Fort Drum: America's Unsinkable 'Concrete Battleship'

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Calum

Calum

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@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Who spotted the swimming pool? Patreon: www.patreon.com/calumraasay Edit: thanks to those who pointed this out- I misspoke about the floor space: 30,000 square feet of floor space not 3000! Apologies I should have caught it during the edit 👍🏻
@user-ci9ng7uu4i
@user-ci9ng7uu4i 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was called “Manila Bay” back then
@TheGermanDude
@TheGermanDude 3 жыл бұрын
i saw it
@niemanickurwa
@niemanickurwa 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting and professional documentary man.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
@@niemanickurwa my Superhero name
@miked884
@miked884 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ci9ng7uu4i still called it today
@Nous_nous_amusames
@Nous_nous_amusames 3 жыл бұрын
The story of this island should be made into an Epic war film. Based around it's strategic location and Martial history, the battles from each era, the attempts to destroy it, and then recapture it, culminating into the grand finale. What a story man! Thanks for sharing this.
@Luis-be9mi
@Luis-be9mi 3 жыл бұрын
Similar fashion as The Siege of Jadotville? Both defenders surrendered, but they made sure the enemy paid a VERY high price for their victory.
@alvaroruizcendon8390
@alvaroruizcendon8390 3 жыл бұрын
Yes... but the first character of the film should be the fort, not an actor, soldier, general whatever.... an Oscar for the FORT
@bjw4859
@bjw4859 3 жыл бұрын
Just thought of a fictional post apocalyptical movie idea, the last remains of humanity chased onto the fort by zombie/monsters & the survivors fight a pitched battle using the last of the ammunition left stored there to make zombies go boom & as the tide seems to have turned against us, someone gets that old de salinization plant working to produce zombie melting juice, just a thought.
@blackbeard6861
@blackbeard6861 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjw4859 nope just keep it historical
@wyattpeterson6286
@wyattpeterson6286 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it's historically accurate and uses no CGI.
@pickleman40
@pickleman40 3 жыл бұрын
The construction of this fort is a great example of mission creep. Originally intended to merely plug the gap between land to prevent sneaking into the harbor, it ended up being one of the strongest naval forts ever
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Good point! I guess the extra strengthening was partly a “well, we’re going to all this trouble anyway might as well make it count”
@Matt-yg8ub
@Matt-yg8ub 2 жыл бұрын
And that “creep” paid off.
@Khajiidaro
@Khajiidaro 2 жыл бұрын
It's like a statement of how the USA fights conflicts, it's either all or nothing we have no chill and can stand the test of time.
@etholus1000
@etholus1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@Khajiidaro that’s always been our tenacious resolve. Hopefully we don’t totally ruin ourselves from the inside though..
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
it’s also the last time coastal fortifications were built by the US ending 165 years of building big gun forts at harbor entrances
@jamesvanderpoel2135
@jamesvanderpoel2135 3 жыл бұрын
I flew over Fort Drum several times while landing in Manila and seen it distantly from Corregidor Island, I would love to see it up close. Unfortunately I was stationed at the "other" Fort Drum, the frozen hell in upstate New York.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yeah a lot of my research had to start with me specifying Fort Drum PHILIPPINES haha!
@petenielsen6683
@petenielsen6683 3 жыл бұрын
I am from Syracuse and remember after the blizzard of '93 everyone saying "bring it on" when we already had far more than the average 123 inches of snow for the season!
@1224chrisng
@1224chrisng 3 жыл бұрын
isn't the star fort on Liberty Island basically New York's version of Manila's Ft. Drum?
@stevenearlsmith2595
@stevenearlsmith2595 3 жыл бұрын
Surrounded by “Bufferillas”!
@jamesvanderpoel2135
@jamesvanderpoel2135 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenearlsmith2595 and COW's ( Citizens Of Watertown)
@ventus5211
@ventus5211 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in the Philippines all my life, and never knew about Fort Drum. Amazing piece of history.
@R3TR0J4N
@R3TR0J4N Жыл бұрын
iwitness local documentary featured fort drum for the past decade
@jesse75
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
Most Filipino I have met don't know much about the history of their country. They don't seem to care.
@romulopartoza5598
@romulopartoza5598 Жыл бұрын
You had to read Phil. History once in a while! for additional learnings!..
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 Жыл бұрын
As a filipino myself, I am ashamed that most of my fellow people are not aware of this
@R3TR0J4N
@R3TR0J4N Жыл бұрын
@@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 no time for being a soapbox. i guess they knew about it as "el fraile" seeing the accumulated views of local content creators and documentary, i hopely assume they do.
@deybicedric
@deybicedric 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought in the defense of Bataan and walked the Death March, was shot by the japanese 4 times and somehow survived, healed, and fought again until liberation. He lived a full life, died at the age of 92, and is forever my hero.
@zen4men
@zen4men 10 ай бұрын
A hero indeed!
@132ew
@132ew 10 ай бұрын
@@zen4men I wonder what would these heroes say about modern world they'd made possible to appear...
@zen4men
@zen4men 10 ай бұрын
@@132ew Horrified, I would think. For many years it looked good, then it steadily went rotten.
@Tiger_III
@Tiger_III 10 ай бұрын
they dont call them the greatest generation for nothing
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes 10 ай бұрын
@@132ewthey would realized they fought a war to put the powers in place that are controlling society and the flow of information
@jpm1477
@jpm1477 3 жыл бұрын
Fort Drum is a sight to see. First time I saw it in person was when I was in a ferry from Manila. I thought it was just an old Navy ship on anchor but as we get a closer look, I realized what it was. I was amazed by the battle scars it has. The holes gives you a perspective of how violent the battles it participated at but you can also clearly see that she was mighty and thicc! Never seen so much thick concrete for a wall in my life.
@srslothington
@srslothington 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes.... le thicc
@Ndlanding
@Ndlanding 3 жыл бұрын
@@srslothington C'est chic!
@ibeatyoutubecircumventingy6344
@ibeatyoutubecircumventingy6344 2 жыл бұрын
she was what Hitler wanted for the Entire Atlantic Coast of Europe lol!
