Camila explains the stalker story in full

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Neurosoda

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@bebop_557
@bebop_557 24 күн бұрын
Firearms instructor here. Camila made the right choice by staying put and choosing to hunker down. Trying to clear your own home is a TREMENDOUSLY stupid idea. Moving to a defensible place and digging in was the smart thing to do. This is exactly what I teach in my classes, Camila's dad taught her well. Because he didn't just teach her how to shoot- he taught her how to think rationally under stress.
@Omicron9999
@Omicron9999 23 күн бұрын
Yep. It's a dumb idea because you don't know who or how many intruders might potentially be in your house, or whether they're armed with something worse than a pen knife. Even though you know your own home like the back of your hand, it's easy to get blindsided by someone hiding around a doorway or in darkness. That's not even getting into what can happen if you're nervously checking for any sign of movement and then someone you know walks in the room.
@bebop_557
@bebop_557 23 күн бұрын
@@Omicron9999 Absolutely this, but also Camila was protecting her grandmother (which was a very brave thing for her to do). She didn't spend time trying to clear rooms, just sprinted directly towards her grandma and they hunkered down together. That is what you're supposed to do. Keyboard warriors can criticize Camila all they want to, but people like you who actually know what they're talking about? We know Camila did everything right and she acted very brave in the situation. As far as the other stuff goes? It's a good thing that the stalker had no idea what he was doing, because you don't use a sledgehammer on a garage door. You use it to smash the handle off a door (like the front door of the house) or smash a window (you don't hit the center of the window because that is the strongest part- you hit the edge of the glass). As far as hardening your home against invaders, some of the simplest things you can do is 3" case hardened screws for your doorframe and 3M makes a coating for your windows that will protect them from getting smashed in. These are things anybody can buy with a quick trip to the hardware store and it won't cause any issues with an HOA.
@annojance
@annojance 23 күн бұрын
Very wise. It's a last resort to protect yourself from the worst case, not a means to escalate things.
@jonnyxquest
@jonnyxquest 23 күн бұрын
Yes and no. Obviously you don't "clear your house," You're not John Wick. My bedroom is a defensible position, but that's not where I'm staying, I'm moving to my children's rooms. Though for her it was the best decision, If you live alone, hunker down.
@bebop_557
@bebop_557 23 күн бұрын
@@jonnyxquest She doesn't live alone. She lives with family and got her grandma immediately, going to a pre-planned safe room.
@CatroiOz
@CatroiOz 26 күн бұрын
Bro not only traumatized her but was THIS close to get popped all because of his delusions
@StarHeaven07
@StarHeaven07 26 күн бұрын
I'm glad it didn't come down to that. Being forced into taking a life would be another layer of trauma on top of what she's already going through. A different kind of anguish, but no less horrible.
@MarcelloThe1st
@MarcelloThe1st 25 күн бұрын
@@StarHeaven07 That's why we have cops.
@thumpg
@thumpg 25 күн бұрын
@@MarcelloThe1st which could take 5 to 30 minutes to get to you
@whydidyoutubeaddthis
@whydidyoutubeaddthis 25 күн бұрын
​@@thumpgTry 2 to 5000
@budgetcommander4849
@budgetcommander4849 25 күн бұрын
@@MarcelloThe1stWhat a horrible fucking time to try and make an argument about policing.
@k1nk1ne
@k1nk1ne 27 күн бұрын
"it's ok, she's my friend" he said while trying to break in with a sledge hammer
@feo_san
@feo_san 26 күн бұрын
Finding a new friend with a GPS tracker is always an exciting adventure!
@stagiestpizza
@stagiestpizza 26 күн бұрын
just a harmless prank between bros, bro. don't act like you haven't done it before.
@guerreiroazul3230
@guerreiroazul3230 26 күн бұрын
I genuinely don't understand what goes on in these people's minds. What do they think is going to happen if they break in their house with a sledgehammer.
@LG_Official.
@LG_Official. 26 күн бұрын
@@stagiestpizza I do it everytime bro doesn't get on the game after 5 minutes.
@calebm9000
@calebm9000 26 күн бұрын
@@guerreiroazul3230 They're sick in the head, you can't rationalize it.
@linuxares
@linuxares 27 күн бұрын
This is why Hololive don't accept gifts anymore. Because of freaking tracking tags...
@filipemsferreira
@filipemsferreira 27 күн бұрын
shit, never even thought of that
@Somerandompokemon
@Somerandompokemon 27 күн бұрын
I remember why markiplier doesnt accept gifts anymore either. Someone sent him a freaking taxidermic animal.. And that person got upset because mark was startled
@XxInfinityxXTimer
@XxInfinityxXTimer 27 күн бұрын
@@Somerandompokemon Man what happened to the old days where youtubers and internet celebrity receiving fan letter and gifts. I missed the day where they could just open their fan gift and letter freely like what smosh did
@Speedkomodo
@Speedkomodo 27 күн бұрын
that as not the reason. They literally recieved warehouse level of amounts of gift packages. Trackers arent an issue because those are easily found with covers hq as an intermediary for the packages. The issue in that specific case at hololive was a genuinely wasteful amount of stuff being sent. We're not talking fanmail but just random boxes of stuff.
@blindn1nj4
@blindn1nj4 27 күн бұрын
@@XxInfinityxXTimer This shit has been happening before the internet was even around. The problem is when they become too famous then the chances of a psycho being a fan increase.
@Simat_0
@Simat_0 26 күн бұрын
Dude came with a sledgehammer and then proceeded to tell the police it was okay because ''she was her friend''. I hope he gets a prolonged visit in jail, he clearly had a plan.
@zeldamon4420
@zeldamon4420 26 күн бұрын
Most likely will as not only did he try to break in with a sledgehammer, he adimtted to using a GPS tracker.(Which is a Major violation of Privacy in the U.S.)
@rifleman1002
@rifleman1002 26 күн бұрын
​@@zeldamon4420it's also a federal crime.
@Simat_0
@Simat_0 22 күн бұрын
@@oesntdatterm9548 not funny pretty traumatic for her in fact, were did you pull that info from and what the fuck is that even supposed to mean ? That her stalker was of Muslim faith ? That I am ? 'cause I'm not.
@oesntdatterm9548
@oesntdatterm9548 22 күн бұрын
@Simat_0 yeah you definitely are, and their name and junk was released. Who said it was funny? Your culture is fked up. Not anyone else's fault.
