Camera Movement and the Dana Dolly!

Camera Movement and the Dana Dolly!
Comment below your videos you've used dolly shots! For the next week I'll be watching and commenting on them! :)
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[@jackbo1037]

Hey Devin, could you make a video explaining how you maintain perfect focus throughout your action scenes? settings, tips and tricks, preferred cameras/lenses, and most frequent problems you experience in the field regarding camera focus.

[@everestproductionstx]

YES PLEASE!!

[@Sysel.]

*Hey Devin, could you make video explaining differences in using IMAX, 35mm and digital cameras? I would really love to know... :)*

[@NicolasWaldvogel]

Sysel I know I'm not Devin but I'm studying film atm in London and have worked with film and digital cinema cameras so hopefully I can help you out. The main difference is basically this: The size of the sensor/film print . With 35mm and IMAX (I'm assuming you mean Imax FILM and not digital), each frame of an Imax film roll is 70mm big, so double the size of a normal 35 mm negative (used to be the standard on pretty much all Hollywood movies before digital took over) and therefore, a much higher resolution that is captured on IMAX. The aspect ratio on IMAX is also different. With digital cinema cameras, its the same principle but instead of an actual film roll, you capture the image onto a sensor like with a DSLR. Different cameras have different sized sensors like 35, full frame or 65 mainly. Like with film, the bigger the sensor, the higher the quality of the image that is captured. Other factors play into it of course like the bitrate, build of the sensor, color science etc. In terms of resolution as of today, the Imax 70mm format is still by far the highest resolution format available with up to 14K resolution (compared to a Red Weapon for example that shoots up to 8K). Also, 35 and 70mm film just have a completely different look than digital. There is more of a texture to the image and generally is not as crisp and clean as digital. There is much more to learn about the differences but these are some of the main ones. ;)

[@Sysel.]

Thank you :) Well, than i would rather like video from Davin not explaining, but telling what he thinks about using one over the other and so on... (Btw. I went and watched your shortfilm on youtube... very cool :D )

[@PresidentialFilm]

Well 70mm 15 perf IMAX is roughly 10 times larger than 35mm. So you'd get a much shallower depth of field, even wider shots, and separation from your subject from the background. This chart sums up everything rather nicely: phfx.com/tools/dpThing_philsSensorChart/phfx_philsSensorChart.png Kindof like the differences between a s35 crop sensor/film to full frame/Vista Vision (but they still are much smaller than 70mm 15 perf) Still to this day nothing can touch IMAX in terms of resolution. Theoretically it's a 18k photochemical scan, films like the Dark Knight did a 8k/6k scan for the DI. And that's obviously not a Bayer Pattern like today's CMOS cameras. Like how a "4k" camera after it's debayered is more or less a 3.2k camera. That's a discussion in itself. Also 70mm 15 perf is loaded vertically in the camera, compared to 65mm which is horizontal. And IMAX is incredibly loud, so recording audio isn't ideal, let alone the huge size of the cameras (generally with a 3 minute magazine of 70mm IMAX film it could weigh over 60lbs. at the minimum)

[@NicolasWaldvogel]

Sysel no worries man, yeah you have to see it to really understand it I think. Theres a lot of great articles and videos on the web explaining this stuff. Would also be curious to hear Devins thoughts though. Haha I made that film quite a while ago but thanks for the compliment, appreciate it!

[@thebolivianguy64]

That shot of the guy before the violin girl is so amazing...

[@hellopsp180]

i love the analysis

[@Finn_Clifton]

Thank you! I always learn so much from you! I've just released my first one minute film to KZbin and want to do what you do one day. I've been inspired by your use of the glidecam and often use them, but for this one I played with the stillness in the camera to create an impact. I'd really love to know what you think of it and I accept the challenge to create a dolly shot this week!

[@schase10353]

Love love love this series!!!! Thank you, Devin!

[@lukesheveland9016]

I remember when you did a whole set of tutorials for a while; you’ve really improved your tutorial-making! This was really solid! I’m not a filmmaker, but I love to learn and this was really interesting

[@willhikearizona]

Who needs to pay for a "Master Class" when you have it down. Nice work.

[@mikehall2322]

That's Huge! Great video, excellent way to tell the story. Oh, and the Dana is used on everything from the new Avatar and Marvel films to every day corporate videos. We love to see how it's used. Cool post. M

[@NBrunins]

Thanks Devin for a great video! Sometimes it’s great just to refresh some knowledge or just to see it from different perspective!