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
and the bulk of those holes were from self-destruction to prevent the fort from being used against them when the US returned, eery to think of the power needed to destroy it inside
@admusic247
@admusic247 Жыл бұрын
That last sentence made me feel like I'm missing out
@johns1307
@johns1307 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like it would make for one hell of a movie.
@jacobs4545
@jacobs4545 3 жыл бұрын
there was one, back in the 40s, it's serviceable and doesnt concentrate on the concrete battleship itself. Imagining hollywood's take on the tale today, with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and Chris Pratt quipping at one another while CGI Japanese enemies swarm them, would finally be enough to give me an aneurysm and grant me the sweet release of death.
@kona8832
@kona8832 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobs4545 Pretty sure most of the soldiers would be black transgender non binary tree people too.
@LunaticTheCat
@LunaticTheCat 3 жыл бұрын
@@kona8832 You have a baby brain
@kona8832
@kona8832 3 жыл бұрын
@@LunaticTheCat welcome to the real world of baby brains
@demef758
@demef758 3 жыл бұрын
@@kona8832 LOL! Funny as hell but true. Although the movie would also have to include a gay romance that breaks out between two of the crew members as well as a strong woman who single-handedly fights off half the IJN.
@themadbomber582
@themadbomber582 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the first time I ever saw this was in the game World of Warships. Sailing around the islands I saw it coming around the corner and was like "the hell is that thing?" before it started shooting at me. A destroyer killed me since I was so fixated on that lil wonder. Found out later it was a real fort which blew my mind. Would love to see this as a movie one day.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow is it in world of warships?
@themadbomber582
@themadbomber582 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay I can't remember what map it was in and it has been a while since I last played. One of the patches introduced island forts that you can activate or control (can't remember, I never got it to work heh). They didn't do much damage but could be destroyed. WoW tries hard to be historically accurate but tosses in things like that once and a while so I didn't think it was real until I looked it up heh.
@jmackmcneill
@jmackmcneill 2 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay ... that sounds like the "Bastion" game mode that was introduced in 2017 and dropped almost instantly. It a real shame, I would love to see more PvE in WoWs. The closest you can get is the one of the Scenario missions that has shore forts and shore bombardment, and that only comes up once a month in the rotation.
@richardfld
@richardfld 2 жыл бұрын
@@themadbomber582 LOL WoW... Historically accurate... ROFL.
@112mirai
@112mirai 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardfld lmaooooo
@youraccountingprofessor5013
@youraccountingprofessor5013 2 жыл бұрын
I've been to Corregidor many times. It's one of my favorite places to visit when I'm in the Philippines. From the top of the old Spanish lighthouse, you can see Ft. Drum in the far distance. And yes, it really does look like a massive ship sailing into the bay.
@madlarkin8
@madlarkin8 2 жыл бұрын
I have some personal experience with this story as a U.S. Army War College graduate, and later, as a strategic analyst for the DOD. Though there were some flaws in the overall strategy of its usage, but Fort Drum still remains part of the core curriculum taught to students when discussing methodology of terrain employment. Ultimately logistical dilemmas occur when operating far from home, and Fort Drum is a prime example of commanders collaborating on the issue of solving a strategic problem while also taking advantage of (rather than trying to oppose) natural terrain features in order to make the most efficient usage of resources. While stopping short of calling it "brilliant" it was definitely an inspired idea, and it is constantly reiterated to U.S. officers to think outside the box when faced with defensive operations. In an era where precision weapons and massed artillery and air attack are so common, unusual tactics are necessary to defend effectively from static positions.
@sangramvj
@sangramvj 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad that you were browsing maps when you did. This was an amazing piece of history that you shared. Thanks.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Haha now here's someone who clearly watched until the end! Thanks for watching!
@sangramvj
@sangramvj 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay of course I watch your videos till the end! They are all interesting!
@mynkir-sol2150
@mynkir-sol2150 3 жыл бұрын
​@@CalumRaasay Me: Okay i watched thru to The End. What's my Prize? Calum: Another video! In all seriousness, this was a fun infobomb of history! Thank you for sharing! Side Note: This has inspired me to make a small faction in a #StarWars #RPG campaign that has a Duracrete Fleet!
@christopherruff4938
@christopherruff4938 3 жыл бұрын
On a military exchange to the Philippines, I had the opportunity to overfly Fort Drum and visit Corregidor in 1994. It was an amazing experience and could only begin to experience what the US and Filipino soldiers endured during that spirited defence.
@dsnodgrass4843
@dsnodgrass4843 3 жыл бұрын
It's an astonishing thought to have over 400 men (or even 200), and all that ammo for the guns to last 6 months, plus food and water, etc., packed into only 1000 sq. ft per deck.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
I know, not to mention they'd be unable to even get fresh air or get on deck most of the time! Must have been unbearably hot.
@drussell_
@drussell_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay No, it's because you were off by about an order of magnitude on the size, probably confusing m² with ft². The overall size of the installation is approximately 350 x 144 feet in size, or over 50,000 ft² per level before accounting for the walls, so more like 35,000 ft² of usable space *per level* , rather than 3500 ft² total. In metric, 110m x 44m = 4840 m² before walls, so a rough estimate of *3500 m²* of usable space *per level* would again be a reasonable estimate, but most *certainly not* 3500 ft² total. That's an absurd mistake in facts that should never have passed even the most cursory "smell test." Other than that one glaringly obvious mistake, though, otherwise this is a reasonably good look at this interesting installation. Thanks!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
@@drussell_ must have have read it wrong in the script! It happens 🤷‍♀️
@stevenearlsmith2595
@stevenearlsmith2595 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay “ssh it” happens!
@xiaoka
@xiaoka 3 жыл бұрын
@@drussell_ yeah I noticed that too. 3500 sqft is like a nicely sized American home.
@Yezpahr
@Yezpahr 2 жыл бұрын
20:36 That's an amazing fact. Almost incredible that the mere heat inside the fort is increasing the range of the cannons by a noticeable amount.
