Camp Runamuck - Nick Knacks Episode

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In the summer of 1990, the first cable network for kids brought back Camp Nickelodeon, and with it another retro baby boomer-era sitcom, Camp Runamuck, a forgotten show made from grown-ups, sold to kids. But it turns out this brief six-week run of the show was a small part of a larger plot, one battlefield in the war between Viacom and HBO. We're going down a rabbit hole in this one, folks.
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[@meltdownremix1996]

Im learning wayyyy more than I ever needed to know about the midcentury USA sitcom hellscape with this series. What a curveball about the channel scheming that was! No matter the subject, Nick Knacks is never boring.

[@urzaz]

Perfectly said. It's been a wild ride so far, for sure. Not what I expected from the Nickelodeon show.

[@kevynonvideo1643]

(Dripping with sarcasm) "Because if there's one thing kids want to do with their summer break away from school, it's watch 30-year-old domestic sitcoms" Me: Oh no, was I a weird kid?

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

We Gen X'ers/early Millennials had it weird.

[@sapphyreblayze]

The second half of this episode was exactly the kind of thing I come to this channel for - such an interesting look at the behind the scenes political maneuvering of the cable industry. Who woulda thought you could draw a direct line between such an obscure show as Camp Runamuck and South Park?

[@MultiMal3]

Nick Knacks: Come for the retrospectives on obscure 60 year old sitcoms that were aired because they were cheap, stay for the spilled tea about the absurd warfare between major cable megacorps.

[@Halalmeat5000rh]

And eventually the Nicktoons.

[@jeffharrisTXB]

Great video as usual, but a bit of a clarification. Paramount never owned Viacom. Viacom was initially the syndication arm of CBS, CBS Television Film Sales, in 1952. It was renamed CBS Films in 1958, CBS Enterprises in 1968, and Viacom in 1970 shortly before it was spun off because of FCC regulations forbidding broadcast networks from owning syndication units. Incidentally, Paramount owned 49% of CBS from 1929 to 1952, the year Viacom's direct predecessor was founded. The history of CBS, Paramount, and Viacom are so twisted. Plus the whole thing's moot since it's all Paramount now. That is all. This has been another edition of Useless Facts.

[@TimothyMischka]

Twisted is one word. Another would be "an endlessly-repeating food chain".

[@weirdotzero7065]

Viacom, CBS, and Paramount have had more break ups and rekindles than an average prime time sitcom love triangle.

[@JimmySand9]

Also, Paramount would sell their shares in CBS in 1932, not 1952.

[@estherastudillo8647]

2004 CBS Super Bowl Halftime show presented by MTV.

[@MaliceInCandyland]

Imagine Paramount objecting to mergers, now that they're about to merge with Sony.

[@Tirgo69]

"You may already know the basics here, especially if you're a Mystery Science Theater 3000 fan" Damn it, he got me!

[@KaiserBeamz]

Finally! Someone explaining the difference between The Comedy Channel and Ha!

[@Clay3613]

Hey you!

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Yep, Comedy Channel was stand-up and original comedy, Ha! was reruns and loss leader crap.

[@meyerj75]

@@ChristopherSobieniak Anyone remember Chase and Random Acts of Variety? Neither do I, but they used to be on HA! before.

[@masterkill165]

I can't help but see the connection to this and the cartoon network show camp Lazlo

[@CrowRider1999]

I never knew HBO and Viacom had so much history. Gotta say, Viacom’s impressive with the lawsuit to stop HBO’s merger. Also, it kind of makes the HBOMax vs Paramount+ thing feel like a Hatfields and McCoys type of deal- Especially with South Park (but that was mainly Matt and Trey 4D-chessing their asses).

[@charleybarley939]

Hollywood writer David Witbeck, in a 1970 profile of Dave Madden, referred to Camp Runamuck as "David Swift's Disaster."

[@rdoino2210]

“Marge!!! Is Lisa at camp Granada ?”

