Cambridge Surprise Maximus on the bells of the Cathedral Church of St Michael, Coventry

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@poly_hexamethyl
@poly_hexamethyl 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Wow, they sure managed to cram a lot of bells into the available space. What amazes me is how they are able to control the bells so accurately from down below. From this amazing view, you can see how some bells are balanced at the top of their swing so as to prolong the delay until the next strike, and others are being pulled into a shorter arc to quicken the next blow. What's really incredible is that they are able to do this without being able to see the bells, just by listening and looking at the other ringers. And then there's the delay from when they pull to when the bells strike. And on top of all that, they also have to remember where they are in the sequence, since presumably they're doing this all from memory, without looking at any "music". Truly they must have amazing skill to do this.
@Steven_Rowe
@Steven_Rowe 6 ай бұрын
It is the very fact that the bells swing through 360 degrees that allows them to swap positions, as you can either delay pulling the rope or pull it earlier to swap positions. Change r8nging means that in every sequence each and every bells sounds once and the amount of possible sequences is dependant on the number of bells. As an example with two bells then only 2 positions are possible,with 3 it it's 6 it is the factorial of the number. With 8 bells it is 40320, and with 12 it is a stageer8ng 479001600. There are some very basic rules and the li it's are set by the fact that bells are big and take time to swing. A bell can either stay in it's same position in the sequence, and a bell can only move up or down the sequence by one position at a time. Change ringing is about making sure that no sequence is repeated. A peal is a term given to a certain of changes which is slightly over 5000 changes, commonly around 5040 and can take anywhere between 2 has 40 minutes to well over 4hrs 30s depending on the number of bells and the size. With an 8 bell peal of bells it is often the case that bells 1 to 7 change places but bell 8. Known as the tenor always stays in the last position. It just happens to be that 7 factorial is 5040 changes so it is possible to ring 5040 unique changes. Change ringing isn't done from memory but it is not really donr from music. We use methods that look like a graph which shows the position of each bell . The ringer needs to remember the graph, in this case it is a method called Cambridge Maximus, maximus means all 12bells change. If you ring 5040 changes of Cambridge, the graph isn't 5040 changes long if tou simply ring the method as written after around 10 minutes or so you will start repeating the changes. How they get more combinations is my a conductor who makes calls, they are called bobs and singles, when the conductor does this certain when bells are I. Certain positions it instructs the ringer to swap over his bell with another. In Cambridge any bell that is either in 2nd position, third position or 4 th position when the conductor makes a call changes to another position. So 2 will now be 3, 3 becomes 4 and 4 becomes 2, they then continue inthe new position in the graph. This is what happens if the conductor tor calls out Bob. If the conductor calls single the 2 does change, it remains unaffected. But bells in position 3 and 4 swap over. It sounds complex but it's easy to do. There is no way any ringer could remember what bells he has to follow, he simply knows the positioning the graph.
@happywanderer34
@happywanderer34 12 жыл бұрын
These are the most beautiful ring of twelve that I have ever had the pleasure of ringing on in the early 90's I used to ring here quite regularly, no other twelve bells comes close to them
@Organgrinder1010
@Organgrinder1010 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the extensive history of the bells, and of your ringing. They make such a glorious sound!
@clochebell
@clochebell 13 жыл бұрын
A really wonderful tribute to the great change ringing traditions of the British Isles ... absolutely fantastic !!
@deeremeyer1753
@deeremeyer1753 7 жыл бұрын
It sure is amazing how the bells can be ringing in sequence in the soundtrack and yet at least half of them are "up" at any one time.
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@topshed34a The first G+J bell I ever come across was the tenor at St Mary' Barton upon Humber... it makes an utterly SUPERB sound, from that I knew that G+J were capable of seriously good things.
@teslasparksloughborough9963
@teslasparksloughborough9963 11 жыл бұрын
I helped raise money for these bells to be rehung back in 1987. It great they still sound good. And lots of people are enjoying them..