[@WarpedPerception]

Actually I have met Steven once, he doesn't have a science he goes with his gut, that's where the magic comes from. By the way do you have the S35 sensor or the VV? .( Edited because voice to text doesn't understand my accent).

[@RedBlockFX]

Doing awesome stuff and very informative! thanks! keep making these!

[@steward6877]

5:55 was indeed an amazing shot.

[@seanlehmann4235]

Great video, I love learning from you.

[@YamRaj]

Damn, time to do a dolly shot so Devin can see it.

[@TylerLeeKenyon]

The dana dolly is the exact same type of gear as the Kessler dolly you did a video on recently, how do they compare in your eyes?

[@empireofjehovah7129]

Can a dolly forward movement have a rack focus effect? I'm thinking if you dolly with the focus frame the same, the focus area will move with the dolly, and the original subject moving out of the focus frame will blur as the new subject comes into focus.

[@josebodon2995]

awesome devin thank you.

[@WyvernApalis]

Making a video promoting my school, don't think I will use this XD Although I think I will put this in the Grade 12 graduation video, thanks for this tip!

[@ItsAndrewM]

Do you prefer the Dana Dolly or the Kessler Shuttle Dolly?

[@MexicanMovie]

Look up the Doug Dolly here on youtube, it's the best and also a great price !!!

[@ghostlyvlogs8456]

Love the video Devin. This is like the type of projects I want to work on when I grow up

[@ToddJasonFilms]

I was looking at the Dana dolly and the Kessler shuttle dolly, but I couldn’t afford those thousand dollar equipment. So I built my own version of the Dana dolly and shuttle dolly for like $200 most. Same dimensions, same size pipes for tracks and it works just as well. I used it on my last short film and they were beautiful shots

[@jas_bataille]

Could you make a tutorial about it? :D

[@ToddJasonFilms]

Jas Bataille I could

[@samuelguce]

""hey mom" hahah

[@EdUrichPanFlute]

Thanks for the information Devin I learned a lot from you

[@matthewlivingston3168]

I used a skate board. And pulled a rug with my tripod. I have saved up and I finally purchased my very own dana dolly kit with speed rail. My filmmaker friends will rent it from me.

[@GiTxSHuM]

I have done a lot of dolly shots to reveal characters and location or setup, but the best and greatest I recommend is Woody Allen’s Hannah and Her sisters. The restaurant scene was the best dolly shot keeping it in a circle around the three sisters. Now what makes it great was they never have Lee in the shots together with Hannah and Holly because Lee created this tension or a mistake she has made and regrets and does not feel comfortable. So I thought the cinematographer had to capture the great separation. One great example of the dolly shot. A lot of great movies out there as well. But this is a simple example for anyone reading it.

[@dh1163]

Hey... good stuff. Great advice about not overusing dolly shots. Camera movement should add to, supplement, and/or underscore emotional content.

[@OffTheDomeMediaGroup]

Great video and advice.

[@aguynamedme7760]

Hi Devin, I also think David Fincher is a really good example of how to use camera movement. I love these more story telling type of videos. I find it fascinating how much of the story is told to you through each element of film making that people never thing about. Lately I have been trying to step up my sound game and use panning sound to make the audience feel more like they are there. I would really like to see you talk about the dolly zoom, if you are open to requests right now. I have always found it to be such a powerful shot since I first saw it back in Jaws. that one is a bit more difficult to do from what I have heard, but I cant confirm since I have never done one successfully.

[@rupal_hs]

Definitely will use in next project ✌🏽

[@lukabosnjak3036]

Great vid and a lot of to learn in it

[@javihdigital1774]

Devin, thanks a lot

[@IM_IsaacMartin]

Thanks for this

[@amerkhan178]

Thanks devin

[@AliexFolgueira]

Awesome video, mire like this pls

[@LostSasquatch]

Challenge accepted. Hey Devin, what are your thoughts on dolling with a drone? Too dangerous? haha I think it could work if shot in 4k and digitally zoomed to match 1080. Then use the drone to slowly push in? could be safer to push out then reverse the footage? but maybe the facial expressions wont look right?

[@abhayanand62]

You are amazing

[@lechnerproductions9208]

Hey, just wanted to know if you are selling your old lenses ? or the sigma lenses since you got the leicas now?

[@timmycat3641]

Hi Devin, can you make an updated version of how to setup and use the Glidecam?

[@loganhunt8029]

What is there to update?

