as well cut your losses and move to a platform that isn't out to hamstring you.

[@JontysCorner]

I don't think you've looked widely enough top support some arguments about content creators here Cal. I've seen creators with 25k on X already hitting 17k on bluesky, when factor in the bot problems on X those are comparable numbers. Also, be careful with an arbitrary blanket comment of 'echo chamber' for other sites, this is literally the attacks being used by Elmo stans about the exodus to other options. Plus, remember it's algorithmic on X, you're seeing a spam of stake because of the information you're seeking on there, I know you know this. I don't see stake at all and for the last 6 weeks all I've done is look on X, no posting, searching or interaction and with an F1 focused account I should be flooded with stake stuff due to the link with a team.

[@CallumUpton]

thats definitely true about the bots, very good point! my sample size on that only really consists of people i follow and know. and there are definitely people who have been sucessful on other socials, you just dont see many of them i guess

[@ASchnacky]

@@CallumUpton "my sample size on that only really consists of people i follow and know" this explains it

[@animalhouse8849]

@@ASchnacky This has already been proven false numerous times lmao. This is cope.

[@ASchnacky]

@@animalhouse8849 oh ya, myb. CEOs r bad, Elon Musk is bad, bluesky is best, I'm not a Russian bot, Hunter Biden's laptop is fake, and Ukraine is the best. better now?

[@sadrabbit53]

I left twitter after 2020, but now I'm wondering where all my favorite artists went

[@edwardling9614]

I think everyone went to bluesky

[@Ashgar225]

Artists jumped ship en-masse with the recent AI change. Most of them are on Bluesky now.

[@david18cruz1989]

there is a lot of them on bluesky, and they ve been thriving there

[@whamer100]

bluesky (bsky), mastodon, misskey, bunch of places that actually function unlike twitter now

[@Gabriel-um9hm]

This is a preview of the USA's future.

[@ageoflove1980]

Brawndo...It has Electrolytes!

[@sparthyslaysstuff2405]

Endless grift

[@dependent-ability8631]

*current day

[@doomspud6302]

Are you telling me you DON'T want to live in the Incorporated States of America? Why not? It'll be just like one of those cyberpunk stories everyone loves! Except, you know, without any of the cool parts, like flying cars and cyborgs. But you will still get the hyperinflation, insurmountable wealth inequality, rampant crime and violence, environmental devastation, and total lack of privacy or freedom! So that's still fun, right?

[@ekki1993]

The radical idea of "freedom" with no regulations that these dumbasses try to sell is like not buying food when you want to save money. So they get a modicom of power and just remove any fence without even wondering why the fence is there.

[@stealthnessgames]

Great video. I agree that Mastodon never got the traction, and threads blew their chance a year ago by being too slow in adopting new functionality. But I disagree with you about Bluesky. Four weeks ago, I would say your point was a valid one, but in four weeks, the exceptional growth has reached the point where I think it has overtaken the place to be for up-to-the-minute discourse and news.

[@DeuxisWasTaken]

Threads would've been 5x worse had it succeeded. Joining a Meta-managed social media in 2024 after watching what they did to FB and IG over the past 20 years is mental. Even Elon would have to legitimately intentionally try to do worse, and probably still wouldn't manage.

[@nullfunktion733]

not me getting a suspicious "money making" ad before this video

[@UCXEO5L8xnaMJhtUsuNXhlmQ]

Ublock origin or KZbin revanced

[@Spewf]

Minimum effort maximum profit. The new way of life....🚮

[@the_newt_nest]

Everything is trash!

[@dependent-ability8631]

nah it's been like this for years

[@Reprint001]

I'm not sure that way of life is particularly new. It's just that now you can be lazy and survive. Historically lazy people were weeded out pretty quickly. Or, as it is today, they'd inherited sufficient wealth that they could afford to be lazy.

[@Brixxter]

I've left twitter the day Musk took over and I haven't looked back. By staying on the platform, people are actively giving it power. Just leave.

[@scottbuggy5634]

You are not missing much. I'm even getting pushed pro hitler and pro nazi propaganda, and they do not get banned while some lefty account gets banned for having pronouns in their name it's a dumpster fire. Full of lies and propaganda, even their community notes are really biased, not even producing facts or linking credible sources.

[@sirflimflam]

I don't use social media at all, I avoided myspace, friendster, facebook, twitter all these years...but what I have seen is a lot of content creators I follow are actually getting more engagement on the alternate sites, rather than less. Can't say it's true across the board, but while their actual view counts and follower counts are often lower due to the sheer scale of x, the actual real engagement tends to be higher.