@imtheman9303
@imtheman9303 7 жыл бұрын
Tesla Sparks Loughborou
@crewmantle
@crewmantle 10 жыл бұрын
This video is the most superb accounting of the Cambridge Surprise Maximus found anywhere on the net across the globe. The ringing is without rival, and the bells themselves of the highest caliber. Utterly sensational. This is how it is done.
@markpatterson9585
@markpatterson9585 7 жыл бұрын
beauty,and indescribable,holy,pure,and reaches our inner soul,preparing us to the godly realms which await us,OUR REAL LIFE TO BEGIN when we shed this earthly world
@imtheman9303
@imtheman9303 7 жыл бұрын
crewmantle and
@davidhenry3202
@davidhenry3202 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree.
@Orgelix
@Orgelix 14 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Love it!
@rodbicke
@rodbicke 14 жыл бұрын
Well done, if only there were more similar quality recordings
@vasilis1380
@vasilis1380 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic..
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@2000VR There certainly is, in the opposite corner.
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@robertgift I'd have liked a longer piece of ringing though this striking is of a higher quality than if i'd have videoed from the beginning of the ringing. And yes, I had some ear defenders on... they have been a very wise aquisition!
@poly_hexamethyl
@poly_hexamethyl 6 жыл бұрын
Funny, when the bells are up and you can see the white area where the clapper hits and has damaged the inside of the bell, the damaged area seems to extend quite a bit wider than the size of the clapper. Does it mean that, at one time, the clappers weren't mounted very rigidly and swung all over the place, hitting the bell in different places?
@ariefnugroho2145
@ariefnugroho2145 5 жыл бұрын
YIKES THE BELLS IS SO MANY!
@Steven_Rowe
@Steven_Rowe 13 жыл бұрын
A nice video and well struck. Fillets made fine bells. Sydney town hall clock bells are gillets. How good would the old Bow peal have sounded before WW2
@irkibby
@irkibby 14 жыл бұрын
@bellboy222 My current camera does not capture the fullness of sound that I would like, everything comes out a bit tinny. But a big advantage is that it does capture belfry volume extremely well with no crackle. I do not have much experience of these well known glorious Gillett rings so can't really say, but from my own limited experience they do sound G+Jlike.
@giovannimatheus974
@giovannimatheus974 6 жыл бұрын
irkibby ïig
@campanophile67
@campanophile67 13 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@justpuca9378
@justpuca9378 4 жыл бұрын
Poor bell In the bottom left corner 1:00
@RingerThomas
@RingerThomas 4 жыл бұрын
Ah. That’s just the flat sixth to make a light eight when they need it.
@AbdulShakoor-br1jo
@AbdulShakoor-br1jo 6 жыл бұрын
Quite satisfying if you ask me.
@steelswarfs
@steelswarfs 7 жыл бұрын
Very complex!
@robertgift
@robertgift 13 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Thank you forecording this and posting it. Would like all 10 minutes which KZbin allows. (Hope you were wearing hearing protection.)
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@dwigley1977 And scored into the white paint there are indeed arrow marks. It's just amusing that they are this utterly fantastic bells and somebody just sloshed white paint on them
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@clochebell Many thanks, here at Coventry we have an unusual good view of the bells, with enough light
@jordantrivett3587
@jordantrivett3587 10 жыл бұрын
Can you make more videos of this Cathedral with The bells
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@323mooman Catch the attention of the ringers through the glass screen.
@chesteranderson8437
@chesteranderson8437 3 жыл бұрын
The bells are scary. Just to know a pile of bells coming at you.
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@glocke4 No they have not. I do not know why the white paint is on the bells!
@bellboy222
@bellboy222 14 жыл бұрын
A good clear recording of a quality twelve, well done! Is it only me that thinks that these dont have the typical, instantly recognizable Gillet+Johnston sound about them? Like Halifax and the Croydon twelves do? These sound more like a Taylor ring to me, although I know full well they're Gillets!
@RingerThomas
@RingerThomas 4 жыл бұрын
Because they’re not tuned to the Major 3rd Hum thing. Gilletts were only tuning Major 3rd bells in the 1910’s to 20’s but from then it was stopped. Rochester Are a good example of it.
