Camberwell Station: It's Abandoned!

Ruins of South London.
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[@Richardincancale]

I couldn’t afford a proper holiday so I took a day pass for South London! Sad but true!

[@markiangooley]

I was bored in Baltimore once and visited every station on the Metro (about half is underground, the rest at grade or elevated). I was still bored but in a different way!

[@depmil1]

Did that include the treasures of Tooting Common?

[@eugenemurray2940]

South London is... A foreign country

[@eugenemurray2940]

@@depmil1 Tuten Camuhn

[@Richardincancale]

Actually I was inspired by the Peter Sellers recording - Bal-ham - Gateway to the South!

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

Been working the bus at Camberwells two bus garages for 10 years and nobody has mentioned the 'old station' building is opposite the bus garage entrance. But then again, its been closed for 106 years.

[@MercenaryPen]

not all that many people old enough to remember when it was a station then

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

Lol I used to go to the school directly behind the train tracks and I never knew there was a closed station there. The more you know

[@frglee]

That was a little 'Camberwell Beauty'. Thank you! (A magnificent large brown,blue and yellow butterfly first found in the (then rural) area in 1748 in Coldharbour Lane, Camberwell, possibly coming over from Scandinavia on timber boats to the Thames.)

[@clickrick]

"..like you couldn't afford a proper holiday..." That made Oi chuckle, that did!

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Reminds me of the story of the formerly abandoned station of Court Street in Brooklyn: It opened in April 1936, initially it was built as a terminus for the HH Fulton Street local service that would go all the way to Euclid Ave along the Brooklyn/Queens border. However, this service never happened. Instead, it served for the HH Court Street Shuttle branch service to Hoyt-Schermerhorn. Because Downtown Brooklyn already had so many stations, not to mention Hoyt-Schermerhorn station was only three blocks away, Court Street didn't see much traffic and thus it was abandoned in June 1946, over a decade later. After it closed, it was used as a filmset for movies like Guilty Bystander, The FBI Story, and The Taking of Pelham One Two Three. But in 1976 in celebration of the US Bicentennial, it was decided to turn the station into the NY Transit Museum. Originally the plan was it'd be a temporary thing running from the Fourth of July to September 7. But because it was so popular, they made it permanent. They even ran nostalgia trips using old rolling stock (which they still do today). Yes, unlike the London Transport Museum, the NY Transit Museum is legitimately in a station. And they use these platforms to display the old rolling stock (with the doors always open; this makes the station count as still functioning as they run trains in and out)

[@peebee143]

No way to treat an historically important structure. My town (St. Neots) has a link to Camberwell. We used to have a paper mill in the town by the name of Samuel Jones & Co. They used to be based in Camberwell; Their symbol? A butterfly; The Camberwell Beauty. Proudly displayed on the exterior of their buildings and on their literature. Their claim to fame? The invention of ready-pasted wallpaper...Remember that stuff??

[@jacobsmith385]

One major argument for reopening one of the stations betweeen Elephant and Loughborough junction is that that line runs right through the middle of an enormous area of south london not served by tube or rail. Between the northern line under the a3, Bermondsey jubilee, Canada Water, new cross nunhead- Denmark hill and back to Brixton and Stockwell. Within that massive area there isn’t a single station

[@johannayaffe2647]

Brixton and Stockwell are on the Victoria

[@mbak7801]

I think you will find that London is massively over served with railways/public transport as it is. One of the vaccination centres near where I lived, well just over 20 miles away would have involved a 5 hour train journey.

[@jacobsmith385]

@@mbak7801 it’s not over served just where you are is under served. That’s a different issue.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

Yeah South of the Elphant and Castle that whole Walworth road/Camberwell/Old Kent Road area is horrendously served by trains the worst thing is the TFL are looking at cutting certain routes in that area which would compound the issue. Fortunately for me I live in Peckham which for South London has great transport links but overall that area is pretty bad

[@jamesbutler6253]

"If you've ever travelled by train in South London, like say, you couldn't afford a proper holiday or something" Another comedy gem.

