Not gonna lie, this is probably the exact reason why Vedal was so insistant on Toma having enough security with her during her IRL streams. Poor Cami...
@Jasonwynn1014 күн бұрын
This makes SO much sense to me now
@ChiIIi...14 күн бұрын
I think that was a bit of a different situation. Toma would have been livestreaming her location while she was wearing a very expensive streaming backpack. And it's very possible that fans of Neuro or people watching the livestream would come at her when they literally know her location.
@snowball228014 күн бұрын
@@ChiIIi...but also someone could plant a tracker on her while she’s distracted with Neuro and chat, same difference tho, dangers from -strangers- losers
@ChiIIi...14 күн бұрын
@@snowball2280 It's possible but that could be the case with everyone. I don't think that the reason for the bodyguard was people potentially putting a tracker on her though. Especially since it's such a weird thing to do, I don't think the assumption was made in the first place that that could happen. Probably more of a carrying a very expensive item while sharing your location kind of situation
@adrielarron981314 күн бұрын
Yeah... Womp womp
@teacupbirb471112 күн бұрын
I have known this person for a total of 8 minutes and have come the conclusion that the stalker in question needs to go for a swim with cement shoes.
@stoneheart000711 күн бұрын
You 'n me both, my friend. You 'n me both.
@vava785810 күн бұрын
Don't worry it's not just shoes will give him full gear cement for swimming he'll be the best diver in the Mariana trench and you'll see he'll never come back up
@ScarletStarManor10 күн бұрын
@@stoneheart0007 Add me to that list too, think this guy needs a nice vacation in the Bermuda.
@Pr0m3th310us10 күн бұрын
muerte-row is also acceptable
@Malosphere1310 күн бұрын
in a pool of lemon juice while covered in paper cuts
@chrisvighagen13 күн бұрын
Camilla really loves her fans, and this scumbag ruined it for everyone. And now she’s loosing the dream home she built for her family. That aint right. Hope that guy goes to jail for a very long time.
@stoneheart000711 күн бұрын
People that do crap like that? Ought to be locked up for the rest of their damn life. Dude tried to break into her house with a f'in sledgehammer and just goes "NO ITS COOL I'M HER FRIEND"
@wikkedawsome10 күн бұрын
@@stoneheart0007yeah it’s messed up in city areas. We moved to a new house and the previous tenant spied on our place several times and taking pictures of our kids. Cops did nothing went to court got restraining order again and he broke in week later. After the we went to court and he no showed. Got caught 3 months later and got a fu****ng probation before judgment because they were fent addict. We moved and I bought a gun which I don’t like. But the system needs to severely stop and have 20+ years for breaking into homes. I don’t know why people get 30 for drugs, but like p.b.j or 5 months.
@semideadnat10 күн бұрын
@@wikkedawsome There should be a public list everyone has access to for not just people on the Offenders of Sexual Violence Registry but also for people involved with stalking. Because there's so many cases with sexual violence and stalking go hand in hand. It's terrible.
@Eshiel_the_dark_seraph10 күн бұрын
or a wood chipper!
@ma.20899 күн бұрын
@@wikkedawsome I think it was the Nixon war on drugs that made drug crimes so bad. It’s funny cuz the dude only did it to appear “hard” on crime. Why drugs? What did that need to be the example? I guess cuz it disproportionately affected certain races, and he wanted them gone, but he could’ve been “hard” on literally any crime. Like breaking into ppl’s homes.
@oldwellenthusiast875013 күн бұрын
the guy had a fkn sledgehammer, she narrowly dodged a tragedy
@brucejedilee529013 күн бұрын
Hopefully he only intended to use it to break in and not harm her
@bradwhite588413 күн бұрын
But at least her family has a gun
@renmcmanus13 күн бұрын
It happing at all surely qualifies as a tragedy. I'm not trying to dispute your point. I'm just saying.
@bort641412 күн бұрын
@@brucejedilee5290 Let's be real, he was going to harm her without the sledgehammer if he got the chance. I don't think I need to spell out what a deranged parasocial intends to do with the streamer who's entire platform is essentially "lewd adjacent".
@tickledeggz12 күн бұрын
Honestly, while scary, the sledgehammer was more of a threat to the door than it was to any human. Once he'd broken in, assuming it's an internet neckbeard, its highly unlikely he would have had the energy or skill required to effectively hit anyone with it. That being said, a man breaking into your house with a big hammer is probably terrifying.
@piccoroz14 күн бұрын
This guy ruined it for EVERYONE, the news are widespread and now every indie will follow the same path.
@arlynnecumberbatch105613 күн бұрын
who is it bc im on limited data
@vantaisback266013 күн бұрын
Who Batman?
@bradwhite588413 күн бұрын
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 We don't need to know, we don't need to know who this scumbag who done this, but if it is to name and shame, then be my guess, lol
@HaloMillennium13 күн бұрын
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 some random guy she met at a meet and greet or something, he put a tracker in a gift to follow her home.
@JESSIETANNER12 күн бұрын
no? camila isn't the first person to be affected by something like this. weird thing to focus on either way
@gamingsasquatch335714 күн бұрын
It takes a single individual to ruin someone’s life. Please be safe everyone!