[@AriHD]

Very interesting. Keep on going mate!

[@jimeluk6697]

i love it

[@zBoOnerAwSoMeStPeEps]

Why did this not pop up in my subscription list? :(

[@jonathanalfred446]

Jurassic Park my love 😍

[@nikleiser5888]

The Ginger is from Moviemaniacs=cutest thing ever and also german.

[@johanfelix1]

Insane!!

[@Omkar111100]

QUESTION Hey, could Scaling in an Editing software work?

[@missionaryfilmmaker2600]

You the man

[@Paul-vr4ic]

Heya, what was that video with the girl playing the violon ?

[@lucas.f1532]

Well, i woud use a dolly shot, but i dont have a camera cause it got stolen👌 Im planning to get the gh 5 and thanh do a Dolly Movement Film, ill link here but i think its gonna be too late...😅 Greets from Switzerland

[@mimoreque1805]

What's the difference between a push-in vs a digital zoom in post edit? Does it really worth the hassle?

[@jas_bataille]

Oh absolutely! Two very different thing. A zoom is *not* a push-in, traveling or dolly shot. A zoom change the focal length of the lense (or fake changing it in post) whereas in the shots mentioned here, you *physically move the camera itself*. That changes everything. A zoom doesn't feel like one of the above mentioned shots at all.... and, a push is really simple to do! If you don't have a dolly, you can take two long PVC pipes (costing next to nothing) and a cheap skateboard. Put a monopod on top and in a fixture attached to said skateboard... there you go! And if you doesn't think than this is worth the "hassle"... then my friend, you'll never be making movies. Sorry.

[@mimoreque1805]

Jas Bataille thanks for taking the time ro respond. Makes much sense. Best regards.

[@IsaacAbunu]

If you said Tarantino, Nolan, or Scorese I would have agreed with you.

[@josephilip2136]

Great

[@Timeside..]

after jurassic shit i just subscribed so true all the way from uganda..

[@mohammedabobakr6549]

can you show us some of your work or even link it to to us]

[@verfilmt6196]

Hey Devin, this is the link to our latest Video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHymc6KMbM11bNk We actually didn't take the shots with a real dolly but we tried our best. We hope you enjoy :)

[@TheMorefield]

I never used a dolly shot but will soon. I'm a small time film maker and a huge fan of you guys. Can you please let me know what you think of my work? I have money and am willing to fly you out for something fun to work with me on. Stay connected:)

[@loganhunt8029]

the Morefield this will never happen. Sorry man

[@denis5855]

Have you checked out RON HOWARD'S MASTERCLASS??

[@Stormskiing]

How do you know that Spielberg doesn't use a zoom lens instead of a dolly? Just curious.

[@ethans.3147]

It has to do with something called perspective distortion that comes from the distance of your camera to the target object. In short, being closer to an object makes it become more 3D, for example, a persons nose will stick out from their face. The longer you are away from the object, the more it becomes compressed, and the less it becomes 3D. It works the same way with your eyes, too. I would suggest you Google and do a bit of reading up on the theory to understand it better. So going back, if I dollied in to my target, there would be a gradual change in the distance of the camera to the target, thereby gradually changing my perspective distortion, and 3Dness. If I just zoomed in or cropped in in post, there would be no change in the distance of my camera to the subject, thereby causing no change in perspective distortion. Plus, dollying in causes other objects in the scene to move as well, whereas cropping or zooming in doesn't make them move. Hope that explanation helps.

[@Hangs4Fun]

Look up parallax. A zoom is 2D and a dolly camera movement is more 3D, with new things coming into perespective throughout the movement, especially with panning dolly slides with something in the foreground to really show the parallax better.

[@jaouaddahbi01]

Niiiice

[@belugastudios4770]

QUISTION what if instead of a dolly shot, I just zoom in on a character???

[@micahbettenhausen3932]

zooming compresses the background, and the dolly shot doesn't, instead it pulls the subject in. look up dolly shots and zoom shots online and see the difference. also, in high production film, they use prime lenses and not zoom lenses.

[@loganhunt8029]

Beluga Studios paralaxing

[@jas_bataille]

As MB said, a zoom is a completely different effect. A zoom is not a push-in, traveling or dolly shot. A zoom change the focal length of the lense (or fake changing it in post) whereas in the shots mentioned here, you *physically move the camera itself*. That changes everything. A zoom doesn't feel like one of the above mentioned shots at all.... and, a push is really simple to do! If you don't have a dolly, you can take two long PVC pipes (costing next to nothing) and a cheap skateboard. Put a monopod on top and in a fixture attached to said skateboard... there you go!