[@MrBillmcminn]

Camberwell has been named as a potential for a Bakerloo station on various proposals for southern extension going back to 1913. If the latest proposal gets built and Camberwell gets it tube station it should have a surface entrance inspired by the Stanley Heaps surface buildings at Maida Vale and Kilburn Park

[@ChilternTransportProductions]

Probably more likely to continue along the Old Kent Road to New Cross instead, that seems to be the favoured routing

[@GUNNERS_GOAT]

Even got on the tube map

[@samskidoodle4768]

Well, this is truly bizarre. I was travelling on the penultimate southbound Thameslink train this evening when I looked out of the window and glimpsed the Camberwell Station Road sign. I'd never heard of Camberwell station... I was sufficiently intrigued to Google and then lo, your video appeared. Algorithms can be uncanny but this was spooky. In other news, the less-than snowy Snopake sign at Loughborough Jct is looking decidedly grubby these days but it cheers me to see it's still there (not least because my late pa always referred to Tippex as Snopake).

[@a11oge]

Ah, Snopake. Such a useful item to have in your desk draw.

[@michaelcampin1464]

Your dead right about the railways in South London it looks like a mess of spaghetti just chucked onto the map especially around both London Bridge and Victoria near Battersea

[@oldvlognewtricks]

But surely private enterprise is the only reasonable way to… 😵‍💫🤯😵

[@bakkus82]

An IRL game of Transport Tycoon / Railroad Tycoon / Railway Empire /Whathaveyou: Build as many tracks as possible, connecting as many places as possible, all the while making sure you block the way for your competitors.

[@PaulElijas]

Jago! I’m usually a silent viewer not commenting on many videos. But I have to say that I have been following everyone of your videos for almost a year now and I’m always looking forward to the next one to brighten up my day and week :) I’m not even from London or the U.K. but I’m oddly fascinated with public transport - so much that I even traveled to London for a week just to ride trains. Anyways, thanks for your work.

[@Clyntonsshed]

Ha you’re bad as me, I haven’t been to London since 2016 and even then it was only a week. Love all the transport story’s especially the way Jago tells them

[@paintedpilgrim]

To semi quote an old advert for beer. "I could see my old house in this one...." But I do think the Bakerloo extension would be far more useful than re-opening this station.....perhaps the building though could be renovated and reused for the underground line??

[@ChilternTransportProductions]

It’s an inconvenient location as it’s far away from the centre of camberwell and also the wrong direction to where it would go. The old building probably wouldn’t help much anyway, better off demolishing it and building a completely new station building from scratch

[@ricktownend9144]

@@ChilternTransportProductions It is an inconvenient location for a tube station; a better parallel would be Bethnal Green tube station (Central line) on the main cross-roads (though not very convenient for transfers from Bethnal Green main line station). The best location for a tube station would be at Camberwell Green, just by the main shopping centre and bus stops - though the Bakerloo line possibility seems to be written off for the present.

[@duncan8238]

Me and my four year old daughter never miss an episode... I love that she loves trains, and I love that there are actually many other people that love trains, so I don't feel like such a weirdo :)

[@surajgandecha5908]

I take this route to work! There used to be a Southeastern train from Beckenham Junction to Blackfriars which meant I never had to change trains but since Covid, I now have to switch at Herne Hill onto the Thameslink and it's a nightmare! Couldn't imagine what reopening the station would do 👀

[@sylviaelse5086]

When I lived near Herne-Hill back in the 1970s and 80s, trains on the the two lines connected. The train to Holborn Viaduct (as then was, and referred to as "City") would arrive first, then the train to Victoria would leave first, and lastly the city train would leave. Similarly, in the reverse direction. This occasionally failed due to delays, but mostly worked. Of course, it meant that passengers staying on the city trains experienced a couple of minutes sat at Herne-Hill in both directions.

[@AllniceAndtidy]

I used to get this train as well and there were two a day, one in the morning about 7.30am and another in the early evening about 5pm, this was about six or seven years ago back in pre Covid days. The train started at Beckenham Junction calling at various stations including London Blackfriars then headed up to Bedford if memory serves me correctly. If the train wasn't running in the morning and I couldn't get the evening train the change at Herne Hill used to be a right pain!

[@surajgandecha5908]

@@AllniceAndtidy oh that service got removed by Thameslink well before Covid but then Southeastern took up the service after locals campaigned to have it reinstated up to Blackfriars!

[@rockoutdave411]

How I miss my commute from Elephant & Castle to Denmark Hill via Thameslink. Sure the bus was fine... but 1 stop on an ironing board seat was better than the bus.