@adnan_honest_jihadist577512 күн бұрын
yet youre in a society where you could simply assume wrong about me or someone else
@typicaluser69712 күн бұрын
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 what the genuine fuck did you meant by this?
@CF-or3ci12 күн бұрын
@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 You are talking like you are that guy. He admitted to put a device into a gift, found other persons house and ruined their privacy and sense of security, ruined any chance for her fans to be trusted anymore and worst of all we don’t even know if he is free. Do you really want to defend this piece of sht?
@adnan_honest_jihadist577511 күн бұрын
@@CF-or3ci ok you cant even properly tag me learn that first & where is the proof that hes talking like me? you never know stop blatantly assume stuff about people + youre also saying at the same time that muslims talk like him bcs i try my best to be similiarily to prophet muhammad pbuh which the vast majority of muslims also try bcs we get rewarded for it. nobody is free in this world we are all slaves of societies, religions, Allah, cults, countries, companies, work ect. youre another individual that got deceived by democrats & liberals, im not defending him im trying to improve the western world by trying to make it like the past where people were guest friendly but nowadays sadly arent bcs of social anxities are you that dumb to get that?
@adnan_honest_jihadist577511 күн бұрын
@@CF-or3ci idk why but my comment got deleted as if youtube doesnt want me to refute youre points and show how wrong you are, i suggest we do this privately rather
@Sjors_14 күн бұрын
Shoutout to that tomato soup ad for making her laugh again despite it all, though
@antoinette...12 күн бұрын
Truly. I'm glad she can have a giggle even during such a tough time.
@One-Seal9 күн бұрын
for that alone, ads are forgiven their sins for now
@gg_sam784713 күн бұрын
Dude really saw the Kiara stalker incident and how there were hundreds of thousands of people saying they're gonna hunt down and beat the guy to death and then thought this was a good idea
@dalriada755412 күн бұрын
Pretty sure Keekihime's stalker is wondering why all everybody is preventing him from enjoying marital bliss with his beloved. Because those people are complete nutcases. There's no point looking for a logic behind, except maybe with a few years of psychiatry at your belt.
@gotgunpowder12 күн бұрын
Well yeah, because that was just tough guy talk lmfao.
@gg_sam784712 күн бұрын
@gotgunpowder there are people unstable enough to follow through
@KillerofGods10 күн бұрын
Kiara had a stalker?
@gg_sam784710 күн бұрын
@KillerofGods yeahh I kinda misspoke but I assume the vast majority of people already know
@AaronAngelo14 күн бұрын
I don't follow Camilla closely but shit man. The poor girl is traumatized and now has to stop doing some of her favorite things cause of one asshole. I hope other vtubers take notice and start being more cautious.
@Bakuganluver2310 күн бұрын
Some of her favourite things? such as?
@silviobleta9 күн бұрын
@@Bakuganluver23Watch the video perhaps? She said she loves receiving gifts from fans and loves irl meet&greet with her fans, and she has to stop doing this
@ryanv76817 күн бұрын
I hope they fight back tho instead of just being cautious. You shouldn't have to change your life just for one mere mortal and let ppl like these control you. It also sends a clear as air message: "don't trifle where you're not supposed to"
@minditris92295 күн бұрын
@@Bakuganluver23 Some of her favorite things such as perhaps living inside of her own house????? Feeling safe???
@Bakuganluver235 күн бұрын
@@minditris9229 Alright, I GET it. I Was just asking a question.
@Noxis0714 күн бұрын
The gifting COULD still happen. However, she would need to have them sent to a PO box FAR away from her residence and have them thoroughly screened by friend/family/colleagues. This is what Dokibird did recently. However, I'm aware this is easier said than done. I'm just throwing out a suggestion.
@piratelute893414 күн бұрын
Literally not worth lol
@Blackbirdone1114 күн бұрын
There are services for privacy that do that. So its not a big deal
@shadowdemonaer13 күн бұрын
Throne is likely the only safe way to be sent gifts.
@Baylight12 күн бұрын
this is exactly what piratesoftware does he opens his boxes at the ups because he once found an air tag
@Nucksen12 күн бұрын
@@Blackbirdone11 Those are pretty damn expensive
@carto402815 күн бұрын
Honestly I wish conventions had professional item checkers who looks over gifts streamers receive to check them for trackers. I feel like that should be a standard.
@jaydet284514 күн бұрын
True, or when streamers do PO Boxes
@intenseavarice3414 күн бұрын
Unfortunately this this never gonna be the reality so long as cons have a profit first mindset. There's no profit in the safety of the livers or the attendees. At least not beyond the immediate venue. So once there's a gift exchange or an item handoff, so long as its not a bomb... they don't care.
@Duamerthrax14 күн бұрын
Cons do not have those kinds of resources.
@Nahid-zz7nj14 күн бұрын
True
@cloudsteele198914 күн бұрын
Way to freaking expensive and time consuming. It's also not the cons responsibility. They will 'protect' you from immediate dangers, but they aren't doing anti-subterfuge. If everybody received just 20 gifts, and there are let's say only 20 streamers. That's still 400 items, each taking a minute to scan properly. That's almost 7 hours of a person checking items. Now imagine 100 streamers getting 20+ gifts.
