🎥 Cam Test Episode 7: Testing Cammotion Cams on Stathi’s Build! 🎥

[@logangibson6624]

I cam test I think would be super interesting is the Summit 8733R1 The specs are .550”/.550” lift 218/230 @.050” 105+3 LSA I think having such a tight LSA would make for a really interesting test to compare to the cam motion cams and specifically the truck Norris cam

[@Smoked_5L]

Agreed I definitely want to see what happens at the extreme ends of the LSA spectrum

[@rovarister]

Nice work Stathi, we appreciate your time and efforts 👍

[@kiqnkf]

Thank You for all these videos. I LOVE watching them.

[@RonaldLewis-py6yt]

Thanks for sharing your camshaft profile not everyone is building a Dragstrip car and want to make all the torque and horsepower we can on the street or my 2500 4wd with a 2400 convertor!

[@chriswise1232]

I'd love to see the little chopper vs the summit ghost cam 8715

[@mannbat]

Would you mind explaining a bit more in your next vid regarding pressure and why it matters (or how it impacts) the stall coverter? I have a 6 speed manual LS1 (VY), so when I put in a cam (Crow 1249) I didn't have to worry about any of this stall coverter stuff. Just curious in the technical reasons why stall converters are such a big deal with the medium to large cams. Cheers for the great content, these comparison vids are awesome.

[@Smoked_5L]

Yess!!! 108 LSA lil choppa sounds tough!!! Can't wait for next week those custom cams look sick!

[@leighvandyke6668]

So good to see these results 🙌, the chopper is for me

[@IndependentMotorsports]

It's one of the top dogs in its own right

[@claytonsmoothy314]

Appreciate this series mate,can you tell us what the exhaust systems is on the stato, sound's bloody unreal

[@bigal878]

Great job Stathi 👍🇦🇺

[@barrymartin3813]

Looking forward to the next episode,

[@cameronallan3771]

Loveing the video can you do some reviews on some big cams like 280/290 kinda stuff

[@dangdang3970]

Its only taken 5 years of taking my ute to you guys but i think you just found the cam that would suit my vz 👌🤠🤘 love this series stathi and team👍

[@IndependentMotorsports]

Whichever one you go for mate you're going to love it. Say the word and we'll get you booked in 😊

[@jamestoby2552]

I like what the US Truck Cams try to do, as stated in the vid, without a converter / in a manual, low to mid range and average power is better for the street. A factory LS1 Holden is no lightweight either. However, the issue with shelf truck cams is that market has particular thoughts on valve spring changes. So, they design the cams with lower lift to support this. My understanding is that higher lift is basically better for power. If you look at TSP, they did some tests of the same spec cam but with high and low lift. High lift was better everywhere. Although, most truck cam buyers indicate they're comfortable with the trade off to be able to continue to use conventional valve springs. For my needs on the street, in a manual LS1, I prefer the a cam with less duration (intake especially) but with lots of lift. Others most likely would disagree :)

[@BigSteve619]

@@jamestoby2552 sounds like all of the Lingenfelter cams.

[@claytonsmoothy314]

Holdner tested 2 version's of the truck Norris cam, 1 design for stock springs the other needs aftermarket springs.from memory there was no difference between them on the dyno

[@jamestoby2552]

​@@claytonsmoothy314What were the specs of the actual cams? TSP did a direct test between two of their own cams, one rated for.550 lift (to work with standard style Springs), one rated for.600 lift. The .600 lift was stronger everywhere. There's copies of the dyno sheets online (KZbin removes comments that link to outside sources). Are you saying that you believe that running .600 lift would make no difference over .550 lift?

[@claytonsmoothy314]

@@jamestoby2552 both cams were BTR truck Norris cam's.the normal truck Norris required aftermarket springs,the 2nd version is called truck Norris NSR(NO SPRINGS REQUIRED) the difference was 7 HP . I just re watched the video. Just search Richard holdener truck Norris NSR cam if you want to watch it I don't know how to share videos 👍

[@jamestoby2552]

@@claytonsmoothy314 Ah, so there was a power difference between the two. That makes more sense. 7 rwhp isn't nothing in the cam stakes. It's a similar difference between a lot of the cams in the tests on this channel. However, that's different to what I was talking about. That's running basically stock lift (under .500) vs still quite conservative lift (.550) that the truck cam market seems to demand. I was talking about performance oriented cams retaining conservative lift, vs running higher lift. So, let's say .600 and over. There's going to be a power difference. I don't think we can ignore that if you look at the non truck cams tested in these videos, the majority also favour high lift. I found the TSP comparison so interesting because they compared the same spec cams from their shelf range that cost the same money but one has high lift the other low lift. They can sell you either, and indeed sell more low lift versions because of the truck crowd, but found that the high lift makes more power everywhere. They gain nothing from faking that information.

[@b_hall]

Btr truck norris, cam motion lil lope, tsp chopacabra. They all make within 5 hp of each other.

[@FORMULA_376]

Please do the Summit 8715 ghost cam

[@RonaldLewis-py6yt]

Yes i subbed!!

[@maccathirtythree]

Been running my own design Comp grind 215/223 .600"+ @111+3 in an M6 since 2010 - it has awesome streetability...

[@lachiegrant4237]

I think after you’ve done all of these smaller daily driven style cams. I think you should go back through each brand and see what there maximum effort cams are like in power and comparison

[@McDonnell87]

I'd love to see the lil lope with a fast manifold, 102mm throttle body and a set of ported heads for flow in the top end

[@IndependentMotorsports]

Something to try out.

[@ibym7834]

Loving the series but is a btr stage 4 cam is the biggest and lumpiest cam you can put in a ls1 asking for a mate 😂?

[@IndependentMotorsports]

BTR do have bigger but bigger isn't always better

[@jimispoto8438]

Educate me, if both cams are better at 2000rpm than the baseline, why would you “need” a converter? I understand that it would be better/faster even with a stock cam. But I’m a little lost

[@IndependentMotorsports]

To be able to tune the engine at idle in gear. Otherwise it will push and try and drive away

[@Mosesk1988]

Bigger is always better haha.

[@robirvine2922]

So Crowcam 1212 is still the winner 😅

[@holdenholden8945]

108+3 means?

[@BigSteve619]

Lobe Separation Angle...LSA. +3 is the advance ground into the cam.

[@nathanc7800]

Another cracka! Im chasing a really torquey (lowdown) cam for my manual ls1 commodore. Would you pick the Lil Lope or the Truck Norris? Thanks Stathi

[@IndependentMotorsports]

Manual LS1 can't go wrong with the truck Norris but the lil lop is also a very good candidate too, It has really good street manners.