[@Queen-of-Swords]

When I lived in SE London, there was some medical facility in Camberwell which was very hard to get to because of the lack of a station. Doubly annoying because if you don't know an area well, its hard to get off at the right bus stop. Oh well, still miss it. Spent 20 years living there!

[@paulklee5790]

Was it the Clap Clinic? Went past it many a time but never had cause to pop in....

[@tonys1636]

Having an LT bus route map in one's pocket was essential even for a bus driver. Not just for answering the public's questions but for that route one might only work once a year on a rest day or overtime and it had changed since one had learnt it. Bring back conductors, walking encyclopaedias.

[@zigzag913]

you miss camberwell? i assume you were attending the psychiatric services at king george?

[@sylviaelse5086]

Kings College Hospital.

[@martinparkinson3665]

Isn't Denmark Hill station just round the corner from the hospital ?

[@RebMordechaiReviews]

There has been a campaign since the 1960s for a station in Camberwick Green. Villages have been complaining for decades that they have to travel to into Chigley to catch a train to London.

[@thatonenico7116]

The old Walworth Station which is next from Camberwell is now a pub! Apparently you could still see some remains in one of the storage arches when the pub opened…

[@Jonjooooo]

Ooh which pub?

[@marrioman13]

Are you sure? I thought the entrance was just a gateway on John Ruskin street

[@thatonenico7116]

@@Jonjooooo Orbit Beers Brewery & Taproom! Just off of Walworth Road

[@thatonenico7116]

@@marrioman13 I think the pub sits in the arches just under where the platforms would've been - I don't think the entrance was there but I do recall them finding bits and an old access up to platform level

[@markrl75]

@@thatonenico7116 - Your absolutely correct the station entrance was from what's now called John Ruskin Street (formally Beresford Street) at a bridge slightly further down towards Camberwell. Until 2002 there used to be a pub there called the Station Tavern. The Orbit Beers Brewery & Taproom is in an arch underneath the old platforms at Fielding Street. Its all a little confusing as both the area and street names have changed quite a bit.

[@PabloBD]

Ah yes! Classic London, Chatham and Dover Railway shenanigans!

[@brianfretwell3886]

I believe that in its early days (horse) coaching rivals called it the "Land 'em Smash 'em and Over" due to accidents on the line and trying to make the coach seem safer.

[@sylviaelse5086]

Though presumably re-opening Camberwell would encourage development around it.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

If you told me Denmark Hill was a hill completely made of Lego....I'd believe you. I mean it WOULD suit them. We also have our own abandoned station, Kwangmyong. It's been closed since 1995, as the site of the mausoleum of my grandpa and later my father was gonna be at the Kumsusan Palace of the Sun above the station. And thus it's considered sacred grounds.

[@AddingtonSquare]

Wonderful ! . . . Great To Have A Camberwell Based Video, it's currently my neck of the woods. . . . Hopefully the campaign to reopen this station will be a success one day. . . . and yes ! . . . London, Chatham & Dover for ever ! ! !😄

[@danglover1075]

There's a now-defunct pub on the corner opposite. It was "The Station", featuring platform canopy style woodwork above the windows, when I first saw it - maybe in the late 1980s. Subsequently the fancy woodwork was removed and for a while it was "Jack Beards", and more recently "The Bear". As another random thing...Walworth bus garage is the opposite side of the road and Camberwell bus garage is about 150 yards to the south. Maybe one of these had a past life as a tram depot?

[@AaronOfMpls]

Some certainly have. I think Jago has even mentioned at least one; I'll edit this if I find it. As for here in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis & St Paul, Minnesota, US), our streetcar company had a big carbarn and shop complex at Snelling & St Anthony Aves in St Paul from 1907 on. Twin City Lines converted to buses in the early '50s, and kept using the building as a bus garage after that. The Metropolitan Transit Commission took over Twin City Lines in the late 60s, and in the late 90s another renaming made them Metro Transit. In the early 2000s, Metro Transit opened a new garage elsewhere in St Paul, and tore the old carbarn down soon after. A couple other old carbarns in Minneapolis survived even longer. A smaller one at 315 NE 1st Ave was home to the Superior Plating Co into the 2010s, before it was torn down and replaced with apartment buildings. And another one still survives as a multi-tenant industrial building at 2510 N Washington Ave.