@bluetoadettethegoddess610414 күн бұрын
Thanks for including that bit at the end, but goddamn it already sucked knowing she would likely have to move, but hearing that they built their house *and* she doesn't even live alone makes it so much worse (I didn't know either of these beforehand). I don't even want to think what I would do in this situation, I feel so abd for her and her mom.
@SeibahMoon14 күн бұрын
Does she live with her mother, father, etc?
@no_0riginality93714 күн бұрын
@@SeibahMoonShe lives with both parents I believe
@ValidT14 күн бұрын
It’s probably best she didn’t live alone even if it does inconvenience her family.. I have a feeling way worse would’ve happened way before if she lived alone.. I don’t even like to think of those kind of things.. just makes the skin crawl.
@hochdieanarchie14 күн бұрын
@@SeibahMoon Yeah if she's in America it's pretty much almost impossible to live alone for a lot of ppl plus it's stuff like this.
@bossked156313 күн бұрын
@ValidT Personally I love multi-generational homes. It keeps everyone economically secure, reduces the workload of the housekeepers, and you have your family around you constantly, instead of living alone in a tiny box. We need to being that back. =(
@Krithalith14 күн бұрын
I hope that on top of criminal sentencing they can hold the guy liable to pay some sort of restitution for losing the house, mental suffering and perhaps needing additional security measures going forward.
@AerisRG14 күн бұрын
+ I hope the guy would stay in jail for at least 2 years
@nd_otd14 күн бұрын
That would be ideal, but I think she'll have to dox herself further if she's going to pursue this legally. Probably similar to the situation with IronMouse when someone copyright striked her channel, and just chose to not defend against the strike legally due to her having to reveal her identity. I'm not an expert with the legal system tho, so I could be wrong.
@chozer114 күн бұрын
@@AerisRGtry 20
@herbata260014 күн бұрын
no house was lost delusion
@brningpyre14 күн бұрын
That would be part of a civil lawsuit aside from the criminal charges, but possible. It's unclear if she could sue anonymously, though.
@EganCraft12 күн бұрын
I’m glad that I got to meet Camila irl at Weebcon before all this happened. She was chill and signed my notebook with a nice little turtle drawing and it made my day. Hope she’ll be ok and can mentally recover from this
@CyanAmity12 күн бұрын
@@EganCraft aww, that was so sweet of her. Glad you got to experience that. And yeah, I hope for nothing but the absolute best for Camila going forward. Hopefully someone who she actually trusts is able to properly comfort her. My heart breaks thinking about what she’s going through. 🥺🩷
@EganCraft12 күн бұрын
@@CyanAmityit’s a good thing she has her mother with her
@goldenmemez15 күн бұрын
This is the worst thing someone in our community did cause like why does he think he has the entitlement to do this shit?
@devildante914 күн бұрын
He clearly wasn't thinking. This is a mental illness, and that person needs medication and physiological treatment because there's clearly a chemical imbalance in his brain. Do you shit on a person that has Aspergers every time they swear? Let's try to help this poor bastards back to a normal life and frame of mind. We should be pitying the ill (physically or mentally ill), wishing evil on them does nothing. Everyone with half a brain cell knows it's wrong, you contribute nothing by stating the obvious in a youtube video.
@feministpicnicfallsapartaf364414 күн бұрын
Lets not pretend this woman didnt grow this big by pretending and feeding into such entitlement. Now shes paying the price for getting rich off such scummy tactics
@Rachet2020214 күн бұрын
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644Victim blaming is so cool.
@goldenmemez14 күн бұрын
@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644 It's not like she was any different from other content creators with acting close to fans. From what I've seen from clips and stuff, I only saw the normal kind of fan interaction you would expect from someone with a bit of a sassyness.
@iAmGrumpy14 күн бұрын
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644bait used to be believable. But if you truly believe what you said then it seems the core of the issue is she got rich and you didnt.
@ryabread911014 күн бұрын
This is probably the saddest thing I've seen this year. It sucks so much that you have to give up so much (even of your future happiness) just because of one person.
@herbata260014 күн бұрын
so you didnt see shit good for you
@Outrack14 күн бұрын
@@herbata2600 Who hurt you?
@herbata260014 күн бұрын
@@Outrack XD noone i just read the news
@XatubaX14 күн бұрын
Damn you must lead an amazingly beautiful life if this is the SADDEST thing in the ENTIRE year... Good for you i guess
@wholesomeprofilepicture58514 күн бұрын
@@herbata2600 I mean this is prob the most emotional I've gotten all year(or at least in the past 3 months) I don't really give a shit about the news
@DeoxysChao14 күн бұрын
Poor Camila. I hope Evil gives her lots of virtual hugs to make her feel better.