@henkvandervossen6616
@henkvandervossen6616 Жыл бұрын
Both THE Netherland and Denmark have artificial islands fortified to defend a capital city
@chillmonkey6782
@chillmonkey6782 Жыл бұрын
Yep. It works for small guns too. I am a shooter, and one day I was testing muzzle velocities and left my ammo laying out in the hot Texas sun for a little bit. All the rounds were too hot to touch almost, and muzzle velocities were higher than usual. Also on a cold day, I have been shooting a shotgun and experienced malfunctions because the pressure was too low to cycle the gun.
@mickberick8575
@mickberick8575 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thanks . I used to explore the tunnels under Fort Queenscliff the Queenscliff side of the heads that are the entrance to Port Phillip bay in my home state of Victoria , Aussie. Erosion had eaten away the natural sandstone next the the concrete slabs that were intended on keeping people out so that one could squirm in between to rock and cement ( very tight ) and then the oldest tunnels between the fort and pillboxes etc were an amazing explore for a teen ages 14/15 . These were cemented permanently so access to the actual fort was not possible ,but when we went on a tour ( still an operational army installation at that time ) with a media officer from the army we learnt so much and actually ended up about 5 metres from a tunnel we'd explored from the other side ,suffice to say we didn't mention that to the army liaison ! Lol I look back in wonder to a simpler time nostalgicly - Funny , it's so vivid but that was allmost 40 years ago. I'm going to subscribe - If your work is so interesting ongoing I look forward to regularly watching it . Thankyou .
@TheBengganator
@TheBengganator 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of my countrymen are oblivious to Fort Drum's existence let alone it's contribution to the war, i am fortunate enough to have seen it daily when i was young, my family owns a house in what is now Caylabne Bay from where the fort can be seen not too far away. Last i saw the fort was two months ago. Thank you for this great video. Mabuhay! Edit: Caylabne Bay can be seen on 30:28 with dock/breakwater on the left hand side.
@R3TR0J4N
@R3TR0J4N Жыл бұрын
id say a a niche subject, it was featured by Kara David from iwitness back past 10 years.
@davidwalker1610
@davidwalker1610 3 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather was part of 113th that helped take the concrete battleship back. He used to tell me stories of it, but I was young and couldn’t understand a concrete battleship. He had some interesting stories about island hopping and the war in the pacific.
@szazorkan
@szazorkan 4 ай бұрын
That's cool af
@bret9741
@bret9741 2 жыл бұрын
When I see these old forts I feel a deep attachment to the men who built and manned these structures. Millions of man hours and stories of friendships and heroism along with horrors and loss. I want to go back in time and spend time with these individuals as a visitor just passing through.
@nullfi7148
@nullfi7148 2 жыл бұрын
This is something I never would have found on my own but I'm glad it showed up in my feed. Excellent breakdown of the history of Fort Drum, you've definitely earned a new subscriber!
@alfonsosoriano171
@alfonsosoriano171 3 жыл бұрын
I have been passing this structure dozens of time since I was a child, wondering what's inside it. The ferries always pass just less than 50 meters beside it so the passengers could do sightseeing. It is majestic, huge, and solid.
@McPh1741
@McPh1741 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in The Philippines for over 5 years when my dad was stationed at Clark AB back in the 80s and never got to see Ft. Drum. Growing on Clark was pretty cool. Lots of WW2 artifact to find just by digging in the yard as a kid.
@Veldtian1
@Veldtian1 3 жыл бұрын
Ever found any 'nades?
@McPh1741
@McPh1741 3 жыл бұрын
@@Veldtian1 No, no grenades.
@overtheatlas
@overtheatlas 3 жыл бұрын
@@McPh1741 that's definitely a good thing
@klaushauschen
@klaushauschen 3 жыл бұрын
Man, wish to do some digging in Clark. Also found some bullet casings or maybe a helmet?
@McPh1741
@McPh1741 3 жыл бұрын
@@klaushauschen We'd find shell casing, some shrapnel, a friend of mine found a bayonet in his yard. I heard that by the the base post office they were cutting the jungle back and found 3 mounds of .30 cal brass they thought were just dirt mounds. I've always wanted to go back and find the time capsule my elementary school buried in 1987. I don't know if it was ever dug up before the volcano erupted in 1991.
@RockTheClive
@RockTheClive 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a massive help! Fort Drum is under the sheet even to Filipinos and the only ones who knew about this Fort's history were the Filipinos who witnessed its bombardment during the Japanese invasion. In which, in my opinion made that place a target for salvaging in the '70s as it's also a decade of mass treasure hunting in the Philippines. Thinking that there could be treasures inside, treasure hunters scoured the concrete island but instead got home with nothing lol. But it's guns and steel parts who survived the war were the ones that are taken interested next. I have discovered that place since 2017 due to a local documentary, and boy i was mesmerized when i saw that beauty. But as i searched through KZbin for appropriate and better documentaries, but there was none. A few years later, KZbin's algorithm brought me here and reminded me of that place again.. Thanks man! You just earned a sub for your discovery and efforts!
@piranhaplantX
@piranhaplantX 3 жыл бұрын
Aside from treasures, I imagine a lot of the easily found iron might have been yoinked at some poiny due to pre-nuke iron going for a premium for awhile.
@confusedreindeer1295
@confusedreindeer1295 3 жыл бұрын
Mumei
@jacopofolin6400
@jacopofolin6400 3 жыл бұрын
@@piranhaplantX Never undestud why Is Better a pre nuke iron
@DarrenHughes-Hybrid
@DarrenHughes-Hybrid 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this story. I thought I knew most of the big stories of WWII and the Philippines, but I had never heard about Fort Drum and it's a really incredible story, thank you!
@ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna
@ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else get slightly sad and feel sorry for the fort almost like it was an old packhorse when its own American creators started bombarding it? It served so well. I was yelling internally “Nooo leave him alone he’s just doing what you built him to do!”(yes the fort is sentient now)
@vladvulcan
@vladvulcan Жыл бұрын
haha
@Pahricida
@Pahricida 11 ай бұрын
I was mostly thinking about how the japanese just accepted burning to death instead of surrendering.. fighting for flags is so fkn dumb.