@sword_67
@sword_67 22 күн бұрын
@@oesntdatterm9548careful there pal your racism is showing, also pretty funny to lump in an entire group to the actions of one guy, by your logic we should call every black person a criminal because of how many commit crimes right?
@LegallyGreen
@LegallyGreen 27 күн бұрын
it's scary knowing that he was just an ordinary viewer at some point, even scarier knowing one day he'll be watching this clip
@14AKIREeeee
@14AKIREeeee 27 күн бұрын
did someone know who he is?
@ronaldadrianhuamaniulco7544
@ronaldadrianhuamaniulco7544 27 күн бұрын
​@@14AKIREeeeeunfortunately, no
@goldblood8471
@goldblood8471 27 күн бұрын
Yep, that's gonna happen soon
@14AKIREeeee
@14AKIREeeee 27 күн бұрын
@@goldblood8471 does restraining order works?
@MDG-mykys
@MDG-mykys 27 күн бұрын
Do we know he was one? Do we know he's watching?
@superbloxian502
@superbloxian502 27 күн бұрын
"he had a sledgehammer" what the fuck
@AtomixTiger
@AtomixTiger 26 күн бұрын
I bet he wouldn't even know how to use it. I bet he would swing, miss and take an hour to pick it up again because he's a fvcking idiot. I want to berate this guy as much as possible
@thesaddestdude3575
@thesaddestdude3575 26 күн бұрын
Im so happy shes okay for now
@bradleybarnett1469
@bradleybarnett1469 25 күн бұрын
@@thesaddestdude3575they threw his ass in jail, she’s safe
@BlazeLibra
@BlazeLibra 25 күн бұрын
Those things are one of the most terrifying weapons to see
@AtomixTiger
@AtomixTiger 25 күн бұрын
@BlazeLibra except if they miss and don't have good technique. Kind of an issue when you spend 5 seconds picking up a weapon
@BoraAria
@BoraAria 27 күн бұрын
sound's like the first time he did it was to verify she lived there. had made as loud a noise as possible for her mic and stream to pick it up, likely watching when he did it. I'm so sorry this happened to her. this must have been such a nightmare.
@Chas-OTE
@Chas-OTE 25 күн бұрын
That is some twisted shit, and very highly likely. Man I really feel for Camila, specially considering how, just a few weeks ago, she posted that sound bite on twitter about how happy she was to see her dad smile. That one random tweet made me pretty happy and now THIS happens to her... I hope that psycho rots in prison.
@Gencinnamon245
@Gencinnamon245 22 күн бұрын
This makes it sound like this person wanted to know where she lived so he could tell it to his friends If that’s the case, then what in the hell is wrong with people? Like you got to meet the person you liked. Good for you. You want a fucking medal for scaring and traumatizing this poor innocent woman?
@RomeoGarlett
@RomeoGarlett 17 күн бұрын
​@@Chas-OTEthat's what I'm saying I hope he rotts in prison dude
@dodsa8907
@dodsa8907 14 күн бұрын
​@@Gencinnamon245 schizos like this don't think rationally, it happens awfully often in Japan too sadly, the guy is just a delulu who thinks they have a "special bond" or some kind of connection to the other person so they feel entitled to doing anything to them when they don't recieve attention, it could just be a chatter whose message Camimi read out loud on stream or just some comment she liked on twitter and thought "omg she read my message I must be special" or some shit like that and then degenarated as time went on with him thinking "why isn't she reading/liking my comments anymore", whats crazy is to think people like that exist and are out there and that you could meet one of them without even knowing, shit's scary as fuck
@Potatoe-f6u
@Potatoe-f6u 27 күн бұрын
Horrifying that in that moment she muted the mic thinking about the things that might happen and not wanting others to hear it.
@chisaki703
@chisaki703 26 күн бұрын
It breaks my heart that she was so scared but still wanted to make sure the viewers wouldn't get traumatized...imagine hearing something horrific happen and not being able to do anything
@Chas-OTE
@Chas-OTE 25 күн бұрын
@@chisaki703 That act alone says a lot about her character. She put a bunch of us internet randos on her chat first before herself without even thinking about the situation. And it was during a potentially life threatening situation no less! I hate that this happened to her...
@memorydatas
@memorydatas 27 күн бұрын
i met camila at weebcon 2024 and while my interaction w/ her was very brief and focused more on neuro (this was during the filian/vedal/neuro collab stream), she could tell how nervous i was and she was SO goddamn nice to me that it makes me tear up whenever i watch the clip of it LMAO. just immediately treated me with kindness and excitement and made me feel happy about doing something i was terrified of doing! that moment really sticks out to me because of how sweet and positive she was when she didn't have to. no one deserves to deal with garbage like this, but i feel like it's especially so with her. hearing her fear is genuinely heartbreaking, especially when she says she muted her mic because she wouldn't want her viewers to hear anything if something did happen. i really hope that she's able to be safe and secure as soon as possible :(
@Zakru
@Zakru 26 күн бұрын
I generally only watch Camila through Neuro, so I didn't think I could get angrier at this lowlife fucker. You've proved me wrong.
@Kennot_B
@Kennot_B 26 күн бұрын
aww
@Cup-CakeCho-Colat
@Cup-CakeCho-Colat 24 күн бұрын
Aww yeah i really like her too even if i've Never met her IRL, but she's so nice and i Hope she'll be okay ❤
@Gypsy-Tongue
@Gypsy-Tongue 19 күн бұрын
Yeah she sounds really nice and I hope the move won’t be as stressful for her but it’s sad that she has to move because she loves her house and now all because of some crazy guy.
@anim1-21
@anim1-21 17 күн бұрын
wat a 2 faced bixxh. she bully and wants to deplatform another vtuber for clout. how "nice"
@Sybato
@Sybato 27 күн бұрын
I hope Camila talks this out with a professional too, because it sounds very traumatic. I hope she's able to get past this, I'd hate this to ruin the end of this year for her.
@seanwallace9269
@seanwallace9269 27 күн бұрын
I remember a few years ago Gavin free, of the slomo guys, and his now wife Meg Turney had a stalker break on and attempt to kill Gavin. Thankfully the police arrived before anything happened to them. They talked later about going to therapy for it and it helping. I am glad nothing happened here to her or her family. And hope she can get therapy if she needs it.
@maksrambe3812
@maksrambe3812 26 күн бұрын
​@@seanwallace9269what's crazy about that is that they hid when he came in and he thought they weren't there so he shot himself which is what the police later found.