[@johnedwards3760]

Walworth was the former tram depot. I had bus-driving uncles, one working at each of the pair - the Walworth one, Uncle Len, had retrained from being a tram driver.

[@nrbudgen]

Thanks for all your videos. I left the UK in 1979 before all the modern changes. I lived in Crouch End, Hornsey, used Finsbury Park and Wood Green/Turnpike Lane as my local stations and have fond memories of visiting my girlfriend in Brixton (Railton Road) before the Victoria Line had been completed. I also visited Camberwell and Elephant and Castle - all before they became 'fashionable' areas, when they were considered 'gritty'. I commuted from Finsbury Park to Tower Hill and often to Moorgate. Sometimes I travelled on the Northern Line in VERY old carriages - pre 1939. They were antiques even then. They had oval windows at the end of the carriages. BTW: I lived in the shadow of Ally Pally - what a hideously ugly building that is! I remember the IRA tried to bomb it and only damaged it. Pitty. Keep the videos coming!

[@spitfire1962]

I had a car repaired at that garage once, when I worked at Kings College Hospital.

[@chrissaltmarsh6777]

Ah, the Camberwell Carrot.

[@hojomoone]

This one appeals to a special place in my heart - I started my working life in Westminster, so although far too much about the UK is London-centric, quirky edutainment like this one always offer some invaluable insight into "Why?" Thank You 😊

[@PopeLando]

There does seem to have been something of an over-emphasis on making sure people knew that the railway served... Chatham?

[@Donwun]

Great video - lived in Camberwell for most of my life and always wanted a station - good breakdown

[@cd0u50c9]

I used to live 2 minutes away from this. Great feature. This and East Brixton I think would be very useful stations to reanimate.

[@eastlancsesteem]

Yes. East Brixton needs to open for the London Overground.

[@c0wqu3u31at3r]

Also needed: something the other side of Burgess Park and either Brockley East or carry on the Overground from New Cross down to Grove Park/Bromley via Lewisham.

[@cd0u50c9]

@@c0wqu3u31at3r Yes agreed. I find it inconcievable to talk about mega expansion projects that don't feature infrastructure that is already there and could be revived.

[@likklej8]

I was in Goldsmith’s college in the late sixties and used to go derelict building junking around south London to supplement my grant as lots of demolition was going on in the south. I thought it was a garage not a station

[@jjjez]

So very unfair Camberwell has been cheated out of a station. Bakerloo line should have come here too. Current plans make me vomit

[@tonygledhill8827]

Thank you, Jago for these super little films. I have traveled into the metropolis from Kent since I was a lad, that's along time ....and you have basically explained everything that I couldn't get my head around for all that time, ..The utter nonsense that is railway travel into London from Maidstone, Chatham and The Medway Towns...I could never understand why the train through SE London would use so many routes into either Victoria or Charing Cross or Blackfriars or London Bridge. Thank You again. I love the huge London Chatham and Dover crest at Blackfriars,.

[@JayJay-nc7pr]

Denmark Hill and Loughborough Junction serve areas that just border Camberwell, DH is near to East Dulwich, and LJ is near to Brixton, a more central station in Camberwell would be useful, this is why I hope the Bakerloo gets extended to there instead of Lewisham (which is railway central)

[@miguelbarreira5005]

I am a simple man, I see Battersea Power Station, I press like

[@Melbournelost66]

Camberwell Station Melbourne is amazingly similar to Redding Station. It's so obvious how they modelled our stations on the English designs... I love what you do, it's fascinating and I can't wait to return to London.

[@msg5507]

I get the impression that the demographics of posh Camberwell in Melbourne are a little different to those of Camberwell in Sahf London.

[@MrPolicekarim]

@@msg5507 LOL!

[@Melbournelost66]

@@msg5507 That’s very true, Camberwell, Hawthorn areas are expensive places to live in Melbourne. But my recollection of Camberwell London wasn’t too bad but that was in 97. 🤔

[@TheRealPotoroo]

@@msg5507 Fun fact: until November, 2021, the City of Camberwell was Melbourne's only dry council area. Not a single pub, and residents had to vote to approve every liquor licence application for cafes and restaurants.

[@Melbournelost66]

@@TheRealPotoroo Yes, I am sure it came about through a very strong Christian element in the inner east of leafy Melbourne.