@Waisowol14 күн бұрын
its funnt how you said evil and not someone that actually exist hahah
@pulzsuppe14 күн бұрын
@@Waisowol technically evil neuro exists, if she wouldn't there wouldn't be content of her
@vnmememan865714 күн бұрын
@@Waisowolirrelevant
@Reac214 күн бұрын
Delusion
@Hollow_Tim14 күн бұрын
pulzsuppe By that logic every fictional character also exists
@Zakru14 күн бұрын
Holy fuck I'm tearing up. Not a regular viewer, I only know her through Vedal, but I still feel horrible knowing I can't do anything to help her feel better. Not that I don't think she has a lovely support network who can give her all the help she needs, but it's just an empathy instinct I can't fulfill. Watched most of the vod and my heart is fucking shattered.
@sambob801913 күн бұрын
Same here
@chriswihulu13 күн бұрын
True, just as a once in a while viewer/clip watcher, I feel like I should do something, anything rather than nothing 😢
@rainbowcraft269413 күн бұрын
I don't regularly watch her content, but hearing the pain, fear, and defeat in her voice.. it makes me wish there was anything I could do to fix anything. But it can't be fixed.. things have changed irreparably because of one maniac.
@adnan_honest_jihadist577512 күн бұрын
cries are useless you dont need them to be on the right side
@Zenxolu7 күн бұрын
this weird hero complex is more creepier than the actual stalker, just to have a status on this person's channel.
@DKPGames14 күн бұрын
Knowing how Police only act on Stalkers when its too late im surprised he is even in jail, i hope she stays safe and that never happens again
@cloudsteele198914 күн бұрын
Menacing, breaking and entering, if he had a weapon on him it's premeditated assault. That's definitely jail worthy.
@MDG-mykys14 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's not just stalking. It was, in fact, too late.
@Nyathalieh14 күн бұрын
He didn't just stalk her, he broke into her house that's why he's in jail.
@pdd579314 күн бұрын
@@cloudsteele1989 she said he had a sledge hammer
@talkingtakotaco861114 күн бұрын
I mean, you are right. It was too late. The stalker was breaking into the house. That's too late.
@Magiholic_14 күн бұрын
Unironically this dude probably ruined it for more than just Camila. EVERY indie has it in their mind now a fan who handed them or sent something could show up at their door. What use to be a very minimal back of the mind once in a while thought has come to the foreground. All it took was 1 schizo to ruin it for literally everyone.
@kilbert66614 күн бұрын
Good, it's a valuable lesson. People take zero accountability for their own safety anymore.
@UnknownGamer4046414 күн бұрын
@@kilbert666kindly gfys
@vnmememan865714 күн бұрын
@@UnknownGamer40464it is genuinely a good idea for others to take a preventive measure. Others taking precautions could avoid such things in the future. Which is good.
@fwiffo14 күн бұрын
@@kilbert666 She did. She even has a panic button and other safety measures for this exact reason. But now she still has to move. Stop victim blaming.
@Enae-Esen14 күн бұрын
@@TheLordTashvictim blaming
@CampaignMusic235 күн бұрын
Breaks my heart to hear her talk about how much she loves her house. And they didn't build a house, they built a home. I will never truly understand, but it's so frustrating to hear someone talk about another person ruining it for everyone. Themselves, The Artist, The Streamer. The tears and the sniffles hurt my heart.
@chapelknight95113 күн бұрын
My grandparents and other relatives built their own houses. Slowly building them up from a single room to multiple rooms and bedrooms over decades. That's so sad to lose
@link1234521414 күн бұрын
This is depressing as hell. Poor girl. I really want to tell her to not let this guy ruin everything she has going on that she enjoys, but its traumatizing i'm sure and its not as simple as just push through.
@Qs-Artistry13 күн бұрын
1:11 Her privacy & life were disrespected beyond words. Hope she can feel safe again after this situation.
@Skycube10013 күн бұрын
At least that Tomato soup ad came in to lighten up the mood and give her a chuckle
@judeffr14 күн бұрын
I can't imagine how stress I would be after someone uses a sledgehammer on my property
@KillerofGods10 күн бұрын
What happened?
@Carboy458 күн бұрын
@@KillerofGods idk all the details but I'm guessin a "fan" or whatever tracked down her house, and then set up some plan to come to her house while she was on stream, with a sledge hammer, tried to break in, she or someone called the police and he was arrested?
@KillerofGods8 күн бұрын
@Carboy45 Got recommend a clip where she was talking about it. The "fan" put a tracker in one of her gifts. Knocked on her window while she was stream and ran away. She thought it was some kid. Guy shows up the next day during a stream and uses a sledge hammer to try to break open their garage door. Cops came and the guy was saying it was okay because they were all friends.
@ThatIceChampion5 күн бұрын
@@KillerofGodsJesus that is absolutely horrible. Poor Camila.
@yeet506514 күн бұрын
She might not be the only one who do this now. Potentially everybody else in her circle would take measures to keep themselves safe.
@linkshunter60814 күн бұрын
I know if I were a vtuber who recently received gifts I'd be inspecting all of them that's for sure
@MDG-mykys14 күн бұрын
One silver lining, I guess.
@Misanthropolis14 күн бұрын
Vtubing was all about streaming while remaining anonymous after all. Absolutely horrible that it happened, but this is why you should NOT neglect your own privacy. The mentality ''Yeah, but it won't happen to ME'' is bad.