@jarodstrain8905
@jarodstrain8905 11 ай бұрын
​@@Pahricida The Japanese were particularly fond of this sort of thing birthday. They had realized before the end of 1942 that there was no way to win the war; they just kept fighting and dying anyway.
@kittredgeseely3542
@kittredgeseely3542 11 ай бұрын
​@jarodstrain8905 There was more honor to die in the service to the emperor. At that he was viewed as a God. To surrender meant your family would not talk to you.
@augustuslunasol10thapostle
@augustuslunasol10thapostle 5 ай бұрын
@@kittredgeseely3542whats funny is the emperor’s authority was in theory iron clad in truth they tried to put him on house arrest when he tried to surrender
@Waldherz
@Waldherz 3 жыл бұрын
As a naval nerd that also likes big things that make big booms...this is exactly what I needed :D
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Haha same! I think the 'warshipporn' subreddit is my home page at this point!
@Waldherz
@Waldherz 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay I have spent way too much time looking at this subreddit than I should have. Thanks for telling me about it :D
@Adiscretefirm
@Adiscretefirm 3 жыл бұрын
As a pyromaniac I can only dream of pumping 3000 gallons of fuel into a giant concrete box where it can't spread and setting it off from a safe distance.
@AckzaTV
@AckzaTV 3 жыл бұрын
1 battleship point blank can put it under the water line
@Waldherz
@Waldherz 3 жыл бұрын
@@AckzaTV Nope xD Unless you plan to completely eliminate the entire island its based on at the same time.
@plymouth5714
@plymouth5714 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this fort on an episode of 'Abandoned Engineering' it was fascinating to see the interior as it is today' On another episode there was a piece on another abandoned island off the coast of Japan. I think it was one of the few coal mines to be found in the Japanese islands and a multi-level town was built over it. From some positions the island has the outline shape of a large battleship, so much so that during WW2 an American submarine tried to put a salvo of torpedoes into it!
@Dwendele
@Dwendele 3 жыл бұрын
I saw "The Proper People" channel do an explore of that "battleship" island. Very Erie.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dwendele - Lake Erie? *Eerie.
@tobermory8341
@tobermory8341 3 жыл бұрын
We actually had trouble getting the local film crew to go into Fort Drum for Abandoned Engineering. There are dangerous areas within the structure but the fact that the 90-man Japanese garrison refused to surrender and were burned alive by US troops sent to recapture the Fort may also have had something to do with it. As for Hashima Island it was the combination of accommodation blocks for its workforce and the smoke coming from the pump works stack that made it look like an early 20th century battleship.
@plymouth5714
@plymouth5714 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobermory8341 Hashima! That was it, thanks for reminding me! I'm not surprised the film crew were less than enthusiastic, events like that definitely seem to leave an aura or something behind them for many years after. Did Hashima ever appear in an old series called "Life after People" about how the world would carry on after all humans vanished? I've got the series on DVD but haven't watched it for a good few years now. I seem to remember a Japanese abandoned town on an island with the steepest concrete steps I'd ever seen! Must have been about a 60 degree slope going up and down, not a good place to trip!
@steaton165
@steaton165 3 жыл бұрын
Music
@eddiecharles6457
@eddiecharles6457 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I’ve seen about Fort Drum. I’ve seen this formidable fort from at a distance from Corregidor over 40 years ago and you have somehow managed to convince me to go back for a closer look.
@DavidGarcia-zu3hl
@DavidGarcia-zu3hl Жыл бұрын
It is definitely one of the most interesting things you can see when flying around Manila Bay. Was with the very last Marine squadron of Sea Stallions in 90-91 at Cubi Pt (via Okinawa). It was really cool to check out Ft Drum when we had extra time or on the way back from the embassy. Great flying in the P.I., miss it greatly, wonderful memories.
@kennethedwards814
@kennethedwards814 3 жыл бұрын
Calum, thank you for bringing this history to light for those of us who never heard about Fort Drum.
@donpadua6191
@donpadua6191 3 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino, this honestly is amazing. Corregidor Island is very well known to us, but the surrounding islands weren't so hearing about the story of this 'Concrete Battleship' is awesome.
@thanosztitan
@thanosztitan 2 жыл бұрын
Same thanks for featuring this!
@gawbagecan
@gawbagecan 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't fit the narrative of American victoriousness.
@cattraknoff
@cattraknoff 2 жыл бұрын
@@gawbagecan I think the story is pretty pro-America. America lost the phillippines but they made Japan pay for it, and Fort Drum punched hardest for its small size.
@LoveMyPeople04
@LoveMyPeople04 Жыл бұрын
@@gawbagecan 🤡
@R3TR0J4N
@R3TR0J4N Жыл бұрын
Kara David form I-WItness featured EL Fraile, back last 10 years.
@mtacoustic1
@mtacoustic1 3 жыл бұрын
The concrete battleship has been fascinating to me for years. The closest I ever got to it was as a tourist on Corregidor in 2002. Great little documentary!
@buick1955
@buick1955 3 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of this before . You truly uncovered forgotten history . Very very well done !! Thank you .
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :D
@imdeplorable2241
@imdeplorable2241 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. Thanks to you both.
@vincentwade1
@vincentwade1 Жыл бұрын
This has been the most enjoyable and informative video I have ever seen concerning Ft Drum. Thank you so much for the effort, and the internal pics. I have searched and searched for views of the inside, and they are the best and most recent. Good Job!
@neilboncato2747
@neilboncato2747 Жыл бұрын
the engineering is about 300 years ahead of it's time. literally unsinkable battleship
@curezilla
@curezilla 3 жыл бұрын
I had heard a few things about this "fort" in the past. I have to say, the history and information you covered here was far more than anything I had found when I read about it years ago! Great job! Definitely earned a sub, and I'll be binge watching your content now!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Waldherz
@Waldherz 3 жыл бұрын
I now watched the video for a second time (first time was mostly listening while being at work). The editing is excellent. E.g. the little inch/cm conversions. Same for the whole presentation and quality of the pictures and markings on them to show what you are talking about. Cant wait for the next video!