[@CableWrestler]

Thank you for including concise subtitles in your videos. I can't always watch with sound, so it's perfect for me to enable them and still enjoy it just as much.

[@Punnery]

It makes sense that the goods yard would hang around longer here. If Camberwell was losing passengers to the tram service, that wouldn't eat into the goods business. And maybe not having to deal with stopping passenger services here would have been a good thing... for the goods thing.

[@konradc12]

New to me. I lived close by in the first few years of my life many decades ago. I always wondered why there no railway station in the Camberwell /Walworth area and this video answered the question. I just looked on Google maps and.'Former Camberwell railway station' is labelled.

[@TheTM1Channel]

"if you take a walk alongside the railway between Loughborough Junction and Elephant and Castle...." On my one visit there I got the distinct impression that walking around anywhere near the Elephant and Castle was an experience best avoided. Your mileage may vary.

[@markrl75]

Make sure you wear your gold Rolex and don't forget to prominently display your iPhone 13 pro max. You'll be sure to meet some very interesting people and your afternoon wont be dull.

[@CCA2020]

The bakerloo line coming here would be helpful Although, would prefer the newer version of the BLE

[@juliansadler6263]

There was a siding dropping down off the up local line well into the 1970s. As you say now built over. The Bakerloo Line tunnel was driven as far as Camberwell Gate (Brockwell Park). Camberwell Council visited the site to discuss station entrances. As we know it never happened.

[@villageblunder4787]

What tunnel extension is this?

[@juliansadler6263]

@@villageblunder4787 Bakerloo Line as I said. Never properly completed only a heading to Brockwell Park.

[@villageblunder4787]

@@juliansadler6263 Any evidence for this mystery tunnel?

[@juliansadler6263]

@@villageblunder4787 Council minutes of the time also take a look down the track at the Elephant. It does go past the headshunt.

[@markrl75]

@@villageblunder4787 - I believe the 1948 tube map shows the dotted proposed Bakerloo line extension from Elephant & Castle to Camberwell.

[@Bunter.948]

Trains in South East London. What a topic for an excellent video, Mr H. I started my working life with what was then British Railways in Mottingham. (My computer's predictive text has just asked "Nottingham?", just as people did back then.). Excuse me while I sigh contentedly for a while. Thanks, Mr H, Simon T

[@blairrobinson4760]

I used to visit the Signalbox in 1961 and work the signalling there while training as a Signal Enginmeer

[@lightingkeys]

I have to say I have enjoyed all your videos and being born in King's college hospital I never knew all this so will have to take a pilgrimage back to check out these sights in Denmark hill

[@federicomarintuc]

The street and buildings on this video reminds me of Buenos Aires, specially the south where you can find old tram depots now converted into other uses

[@baseballfan99]

Been through on the bus a few times but never stopped to have a gander. I am fascinated by all of the routes and have been on many of the lines. The most interesting journey being a charter which can round from Hendon,through Clapham Junction before heading down the Brighton Main Line.

[@CityNaturePig]

To all subscribers, I recommend the subscription page. The bell has a limit and still filters, the sub-page does not. Just needs to be checked manually at yt/feed/subscriptions...

[@DaJamsta123]

Seems a similar story to Walworth Road (just up the line towards Elephant). Despite that, would love a video on that station if only to get the full story better than I've managed.

[@MrDavil43]

The combined SER and LCDR had one of the most beautiful liveries ever to grace steam locomotives. Have a look at the Wainwright D Class no737 in the museum at York...

[@benlee812]

This makes me so happy, I live right near this!

[@highpath4776]

If I have good inclination I can Camber Well

[@roderickmain9697]

Fascinating. (I'm easily fascinated). As someone who used to live in Newhaven, coming up from the south coast to London was always a "wonder where that line goes" or in some cases "went". I can attest to some seriously convoluted tracks which go ...well, who knows? Occasionally a track perpendicular might reveal a station close to the route into London...but I never found out the name(s). Occassionallyt a vanished station might reveal itself by platform remains. South London is indeed a treasure trove for the rail geek. (Like me).