@bellboy222
@bellboy222 4 жыл бұрын
@@RingerThomas Tell me something I don't already know!
@RingerThomas
@RingerThomas 4 жыл бұрын
@@bellboy222 Hmm. That the headstocks aren’t gilletts. And they were hung by Taylor’s after the old ring was broken due to the cathedral being bombed.
@bellboy222
@bellboy222 4 жыл бұрын
@@RingerThomas What, and you think I didn't already know the history of Coventry Cathedral's bells? The old ring was not broken due to the bombing in WW2. In fact, the bells had been recast in 1927, using the metal from the previous ten bells, which had been unringable for a long time previously, due to tower structure issues. They survived the bombing intact. After a long study on the tower structure, it was concluded that the tower could hold the bells safely if hung for ringing lower down the tower. An appeal was launched, and Taylors refitted the bells and hung them for ringing in 1987. It was one of the most interesting projects to have happened in my lifetime
@RingerThomas
@RingerThomas 4 жыл бұрын
@@bellboy222 Nice one. You didn’t tell me that you knew. That’s what I thought you didn’t know.
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@2000VR Also the flat sixth is not being rung
@moncky2000
@moncky2000 10 жыл бұрын
Are these on plain bearings or roller bearings?
@irkibby
@irkibby 10 жыл бұрын
Neither, modern ball bearings, as installed as part of the hanging of them for change ringing in 1987
@moncky2000
@moncky2000 10 жыл бұрын
Ah ok. I was just wondering why they are slow at turning
@chadblackwell5861
@chadblackwell5861 10 жыл бұрын
moncky2000 because they're big bells! The trebles are slow turning because the trebles of of a 12 need to be slower so they are more compatible with the swing speeds of the larger bells.
@SamRudolph-e5v
@SamRudolph-e5v 5 ай бұрын
It’s crazy that Gillett and Johnson casted Coventry cathedral bells.
@nyarome8436
@nyarome8436 7 жыл бұрын
It looks like you could fall in there. Scary thought.
@joeritchie7286
@joeritchie7286 7 жыл бұрын
Nyaromel Its best that anybody dosnt look down for too long. You might get vertigo
@TheMickhowes
@TheMickhowes 11 жыл бұрын
what was the 13th bell used for
@irkibby
@irkibby 11 жыл бұрын
the bell not in use in the corner is the flat 6th bell, it is used instead of the actual sixth bell sometimes so that a true octave can be rung, which are bells 2 to 9 of the 12
@TheMickhowes
@TheMickhowes 11 жыл бұрын
irkibby thanks for that, great sounding ring.
@jordantrivett3587
@jordantrivett3587 10 жыл бұрын
It's like a Liverpool Cathedral the sharp second bill is only used on some occasions
@thaonguyennguyen6567
@thaonguyennguyen6567 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@bellboy222
@bellboy222 14 жыл бұрын
@irkibby , have a listen to one of the vids of Wimborne Minster, they're what I would call "typical" Gillets, and compare that to this recording. It is not your camera, there is a big difference. My ear is not as perfect/ well trained as some, but if someone had played me this while I was blindfolded, then I would have said "Taylors"!
@omriboehm7180
@omriboehm7180 4 жыл бұрын
🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗😯😯😯😯😯😯🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴 wow!
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@exposed97 How so?
@oss06
@oss06 14 жыл бұрын
Great !
@__Rher_
@__Rher_ 2 ай бұрын
what camera did you use to film this?
@thaonguyennguyen6567
@thaonguyennguyen6567 7 жыл бұрын
what 15 bells
@jordantrivett3587
@jordantrivett3587 10 жыл бұрын
Very pretty bells
@theboywhodroveaway7954
@theboywhodroveaway7954 9 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!!! :)
@jordantrivett3587
@jordantrivett3587 9 жыл бұрын
why in the video do the bells have a greenish color?
@theboywhodroveaway7954
@theboywhodroveaway7954 9 жыл бұрын
+Jordan Trivett I don't no
@johnmulvey7890
@johnmulvey7890 8 жыл бұрын
Because they are made from a copper alloyed with tin. Copper always colours green after being exposed to the atmosphere for a while.