@ResidentChef
@ResidentChef 25 күн бұрын
​@@seanwallace9269 I never knew about this. Holy crap
@CF-or3ci
@CF-or3ci 24 күн бұрын
I hope she doesn’t spend as much money on a therapist as she does on a lawyer.
@seanwallace9269
@seanwallace9269 24 күн бұрын
@CF-or3ci I doubt suing her stalker would be worth it. Unless he is wealthy, there is no point.
@chaoton
@chaoton 27 күн бұрын
This is why we can’t have good things. I’m glad she’s safe.
@voca-chan7953
@voca-chan7953 26 күн бұрын
I feel so bad for her. You can just hear the pain in her voice the whole time. And what kind of fucked up person would stalk a streamer with a sledgehammer? That guy traumatized her forever now.
@x._3347
@x._3347 26 күн бұрын
Yeah :(
@josephbulkin9222
@josephbulkin9222 18 күн бұрын
someone who hates vtubers.
@solarwuvsmoomei
@solarwuvsmoomei 17 күн бұрын
then he just starts claiming outta fucking nowhere: "b-bUt OfFiCeR!!! wE'rE jUsT fRiEnDs, iT's OkAy!!!! (´>∆
@nahelbeuk
@nahelbeuk 27 күн бұрын
Poor Camimi, this is awful. I hope she moves and can feel safe again.
@Nahid-zz7nj
@Nahid-zz7nj 27 күн бұрын
She's rich not poor 😂
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 27 күн бұрын
Poor in mentally way bruh ​@@Nahid-zz7nj
@thuan8782
@thuan8782 27 күн бұрын
@@Nahid-zz7nj Wtf are you talking about, what does that have to do with any of this
@nahelbeuk
@nahelbeuk 27 күн бұрын
@@thuan8782 Some people online are just as bad as the guy who attacked Camimi.
@goldblood8471
@goldblood8471 27 күн бұрын
​@@Nahid-zz7njwhat the hell are you talking about? That's not the point!
@Mettalus
@Mettalus 25 күн бұрын
The fact her iPhone tried to read out her location as she's describing all of the horrible things she just went through... It is just not her luck, man. She should really take a break and try to recover a bit.
@Rabid1
@Rabid1 26 күн бұрын
Important note about iPhones especially if you’re streaming. you can turn off location services for Siri. Settings ➡️privacy and security ➡️ location services➡️ Siri Also you can set Siri to answer silently when possible Settings➡️Accessibly ➡️ Siri
@SnacksInB4
@SnacksInB4 26 күн бұрын
Problems like that get solved way earlier if you get a proper device from a decent manufacturer that doesn't listen all the time or has simple DND settings.
@Archimedes.5000
@Archimedes.5000 26 күн бұрын
@@SnacksInB4so no manufacturer in the world?
@imtired927
@imtired927 26 күн бұрын
Get a better phone
@baul997
@baul997 26 күн бұрын
That's the problem cause the vtuber software for face tracking can apperantly be only used with iPhone
@VyraLove
@VyraLove 26 күн бұрын
@@SnacksInB4 This is all phones, though. Fun Fact, when you power your phone 'off', it's not actually off. it's still on. it is still tracking your location and listening to you. (for emergency purposes, but still.) If you want to FULLY power off your phone, you have to pull out the battery. Oh wait.
@kneonspace
@kneonspace 27 күн бұрын
You can here the trauma in her voice. Sad that some humans have to go so low. Hope Camilla will be ok mentally 😢.
@LaFonteCheVi
@LaFonteCheVi 26 күн бұрын
And people want to pretend women don't need men.
@wizkid5555
@wizkid5555 26 күн бұрын
@@LaFonteCheVi What does she need a man for? Such a weird comment.
@BobGreasen
@BobGreasen 26 күн бұрын
​@@LaFonteCheViI don't see how this is relevant. Are you saying she "needed a man to protect her" in that situation? I think it's quite obvious that wasn't the issue here and it's weird for you to make that the main point.
@pdd5793
@pdd5793 26 күн бұрын
​@@LaFonteCheVi bro she have a firearm...
@TheLucidChiba
@TheLucidChiba 26 күн бұрын
​@@LaFonteCheVi Brother a man was the problem.
@4pThorpy
@4pThorpy 27 күн бұрын
The knock on the window probably means they were watching the stream to make sure 100% they got the right house, if they knew the general area they may have just driven around and honked their horn a bit while watching and listening to see if they could hear it and pinpointed the general area...I wonder if he knocked on neighbour's windows too
@Sybato
@Sybato 27 күн бұрын
That makes me so mad, thinking of him not only doing what he did to Camila and her family, but also potentially to her neighbors.
@maksrambe3812
@maksrambe3812 26 күн бұрын
Honking the horn is completely impractical here, if he was doing that for a while a lot of people would notice him and she probably has sound insulation and a filter so it's not likely that it would even get picked up and he would know that. The tracking device is also going to be more accurate than this method anyway.
@NaoNakashima
@NaoNakashima 25 күн бұрын
He probably wanted to see her "funny" reaction on stream.
@SEThatered
@SEThatered 22 күн бұрын
@@maksrambe3812 1. 4chan located a flag of shia la beouf by honking and listening to a stream 2. An asmr artist was located through honking horn near her location while live streaming 3. A COD streamer had uninvited guests who recognised their own car horn on stream (just drunk fools though, nothing criminal) And these ones I just happen to know. It happened. Soundproof your stream room if you can.
@cuebankrupt
@cuebankrupt 19 күн бұрын
​@maksrambe3812 are you a professional?😭should we be worried of you😭
@skipskip342
@skipskip342 26 күн бұрын
The phone doxxing out of nowhere was something else 😅
@compookiie
@compookiie 25 күн бұрын
Poor girl, irl jumpscare lol :(
@macdongr
@macdongr 22 күн бұрын
She literally just dealt with a stalker and the phone thought it would be funny to have a second one.
@Capanova-tf27
@Capanova-tf27 21 күн бұрын
And right after she was talking abt security too
@Karthikkun2805
@Karthikkun2805 16 күн бұрын
Top 10 reasons I want nothing to do with owning an iphone
@komi___
@komi___ 14 күн бұрын
The phone is probably hacked now, might do the same thing again if she doesn't get a new one.