[@Srevelation]

If there is a day in the week someone always mentions opening Camberwell Station

[@pmayer9376]

Another great video. You might want to consider doing a video on the sidings at Walworth built for Newington Vestry (one of the authorities merged into Southwark Council) to send thousands of tons of rubbish to Longfield in Kent from 1874. The manure was sold to local farmers as "Newington Mixture" and the fire ash to briIt was the idea of the all powerful vestry clerk (like a chief executive today) who seems to have run the council rather than the councillors. He was so keen to make it look a financial success that he went to prison eventually for embezzling other accounts.

[@CarolineFord1]

Manor Place depot

[@eastlancsesteem]

The only way to get to Camberwell is by bus in a long snake of traffic, or by getting of at Denmark Hill Overground station and walking down.

[@FatManTap]

I think your argument at the end against reopening puts the cart before the horse. An ambitious transit plan for South would adopt a “build it and they will come” approach; if recent construction around E&C is anything to go by there’s certainly demand for it from developers. Historically, this is how London’s suburbs developed. I think reopening Camberwell and Walworth Road stations would be followed by the housing that would make it worthwhile, plus it would fill that area’s transit void and relieve a hectic bus corridor along Camberwell Rd/Walworth Rd

[@izzieb]

The developers (and as a result LU - see the last BLE proposal, after the consultation overwhelmingly supported a route via Camberwell) have unfortunately put their eggs firmly in the basket of Old Kent Road area, despite the fact stations in Camberwell and Walworth Road would serve far more people and more effectively reduce congestion and pollution on Walworth Road. Not enough money to be made for developers I suppose...

[@FatManTap]

@@izzieb unfortunately, you may be right. It’s just a shame that the business/economic case seems to direct all transport project approvals in this way. We should build transit where we want people to go! And it’s not like these would be greenfield sites, there are already thousands of people lining the route. Anyway, what do I know

[@AndrewG1989]

Apparently Camberwell in South London could have its own railway station back with Thameslink serving the new station and area. As well as other areas in Greater London that don’t have railway stations that could have railway stations coming back. Including Primrose Hill in North London which is near to Camden Roundhouse and help relieve the congestion at Chalk Farm Northern Line station. And new railway stations in London including Old Oak Common (as part of HS2) with Hythe Road and Old Oak Common Road Overground stations nearby. A new Overground station at New Bermondsey (to serve Millwall FC), Barking Riverside (once the London Overground extension is completed). A new station to serve Thamesmead (as part of the DLR extension to Thamesmead) and Brent Cross West Thameslink station that would serve Brent Cross shopping centre.

[@garrymartin6474]

I'm surprised to learn Loughborough Junction isn't in Loughborough !

[@JohnADoe-pg1qk]

That would be far too easy and boring. 🥱

[@garrymartin6474]

@@JohnADoe-pg1qk and not as good as New York Stadium being in Rotherham

[@librarian16]

It should really be Loughborough Road Junction.

[@jimroberts3651]

There is a nearby road called Loughborough Road, named after a local landowner Baron Lougborough. He only owned the area, he didn't live there - mind you he didn't live in Loughborough either although he may have owned part of it. The station was originally called Loughborough Road and later Loughborough Junction.

[@PiousMoltar]

The Loughborough Gap certainly is though!

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

4:38 The garage, oh fellas, the garage, ooh la di da Mr French man.

[@KravKernow]

Hey, as a north London boy I'd love a holiday in south London. From your videos it seems quite nice, and interesting. Do I need a visa? I'm still a bit confused by this Brexit thing,

[@ricktownend9144]

Another great video - many thanks! Camberwell shopping centre might be better served by a tube line, though the proposed Bakerloo extension seems to have gone with the Old Kent Road (maybe because that's on the monopoly board, unlike Camberwell). But in fact Camberwell is reasonably served by Denmark Hill Station (which could reasonably be renamed "... for Camberwell") which has Thameslink trains, plus the Overground, and the Victoria -Lewisham service. It's no further to walk to than the actual Camberwell station (if that were re-opened), and there are frequent buses. Other south London stations similar distances from their local high streets are Sidcup, Eltham, and Bexleyheath.

[@coop_coop007]

It shouldn't be abandoned , it should be rehomed. Like the dogs at Battersea.

[@highpath4776]

Really needs a station connection at Loughborough Junction on the SLL Overground Line. ( and increased Overground Frequency too )

[@a1white]

Yes and Brixton

[@eattherich9215]

Oh Camberwell and by extension, Walworth and Brixton, is a proper pain in the butt to get to on the bus. Trains whizz through what could be stations whilst the bus plods along like an old donkey. I seldom bother.