@manncake682814 күн бұрын
That's why doxxing should be freaking illegal who knows what these sick people would do to you
@adnan_honest_jihadist577512 күн бұрын
@@linkshunter608 you should generally inspect them
@michaelfisher717014 күн бұрын
all this because of one demented jagoff who had to be a douchebag. have to uproot an entire household for safety. I feel so much for her and her family. I just hope they can find a good, safe, new home they can make their own.
@Stereo3DProductions14 күн бұрын
A douchebag? You mean a dangerous borderline serial killer sociopath. Douchebag is for the guy who bumps into youm spills your drink and doesn't apologize. This is a bit more serious.
@snowball228014 күн бұрын
Yeah, the correct term here is _loser_
@michaelfisher717014 күн бұрын
@@Stereo3DProductions can’t tell if you’re being serious or just trying to present an example of what you consider a douchebag to be. Either way I’ll certainly take it under advisement.
@lusio157911 күн бұрын
@@Stereo3DProductions he probably wasn't a serial killer, but he definely was dangerous and parasocial
@CyanAmity13 күн бұрын
I hope that stalker never sees the outside of a jail cell ever again. He hurt Camila, and destroyed something beautiful for so many others. He’ll find out that karma is one hell of a thing. Obviously I’d understand if Camila wouldn’t accept a physical hug, but I will send virtual hugs and my best wishes for her and her family. I hope she takes whatever future steps she needs in order to get through this. Stay safe, and stay strong Camila. We love you. 🫂🩷
@NoPe-n1jКүн бұрын
You would have to be insane to believe he will get life in prison lol, you might not like to hear it but that’s just the truth, he will get out relatively soon.
@17910719999913 күн бұрын
Such a pure heart. What happened to her makes me hate this World. If the courts don't give full justice, i hope certain internet individuals do something about him
@vakamablack432415 күн бұрын
SunSpotzz is a real one for that
@lolzmanxd336814 күн бұрын
He probably felt on top of the world after that, to be able to make someone laugh even in one of their darkest hours is an amazing feeling
@emi_later13 күн бұрын
@@lolzmanxd3368or he didn't see it because he was still watching the ad 😄
@bradwhite588412 күн бұрын
@@emi_later or worse, have to see the same add 4 times and they are long ads which could of played through the whole moment and probably got frustrated with it, he also probably wrote that still watching the ads, and they are unskippable ones
@emi_later12 күн бұрын
@@bradwhite5884 I feel for people who have to put up with the ads :( I subscribed to turbo because they are WAY too frequent and annoying to deal with.
@privateuser372614 күн бұрын
It's sad that she can't do fan meets anymore, because she needs someone to give a big ol hug
@its_renren729214 күн бұрын
Thank you SunSpotzz, I hope someone in chat gifted you a tier 3 sub for making Camila laugh in the midst of this nightmare she's been put through. In a perfect world I would hope whoever this psycho is that stalked Camimi realises the trauma they caused her, leaves her alone and never comes back.
@Murbz14 күн бұрын
That is really sad. Camila is so bright and nice.
@tswizzlemcbizzle13 күн бұрын
Man, this whole situation sucks. He didn't just make things worse for Camila, but also her family, and all the fans who'll never have the opportunity to meet their oshi. The world's a scary place sometimes...
@spadaken13 күн бұрын
This is so heartbreaking and depressing and sad for not just Camimi, but also her community. I follow her and watch her streams from time to time, but i don’t really consider myself part of her community if that makes any sense? She’s such a great streamer and person tho! Her growth has been astronomical in my opinion. To then have this happen to her that affects everyone... it really blows I wish her and her mom the best. Sadge that gifts and meet and greets won’t be happening anymore, but maybe... she could set a throne? I know is not the same as a handmade gift, but one can’t really blame her for the decision she made. It’s at least something that can show how much her community cares about her In any case, wish her, her mom and her community the best to make it through this rough patch
@buildinasentry104612 күн бұрын
Blood boiling. Scum exists and it lingers in every stretch of human civilization. I feel so bad that she had to go through this
@Danielathan13 күн бұрын
I'm not a Camila fan, and I don't get emotional, but I had to fight so hard to hold the tears back. This is so horribly heartbreaking. I can't even imagine the terror and trauma she's going through, and her poor mother too. You can tell how much she loved interacting with her fans, but now it's too dangerous for her to do so. What's even worse is that this won't be contained to just her: other streamers will now have to be even more cautious about this.
@the98themperoroftheholybri3314 күн бұрын
I'd recommend getting a PO Box or having an alternate address to havr things delivered too. There are devices which pick up tracking devices, so I'd recommend she get one of those. It sucks she needs to resort to that but its necessary
@Chestyfriend13 күн бұрын
If you cater to this kind of audience those are the most basic steps you should take for your own security. People may say it's victim blaming, but it's nothing short of due diligence.
@DeviousHands13 күн бұрын
@@Chestyfriendthis isn't catering, this is literally just having one, even if you remove every avenue to access you if somebody's invested enough they will find a way
@Chestyfriend13 күн бұрын
@@DeviousHands You can at least make it hard for them. Again, I'm not blaming her for being the victim of a lunatic, I'm saying the way her address got exposed could have easily been prevented, especially considering she's an internet person using an anime avatar so you know there might be some unhinged "fans".