@theboywhodroveaway7954
@theboywhodroveaway7954 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@MsPepper1969
@MsPepper1969 7 жыл бұрын
Tonen?
@mariaharris9314
@mariaharris9314 6 жыл бұрын
Hi my name is Michael
@JointedStudios
@JointedStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Why is there 2 cards on each side of each bell?
@irkibby
@irkibby 3 жыл бұрын
It's paint! When they were hung in 1987 these bells had never been rung with swinging clappers, so there were no clapper indentations to figure out how large to make the clappers. Someone decided to daub paint where they thought the clappers would be and scratched markings, to get correct measurements. It looks odd.
@JointedStudios
@JointedStudios 9 ай бұрын
@@irkibby Interesting. I have no idea why I called them "cards" haha.
@endangfatmawati2336
@endangfatmawati2336 Жыл бұрын
Bells ada😊😊😊😊❤
@moncky2000
@moncky2000 10 жыл бұрын
I can see the #9th bell at the top left of the video which is hung dead
@irkibby
@irkibby 10 жыл бұрын
Yep! Look closely and you can see the dark metal structure which holds the electromagnetic hammer at the side of the bell, which strikes it for services
@moncky2000
@moncky2000 10 жыл бұрын
So the dark zig zag frame is just for a hammer?
@moncky2000
@moncky2000 10 жыл бұрын
Also I'm ringing at a place called Bengeo that has 8 bells with small wheels on the 2 trebles. Why would you have small wheels?
@irkibby
@irkibby 10 жыл бұрын
moncky2000 So they're relative to the speed of the bells, and the dynamics of the ring as a whole
@theboywhodroveaway7954
@theboywhodroveaway7954 9 жыл бұрын
+irkibby Beutiful bells!!!
@juanzingarello4005
@juanzingarello4005 6 жыл бұрын
Why did I think they would have automated this by now?
@irenec4876
@irenec4876 5 жыл бұрын
Cause you have utterly no idea about what ringing is. It is not just about bells ringing for church services baceuse if it was they wouldn’t be rung anymore by hand. It is about the heritage of ringing and the history. It is about tradition of ringing changes on bells. It is also a very social activity. If you want to see automated bells look at bells in germany or italy.
@ferdinandbiaddang3864
@ferdinandbiaddang3864 7 жыл бұрын
18:34
@champagnesylvie-lavieenfra1378
@champagnesylvie-lavieenfra1378 6 жыл бұрын
🚨 🚒Hello there 🚎🚎🚦 Greetings from *FRANCE*🐥🐦🦈Madame Sylvie is in visit on this channel🐬🐋 Be bless everybody 💒
@alethetravel5633
@alethetravel5633 4 жыл бұрын
R I P EARPHONE
@nikospodas6201
@nikospodas6201 7 жыл бұрын
that bell next to the 5th is it a extra bell?
@theadrien1937
@theadrien1937 6 жыл бұрын
no, it rings for services with a electromagnet hammer
@timmeh1507
@timmeh1507 14 жыл бұрын
SPANKING!!!
@Taco636
@Taco636 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Grantham
@irkibby
@irkibby 14 жыл бұрын
@Arlberg09 Fantastisch
@ZagyPenpendeSarapen
@ZagyPenpendeSarapen 4 жыл бұрын
....
@ceruz2000
@ceruz2000 Жыл бұрын
0:00❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@garson9937
@garson9937 7 жыл бұрын
nice, but i think one bell sounds better
@nikospodas6201
@nikospodas6201 7 жыл бұрын
13 BELLS
@irkibby
@irkibby 7 жыл бұрын
ACTUALLY 14
@fredmills368
@fredmills368 6 жыл бұрын
Nope 15
@rosetaxdcanadasfernandez6046
@rosetaxdcanadasfernandez6046 6 жыл бұрын
@@fredmills368 nope 14
@irkibby
@irkibby 13 жыл бұрын
@TheCorny54 33-3-6
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@Mp-sj1pm 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry but Ugly sound
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