[@arkosilaura]

You missed out then... and no wonder you don't care about social media if you never had MySpace. MySpace was one of the first and last legitimately amazing social media platforms ever. A lot of people who are upset about social media being garbage are people who lived through the MySpace-era and miss it, cause it was actually good.

[@froggyringu]

I hate to break it to you...but KZbin is a social media platform.

[@tripleheadedmonkey420]

I didn't use Twitter before and I don't use X now. But this sounds like exactly the same problems that Wikipedia has.

[@Proserpira]

Got in trouble with my friends by being so vocal about how much i despise Wikipedia. It just makes sense to me - you don't know who is writing these articles nor what their knowledge is, and you don't have details on their sources. The french Dreyfus article was at one time (not sure if still the case) was entirely based on an anti-Dreyfus book. This wasn't mentionned anywhere, nor was it disputed.

[@SioxerNikita]

​@@ProserpiraLet's do what the concept of Wikipedia is partially based on, and do some corrections. You don't know who ALL the people writing the article are. You can find the second link sources (terrible wikipedia source) as they are at the bottom. You can see editor discussions as well as all edits throughout history of the site. This obviously doesn't eliminate bias(a majority / admin can overrule), but still a hella lot ,ore reliable than you misrepresenting wikipedia. You can technically know who is writing the articles, ips, log time and account names are there. About as reliable as author na,es in school books are, until you verify them... Yeah, relatively unknown articles ends up being edited by few, but that is not really the general site, is it? Most are editing English wikipedia... Please be skeptical of wikipedia, but at least present it in an honest light.

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

The tyranny of weirdoes who shout loudest... which means you end up with Wikipedia pages that suggest a creature like David Icke is legitimate.

[@tripleheadedmonkey420]

@@SioxerNikita The way I see it a lot of these articles are edited by people paid to present certain politicians in a positive light. Especially with regard to personal wikipedia pages which in some cases omit some things which would make that politician look bad.

[@SioxerNikita]

@@tripleheadedmonkey420 And so are achool books, scientific papers, etc. Bizs is everywhere. Most wikipedia pages are fine, but sure, some are bad, but you can cjeck the behind the scenes if you want, instead of assuming

[@uncle-bin1750]

Meanwhile Elon breaks the 400b$ barrier. This guy is insanely rich and he just does whatever he wants. Oligarchy at it's finest...

[@everlonggaming1966]

Whispers: if you build it bots will come

[@tatertime]

Twitter has always sucked... It just sucks worse now

[@MikaelaExtra]

I would rather people who on X stay on X

[@nexus3756]

I have to honestly ask. Who is actually using social media? It's objectively the worst way to waste your time. It's a perpetual machine of pushing mental illness, every type of extremism, and making sure your as disconnected as possible with family and friends. for me the internet is literally just watching youtube videos I find funny or interesting. I dont use social media. I dont use basically any site. It's just youtube. I have a discord. It's 99 percent for friends. teh only other time I use it is to get mods for games, or check in on development of games real quick. But I basically don't interact with anybody. I have a private server and am in a couple other private servers. where my friends are. and we hang out like that for online/gaming time... The internet is largely garbage. I mean it is. We know it is. Its all boring bot content.

[@ponzfantasmical5715]

Reddit is sometimes useful for specific things, like casual DIY advice. But yeah, I've never understood the "social" aspect of those sites. They aren't socially fulfilling and they're absolutely a time waster. I guess that's why so many people lack hobbies and personalities these days. They aren't developing themselves.

[@FutureChaosTV]

Don't wanna rattle your stack... BUT, KZbin is also a social media site, just with video at the front position. Commenting here is social interaction, which makes it more or less a social media site.

[@ponzfantasmical5715]

@FutureChaosTV I figured we were all clever enough that the obvious didn't need to be said, but I stand corrected.

[@HereticalKitsune]

Gotta make your billions back somehow! Also damn, what a shit show. I used it for 14 years and left in November for good.

[@Runk3lsmcdougal]

Cry more about the election little boy

[@HereticalKitsune]

@@sadhappy8860 Getting surprised by a good dozen notificiations out of nowhere one morning, all coming from an artist doing a surprise gift for me.

[@AudioYT]

i would like to ask you to continue deadnaming it as twitter just to spite Elon :)

[@chernobyl169]

It's pronounced "twitter" but spelled "X"; since the x is weird in context we just spell it how it's pronounced instead

[@sebbo59]

I thought you guys hated deadnaming

[@dependent-ability8631]

@@sebbo59 who is "you guys"?