@alexpiatt12826 күн бұрын
@@Chestyfriend being a Vtuber IS one of the basic steps people take for their own security. The average fan has no idea what she looks like, and the fact that incidents like this happen as infrequently as they do is proof of how well that works. If someone is dedicated enough to finding out where someone lives, they will do it no matter how many obstacles you put in the way. If this dude was able to put a tracker in a gift and drive all the way to where she lives, he was going to find out one way or another no matter how many precautions she took. An idol was tracked down by the reflection of her eye in a picture: people who are that dedicated will find a way no matter what. The best way to prevent this from happening again to other Vtubers is to react appropriately to this incident and make it VERY clear that we don't tolerate stalkers.
@Chestyfriend6 күн бұрын
@@alexpiatt1282 What are you talking about? What is you saying words on the internet going to do to stop a stalker? Using a PO box and checking all items for tampering/hidden devices is what's going to stop a stalker, not you white knighting on the internet. People like you need a reality check.
@bhupendrasidar503514 күн бұрын
This video almost made me cry until the tomato soup ad, thanks for lifting camilia's mood
@Techmaster7032Official7 күн бұрын
One person turned a dream home into a nightmare. Beyond disgraceful.
@stevensteviepryde588811 күн бұрын
The worst part is I'm sure that the reason the person did this was just for the satisfaction of knowing that they could get into people's heads by doing it
@Izoowoo15 күн бұрын
this whole thing has been so fucking nuts. so stupid anyone thought this behavior was ok enough to do this. camimi doesnt deserve it. she's been so from the heart from the start
@Allustar14 күн бұрын
People like that guy that broke into her house do it because they genuinely believe Camilla loves them. They're fucked up people.
@tommyvercetti16514 күн бұрын
Pretty obvious that someone that does something like this is not OK in the head
@Misanthropolis14 күн бұрын
@@tommyvercetti165 yeah i mean this is a clear cut case of pure mental unwellness. A lack of respect for someone else's privacy? Obsessive AND aggressive behavior? Come on, this was pure insanity.
@Izoowoo14 күн бұрын
@@tommyvercetti165 you say that like it excuses it
@Inferryu14 күн бұрын
@@Izoowoo Learn to differentiate between a reason and an excuse, or are you going to tell me that this ass was perfectly fine of mind by doing what he did? You can have a reason for doing things, doesn't mean it's a valid one or that the things you do will be OK, or that you shouldn't be held responsible for doing them.
@thatguyjared856013 күн бұрын
Props to Tomato Soup guy for helping to put a smile back on her face.
@K-dis_Boher14 күн бұрын
such a good "friend" that lunatic is, huh?
@NormalCardBoardBoxes11 күн бұрын
The fucking audacity that loser said when he was caught…what a piece of shit…
@finnegan896913 күн бұрын
Was playing random videos of vtubers clips in he background, and i wasn't expecting this sad clip to played and can't help to get teary hearing the tragedy befallen her, fuck that one guy
@HoldenFalsch13 күн бұрын
All it takes is one person. Its tragic that it happened, but this is the best outcome for the situation. It could have ended with someone being not here.
@NeekoStrim13 күн бұрын
I’ve never been in this exact situation but i know what it means to live in fear every single moment. This kind of shit really tests your limit and sometimes it never completely goes away. I’m sure she’ll feel better eventually but her life changed forever for a single crazy person…
@ozarazil574513 күн бұрын
She must feel responsible because her family is also in danger because of this guy
@s0me1newithhand7s14 күн бұрын
tomato soup ad, i'm fucking dying of laughter LMFAO
@neo753810 күн бұрын
I know how it feels. Building your own house only to be ruined by someone or some group. Stay strong, Cami 👍
@Alkimachos14 күн бұрын
y'all know that image of a horse on the beach staring into the horizon with a long face and the text "MAN" in the sky?
@TheRealJohnux13 күн бұрын
Seen it used in a meme with Guts Soundtrack in the bg.
@Bakuganluver2310 күн бұрын
that's what it feels like?
@sneakytaze533613 күн бұрын
I don't watch vTubers usually as it ain't really for me. But this is genuinely sad and I feel bad for her. Crazy how people like that exist.
@brightwolfz6 күн бұрын
I think giving up your dream home and gifts from fans is almost like letting them win. "If I can't have you, no one can" kind of mentality. IDK how much this person makes, but, tbh, if they are big enough, say you are moving, hire some security, and have some screening people for gifts at events to spite them and continue doing what you love. Do a fundraiser for it and I am sure peeps would help raise that money. You shouldn't have to give up things you love for people like that. I guess that would cost a fortune and is unrealistic to a degree. I only know of this person from this event in general, but I wish them the best no matter what the future holds for them. Much love.
@suruxstrawde83225 күн бұрын
A g r e e d, she should absolutely dig her heels in with this one. But from what I can tell her personality is a lot closer to fear than fighting.
@kitsunesden80859 күн бұрын
I literally just got recommended this video, I've never seen her before today, but I really hope she gets better soon enough, and that the weirdo goes to jail for at least 10 years.