[@rattyfus8218]

I do get notified of your videos and have been merrily trawling the back catalogue. Just thought that might cheer you up a smidge.

[@Ad-gn8pl]

Oh those Chatham boys! Having stayed recently at the Travelodge in Rochester I can confirm that the Chatham line gets a really great service quite late into the night 🥱

[@jamesblair18]

I hope you took your vaccinations for Souff Londan! The problem with this location is, just not at any major intersection for footfall. If the station was nearer to say shops, the bus garage or perhaps a McDonalds then you may be on to a winner. Proving you can’t just put a station anywhere and expect the public to use it!

[@aloysiussnailchaser272]

Unfair to SE London! We live in Spain and we’re going to Deptford Fun City for two weeks holiday in September.

[@cjayos7654]

2:33 It is now more expensive to buy a flat in London than build a railway. It's true.

[@ReubenAshwell]

A brilliant video as always, pitty about KZbin not notifying and theres a reason why I turned that notification bell on. :)

[@MrDportjoe]

Will be getting a taste of 'Rail Reality" in September as we fly into Gatwick, then train to hotel in Camden, with in city treks followed by some Great Western, Euro Star, SNCF and Paris Megro and then fly Pairs to Edinburgh. More rail back down to London, then home (sort of as we are flying out of Canada to shave some costs). Now i will pack T shirts from both of my unions incase I get the chance to offer a little cross pond support. Just because I've retired from my full time job, and now only work p/t in a private sector don't mean I've given up on solidarity.

[@kaitlyn__L]

I get the feeling the rail network in France will spoil you for back in the UK! 😉 The East Coast Main Line from Edinburgh down to London has some lovely sea views though, I hope you enjoy it all! Edit: I might even suggest getting a railcard if they allow people with (inferentially) US addresses to sign up for them - the savings is usually larger than the purchase price for a long cross-country trip like on the ECML! Then any further savings on your shorter trips are just gravy. Many railcards also offer discounts in London on the Oyster network, after you’ve linked them together. It sounds like you’re travelling with your spouse, and there is a railcard for 2 people travelling together. But perhaps your travel planning agency has already sorted all of that out for you in both the UK and France? 🙂

[@maia_key]

We have Camberwell and East Camberwell stations here in Melbourne, AU (also Denmark Hill is just up the road in Kew)

[@Bbq7272]

I thought there might have been one between singleton and Muswellbrook but it is in the area on the 1960s deviation so no historical station. Edit. Checked Ravensworth was originally Camberwell which is the name of the mine which swallowed the original alignment of the main north line out of Singleton

[@brianfretwell3886]

Traveling to work through there in the 1970's and 80's I was well aware of the platforms (which were a little less overgrown then) especially when the train on which I was traveling with my father hit a person right by it. WE were stuck there for nearly an hour with trains passing on the other pair of lines waiting for another driver and the fire brigade/ambulance to remove body parts - there was a severed foot the last carriage , which we were in!!!

[@Amdecreations.]

My endz or area. I had a dream years ago that Camberwell Tube station was where Nandos is in Camberwell Green. Still think there should be a tube station for Camberwell for the Bakerloo line extension.

[@lawrencelewis2592]

The Thameslink will take you to Carshalton, home of a great pub, "The Hope." I will be there in several weeks and could sure use a nice pint!

[@theghostofsabertache9049]

The hope is a great boozer. No TV’s, no sports, no music. Just really great ale and conversation. It’s impossible to go there and not end up in an interesting conversation with complete stranger.

[@lawrencelewis2592]

@@theghostofsabertache9049 I've been there many times- their beer fests are always good. Always a great selection. I was in there a few years ago and ordered a pint- people heard my Canadian accent and likely wondered what I would order. I don't recall just what it was, but I got the nods of approval from everyone seated at the bar. I'll be over there in July and I plan to be there at least once.

[@davegray205]

Hi Jago, the original Camberwell tube station entrance was planned to be put in Denmark Hill, near what is now the shopping centre and that golden arch. The Walworth road station was in John Ruskin station, very near the aptly named Station Arms. As you guessed….. your on my old manor🤣🤣

[@thomaszinser8714]

Honestly, while you were talking about the extreme competition between railway companies in South London, my first thought was that this could make for a really interesting board game. Lol, might be a bit too complex, though.