[@fomxgorl]

​@@sebbo59twitter is not a person unlike musk's daughter, vivian. if he wants people to stop deadnaming twitter, he needs to stop deadnaming vivian

[@ekki1993]

@@sebbo59 A social media app is a thing that has no feelings.

[@fiereu]

Twitter was never good imho

[@GrubbsandWyrm]

Bluesky is a nice olace to meet people. Part of what keeps it nice is that it isn't a career making place. I hope it stays like it is

[@the_newt_nest]

You can't have both Elon being the most popular and beloved boy on the platform and the platform being successful as social media. So you have to make revenue somehow.

[@sebbo59]

Twitter was "fantastic" before Elon? Bro, what are you smoking and can I have some. Twitter has always been horrible

[@COOLAUSTINO]

it’s gotten SO MUCH worse that it feels like it used to be fantastic, and comparatively, it was lmao

[@redrj]

A lot of ppl I follow have transitioned to Bluesky or are at least keeping a presence on both X being where "everyone is" is going to slowly stop being the case. It's turning into Truth Social 2 the only thing keeping me on X is memes and shitposting, memes on Bluesky is weak rn

[@ZiroZerserus]

I'm not going to accept that you say that moderation used to be better. Well, having a lot of people censoring political positions that don't match their own had the side effect of making them do their job because there were so many of them from time to time. Yes, he removed a lot of people who moderated and that's something that needs to be fixed. But moderation used to be better only because they used a shotgun to attack those who didn't think like them.

[@UlshaRS]

Gotta grift em all, Elon-con!

[@RagnarokiaNG]

How is it possible to have made the BBC abandon their social media and for them to be the victims in the situation? Of all the overwhelming legitimate things that they could have been forced to flee from confronting, THIS is what does it?

[@omgitsbees]

Twitter is just absolute cancer. Glad I decided to stop being on the platform once the block user change took affect.

[@PaulHofreiter]

Unless you’re in a situation like Callum (ie a well known CC), literally just don’t use twitter. It is an actual cesspool. People love to complain about it and then run back to post and get rage baited on twitter again. Like, just *don’t use it*.

[@MoltenEQ]

Hey Callum and fellow commenters, please watch out, there are some weirdo bots on this vid with stupid "sexy" comments, pf pic and generic names. Take care!

[@ASchnacky]

they from blue sky hating on x

[@Calamity556]

Dead Internet Theory has never been more true...

[@tubensalat1453]

Had to think of Elvis' manager who supposedly sold "I hate Elvis" buttons to profit from them too. The only surprising thing for me here is the ever new lows *that* person is taking that platform to.

[@thomaskneisel1854]

X the freedom to slop ...

[@IronicCliche]

Twitter went to shit years before X. Community notes helped a problem that now needs to be fixed again. Edit: I also agree the X premium monetization strategy is a problem that likely won't be fixed

[@TheaArtsFox]

It is why i check by myself the popular stuffs before believe them. sometimes is viased info or judgement, and now with this problem, bots ruining good ideas. and why I also have no trust in user score based stuffs, it been long ago know people use rating systems as weapon too. "I dislike somethings, review bombing" so sickening.

[@SioxerNikita]

Sorry. But pay to play here is not pyramid scheme, unless you earn based on the income of those you invite/support. There is a pretty decent definition of pyramid scheme, and it is not this.

[@cooperhill6054]

Twitter banned right wing voices so they moved to Parker and truth social. Now that twitter allows right wing voices, the users come back. As a result the left wing voices felt displeased and they voluntarily moved to bluesky.

[@cooperhill6054]

Let me tell you about my experience so far: > get premium > immediately suspended for being a bot > locked out of premium content > no way to contact support For better or worse the twitter backend still makes the platform unusable.

[@BerixMaster2010]

Maybe its because I'm in some different spheres of Twitter (mostly art and a handful of bloggers and independent journalists), but BlueSky has been doing fairly well still from what I can see for the people I know who somewhat moved there. Most of the artists there I know are getting similar or more attention, and some bloggers are actually more popular there than they are on Twitter now! Back on topic though, the state of X Formerly Known As Twitter is genuinely pathetic. The premium payouts especially seem like a desperate and sketchy way to squeeze what money they can out of the dying userbase.