@About9000
@About9000 24 күн бұрын
Is she getting therapy? that part where she muted her mic because she feared that something HORRIFIC was gonna happen to her just got to me... i want her to live without that kind of fear
@KekodaBunbun
@KekodaBunbun 24 күн бұрын
Man, her tearing up while saying, “I muted so you guys would be scared” was so sweet and so incredibly heartbreaking. She’s such a kind person that even when she was panicking, she still cared about her viewers in that moment. I hope she and her family will be okay after this 🫂💖
@ApolloVtuber
@ApolloVtuber 26 күн бұрын
After the police arrested him he kept on saying "She's my friend it's okay, she's my friend it's okay." like 1.She doesn't know you, and just one interaction doesn't make you friends. 2. Friends don't put tracking devices in gifts that in itself is a massive red flag and and is most likely illegal 3. Friends don't try to break into people's houses with sledgehammers
@jrtime228
@jrtime228 24 күн бұрын
I believe that is a correct assumption. I think tracking someone via GPS without their permission breaks privacy laws.
@CF-or3ci
@CF-or3ci 24 күн бұрын
@jrtime228 Hm. For some reason I also believe that sledge hamming someone’s privacy after tracking their location through a tracker is not legally ok. Weird🤔
@jayzenstyle
@jayzenstyle 24 күн бұрын
@@jrtime228 even between best friends, this tracker stuff ain't cool.
@necro-claud6370
@necro-claud6370 22 күн бұрын
What would you say in this situation "I would succeed if it weren't for you stoopid kids!"? Of course he's trying to deceive police and comfort himself with the most intellect he has at the moment.
@Zevox144
@Zevox144 22 күн бұрын
2's a federal crime.
@wilber1616
@wilber1616 27 күн бұрын
Glad she’s ok. It’s a sad reality of the creator space we don’t like to talk about but good on her being prepared. Love and hope the future holds better things for all!
@TylerPayne21
@TylerPayne21 26 күн бұрын
Hearing Camaila's sweet voice tremble in fear is the most heartbreaking thing I have heard in a while. I hope she can get past this horrible experience quickly. 😮‍💨💔
@funnyperson4027
@funnyperson4027 26 күн бұрын
Man glad that she had a panic button thats really smart
@Flourishflora
@Flourishflora 27 күн бұрын
Camilla doesn't deserve this shit. I hope she feels better and I hope the police lock this sick guy up.
@Goldenfish-o5p
@Goldenfish-o5p 27 күн бұрын
Prob a right-wing nut 😢🙏🏽 glad shes safe now at least..
@daniellox1
@daniellox1 27 күн бұрын
@@Goldenfish-o5p lmao you lost
@goldfish6660
@goldfish6660 27 күн бұрын
​@@Goldenfish-o5pwat? You don't need to be from the right to be a stalker
@MorbiusBlueBalls
@MorbiusBlueBalls 27 күн бұрын
I'm scared to watch the video. did he harm anyone?
@MorbiusBlueBalls
@MorbiusBlueBalls 27 күн бұрын
​@@Goldenfish-o5p in any other country, no. but if this is in america, i can't even disagree with you. they're wilding out there
@cirrostratus6823
@cirrostratus6823 25 күн бұрын
THIS HAPPENED TO ME, AND CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE NO MATTER HOW BIG OR SMALL YOU ARE ONLINE. BE CAREFUL. This is an alt account, but I am a cosplayer and former streamer and this started when I had not many followers. A person met me at a convention, they were a fan and gave me a gift, and it had a tracker inside of it. This person flew across countries just to find me and do this. Thankfully I actually thought to check for it and was able to remove it. But because of this, I became too scared to stream again incase more people do this to me. Please always be careful no matter who you are. Regardless of age, gender, whatever, it can happen.
@jeshua4
@jeshua4 22 күн бұрын
This reminds me of another vtuber who’s fiancé told her they were getting a weapon just in case because how crazy people get with content creators
@jonhawk117
@jonhawk117 20 күн бұрын
@@jeshua4 A very smart move would recommend
@jeshua4
@jeshua4 20 күн бұрын
@@jonhawk117 honestly yeah
@josephbulkin9222
@josephbulkin9222 18 күн бұрын
no. It doesn't happen to anyone. It only happens to vtubers and others who think themselves above criticism.
@ricekeks
@ricekeks 18 күн бұрын
@@josephbulkin9222 take your meds, its about time.
@LimgraveFootSoldier
@LimgraveFootSoldier 27 күн бұрын
So she gets stalked, almost invaded and her smartphone decides to just casually try and dox her live? Damn... Call a priest, a monk and a exorcist now, there's something going on
@michaelrhett4958
@michaelrhett4958 26 күн бұрын
And possibly the Ghostbusters
@EeveeRealSenpai
@EeveeRealSenpai 26 күн бұрын
call saul goodman
@Crazysnow124
@Crazysnow124 26 күн бұрын
Caul Morgan and Morgan
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 26 күн бұрын
Call the guy who pulled a swastika on a Jewish vampire.
@wanderkusanagi5313
@wanderkusanagi5313 25 күн бұрын
"a gun with one bullet"
@Mutualititve
@Mutualititve 27 күн бұрын
I was wondering why the specific question about someone banging the window to Evil that stream was so specific, holy shit that was freaking scary. Glad didn't turn out to be the worst outcome and hope Camila can get some rest over the past few stressful days.
@Ryroe
@Ryroe 26 күн бұрын
What question, can you point me to it? I wanna see
@Mutualititve
@Mutualititve 24 күн бұрын
@Ryroe It was during Evil Halloween prank call stream, she suddenly went quiet for a moment and then return to ask Evil about someone banging on her window. I think it was also clipped on this channel 5 days ago.
@Vedhon
@Vedhon 27 күн бұрын
Camila:explaining a traumatic experience. Her phone for some reason:So what I'm hearing is 121.214...
@zaroko8105
@zaroko8105 27 күн бұрын
Good god, you'd think that it wouldn't happen but precautions really are necessary when you're in these business. Also Vedal 30 armed bodyguards for next collab (irl & not)
@maxthibodeau3627
@maxthibodeau3627 22 күн бұрын
"i got a job for you 621"
@runecowman
@runecowman 5 күн бұрын
Some people just need to be removed from the gene pool. I'm glad she had a way to defend herself, but hearing her on the verge of tears I can only imagine the trauma. I hope for the best for her.