@c3aloha
@c3aloha 3 жыл бұрын
Nice use of Marine Corps maps! Sad story of 4th Marines who had been evacuated from Shanghai to the PI. They burned their colors and the CO lamented he was the only Marine that ever surrendered. To this day the 4th Marines HQ is located overseas in Okinawa - the myth being they can never return to the US having lost their colors. Had a conversation with a lady who was born on Corregidor when her father was a coast artillery officer pre-WW2. Fascinating.
@TheTruthKiwi
@TheTruthKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an amazing story. Can't imagine what it was like being in there when it was being relentlessly battered and what a grizzly and yet fitting end of its days of action. Very interesting.
@winstonvillaflor7050
@winstonvillaflor7050 11 ай бұрын
I'm from Tacloban City, Leyte Island, Philippines. In the mid 1990's I would ride a passenger ferry boat from tacloban to manila. On the entrance to Manila Bay, you can see Fort Drum on your left side. It's a massive concrete structure with it's massive guns guarding the entrance to Manila Bay. The strategic location of the Philippines in southeast asia is the reason why the Philippines is rich in military history. Most Filipinos don't know about it's existence. Powerful invaders have always wanted to control the Philippines: Spanish, British, Americans, Japanese, and now it's Red China who encroaching in our territory. Same dog, different collar.
@ronbusby4596
@ronbusby4596 3 жыл бұрын
Finally an unsinkable battle ship. I never knew. Thank you.
@crookedtool
@crookedtool 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, well it's not floating. That helps.
@nomnomstirn1532
@nomnomstirn1532 3 жыл бұрын
@Samuel G lol The Japanese were looking for the wrong things when trying to make an unsinkable ship. Who said a ship had to float 😂
@bazzatheblue
@bazzatheblue 3 жыл бұрын
The USS Phoenix that bombarded the fort would eventually become the General Belgrano that was sunk in the Falklands War if I'm not mistaken.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right! Was going to mention that but cut it for time.
@wildonemeister
@wildonemeister 3 жыл бұрын
When you dive deep into a topic you really go far as to do things properly. Excellent quality content!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@budgiefriend
@budgiefriend 3 жыл бұрын
Except for spell checking.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
@@budgiefriend at this point it’s part of my brand
@budgiefriend
@budgiefriend 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay Hardly something to be proud of, when spell check exist. You do you of course. Only slight skin off my nose😊 your content is top notch in Any case.
@cgRui34
@cgRui34 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a very detailed video on Fort Drum/El Frayle. I've always wondered on what kind of engineering feats were implemented to create such a man-made island fortress in that time period.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@scramblerbricks7293
@scramblerbricks7293 9 ай бұрын
So you're telling me this fortress kept getting beaten like a drum but kept on rocking? Now that's metal.
@peterdimblad4832
@peterdimblad4832 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Thank you 🙏 I grew up in the Philippines in the ‘70’s and passed Fort Drum many times on our way into and away from Manila on various sailboats. I was always told that Fort Drum never fired a shot as the Japanese didn’t invade by sea but came over land so this was really eye opening. I wish I had done more research when there…
@celestinovelarde9601
@celestinovelarde9601 Жыл бұрын
Ibalik sà dati, tourism pop!
@Sombody123
@Sombody123 3 жыл бұрын
What a rare and utterly fascinating piece of history. You almost never see coastal fortifications do this well. It always frustrates me when there's some unique military marvel that simply never sees any action or is put out of commission by unfortunate events. Not the case here!
@JohnSmith-zv8km
@JohnSmith-zv8km 3 жыл бұрын
A really interesting and well presented story.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciated
@simonkevnorris
@simonkevnorris 3 жыл бұрын
I agree it was a fascinating story. I can only imagine how hard life was for the US forces that defended the rock and even worse their life in captivity. Thoughts must go out to the Japanese who died in the firestorm.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonkevnorris reading accounts of the Bataan peninsula is tough stuff. Quite the struggle.
@aidansouthall1
@aidansouthall1 Жыл бұрын
Currently deployed and in the Philippines and watching this video while in sight of fort drum rn. I was so curious so I looked up “big battleship structure in Philippines” this video definitely answered tht question.
@mumblbeebee6546
@mumblbeebee6546 2 жыл бұрын
The advantage of YT not showing me your videos in my list for months is that I can now binge-watch them :-)
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 2 жыл бұрын
haha not that many to bing to be honest!
@RogerRabbit45
@RogerRabbit45 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the concrete battleship but only from a distance when I went to see Corregidor Island several times. But even from a distance, I find it very very fascinating. Somehow, I fell in love with Corregidor island on my first visit.. I plan to go back there after the pandemic. Will try to see the concrete battleship closer next time if given the opportunity. For those who are into WW2 history, I recommend Corregidor Island. Incidentally, I never expected that one of the guns in Corregidor Island to be that huge (and I can only imagine the size of the guns in a battleship or in that concrete battleship).. There’s a hotel in Corregidor Island (but don’t expect much). I feel strange when I’m in the island… probably due to the silence and its history.. This is the best I encountered so far about Fort Drum or USS "No-Go". Amazing work! Thank you for sharing this history.
@CanuckinAsia
@CanuckinAsia 3 жыл бұрын
I own the book you referenced and I'm well read on all the forts in Manila Bay. Your documentary was the best I've seen. Good work.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@dylandy41
@dylandy41 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay well we really done nothing we are tend to be forgotten for www mainly focus to the main countries that fight
@protorhinocerator142
@protorhinocerator142 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the coolest things ever. The fact that it held out so very long is amazing. Its only real limitation was drinking water. Keep that info in mind when designing the next one.
@russellgardner5126
@russellgardner5126 2 жыл бұрын
@randomguy8196 More armor, better armor, more anti aircraft, better anti aircraft, better everything!
@brocklaughrey3212
@brocklaughrey3212 2 жыл бұрын
Well I think a micro thermal nuke would just turn it into dust and a ball of plasma instantly without effort and there wouldn’t even be a fight
@imthemistermaster
@imthemistermaster 2 жыл бұрын
@randomguy9777 that's what the Japanese thought for all those months I'm sure...