[@useless4692]

I haven't used X in over a year and I fully expected the service to go downhill with Musk in charge But I didn't think X'd go THAT LOW

[@ekki1993]

You know billionaires can't be billionaires in a meritocracy because... well, because nobody can work thousands of time harder/smarter than entire families of middle class workers. But, also, because whenever a billionaire makes a public decision by themselves it's utterly stupid, like we've seen with Meta and X.

[@JohnSmith-lr6qy]

I do think you should've discussed other effects of requiring premium for premium users to get paid for engagement. Like the effects it has or may have on botting, which Twitter (sorry I mean X) has a big problem with. It is also a way to prevent losses to the company when users bot responses to themselves.

[@modelmajorpita]

Even if twitter has more users, it also suppresses outside links now which makes it useless for a lot of artists, journalists, and other creators. People are getting far, far more website visitors from their bluesky account than their twitter account even though the bluesky account has a fraction of the followers.

[@twitchew]

i love driving outrage traffic! (i also thought that weaponization of community notes would be used to savage other user's content, but making it even more misinformation. it's almost what the people that rejected community notes when twitter first started to experiment with the system figured would happen and dropped the project.)

[@techienate]

They should attack the source of the stake spam by removing every image containing their logo from the platform. Boom problem solved, and this can be reported any time a similar company pulls this stunt. The community note manipulation needs a similar level of drastic action, though that will be more complicated.

[@allgreatnike1009]

Amazing video. I haven't commented in a while. but your covering of this is pretty good.

[@half-faust]

Honestly, I thought pre-takeover Twitter was already pretty toxic, although I agree none of the competitors had a serious chance at that point. That they've managed to make it much worse is almost impressive.

[@NShimaru]

I went from a 25K twitter account to a Bsky account that's now around 5k followers, at this point the engagement isn't that much worse on Bsky than it was on twitter in the final weeks before the switch. I do agree that getting real traction on threads seems difficult, but Bsky is doing pretty alright. I'm a digital artist btw so my following is mostly built up of other artists, I can imagine the experience being different based on the type of content you create. Most artists I know let go of X at this point.

[@TikkiNikki]

X for thoughts and prayers to anyone who thinks Twitter is better now. They have a hard life ahead

[@fredhurst2528]

When was twitter ever good? (edit) Sorry Callum, I like you, but declaring that you are for free speech is lame. It is too complex a subject now in the world of social media, AI and bots. At this point, it is just like any other virtue signaling.

[@steamkenny4385]

There absolutely no reason to use Twitter, not one.

[@Shabanezloth]

Why are there still people on Twitter? People/companies that have a financial incentive to keep using it, I can understand. But people who make zero money from Twitter, just why?

[@ashbelero]

Personally I’m getting more engagement on Bluesky than I ever have on Xitter. There’s no algorithm. I only get shown things people I follow interact with. Generally that’s the only thing I want to see anyway. The problem is Xitter influencers are used to shouting into the void and letting the algorithm handle the rest. You have to engage with the community for it to engage with you on Bluesky.

[@jrbaxterstockman548]

Like tiktok or not, the monetization plans of all other social media sites will probably be tweaked for the worse with its banning. KZbin shorts came out of the gate with extremely competitive compensation. It got a fairly good amount of people from tiktok to start cross posting. You think they'll keep that still have that same competitive compensation when there's no tiktok to compete against?

[@zimbu_]

Seems to me like this "choosing community noter accounts" thing is just another problem on the internet already solved by RuneScape in the early-to-mid 00s, in this case in 2004 with the launch of the RuneScape player moderator system. How an account can get access to posting community notes should have been kept mostly a tight secret only known by the developers and maintainers of the community note system, with only a vague description as to what sort of behaviour could make you qualify, and the exact formula of how the choice is made should also get altered from time to time. Also, keep it very rare, as that way you can keep an eye on them, you kinda naturally foster a community noter community, and there will be just enough of them to help on big events that are making the site look bad as they happen instead of becoming a group that mostly does work that should be getting automated instead. Oh, and give community note accounts a cool silver medal badge, because it costs nothing and people will avoid doing things that could make them lose their cool badge.

[@Mepper.]

Twitter had bot problems. I don't think they have gotten any worse now that it is X. I also haven't seen any evidence of the bot problem improving under X. KZbin has bot problems. Instagram has bot problems. If Bluesky doesn't have bot problems now then it will have them soon enough. Bluesky is a terrible echo chamber and seems to want it to be that way. X somewhat less so since the management is more agnostic now. If all you want is to yell into the void you can do it on either platform. If you only want to be surrounded by people that think the same as you then you can probably find a suitable community on either platform, especially if you bring your friends along from whatever platform you were already using.