@jacobthebulldog7688
@jacobthebulldog7688 26 күн бұрын
I’m very happy she knows how to protect herself. Good father for taking her for practice
@Mrcookieonyt
@Mrcookieonyt 26 күн бұрын
Its great she had the foresight to protect herself. A lot of people dont take their own safety into consideration. Thinking they "can just call the police" and not realizing it could be 15-45 minutes to get police to a home invasion on average in america.
@birb4415
@birb4415 27 күн бұрын
This is why we can't have nice things. This guy had to go and fuck everything up, and now we definitely can't send gifts anymore.
@kingcasual-casual-gaming-5366
@kingcasual-casual-gaming-5366 26 күн бұрын
Maybe still doable, but they will take way more precautions now. Which is good for her, but sad it happened in the first place
@HirbodBakti
@HirbodBakti 9 күн бұрын
@@kingcasual-casual-gaming-5366 i think she said she wont be accepting gifts anymore and wont go to conventions in person.
@astrocosmicalDude
@astrocosmicalDude 24 күн бұрын
Stalkers are just fking disgusting man... People so far up their parasocial-ass delusions that they believe to have "rights" or "privileges" to HUNT and HAUNT someone because they are their _"friend"_. I'm just glad Camimi and her family are well, and that piece a shit of a stalker is behind bars.
@RedElectrik
@RedElectrik 25 күн бұрын
The iPhone trying to say her location worries me. That seems a little suspicious
@Omicron9999
@Omicron9999 23 күн бұрын
I know, right? How does that even happen on accident? At that exact time while she was describing how the guy found her. I noticed she didn't say whether the cops had him in jail or let him out either. I wonder how much evidence of a crime they were actually able to collect and whether he was formally charged with anything higher than a misdemeanor.
@BlueBrawler0
@BlueBrawler0 23 күн бұрын
@@Omicron9999 “it’s, ah, it’s very worth it” -> “it’s a hey Siri where’s it?”
@karistartnotenough6358
@karistartnotenough6358 21 күн бұрын
That why we shouldn't trust Apple
@paladin-ksai7667
@paladin-ksai7667 18 күн бұрын
iPhones, they're a massive security risk. Because they always listen for key phrases
@Jayzx53
@Jayzx53 25 күн бұрын
I wish nothing but the worst for that guy who tried to break in, that actually pisses me off so much
@josephbulkin9222
@josephbulkin9222 18 күн бұрын
so much for the tolerant left, amazing how you simps get so violent so quickly.
@carto4028
@carto4028 27 күн бұрын
Why did the phone do that? Thats insane. That could have been really bad ive never seen that happen.
@uselessprotaganist7444
@uselessprotaganist7444 27 күн бұрын
That's one of the reasons why I never, ever turn those voice assistants on.
@grapeyv
@grapeyv 27 күн бұрын
@@uselessprotaganist7444Siri can’t be turned off tho
@grapeyv
@grapeyv 27 күн бұрын
Siri does it to me all the time cuz I suck at speaking English and Siri hears “Siri” so that’s what happens
@uselessprotaganist7444
@uselessprotaganist7444 27 күн бұрын
@@grapeyv wtf really? And people still buy iPhones?? That's an insane oversight for everyone on iPhone to just be accepting like it can't be helped. Adding an off switch is not a big ask for Apple. It's been standard since day 1 for every other brand of phone.
@mactep1
@mactep1 27 күн бұрын
@@uselessprotaganist7444 He lied on the internet, it can be turned off.
@chaostyr
@chaostyr 27 күн бұрын
I swear its like something wants Camimi to be found. First the stalker guy, then the iphone. WTF is going on?!
@shotgunmasterQL
@shotgunmasterQL 27 күн бұрын
The phone thing is crazy
@NotTheDAHASAG
@NotTheDAHASAG 27 күн бұрын
​​@@shotgunmasterQL wha happened?? Edit: oh yeah nevermind, i thought it was something else outside the video haha
@talkingtakotaco8611
@talkingtakotaco8611 26 күн бұрын
Iphones and apple in general I feel like are not very secure. Air tags work by basically connecting to any iphones around and just using your connection to send its location data to the iPhone the air tag is connected to. The iPhone also probably has a voice assistant and for whatever reason it misheard her asking for her location. To do this, she probably left her GPS turned on, on her phone. I always turn mine off when I'm not activly navigating to a location.
@shotgunmasterQL
@shotgunmasterQL 26 күн бұрын
@@talkingtakotaco8611 Yeah, I was thinking that she was obviously talking about "how this guy knew where I am", so the phone could have definitely missed a few words and just heard a sentence it interpreted of Camilla asking "where am I" or something. Still pretty damn crazy of a coincidence.
@D_YellowMadness
@D_YellowMadness 26 күн бұрын
Phones should really have a rule that if you're in a place where you spend a lot of time not going anywhere, they won't state your location even if you ask unless you give confirmation on the touch screen by holding a button for a certain amount of time. After all, you're obviously sitting in a building or something so there's almost no chance it was triggered on purpose.
@wildberry_taruto
@wildberry_taruto 26 күн бұрын
Bro not the iPhone trying to doxx her on live 💀😱
@skiyoshiVT
@skiyoshiVT 25 күн бұрын
I was really confused why it started randomly saying the location? I went back to see if she triggered it by saying words a certain way but I don't see why it would trigger that at all.
@im7254
@im7254 10 күн бұрын
iPhones were always the worst possible phone
@UnrelatedLanternMouse
@UnrelatedLanternMouse 27 күн бұрын
I came from a Cerber raid, I did not expect to have such sadness after such wholesomeness😔
@meianhera3515
@meianhera3515 26 күн бұрын
I feel for people with stalkers because when you start entertaining people. Then the weirdos start coming out thinking they own you like you're their slave.
@PierreMETAL32
@PierreMETAL32 10 күн бұрын
People on twitter were saying "that's why you're supposed to get a firearm" ... Like wtf, I know there is the first or second amendment in the US but damn, nobody should have to rely on having firearm in their home to feel safe. What a f*cked up world we live in... Hope everything will be fine for you and your family, I didn't know or heard about you before this incident but wish you all the best
@Keeby.
@Keeby. 3 күн бұрын
also the intruder could just as easily have a fire arm with how available they are. if you live in a country where they are legal, you should own one, because the only way to defend yourself from someone with a gun is to have a gun but ideally, neither party have guns
@Frozen_Priest
@Frozen_Priest 27 күн бұрын
Thats scary af
@uselessprotaganist7444
@uselessprotaganist7444 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, I couldn't even imagine going back to the house after that. Especially after the cops warned they have no way of knowing if he shared her location with anyone else before getting arrested.
