Camelot DENIED Triple Crown glory by Encke in the 2012 Leger!

[@911LAMBER]

This race was a disgrace. Camelot should've been awarded this race and therefore the Triple Crown because Al Zarooni had been subsequently caught pumping rocket fuel into his horses. A shocking disgrace.

[@robertbarter6735]

I come back and watch this every so often. It was a bad ride from Joseph in fairness but when he was pulled out he had about 4 lengths to make up and only lost it by 3/4 of a length goes to show the class the horse up against a horse on performance enhancers. I agree he was robbed and should have been awarded the race 👍

[@kfc136]

Encke didn't win that race. What won it was Al Zarooni injecting that horse with anabolic steroids.

[@nightowl7459]

He won the St Leger, no need to be bitter about that fact, if anything it was Camelots Jockey that got him beat, nothing to do with steroids.

[@kevinmunday5782]

@@nightowl7459 Well Said

[@sarsfield7]

camelot is a great horse ,but i have to say it just goes to show how good nijinski was.

[@gerfome]

All praise to Aiden O'Brien and the owners for attempting the triple crown. Just goes to show what a champion Nijinsky was! Take nothing away from Camelot. It was a brave effort, but colliding with with Michelangelo cost him the race. It would have helped if he had been able to have a tussle with encke from about the four furlong marker. One thing is for sure, he is a stayer. Maybe something not quite right with him? Nijinsky and the Brigadier were beaten at the end of their careers.Heroes all!

[@kevinmunday5782]

Jerome Brown I'm glad encke won. Camelot wouldnt have beaten nijinsky with a head start....

[@azertyuiop32]

........however the jockey on the winner outfoxed him and kicked for home when young o brien was sitting scratching his arse. when he finally realised his pre-race plan of winning hard held was pretty much fucked, he then attempted to reel in the winner but unfortunately it was too little too late. this isnt an isolated incident of incompetence from him. ive already mentioned his ride on cristoforo columbo. his ride on st nic abbey back in the spring when he got beat by windsor palace was a joke

[@barbfrmsf]

May Encke rest in peace. I hope you have plenty of carrots in the great beyond.

[@mrgirthy2111]

Cost me £450 that did, only for encke to be tested positive some time later

[@latitude51uk]

Completely disgusting now that we know how Godolphin conducts its crooked racing enterprise. Camelot should have been the first Triple Crown winner since Nijinsky in 1970, but the Sheikh decided that he would cheat and win the St Leger for himself. He should be warned off for life.

[@sandeepkuppan4982]

Big Mistake by Joseph. Should have left the rails much earlier

[@edmondscott7444]

Off = racing. Poor ride on Camelot. Jockey must have thought he was on Concord.

[@azertyuiop32]

well done to joseph o brien for costing camelot, his trainer and his connections the chance to be associated with a trple crown winner which is something that will probably never even be attempted, never mind achieved, in my lifetime. i said after his sucidial ride on cristoforo colombo last month in the phoenix stakes that i wouldnt have him anywhere near my horses. in the st leger he was obviously trying to be a smartarse, thinking he was going to win on the bridle...........

[@johncashbeast5057]

No he was making sure to not make too much use of him

[@kevinmunday5782]

His positioning was dreadful, compare piggots ride on Nijinsky in this race way back in 1970, ......different class

[@stateofdreams1]

Camelot is a very unlucky loser here. Poorly ridden, he was staying on strongly at the end and it was really sad to see him get beat. We would be lucky to see another horse try for the triple crown and it would have been really special to see him win as I really feel he was definitely the best horse in the race.

[@mississippijin]

do you still think he was poorly ridden in light of the fact with all that al zoroni corruption we know know about

[@wildernesstraining1957]

Someone’s in for a bollocking!!

[@FORESTDONS]

I disagree with the word good because nijinsky was and will always be one of the great horse to win the triple crown:P He won the leger on a canter and camelot would be at least 6 length behind him even if piggott was onboard camelot.

[@reallytalldwarf]

dettori is confirmed to ride camelot

[@NikoHL]

Joseph O Brien cost Camelot legendary status. Very sad...

[@civicand86]

OMG!!!! it is very regretabble. i did not want you to lose here.

[@MarkRobertCuthbert]

yes j.p.o'brien is a joke - a pony event rider - Q. did he ever ride in pony races? he's no Michael Kinane - watch all Sea The Stars races Mick rode them brilliantly.