@hashbrownz1999
@hashbrownz1999 Жыл бұрын
As awesome as forts are, bunker busters are even more incredible.
@nick_simpson
@nick_simpson 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Calum! Subscribed - you should definitely keep going with interesting industrial history videos while in your van... Absolutely love stories about stuff like this and you clearly have a knack for telling them very well!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Would love to do a van tour at some point
@Gera-N-Silas
@Gera-N-Silas 11 ай бұрын
Me and my wife really enjoy your videos. It’s obvious that you put a great deal of effort into making them and they all seem to be very historically accurate. The topics you focus on are always interesting and make for great discussion as well as entertainment. Keep up the great work and thanks for the non- biased truthfulness of the articles and videos! Thanks for sharing.
@Chill_Mode_JD
@Chill_Mode_JD 3 жыл бұрын
I admire the passion you put into these videos, keep them coming!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciated!
@johnshaft5613
@johnshaft5613 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've long been fascinated by coastal fortifications, and Fort Drum is among the coolest of the lot.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
It really is!
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for continuing to produce such high quality content. I knew the general story of Fort Drum, but had never heard it in it's entirety, or told so well.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Always a pleasure exploring a niche subject!
@oszy6069
@oszy6069 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I am from PH and I never heard of fort drum until now.
@joecold8200
@joecold8200 2 жыл бұрын
In 1843, when my ship was passing Fort Drum, my crew and I looked in awe at the massive armaments'. We were one of the first men to defend the island. Was quite amazing.
@sixthcairn
@sixthcairn 2 жыл бұрын
1843 👀
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane Жыл бұрын
1843 - That's some serious seniority!
@ZingaraJoe
@ZingaraJoe 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I recall that I was engineer on 'your ship', can't recall if it was sail or steam but whatever 1843, 1943 the fort will still be there in 2043.
@Ugh-Fudge_Bwana
@Ugh-Fudge_Bwana 10 ай бұрын
Duncan MacLeod? Is that you?
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 3 жыл бұрын
These “pop-up” type Guns were also used in several forts along the US west coast - including Ft. Stevens , near Astoria, Oregon. If you make it to the US PNW at some point, you should absolutely check out Ft Stevens, Ft. Columbia (which even has old officers quarters available for overnight stays!), and maybe Ft Flagler and Ft Worden, the latter two being on Puget Sound. All of these were constructed in the same era, for the same purpose. FT Drum would have absolutely been the “Crown Jewel” among these forts, in terms of its abilities however.
@jacobmccandles1767
@jacobmccandles1767 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'd love to visit the PNW, but I'm allergic to patchouli and tyranny.
@ianhanks5053
@ianhanks5053 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmccandles1767 Thanks for your two cents. Given your attitude, please do stay away. We'll do just fine without you.
@paulross2561
@paulross2561 3 жыл бұрын
Fort Casey on Whidbey Island has to off the disappearing gun mounts that were brought back from the Philippines after WW2, they were recovered from the fort on Grande Island in Subic Bay
@jacobmccandles1767
@jacobmccandles1767 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianhanks5053 I see liberal tolerance is at its best. It was a joke, dingleberry. Just chuckle a bit and move on. Or not. No need to make it personal.
@jacobmccandles1767
@jacobmccandles1767 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulross2561 ahhh, Whidbey: home of the most memorable Sky Writing in recent history.
@edwardweeden2834
@edwardweeden2834 3 жыл бұрын
Well Done Callum! In 1978/79/80 whenever my aircraft carrier (USS Ranger) called in to Naval Base Subic Bay north of Manila, our helicopters flew many a practice flight over the Bataan Peninsula, Corregidor and Fort Drum. Always wondered about Drum, this is a fascinating historical video! I still remember being on one of these flights - in my flight suit complete with gun harness, sitting in the doorway of the helo with my legs dangling out and looking out at Drum as we passed nearby. We were not given permission to land by the local ATC, so we landed in Corregidor instead. A very historical area, full of both American and Japanese tourists. P.S.: the nickname 'USS NO GO' has an ironic twist to it. Spanish is a widely spoken language in the Philippines (they were a Spanish colony for roughly 300 years). The phrase 'no go' in Spanish is 'no va' - very similar to the name of a very popular Chevy car in the States, and the astronomical term as well. That's why the Chevy 'Nova' did not sell very well in Spanish speaking countries. Who wants to buy a car that bears the title 'no go'!!!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
What a great story! Must be a hell of an experience serving on a carrier!
@TwazkemUSAbi
@TwazkemUSAbi 3 жыл бұрын
Andele Brandito!
@youraccountingprofessor5013
@youraccountingprofessor5013 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, I was on the Ranger from 81-82. Small world.
@dillonrinehart8319
@dillonrinehart8319 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone does more then a 5 minute video on Fort Drum!
@NexGen-3D
@NexGen-3D 2 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing story, much appreciate you sharing this, I had never actually heard of Fort Drum or this section of WWII, what a marvel of pure strength.
@johncarey9149
@johncarey9149 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly I'm too late to the party, but are you aware of the Mulberry harbours? They share the same heavy reinforced concrete construction as Fort Drum, whose purpose puzzled the German army prior to the D Day landings. My interest in them stems from working for the company responsible for the design of these structures, as it was the first company I worked for after leaving school in the late 70's. I'm sure it's all old news to you, but I thought it was worth a mention ... 😊 Many thanks, and keep up the good work.
@zephyer-gp1ju
@zephyer-gp1ju 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that. National Guard troops from my home state of New Mexico were in the P.I when the war started. Many never got home again. I had read some on Fort Drum but, not a lot. Found it amusing that ships sometimes coming into the bay would report a Navy ship making five knots heading out of the bay.
@namename5917
@namename5917 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been to Corregidor with the Navy commemorating the 50th anniversary of the conflict, but never heard the story of THIS Fort Drum, which I thought was in NY. Amazing history; thank you!
@bender7565
@bender7565 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Tons of military history in the PI and as familiar as I am with Ft Drum you had many 'new' pics and floorplans. I had to stop and go back many times for a closer look. High praise, cheers.