[@Shaunxp]

so glad i deleted twitter and got lue sky tbh. not seeing this shite is a breath of fresh air

[@jonas5205]

That sounds less like a pyramid scheme and more like a ponzi scheme

[@samiraperi467]

Twitter was crap even before Musk.

[@angrybidoof847]

Yeah but it now diarrhea

[@Operational117]

@@angrybidoof847 Without chunks.

[@CaliAntiquity]

The more free people that follow you; the more true you are.

[@harrygreenfeld4964]

I'm not a social media user, but i do like to keep up with whats going on and this, this is just pathetic. Desperate. It assumes everyone is an idiot, one way or another. Which scans, i guess.

[@ProffyChaos]

This is what happens when you outsource quality control.

[@LanternLightexceptasavie-wq6gc]

I mean it didn’t go the way I thought it would. I thought the website would coast for like a week before breaking permanently because he fired most of the engineers

[@Mepper.]

Your story "X is bad" is a poor take on the matter. A better position would be that scum will take advantage of any loopholes that exist in a system. As with any abuse, the question is when will the system introduce changes to try to curb the abuse. If you are trying to say that X doesn't care about the abuse then you need to bring more evidence to the table than "they haven't fixed it yet". The community notes were a response to abuses of the system. Now that the community notes are recognized as being prone to abuse X will need to come up with another solution, but just removing community notes would re-enable the original abuses.

[@GeorgeSu15]

a bunch of people are gonna pay for this and still get zero traction.

[@intruder313]

Twitter was bad but Musk did a great job making X unbearable. Guess this is the endgame

[@partlyawesome]

Its interesting, all the creators who I've seen move to bluesky have seen a massive uptick in engagement with their posts.

[@karri-sebastiancalitu4306]

So, they added twitch prime or youtube premium ?

[@ageoflove1980]

Weird how Musk went from a tech frontrunner to a Trump simp shilling for gambling sites...

[@dependent-ability8631]

he just doesn't need to pretend anymore

[@anonihme5142]

frontrunner? with his shitty stupid cars with proprietary chargers and rockets that can’t even reach the moon? he’s always been a vaporware salesman

[@ageoflove1980]

@anonihme5142 yeah sure but I'm more talking about the "image" he is going for. He probably always was a snake oil guy, but he really was going for that geeky tech nerd thing. That really seems long gone.

[@WolfBergMenace]

So glad I quit Twitter in favor of Bluesky.

[@infinitivez]

Last I checked, you can't add a community note, unless you pay for X? So already, community notes are likely to be biased in some degree. Botnetting a note into the top spot is just yet another step in the wrong direction.

[@BlisaBLisa]

you dont have to pay for twitter to be able to add community notes. you can sign up and you have to sort of earn points by rating suggested community notes (if you vote for something that ends up as the community note you earn points, if you vote for something that most people vote against you lose points etc)

[@infinitivez]

@@BlisaBLisa Is there a way to check these points? I've had an account since before community notes came out, I wonder just how many points you need / how did the first people making notes get them? edit: I guess I somehow hit the threshold recently, since now it's only asking for me to verify my phone number. edit2: so wait, can people with premium skip the line? Because before this, I know it was asking me to sign up to request a community note, and now it just wants a phone verification.

[@benedict6962]

So it took a year for them to get through community notes. Sounds about right.

[@HappyBell92]

That thing about content creators with thousands of followers leaving twitter to other social medias and only getting 12 followers there smells like utter bollocks to me or they are doing something horribly wrong. Also I follow a ton of artists on Blue Sky and there has been many posts from them saying that even tho they have less followers on Blue Sky they get a ton more interactions compared to Twitter for example one had around 70k followers on Twitter and around 10k on Blue Sky posted an art piece they made and on Twitter they got about a hundred interactions but on Blue Sky they got several thousands of interaction (interactions here being likes, comments, and re-posts)

[@tripleheadedmonkey420]

Pyramid schemes are only pyramid schemes when the money doesn't flow both ways. If money flows in both directions, for example through advertising revenue coming in, then it is not a pyramid scheme. Nice clickbait though.

[@Joemamahahahaha821]

Easy mark

[@tripleheadedmonkey420]

@@Joemamahahahaha821 I'm not saying it's a great long-term investment plan. But it's definitely not a Ponzi scheme either.