[@dfksmk1]

Denied the triple crown by yet another totally inept ride by O'brien!

[@julie-annquayle3877]

Denied by a Drug Cheat.

[@MrStripYourGirl]

Barzalona is a beast!

[@999LDS]

At odds of 2/5 it was well worth doing an outsider e/w so did Encke and Thomas Chppendale £25 e/w . Get innnnnnnnnnnn !!! Godolphin nags seem to get better as the season goes on , sad Cecils nag didnt sun into a place.

[@richfairclough123]

999LDS.., in this era godophins improved over the season as the steroid induced muscle growth reached its peak. The conclusion that Sheik Mohammed knew nothing about it, is obviously complete rubbish. The fella probably didn’t know ‘his people’ kidnapped his own daughter either. His presence in British racing is a disgrace, while the Queen accepting horses as gifts from such a person, is clear indictment of the acceptance of criminality by the British monarchy.

[@nightowl7459]

No disrespect to Camelot, he was clearly a decent horse in a very moderate generation, he was beaten on the day by the better horse who stayed the 14 furlongs better than he did.

[@julie-annquayle3877]

His trainer later convicted of Drugging horses.

[@nightowl7459]

@@julie-annquayle3877 Yeah, but that horse that beat him was found to be clean, the fact is Camelot he really wasn't that good as his races afterwards proved.

[@73KHS]

RIP Encke 10-14-14, you were not to blame for your connections stupidity.

[@losarman]

Not often I agree with you but I think you´re right on this one. Even though the word is that he was injured as he went into the stalls. Expect a report tomorrow.I think it was his near hind. Well done Ballydoyle for trying. The arabs funked it with Nashwan as did the owners of Sea The Stars

[@diesis]

agree - Nashwan would be one of the all time greats if they had run him in St Leger now we think he was just a great horse which is something different. Appreciate the Arc is a great win to have on your CV but personally a TC is more important as you can always come back the next year to win the Arc and even if you try in the same year you always have the 3 week excuse. I had the privilege to watch Oh So Sharp win the TC in 85, also went to watch Camelot do the same but he was beaten by a poor ride and some drugs, here is hoping i can watch Love go for it in September!

[@therobbieunited]

Camelot had ever chance to win the race but was simply not good enough on the day,i would say his best trip is 1m1/2 which means his is not seen at his best over 1m6?he was travelling great just behind the winner but didn't have the same burst of speed we know he has at a 1m 1/2,you can see the way his head was up high that he was not himself,don't underestimate the trip being a factor,encke is a fast improving horse and at this trip he proved himself to be top class,blaming job is ridiculous !

[@ChongEdSpot]

Camelot....good horse...bad ride..and got too much whipping in the last few meters.. :(

[@kevinmunday5782]

camelot should have won, but the horses he beat as a 3yo, and then his subsequent form it wouldnt be right for him to be a triple crown winner. nijinsky would have beaten the 3yo's of 2012...on the bridle....

[@nightowl7459]

Kevin Munday: Absolutely, I think Camelots four group 1 wins were against extremely poor quality opposition, and when he met older horses in the Arc he got put in his place, he doesn't deserve to be mentioned with the likes of Nijinsky and other triple crown winners, lefts not forget that Nijinsky won the King George inbetween the Irish Derby and the St Leger.

[@kevinmunday5782]

@@nightowl7459 Exactly

[@MarkRobertCuthbert]

The joc. on the winner is the next Frankie. brilliant. M.B. won that race. Switch the Joc.'s Camelot would have won by a length or more. But the form of that winning horse he should have been backed EW. Never out of the first three.

[@Cloughjordan23]

Well he hasn't become the next Frankie!

[@Cloughjordan23]

That's if you are still alive 11 years later to see my smart arsenal reply!

[@therobbieunited]

@postcardterry i stopped reading when you called me an idiot so i don't have a reply !

[@sarsfield7]

alright, nijinski is a legend, i am still pissed at lester piggott over his ride in the prix de larc. sassafras should never have beaten nijinski lester was much yo confident.and with todays horses the st. leger is too far for the way horses are bred these days, i also think that aiden o brien was after all 5 classics for his own selfish motive,and nijinski never had the benefit of pacemakers that aob uses.