@jaridkeen123
@jaridkeen123 2 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing documentary that you made, Great Work! Make Another Please!
@wmden1
@wmden1 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, very interesting, and well done. I had never heard of Fort Drum before this video. The way it kept its garrison safe and aided the defense of the other forts was inspiring. It is very sad, and still upsetting that so many, Fort Drum and all others, perished in the p.o.w. camps at the hands of the Japanese.
@sonofeloah
@sonofeloah 3 жыл бұрын
During the american civil war, there was a ship, I think it was an iron clad, that was sunk into a river to serve as a fort to protect the river from enemy use. I really need to look it up again because I was very impressed with how it did very well and meet the needs very well.
@theq4602
@theq4602 9 ай бұрын
you may be thinking of the CSS savanah, similar story but not exactly the same
@michaelmartinez1345
@michaelmartinez1345 3 жыл бұрын
What a great episode!!! The narrator gives an impressive account of the history that was saved about this interesting guard point, into the entrance of Manilla Bay.... This reminds me of Alcatraz Island in the San Francisco Bay... A Great history lesson was given here !!!
@richardstephens3327
@richardstephens3327 3 жыл бұрын
I used to know several, members of the 200th Coastal Artillery. One of them had bin stationed on the fort for a time. The unit was primarily manning the defenses on the northern part of the bay but a few of them were rotated over early on in the battle. It always amazed me that a bunch of cowboys from NM were sent out there and became part of that last line of defense.
@bobbys4327
@bobbys4327 2 жыл бұрын
sent out there and abandoned.
@MoreEvilThanYahweh
@MoreEvilThanYahweh Жыл бұрын
@@bobbys4327 That's pretty much what gloryhound Doug did to the entire USAFFE
@RicardoSanchez-es5wl
@RicardoSanchez-es5wl Жыл бұрын
Say what you want about them, but Americans have done some unbelievably incredible things. This structure was simply fascinating.
@vodnikdubs1724
@vodnikdubs1724 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more vids on other abandoned military oddities like this!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to make more!
@theafro
@theafro 3 жыл бұрын
You did it again! another fine production, thanks Calum!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Leon! Much appreciated.
@BBBILLY86
@BBBILLY86 3 жыл бұрын
I've lived near the Watervliet Arsenal my whole life. My dad also worked there for some years when the M1A1Abrams barrel was being developed with West Germany. Neat driving by and seeing all the Naval barrels and smaller cannons out front on display.
@Roblstar
@Roblstar 3 жыл бұрын
I was fascinated by fort drum when I first became aware of it. I've read the history before. However you really made a fantastic comprehensive job of it's history in this vid! Well done ;)
@vincentrogers8586
@vincentrogers8586 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Really good. Thanks for making it.
@edh5043
@edh5043 Жыл бұрын
First class documentary. Well researched, professionally compiled with an excellent commentary and, best of all, no soundtrack score. Hurrah!
@steaton165
@steaton165 3 жыл бұрын
I landed on Corregidor & the cement battle ship w/ logs sticking out of the cement boat to make it look like a REAL battleship! Flew INTO the Taal Volcane then over the Bataan death march & up to Bagiio. This was in 1973.I thanked the Captian for letting me ( an E4 Crew Chief to get stick time.Thanks again Capt. Semper Fi.
@pinoyparin4414
@pinoyparin4414 3 жыл бұрын
Bataan death march is an event, not a location. The location is the big cross where the US and Philippine forces made their final stand on top of the mountain in Bataan.
@Welcome2TheInternet
@Welcome2TheInternet 2 жыл бұрын
​@@pinoyparin4414 IiT iS aN EvEnT nOt a LoCaTiOn :D LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
@ronkrueger-capt_koron6112
@ronkrueger-capt_koron6112 3 жыл бұрын
I spent 4 years stationed in the Philippines at 3 different Air Force bases, and was married to a Philippine woman. Her and I took a ship from Manilla to her home province and went right passed Ft Drum. Seeing it in real life is different than just reading about it. I did get some pictures, but since it was so long ago, I have no idea where they went.
@CatChase957
@CatChase957 3 жыл бұрын
There is an actual concrete ship that has been beached for over 100 years off the shore of DuPont Washington. There isn't much information about it. I read somewhere that it got lose from the dock and floated to the sand bar, where it then beached itself, and when the tide lowered, it cracked in two. Which then cemented its fate to be stuck there forever
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve actually heard of that! Concrete barges and ships were surprisingly common (well, not that common maybe) as an experimental hull type back in the day. I actually visited a concrete yacht once that stopped by the island here! Now a PYKRETE hull, there's something special!
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 3 жыл бұрын
There was a concrete ship used as a 'pirate' radio station in the US too - probably in the 60s.
@granddukeofmecklenburg
@granddukeofmecklenburg 3 жыл бұрын
Galveston has a half sunk concrete ship off seawolf park...most of the hull is above the waterline
@robertheinkel6225
@robertheinkel6225 3 жыл бұрын
During WW II, concrete hulled ships were routinely as cargo vessels. Cheap to build and if you lost one, not a big loss.
@kell4907
@kell4907 Жыл бұрын
Amazing story of this island built just after the turn of the century ended being undefeated during so many days of combat.
@jimmyguy428
@jimmyguy428 3 жыл бұрын
A well told story of history! Thank you for all your hard work as I'm sure there was a lot of research done to put this all together. I can't wait to dive into a few more of your videos, and even if they're only half as good as this one, they are still going to be epic! I subbed!
@iworkout6912
@iworkout6912 3 жыл бұрын
As you probably know, the US Army has a Fort Drum in upstate NY near Lake Ontario. Its an active military base housing the US Army's 10 th mountain division. I always wondered why it was named that, and I found it was named after General Hugh Drum.
@BenCadorette
@BenCadorette 3 жыл бұрын
That concrete block sure did make some foreman somewhere proud. “You see that boat? Not a boat. Fortress. I built that. “
@sullentamp9140
@sullentamp9140 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t plan on watching the whole thing, but I was glued to my screen, what a fantastic fortification and history ❤️
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 11 ай бұрын
great video, my father was in the area during WWII....and was in the Coast Artillery Corp.....I am sure he knew of this fort....