@alexagain852014 күн бұрын
SunSpotzz got that unintentionally funny rizz, nothing is more powerful than that Hope camimi can get through this tough time
@chaudspieler8 күн бұрын
Poor Camimi! She doesn't deserve these horrible things happening to her! I hope that stalker freak is locked up and never sees the light of day again!! He's the definition of a MONSTER!!
@filipovixx14 күн бұрын
We should all absolutely give her the ability to build another dream house Though that would be extremely hard, might as well give it a shot
@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer14 күн бұрын
Poor Cami, she really doesn't deserve all that. Glad she and her mom are safe, but man, I really want to know what possessed the dude to think that was fine to do.
@guywithmanyname524713 күн бұрын
That dude clearly has bad plans if he gone that far
@deathdragon12 күн бұрын
I hope one day we can see her beautiful smile once again, what happened to her isn't fair. Shes done nothing wrong and this is what she gets? A person who stalks her, lies to the cops, and traumatizes her and her family? I know what it's like to have to fear every second that someone is watching you, and it really messes you up. Maybe when she's ready, she can do like IronMouse and be a screen, not irl. I wouldn't ever ask her to risk her well being and try again, I respect her decision. It is also awful that a place she once loved and felt safe in was now ruined.
@purple_fox_arts7 күн бұрын
Noo it's so hard to see camila cry :
@diogovilab14 күн бұрын
Man, this sucks! No one should go through this 😢
@leokicklighter82874 күн бұрын
I had the pleasure of meeting Camilla at Weebcon; she was extremely genial and welcoming, even though I freely admitted I was hardly a regular to her streams (I mostly watch her through collabs) and just wanted to say hi and inform her of the excellent Lebanese restaurant nearby, as she's the only Vtuber I'm aware of who shares that ethnic background with me and would be able to appreciate the experience. This whole incident is beyond appalling and in a civilized nation would carry the death penalty. I'm glad no one was physically hurt and hopefully this freak gets what he deserves for irreparably harming not just Camila, but her family, friends, community, and Vtubing as a whole.
@bonogiamboni483013 күн бұрын
First that one dumbass who assaulted keekihime at a con, and now this stalker who showed up at camila's house. It's fucked that people are willing to do this stuff.
@EdgeCorp10 күн бұрын
This is incredibly depressing to hear, I don't watch Camila at all nor did I know about her until this happened, but look at how one incident can practically ruin a Vtuber's career and possibly her life. Because of this she can no longer accept gifts, has to remain even more secluded than before, can't do meet n greets, lost her dream home, think about how dystopian this all feels. I hope she can recover from this, but I sense that a graduation or a hiatus is imminent unfortunately. Sad day for everyone truly.
@logjamstudios19636 күн бұрын
To be loved is great. Its cool to see someone get so big, but being big... it can hurt so easily and be ruined so quickly. I feel so sorry for her man. A dream house built themselves? God damn, that hurts to have to leave...
@flamingscar52637 күн бұрын
This is why content creation isn't the dream job it seems like People are creeps, genuinely disgusting I hope the best for her future and that she never has to go through anything nearly this traumatizing ever again
@drpretzel208612 күн бұрын
The instinct to give you a hug and tell you it’s gonna be alright. The way my grandmother would, things like happen are triggering in my brain.
@emptyarthaus953515 күн бұрын
I feel so bad for her and so mad at this wierdo.
@a_wooden_block14 күн бұрын
IT IS ON SIGHT WHEN I FIND THIS GUY I SWEAR
@shi_no_kurai_kage12 күн бұрын
@@a_wooden_block oh, HE PISSED SOMEONE OFF ALRIGHT HE'D BETTER BE GLAD THAT I DON'T HAVE A PASSPORT
@Ranesbane7 күн бұрын
Poor sweet girl. That really sucks. Would be nice if she could get gifts sent to someone she trusts and they check it out and then send it to her privately
@TrueOrions-TrueOrions13 күн бұрын
I feel so bad for her, I don't really know anything about her except for what happened to her and my heart aches for her. No one should have to go through this. Praying for her.
@mark-gj4mb6 күн бұрын
This along with Nene getting robbed and Korone getting threats, things are crazy rn. At least with these things the criminal charges are pretty clear cut, but going to court as a vtuber must be pretty daunting
@josephulianna948014 күн бұрын
And for one of you, the darkest pits of hell have opened up to swallow you whole, don’t keep the devil waiting old friend. That’s the perfect quote for this situation.
@TheFusedHybrid7 сағат бұрын
It is a shame that absolute creeps exist only to shatter people who are just doing what they love. The worst part is that either they don't care what their actions can cause or are oblivious to what damage they can do.
@Papa-Corn13 күн бұрын
Wow. So no more meet & greets, no more gifts, have to sell house built from scratch, and non-stop anxiety of a repeat event. Guy didn’t get away with anything and yet he sure did inflict a lot of damage.
@thanthtetaung42798 күн бұрын
I've only see her once in a while in KZbin shorts and the breaking in news. But man this made me hella sad just thinking about how her new fans can't meet her anymore, and her not being able to give that feeling to them (5:25). some people, they just have to ruin it for everyone...