[@johne5727]

beat a french group 2 winner by 10 lenghs suppose that dont count still16 points higher than any other horse french german or japanesse

[@FORESTDONS]

Well,everyone know nijinsky was asked too much at the arc after a long season but the fact that a horse like camelot who has beaten nobody to be crowned the triple crown winner and compared to the great nijinsky by some people is crazy.I am glad camelot did fail because he might have been the most lousiest of triple crown winner.STS would have been much more worthier winner had he ran in the leger but the master craftsman john oxx knows better.

[@Jimboh25]

The 3 yo's this season are average at best, befor today, Camelot had beat 26 horses this season and all together those 26 horses had won 5 other races. Thats not good form. And as for Frankel, you only have to look at what hes beat. Through form lines he hes pretty much beat every horse in europe. Do your research befor posting such a stupid comment.

[@FORESTDONS]

I am hoping so much AOB will be going to the arc with camelot so that he will be beaten again to show how mediocre the horse is and as jimboh25 said the 3 yo's this season is only average.At first i thought it was the jockey's mistake to not get going earlier but after watching the race over and over again i believe the winner is too good on the day.You just have a look at encke and how accelerated everytime he was whiped and for camelot the response was not that good from the horse.

[@MarkRobertCuthbert]

well said. an 18 yo. joc. how many years of riding Group 1 races has he?? he's no Lester Piggot never will be has a racing brain.

[@johne5727]

what did he do too st nicholas abbey the one rated higher than camelot frankel 140+ st nich126 camelot 124 lol mmmm

[@richfairclough123]

I normally rate Joesph; but this was a brain fade. So much faith in the horse he gave him too much to do. Should have given him the beans as soon as he got space in the straight. Must be difficult when you know you’re riding the best horse... added to that who knows what drugs Encke was on.. probably whacked out to the nines on goofballs, given what we found out about the Godolphin operation subsequently. The blame was placed entirely on the trainer, but when they do anything right everyone says how Sheik Mohammed tucks the horses in at night..

[@richardsquibb6995]

awful ride by joseph o'brien had every chance to go to the outside like in the derby but instead chose to go down the inside at doncaster of all places. camelot is a good horse and his 4yo career will show that but as for joseph i think he might never want to make a mistake like this again! the winner is a donkey got beaten by noble mission(frankels full brother although nothing like him.) the jockey on the other hand is world class even i have to admit that.

[@vaughnthomas9774]

all hype camelot was, glad it got bit. at least it leave us to praise frankel more for being well and truly better than anything today and that has ever been

[@tropicalfishman26]

bargain i ha encke 33/1 obriens horses badly out of form today. joseph obrien is getting to cockey waited to long on camelot because he thought he won the race before they left the gates

[@gwilson9349]

denied the triple crown by a winner on steroids wont stand for too long...the whole of racing stands condemned over this issue.

[@mississippijin]

yes your dead right we got robbed by them fucking sewer rats goodolphin

[@uhegbu]

If you take the winner out of this, Camelot could have emulated Nijinsky, the star horse of 1970.

[@nightowl7459]

@@uhegbu But unlike Nijinsky Camelot beat opposition that were slower than cart horses, he doesn't deserve to be on the same page as Nijinsky.

[@nightowl7459]

@@mississippijin Get over it, he was beaten by a better horse that stayed the St Leger distance, Camelot didn't deserve the Triple Crown.

[@brownmouse100]

how come the obrians always fuck up good horses the had a real good horse in so you think but the never listened to the trainer who had him before they ran him on dirt and on synthic surfaces and though they knew best well they know jack shit only way they win races are with pace makers or the buy ready made good horses

[@Jimboh25]

And also, Frankel has never "ducked" the arc, he was never even entered in the race. And the reason Frankel hasnt run over 14 furlongs like Camelot is because he probably wouldnt stay. He is a miler, its like asking Black Caviar to run 14 furlongs.

[@Jimboh25]

Through form lines Frankel has the beating of pretty much every horse in europe. No matter what you say, its fact.

[@Jimboh25]

If you go back far enough hes even beat STS, STS lost to Black Bear Island, BBI lost to Cavalryman, Cavalryman has been beat by St Nicholas Abbey who has been beat by Frankel. I know its pretty desperate but form is there for all to see. (and yes it was in STS maiden so im clutching at straws here, but still.) Classics are only races at the end of the day, winning a classic doesn't make a great horse.

[@ashali2129]

Very poor ride bye the jockey on camalot too confidence and careless ride not the best ride at all a normal comedian person could of ride this horse and win in good style