@mkime1203
@mkime1203 26 күн бұрын
This whole situation is very scary and makes me sick to my stomach that someone would do this. I'm glad she's ok and I hope this never happens again.
@whatTFisThis
@whatTFisThis 26 күн бұрын
def scary but i will say i was expecting worse as ive read some really fucked up shit about what some Japanese idols have gone through (sexual harassment, assault, near death experiences, being hospitalized for long amounts of time)
@Crazysnow124
@Crazysnow124 26 күн бұрын
Bro I don’t get to watch camilas streams a lot I watch KZbin vids but I’d never ever once think hey let me go see where she live. We can’t have nice things
@fireproxy9707
@fireproxy9707 4 күн бұрын
🎶After the downfall, the castle besieged! Facing the stalker at the end of the stream, Vtuber hunkered down and awaiting relief!🎶
@kitdoesstuff_official
@kitdoesstuff_official 26 күн бұрын
I'm not even a fan of Camilia but I feel so, so sorry for her :( Nobody should have to live through that. She seems so sweet
@angela_eric
@angela_eric 26 күн бұрын
Poor Camila. I hope she gets through this well.
@JesterKingZant
@JesterKingZant 27 күн бұрын
"He had a sledge hammer" Excuse me the PHUQUE??!!
@narutoxley
@narutoxley 25 күн бұрын
This is crazy. Down here in south america, i saw some news of some influencer also getting stalked, she was some womem from a lower class neiborhood, they didn't have to move though, no. ALL of the men if the neiborhood took turns patroling outside her house for MONTHS. Down here there's not cops in this neiborhoods, so its more normal for creeps to be beat up and sometimes killed, and no one rats anyone out if the police comes.
@alch3mIx
@alch3mIx 26 күн бұрын
you people saying "why is she crying/milking this incident" do not know how to put oneself in their shoes, so just shut up and leave if you can't sympathize
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 26 күн бұрын
Some of us saying that have dealt with worse. No firearms were discharged at any of her friends during any of these incidents. Wimp.
@maxtube1952
@maxtube1952 26 күн бұрын
@@AiOinc1 Ah yes, "it could've been worse." Very comforting, very helpful.
@Metrocop1376
@Metrocop1376 26 күн бұрын
Oh I’m sorry, didn’t realize we were having the trauma olympics. “Some of us have had dealt with worse so anyone else’s traumatic incident is invalid and they’re a wimp.” You’re a moron. Just for note, before you call me a simp, I don’t watch her, never have.
@Metrocop1376
@Metrocop1376 26 күн бұрын
Oh I’m sorry, didn’t realize we were having the trauma olympics. Someone came to her house with a SLEDGEHAMMER. Gun or not, a damn SLEDGEHAMMER can kill someone. And which could arguably worse, at least the gun is quick.
@Wallace1090
@Wallace1090 26 күн бұрын
She is just giving more power to the person that did this. It's about power person knows they got into her head she should not give them more attention or milk it for pity views
@supersonicgamerguru
@supersonicgamerguru 26 күн бұрын
Let's not mince words, a sledgehammer is still in the category of "something crazy".
@maxthibodeau3627
@maxthibodeau3627 22 күн бұрын
mk32 grenade launcher, now thats something crazy. but seriously thats some Jason shit.
@trxshmonke6590
@trxshmonke6590 27 күн бұрын
Anger and rage is filling my heart
@Dante2056
@Dante2056 26 күн бұрын
I'm honestly glad Camilla is getting through this. A traumatic experience is never easy, no matter who you are. Also I want to say, her saying someone knocked on her window when it happened was audible, though not the knock itself. I was watching on the Vedal/Evil side of it and I thought she was kidding about it because of it being a Halloween stream.
@babahabat
@babahabat 26 күн бұрын
The "why is she crying/milking it" comments are borderline psychopath behavior lol.
@EndoftheBeginning17
@EndoftheBeginning17 26 күн бұрын
Believe it or nt those people are just as nuts as the guy that tried to break in. These one's though are probably kids and hey will be chronically unemployed and Grammarly will do all their homework for them
@D_YellowMadness
@D_YellowMadness 26 күн бұрын
They're probably just desperate for attention but too pathetic to ever try earning it. They can't actually be that stupid, right? Even sociopaths know what fear is.
@dirtpig02
@dirtpig02 26 күн бұрын
​@@EndoftheBeginning17 grammarly? I think you meant chatgpt
@GogSeagullFUN
@GogSeagullFUN 26 күн бұрын
Grammarly? your too nice ​@@EndoftheBeginning17
@Callie_with_a_bible
@Callie_with_a_bible 26 күн бұрын
​@@dirtpig02 Yeah don't insult grammerly, grammerly helps you, can't write whole essays for you.
@JHattsy
@JHattsy 18 күн бұрын
The fact he only wanted to 'interact' when she was live is kinda foreboding...that's mentally unhinged mindset right there, "I want her to be live when I do something so all the viewers are terrified for her" Ultimate "I want to have the power in the situation and make others feel helpless" psychopath mentality. Glad her dad taught her well and glad she has a panic button.
@NZSF150
@NZSF150 25 күн бұрын
What pisses me off is that even if the guy gets life without bail or parole, he's technically already won to an extent. Even if he was sentenced to death, the damage and trauma he's given to Mimi has already been dealt, and it makes me so angry.
@namvo3013
@namvo3013 27 күн бұрын
First time I see this kind of event happen in western vtuber community
@AtomixTiger
@AtomixTiger 26 күн бұрын
I really hope she gets lots of comfort, she really needs it. Therapy too.
@phu9340
@phu9340 27 күн бұрын
It's terrifying to think that this could happen to any of us without warning. As if life isn't challenging enough, we still have to deal with people like this.
@banksuvladimir
@banksuvladimir 27 күн бұрын
Lol nah you just gotta be crazier than them. Anyone comes knockin on my door with a sledgehammer they're the ones in grave danger, not me.
@carto4028
@carto4028 27 күн бұрын
Yeah with thousands of viewers it still only takes one guy to do something like this.
@phu9340
@phu9340 27 күн бұрын
@carto4028 Such things happen every day, but not everyone knows because not everyone is as popular as Camila. It's sad that we live in such a cruel world. I already knew this was just a useless line but stay safe man.