[@belugastudios4770]

Jas Bataille ok, thanks

[@TomBolles]

I built a dolly system for my most recent film. Here's a clip from Day 1 of production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3ywooBtYpxmqc0 It's a DIY skateboard dolly with PVC rails. Super smooth!

[@iggyking1236]

I have been doing somme of them but I didin't use enything so it didin't look good

[@adrian_stanescu]

high five

[@elliotlovgren2031]

I tried to make one but failed miserably it was so sad I couldn't drill through the rails on the dolly after buying everything i needed

[@sweetkellymay]

I tried a dollyshot with my camera affixed to the top of a Denali, I almost killed Jennifer Aniston.. Just kidding, love your videos....

[@h.hanithavarsini1704]

Devin what is the difference between 4k resolution in red camera and mobile or phone

[@InfectedSolitude]

Great stuff, but I really don't know why they call this a Dolly.. the whole point of a Dolly is to be able to boom up and down. This is more of a slider.

[@jas_bataille]

Michael, what you're talking about is actually a jib. A dolly is a wheeled cart : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_dolly You can use a dolly to better control traveling, push-in, pull-back and sliding shots, among other things. With all due respect, I'm a pro, Devin is a better pro, and we know what a dolly is... You're making a mistake... sorry. But no worries :) On a side note, if you wanna get in this industry, always start from the principle that you ignore almost everything. Because, again with due respect, when you start, it's true. I stil ignore most of what this game is all about. ;)

[@Shawn1127]

How much money of a videographer

[@harshpatel6431]

on IMAC PRO PLEASE!!!!!!!

[@21Strings]

Love these videos Devin. After your call to action my daughter (balloon girl) and I took the weekend to record, shoot, and edit a music video start to finish. Used a skateboard and some homemade rails to get some nice smooth 50mm dolly shots. Thanks for the inspiration! here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGbIdayEbZ11o5o

[@onelifetopmusicchannel2565]

Please

[@lesterchong1405]

:D

[@PaulMayorga]

I used the slider dolley alittle different in this video but ive used this konova slider for many car events and different videos but heres one example of me using it kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHTVk3-rqcxrr9E

[@RockstarBruski]

Paul Mayorga nice variety of shots. Cheers! 😎

[@PaulMayorga]

RockstarBruski thanks!! Appreciate the feedback!

[@deejayohdumb]

Devin, here is my most recent video. I didn’t use a dolly to get a dolly shot, but tried using a monopod to get the same effect. I have a fluid head on it so I started with the monopod tilted back and pushed it towards my daughter using the fluid head to keep the shot as even as possible. Tried hard to get that dolly look. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4Wmd5d_nNaWiMU

[@peterd5843]

see and fill what christian is filling.

[@ASAKI7316]

First !!

[@ChrisBrits]

Here's a short film we recently made, first short film project we've successfully completed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6eYe4ueh6abl5I

[@onelifetopmusicchannel2565]

Hy men Hindi speaking u

[@hugobrand6196]

It is pronounced escape not ecscape. Same as especially and not ecspecially.

[@MelvinDlaCruz]

Just a question my friend you have all this gear all the different technique why you don't do a real movie????? I see so many movies always on the Oscars make with way less equipment while you have. I just say for you have all this equipment you don't do anything interesting. Remember it's not about the equipment it's about the story. I know you can make a movie, challenge yourself to do something good I want to see you in a bit scream with something incredible, I don't try to push you but I really believe in you and I know you can do better.

[@jonaschmidt9275]

MelvinDlaCruz i doubt that you see many Oscar nominated films with less equipment

[@darkceptor44]

I think that build up is just annoying, I would skip a few seconds.

[@fabiann89]

Why not just use zoom... BS and waste of money

[@yudi.g9544]

Fabian Skrabuła You cant fake a dolly shot because of the paralaxing and it would basicly look like a fake crop in and you wont see the different perspective of the 3d objects

[@wtfsajaytee]

Fabian Skrabuła LOL

[@Hangs4Fun]

Um.... parallax, hello...

[@MrSmoothvideos]

Ummm so many things wrong with what you've. As mentioned 1. paralaxing. 2. You can't zoom horizontally or vertically! 3. And your field of view will change and unless you have an expensive lens, 4. so will your aperture!

[@ianzakka]

You haven't learn cinematography then