@KoolKman
@KoolKman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that informative video on this mostly 'overlooked' piece of history...I had the chance to stay on Corregidor island a few years go for a few days and whilst on the tour of the island forts the tour-guide stopped atop of a hill overlooking the bay and pointed out and said "Do you see all those ships out there..which one do you think is NOT a real ship" it was hard to guess as they all looked like ships "So can you guess" she said, "well, if look close enough you'll see the one that hasn't moved and has no masts is actually Fort Drum!" ..and thus began my fascination with this mysterious embattled piece of WW2 history, I have wanted to go that island fort since then and hope to one day.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Great story! I’d love to visit one day.
@TheDiverat
@TheDiverat 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid I lived in the Philippines for about 5 years and did a lot of diving around Manila bay the fort is all but forgotten
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
I was wonder while I made this how much there must be in Manila bay- I’m sure parts of the d barracks and cage mast are down there near the fort somewhere!
@TheDiverat
@TheDiverat 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay Most of the diving is organised out of Subic and Olongapo, There is some amazing wreck diving from an old Spanish/ American war wreck Japanese and US freighters and the USS New York along with a few planes. I don’t think any one dives around Fort Drum
@redsmith9953
@redsmith9953 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, good details and narration, thanks!
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Ph33nxOne
@Ph33nxOne 2 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon your channel and it's amazing, I can't believe I've not been subscribed before this but I am now. Keep up the amazing job. You deserve a million subscribers in my opinion.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching (and subscribing!)
@virus5600
@virus5600 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, hearing Fort Drum's valiant defense really is an underappreciated topic here in Ph. It wasn't even mentioned in any history books in assisting Corregidor Island. That's why I'm really glad that it's been given recognition in KZbin by people like you.
@larrymoran_THE_CODGER
@larrymoran_THE_CODGER 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Calum, the host of this video. The details and history that he provided are excellent. Starting with the European colonization of the Philippines, straight through to the final moments of Fort Drum as a military installation is a great history lesson in of itself. Only recently, did I mention to a friend that I doubt many Americans know that the Philippines were a colony of the U.S. for a number of decades. Well done Calum 👍👍😊 I look forward to more of your videos. You obviously have a gift for examining things in great detail, and doing a great job in sharing those details with others. Definitely the talents of a natural born story teller. Safe travels and stay well.😊
@compassbrian
@compassbrian 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you mention panama canal and ppl go “oh pcb was great on spring vacay”
@Luis-be9mi
@Luis-be9mi 3 жыл бұрын
If that water plant was operable or upgraded, those defenders in Fort Drum would have been a big middle finger to the Japanese until the allied forces came back and relieved them.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly makes for an interesting “what if” scenario
@johnpaulvanson5170
@johnpaulvanson5170 3 жыл бұрын
Much fun as it is to imagine that situation, the Japanese during WWII had no compunction against using the same techniques the Americans used at the end of the war to neutralize it or worse. They'd have stormed it with a landing force, welded anything metal shut or in place and poured fuel down any vents they could find. The defenders only had so many rounds and had lost most of their infantry scale defenses from the bombardments, so this would have only been a short matter of time once covering fire from the other forts was gone.
@skybattler2624
@skybattler2624 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpaulvanson5170 The main difference is that Fort Drum has 280 soldiers in it during its defense, while when the Americans plan to recapture it, there was only 68. The fort was attempted to be boarded one time but all the landing boats was immediately sank one time because the 16 inch guns manages to catch them in time. The Japanese Soldiers who were assigned to that fort didn't have the luxury and only resorted to small arms fire. The only way to neutralize it was to bring Yamato or Musashi and sail it straight to Manila Bay to take the guns out, and doing so has major implications in the war effort of Japan (because of interservice rivalry, the Arny and Navy will fight to death on how to capture this damn American stronghold, and letting the Navy do what should've been an Army job is a huge blow to the Army's ego, which will result into the two branches to compete on who gets it out first before proceeding to the Solomons and Guadalcanal. The time brought by Bataan and Corregidor are critical in actually mounting an okayish defense on the East Indies. Had Fort Drum still fought for like 2 months more, the Allies would've organized their navies on the Dutch Indies, and the Japanese Navy will be forced to use the Kido Butai and Yamato on it, thereby delaying Midway. A decisive Naval engagement would've happened then and there.
@jgw9990
@jgw9990 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpaulvanson5170 The guns were disabled when Japanese occupied making that landing possible and the garrison was 1/3 the size. Japan doing what the US did would cost them ruinous casualties assuming it even succeeded. Meanwhile every day hold-up buys other Allied locations more time to fortify.
@decentish8546
@decentish8546 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpaulvanson5170 doubt it. The Japanese had no way to defend themselves because the 6 and 14 inch guns were inoperable. The Americans wouldn’t have that problem. They may have eventually retaken it but there’s a decent chance they wouldn’t have bothered wasting the men and ships to do it.
@f-22r
@f-22r 3 жыл бұрын
This really needs to be an epic film.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the Philippines are a very overlooked area of the war in general.
@DraftySatyr
@DraftySatyr 3 жыл бұрын
@@CalumRaasay I agree. Not sure if it's because the island-hopping was in some way more 'glamorous', but the battle(s) for the Philippines do seem under-represented in popular culture.
@kentslocum
@kentslocum 11 ай бұрын
I have to wonder what would have happened if more of the US naval fleet was stationed in the Philippines and less of it was caught unprepared at Pearl Harbor. Still, I'm glad that Fort Drum taught us two important lessons: First, do a good job the first time. Second, always pack fresh water.
@frenchroast1355
@frenchroast1355 3 жыл бұрын
As a amateur military history enthusiast, I am embarrassed that I never heard of Ft. Drum, especially its epic defense. Fascinating!
@TaylerKnox
@TaylerKnox 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing role it played.
@nicolek4076
@nicolek4076 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Calum, for this interesting account of a forgotten place in the history of WW2.
@CalumRaasay
@CalumRaasay 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
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