@kzman117314 күн бұрын
Remember people There's always psychos out there And they aren't going to change, so be safe
@KeirnothVT6 күн бұрын
Also blessed be the chatter with the random tomato soup ad to give her a chuckle.
@KWifler14 күн бұрын
It's so surreal to see how different things get when someone knows you vs you just being a random stranger to them. They treat you differently. Idk if I'll ever really understand it.
@petrmatejka494514 күн бұрын
Uhh... Don't want to be a moron, but things like this happen even between people who know each other
@ZoelQuinn6 күн бұрын
@@petrmatejka4945 no shit?
@numberz01011 күн бұрын
yeah people are crazy these days man, you can never be too careful
@thetraveler268013 күн бұрын
Poor Camila. It sounded like she genuinely does love her fans and especially loved doing meet and greets with 'em. Now she can't do it anymore because some psychotic para-social schizo had to ruin it. I can't blame her for not wanting to do it anymore after the break in, but it is genuinely sad. I feel really bad for her.
@robinfox44407 күн бұрын
Anti-stalking laws are not strong enough.
@DTBluesreviews13 күн бұрын
This is really sad nobody should have to be forced out of their home because of some dickhead stalker i hope her and her family stay safe
@KMorningstar6668 күн бұрын
I feel bad for Cami. She shouldn't have gone through this, it's a real bummer that a freak like him would do something like this to her. 😢
@pyr0.0414 күн бұрын
Poor, Camila. 😢❤
@hamiltonsullivan65635 күн бұрын
Nah fam.. I wouldn't lose your home to this creep. It's time to get some fences and security! Stand strong!
@sarco513812 күн бұрын
This is fuckin depressing man. Moving out of a house you got build yourself is such a horrible thing. Hope Camilla and her mom recover well.
@supersai-raptor51679 күн бұрын
She was fearing for her life who know what that stalker would have done..and what’s worse she’s having to leave something she built all because of some lunatic who took their obsessive fantasy too far…this is one of the few times where I think jail may be too easy for someone.
@smaragdwolf114 күн бұрын
sounds like the type of Guy who would go online and brag about what he did -.- and i hope he does, so the whole community knows who to put on a very special "meeting" list. I wonder if there would have been a possible alternative regarding the gifts. Like a seperate location, where the Gifts get collected and checked, before going to the Streamer. That tracking devices could be misused for Stalking was one of the first Concerns when the Apple airtags got introduced. Its really sad that it only takes one asshole to ruin the whole dynamic between a Streamer and the fanbase. Probably not only in this Case but for many Streamers. ...... hope that individual gets so much trouble in every aspect of their life, that it deters everyone else who attempt such crimes.
@wolfsongrising8 күн бұрын
the poor dear. I don't know her or anything about her really, but I remember seeing the situation in a video and just, listening to this...man, I don't wish that on anybody. Poor thing. Hope and pray she can find a new home, a new dream, that's safer and better than everything she's leaving behind.
@NewWorldOrgone14 күн бұрын
Sadly, Twitch doesn't attract the best of us
@FiveNightsAtFilians7 күн бұрын
Im sorry to hear of your misfortune Mademoiselle Cami, but it brings a smile to my face and a comfort to my heart to hear your ok. May it be but a small thing to make you smile for the journey ahead for you and yours. *wipes eye*
@nateroo148614 күн бұрын
I hope there will be some way she can still receive gifts and do IRL stuff, probably a security manager or some third party to pass them through to check for trackers or as a personal body guard. I don't blame her if she doesn't do that though, sometimes the risk is too much after something that traumatizing. I really wish her the best.
@TerminatorYT-wz5jgКүн бұрын
My God, Why must people be so Cruel sometimes, like how can they get pleasure and joy out of RUINING A PERSONS LIFE...I hope that guy is incarcerated for a very long time and that he someday learns how horrible it feels to have something like that happen, I'm going to be praying for Camila and I hope that whether she's religious or not, that God will be with her and will help her get back on her feet so she may return to her old, caring, Fun, and Loving Self, God Bless you all and I'm glad to see that Camimi still has supporters that care about her
@adarkwind47126 күн бұрын
Aaaand this is why people keep guns. You never know who's out there.
@suruxstrawde83225 күн бұрын
Guns, traps, locks, trick doors, dogs, it's never really too much if you just do it intelligently.
@NicoNicoNessieSub2 күн бұрын
She already owns one
@dragoonmk42034 күн бұрын
My god... I'm so sorry, Cami. *hug of emotional support*
@glitchytoonzproductions14 күн бұрын
Nobody deserves this. I'm glad She and her family are safe.
@kawa198414 күн бұрын
oh, yet another one. i watched the previous vid you uploaded and even commented on that, but i just got so many thoughts to share. im not even a regular on camila's channel at all, i only know her through neuro, but im an artist and i worked for her, and she is like so insanely sweet, i can hardly imagine why would someone think of doing harm to her. i feel so bad for her, and especially for the fact i cant do much to help. yet again, just gotta hope she'll be safe :^(
@umaninstrumentalityprject29894 күн бұрын
I still stand by the fact that booby-traps should be legal, if an intruder trespasses, they lose their ground