@carto4028
@carto4028 27 күн бұрын
@@phu9340 Yeah, I've been looking into getting weapon training myself lately
@Purin1023
@Purin1023 27 күн бұрын
My brain is cooked dude. I thought you meant from the perspective of the stalker. Like any chatter could suddenly be activated like a sleeper agent.
@ASm_rtOtaku
@ASm_rtOtaku 19 күн бұрын
2:35, Thinking about her audience even during such a traumatic experience. I not part of her community but that speaks volumes of who she is. May she recover soon.
@Zenobiwan
@Zenobiwan 26 күн бұрын
for the people who need to hear it: you are a stranger to the streamers you watch. you may watch them and admire them, you may sub or donate to them, you may even meet them at cons; but YOU ARE A STRANGER TO THEM. if your reaction to hearing this is "yeah, duh" then that's the appropriate response. If your reaction starts with "yeah but ..." then you need to STOP AND GET HELP. what Camilla experienced is awful stalker behaviour, and no'one should be subjected to that.
@whatTFisThis
@whatTFisThis 26 күн бұрын
yea, like streamers def value us and care abt us, but they do not know us, and we do not know the entirety of them either, just because you know a person as a streamer does not give you the right to forcibly try to befriend them or date them
@baul997
@baul997 26 күн бұрын
"meet" at conferences
@KamiHirazawaii
@KamiHirazawaii 26 күн бұрын
Now I just wanna add a bit of injecture if I may.... now in no way am I trying to say your wrong or disagree with you. However. There is some point where you can be friends with a steamer. take conner for example.... he started off as an ironmouse friend and subber... and now look they are best friends... so i mean it is possible to be friends with one but it doesn't mean you can get stupid there a line between being their friend and just being a fucking creep
@tigerfestivals5137
@tigerfestivals5137 25 күн бұрын
​@@baul997?
@NaoNakashima
@NaoNakashima 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, but you are absolutely right.
@abacaxigomes4416
@abacaxigomes4416 26 күн бұрын
2:54 It's a terrifying thought to have to consider. I hope everything stays fine now.
@ResidentChef
@ResidentChef 25 күн бұрын
Yeah it's awful to even consider but it's unfortunately a possibility in this situation.
@ImNotFine44
@ImNotFine44 26 күн бұрын
Im tearing up man. Ive seen alot of f’d up stuff in my life but hearing camila’s voice shake like that… god this sucks
@swordsman1_messer
@swordsman1_messer 26 күн бұрын
I’m just glad Camila did invest into all the security measures she can. That’s all I want for people these days. If you’re not comfortable with firearms, that’s your choice, but it shouldn’t restrict others who accept that responsibility is all I’m saying. As for these kinds of incidents, someone is going to get into serious danger if they keep trying to do these kinds of actions. Camilla herself said that she has a gun and got training. This could have gone completely differently, because from her perspective, someone is just breaking in. Context in self defense only should matter within the moment, not before or after. Do not do this. This isn’t even a matter of respect or decency, it’s one of potential death or serious bodily harm.
@yeahimsans
@yeahimsans 19 күн бұрын
i'm so upset this had to happen to her, she doesn't deserve *anything* like that to happen to her. *nobody* does. this stalker *will* receive his judgement, kiddos. if the authorities don't make sure of it, *i* will.
@AmericanNEET8644
@AmericanNEET8644 26 күн бұрын
Big W for Camilla's dad for teaching her how to protect herself. Also wow, wtf, the iPhone 😮
@lil-hannah
@lil-hannah 27 күн бұрын
Thats soo messed up, why is this parasocial person is so psycho. Like Camila said: "W for the Panic Button" I'm glad she is safe now.
@lycan8037
@lycan8037 26 күн бұрын
I feel so bad for Camila. She didn't deserve to go through any of this. She's such a sweet and talented person and has made many happy. Hearing her cry over something like this makes me worried as a fan for her safety.
@1337foxs
@1337foxs 26 күн бұрын
The iPhone thing has to be some of the worst timing imaginable
@dragonkyn20
@dragonkyn20 21 күн бұрын
People are fucking insane. I'm glad Camila didn't get hurt. All it takes is one unhinged person to change a person's life for the worst.
@Shadow86TheGamer
@Shadow86TheGamer 27 күн бұрын
People are deranged, evil. Unfortunately is the world we live in.
@Trustacean
@Trustacean 27 күн бұрын
Even Evil herself wouldn't do something like that
@hellemperor-1641
@hellemperor-1641 26 күн бұрын
​@@Trustaceanshush cringelord
@ruelie
@ruelie 5 күн бұрын
I have never heard of this girl until now but im so incredibly proud of how she handled that situation and im so happy shes safe
@Omicron9999
@Omicron9999 23 күн бұрын
Uhh... a sledgehammer at your door being wielded by a home invader DEFINITELY qualifies as something that's 'pretty fucking crazy.' And also counts as justifiable self defense.
@Dane_37
@Dane_37 27 күн бұрын
TF Siri wanted a round 2
@jeshua4
@jeshua4 22 күн бұрын
Round 2? Siri wanted a battle royal
@EternalDipsy
@EternalDipsy 7 күн бұрын
LMAOOOO NOOO 😂😢
@potatortheomnipotentspud
@potatortheomnipotentspud 27 күн бұрын
Crapple: I see that you recounting a traumatic experience in which a stalker tried to break in to your house. *Would you like me to read your full legal name, date of birth, current address, contact information, credit card numbers, social security number and full medical history?*
@MrEgCCBee
@MrEgCCBee 27 күн бұрын
6:26 unfortunately at this very moment our beloved imp went crazy 😢
@EmberedAshe
@EmberedAshe 26 күн бұрын
This is fucking horrible, i hope that stalker faces serious charges
@jacobsmith8377
@jacobsmith8377 13 күн бұрын
Im so sorry you went through this. Stay safe.
@Miscobob
@Miscobob 26 күн бұрын
This is absolutly gut wrenching to listen to... Glad nothing more sinister happened.
@dartdevious561
@dartdevious561 7 күн бұрын
There is injustice, and women have to live in fear so much of what horrid thing could happen, that she rather mute herself
@PAZander
@PAZander 22 күн бұрын
Poor girl...I really hope she heals from this as soon as possible. This scumbag knows what he did and I hope he gets what he deserves. He ruined all this for her, I love Camila and really hope that she can return to her normal streaming and loves it.