[@robertmcgovern8850]

'Monopoly' for train fetishists? You'd spend three hours hoarding your farthings, floating dodgy bonds, bribing MPs, plotting extensions to Alexandra Palace ... only for Charles Yerkes to stab you in the back and take over your railway.

[@teecefamilykent]

Brilliant video sir, might have some treat news for you soon.

[@maryapatterson]

Sarf London needs a tube. Once you leave Brixton is just buses. As demonstrated there are plenty of overground trains, but one does not want to be hanging around late at night at Tulse Hill Station. I have done it before and it's not fun esp in the winter when it gets dark at about 3.30pm.

[@villageblunder4787]

The annoying thing about this line is that although there are few stations, the trains still run extremely slowly allowing plenty of time to stop at Camberwell and Walworth.

[@keithorchard3137]

Excellent as always, Jago !!

[@nutsnproud6932]

Thanks for the video Jago.

[@marklatimer7333]

"If you can't afford a proper Holiday Visit South London" - you missed your vocation in the Advertising Industry. What else "If all else fails try Catford".

[@Jimyjames73]

Very good as per usual - I get a Blue Dot next to your name - every time you release a new vid & that is how I know when you have done that!!! 😉🚂🚂🚂

[@chriswareham]

"The joint I am about to roll requires a craftsman and can utilize up to twelve spliffs. It is called a Camberwell Carrot. I invented it in Camberwell and it's shaped like a carrot."

[@jamesgibbons6992]

Always seen denmark hill and especially Loughborough Junction as their own place not apart of camberwell . Both aren't really convenient for camberwell and not enough trains go north from Denmark Hill just a lot more convenient to get buses from camberwell green 15 or more different bus routes it actually one of the best things for me personally living in camberwell green is all the buses. The biggest problem to reopen camberwell station is that its on a back road not really convenient for camberwell but would be nice to have the option of more trains north and south locally

[@letmelooktv]

Something on the state of the plans for the bakerloo line extension would make an interesting video or 3

[@JagoHazzard]

Funny you should mention that, I have a script already written…

[@TadeuszCantwell]

There's a lot to be said for a holiday south of the Themes with it being a different district for law enforcement, the globe theatre and lots of houses of vice and gambling. My information might not have been updated since the 1600s.

[@Duececoupe]

Wait....what!? Denmark and hill, together....in one sentence!? This is too much and far too early in the morning.... I need to sit down! I need coffee.... STRONG coffee.... What will there be next....(shiver)?

[@TheNemocharlie]

Don't even get me going on Denmark Hill.......

[@rgpeters]

I live just off where you started your video, what about the loop that turnes off going right (heading shouth) at Loughborough Jucntion and connects the Thames Link line with the overground, the closed section of Brixton station and could go both to Victoria or Clapham Junction ?

[@timsully8958]

Knowing that area as I do I half expected you to say the station at Camberwell had been half-inched and just the foundations remained. A little cruel perhaps but not entirely unfair 🤷🏻‍♂️ You’re dead right about the railways saaaarf of the river. The map looks as though Roger Hargreaves drew it as an afterthought the same day he drew a picture of Mr Messy 😅 Very interesting stuff sir! Many thanks as ever 🍀🍻👍

[@a11oge]

Perhaps one of your videos on the many 'overground' rail routes in SE London from the 19th C is called for??

[@adrianrutterford762]

Crazily Interesting, or interesting crazy. I’m not sure which applies to the building of the railways in South London. Thanks Mr Hazzard

[@kidmohair8151]

as you have suggested, I have "hit the like button" and left a comment for the algo-guy

[@kidmohair8151]

and given the way I do this tube of you thing, you get 2 views for the price of one...although it doesn't cost me a thing except for having to deal with the ads

[@stevejacob7158]

Did you hear that planing is now going ahead to extend The Elizabeth line from abbey wood to Gravesend via Dartford and Greenhithe?

[@JagoHazzard]

I did - I’m thinking of doing a video on the subject.

[@UK.RoadsCyclingandTransport]

Great video Jago

[@ianallen6670]

Could you please do a video on the Wimbledon to Sutton via St Helier line, a line I often used in sixties