@aidendoom8183
@aidendoom8183 19 күн бұрын
What hurt the most to hear was her making sure other people were safe and so chat didn't hear anything she thought of everyone else apart from her that made me want to cry
@VoidHxnter
@VoidHxnter 25 күн бұрын
Its very good she learned how to use firearms. And that she had a panic button and a robust security system. I hope she finds a therapist. Even if you don't think you need one, go. I had that mindset for a long time, until I witnessed a fatal car crash right into the bus in front of me while I was on my way to a football game. The person was nearly bisected, another dead, and the third extremely injured, but all my friends on the bus were just fine, thank god. It was the first time I had witnessed someone die in front of me, and it was extremely gruesome. I was in shock so at the time I felt really apathetic, but when I went to my college's counselor (all the counselors from all different campuses came to give counseling for the entire band), I just broke down and could barely speak for half of the session because I was crying. No matter how stoic you are, go see a therapist if you have even the slightest suspicion you might need one. Don't bottle up emotions.
@bee-le4tr
@bee-le4tr 26 күн бұрын
Horrible situation to go through, though the panic button thankfully cut it short; having someone break into your to get you is something I can’t even imagine. hopefully Camila is able to recuperate from this.
@Id_k_
@Id_k_ 27 күн бұрын
That's aweful af, hopefully she's okay
@TheTechPoTaToCHIP
@TheTechPoTaToCHIP 26 күн бұрын
No way Siri almost fucking doxxed her in the middle of her telling this story
@DarkQwerzar
@DarkQwerzar 27 күн бұрын
That's so horrible, and this to happen specifically at a Vtuber that tries even more to stay anonymous... That man is really cruel. She will now surely be traumatized ...sorry for Camila
@draydenferguson3128
@draydenferguson3128 24 күн бұрын
She sounds extremely shaken up and she has every right to be after what happened. Not only was this guy armed with a sledgehammer, but to say that SHE'S HIS FRIEND? I sincerely hope that the guy is put on major restraints by authorities or faces jail time. Also, we need to make tracking devices less accessible or just not accessible at all so that stuff like this doesn't happen.
@castform57
@castform57 26 күн бұрын
Man, giving a gift is a nice gesture, but it sucks so much that it can be used for nefarious intentions such as this.
@Toxickbd
@Toxickbd 26 күн бұрын
I’m glad you guys are okay
@stroodlepup
@stroodlepup 26 күн бұрын
"Yes, we have a firearm" *SUPPORTIVE SARUEI NOISES*
@duckymclain927co05
@duckymclain927co05 24 күн бұрын
I hope that with counseling, love, and support from family, friends, and her TRUE fans that she will come out stronger. By the sheer fact, she got on stream and shared this, speaks volumes about her mental fortitude and grace. With time, patience, and care, she will heal. I pray she doesn't lose an ounce of that sweetness, for that in itself would be a tragedy. One day at a time. The grace she showed to protect her viewers from possible tragedy.. 😢😮❤ Says alot.
@MaximeLafreniere433
@MaximeLafreniere433 27 күн бұрын
The tracker thing was already sketchy at best, but breaking in, that's way too far (and illegal). Going to the house normally was already something one shouldn't do recklessly. The entire community will suffer because of one horrible person, the Camila community does not associate with that person at all. Godspeed to Camimi! I hope and wish she at the very least heals well, and maybe one day be capable of trusting enough to do IRL stuff again. The way she described meeting fans and receiving gifts was so precious.
@lordlittletoeq8537
@lordlittletoeq8537 26 күн бұрын
small correction, The tracker thing is actually too far also. Super not based
@Crazysnow124
@Crazysnow124 26 күн бұрын
One Camila is so sweet we don’t deserve her
@Paradox66199
@Paradox66199 26 күн бұрын
@@MaximeLafreniere433 One should not confuse law with morality, The first commenter is correct. Despite being a 'public figure' so to speak online creators and Vtubers especially have a purposeful level of anonymity and private information which they would not wish to be shared. Knowing certainly IS a problem as it's an intentional step to invade that privacy, even just the tracker would've already been grounds for legal action in all 50 states actually. Absolutely wild statement to compare it to knowing how to commit something illegal but never doing it, justifying stalker behavior. One can know how to saw off a shotgun, build a pipe bomb, commit a murder, hijack a car. And whilst some things are more suspicious to know as they require seeking that knowledge out, it is absolutely not the same. ESPECIALLY because it's not the knowledge on how to commit a crime, or a lead-in to other crimes but is literally illegal itself. Ya most people won't agree because you're wrong, calling it a 'specific' analysis or that's how the legal system works where you are is certainly not a defense.
@MaximeLafreniere433
@MaximeLafreniere433 26 күн бұрын
@@Paradox66199 Hold it, I never said it was not immoral. I only said it was not as harmful.
@Paradox66199
@Paradox66199 26 күн бұрын
@@MaximeLafreniere433 That's not what you said either, you said it *wasn't* harmful. There's a difference, took me a second but you deleted your reply to the first comment.
@johnc7389
@johnc7389 21 күн бұрын
to me, the scary thing is not what he did or was trying to do or even the threat of real violence. It's the reminder of just how detached and sociopath some people can be. The whole setup makes it clear he wanted to make something heinous happen on-stream, and he didn't just happen to follow her home and seize the moment. This was planned, meditated, with the intent of maximizing her fear and the amount of attention he would get.
@brianwithab5647
@brianwithab5647 26 күн бұрын
Thats god-awful. Some people are actually out of their minds. Sorry for that trauma camila, hope you heal well and 1 day soon laugh & smile again
@Crazysnow124
@Crazysnow124 26 күн бұрын
Bro this just ain’t fair why do people do these things Fahd damn weirdo
@foxpokemonforever4775
@foxpokemonforever4775 20 сағат бұрын
This poor girl! She was so scared but wanted to make sure her viewers weren’t scared too. The fact that this kind of thing can happen is terrifying and heartbreaking.
@Mechanos
@Mechanos 26 күн бұрын
air tags should be outlawed, such needless bullshit
@Yuki_Hatori
@Yuki_Hatori 19 күн бұрын
We are extremely sorry you are going through this Camilla. We are so happy u are safe. Just take your time to recover from this. This is truly horrifying... we are very sorry Camilla Sending you tight hugs and pats ❤
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