[@cityhawk]

“Hello Mother. Hello Father. I’m here at Camp Granada.” 😂

[@bullmonty764]

Everyone knows that, culturally, there were two 60s - the fluffy, lightweight era of Sugar Shack and a billion dance crazes, and the super serious, politically-charged era of Creedence and Woodstock. IMO, Hello Muddah Hello Faddah charted in the absolute perfect middle ground. It belongs in the era where, yes, Kennedy was dead and the Cuban Missile Crisis was very, very fresh, but at the same time the decade hadn’t gone off the rails just yet, and hence, novelty songs could get radio play in-between the Beatles and the Supremes

[@mightyfilm]

It's just no "Eat It" or "Like a Surgeon."

[@Scarybug]

My Grade School principal played this song over the PA at least once in the 80s when I was a kid. It was baffling.

[@pronkb000]

Man, as an 8-year-old cable junkie of this era, the HA!-Comedy Channel stuff confused the hell out of me and the last part of this video was absolutely fascinating. We got Comedy Channel on our cable system, but my grandparents got HA! And then somehow when they merged, we didn't get CTV/Comedy Central at first. HA! had way more penetration if you believe the MST3K crew. In their Amazing Colossal Episode Guide, they talked about the incessant experience of telling people they were on "the Comedy Channel," only to get the response, "Oh, you mean HA!"

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

I was 13, it was good times.

[@ETownLive]

Another Pop Arena classic. Come for the obscure TV show, stay for the even more obscurer lore!

[@freakfoxvevo7915]

What I expected: another "the past was a mistake" show covered by PA in his usual tone What I got: a retrospective of a corporate WWE-like storyline cooked up by HBO and Viacom

[@Lynn17]

I seriously did not see that coming and it was fascinating as hell.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

@@Lynn17 It was worth it.

[@samwill7259]

The more I learn about it, the more I'm sure that the Time Warner merger should never have been able to go through.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

True, look what it's left in its wake?

[@jixbyphillips]

Would have happily hung with an entire video about Camp Runamuck, but when you switched gears to the HA! retrospective, I cheered. If I had to do a Nick Knacks style series about a cable network I'd wanna do Comedy Channel/Ha/Comedy Central, for sure. Thanks for your continued service. Nick Knacks is great and special.

[@FlashTimberwolf]

Seeing all those old bumpers for HBO, Comedy Central, and other cable channels brought so much nostalgia.

[@animefan25]

I've never heard of Camp Runamuck. The only summer camp-centric show I remember from Nickelodeon is Salute Your Shorts.

[@newstarcadefan]

Same, If anything this show is just as obscure as the Bad News Bears.

[@theblarneystone1023]

Who else is excited for the Wild and Crazy Kids episode in the year 4052?

[@Musicradio77Network]

Or as Zagar & Evans would say “In The Year 2525”.

[@Jamessmith-xk3fh]

I like this channel because I'm 38 and finding out about shows I don't remember on Nickelodeon that aired while I was school age

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

Another one I'm surprised I have no memory of. And I loved summer camp stuff, I must have watched my copy of the original Parent Trap 100 times, not to mention Salute Your Shorts and movies like Heavyweights and Camp Nowhere (funny how summer camp became trendy for a hot minute) I also really appreciate all the times I see MST3K pop up in this series. Keep circulating the tapes!

[@EmperorSeth]

I have no memory of this one, either, but I can't exactly say that it was a surprise. Salute Your Shorts this isn't.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

@@EmperorSeth it's like if the Bad News Bears tv show focused on the coaches. It's too silly to be a real show for adults, but too grownup to appeal to kids.

[@wanderinggstars]

To be fair I remember one summer as a child watching the Brady bunch and partridge family on TVLand/MeTV. I was very intrigued by retro sitcoms

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

It happens. I'm sure I wanted to live vicariously through my parents' lives.

[@JetstreamGW]

I was born in '83, so I was awakening to a functional brain around the time Nick and Nick at Nite started getting good. Dick Van Dyke, Mary Tyler Moore, and Don Adams are the fuckin' best.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

@@JetstreamGW Yeah I saw Nick at Nite at it's earliest when it was Donna Reed, My Three Sons and Public Domain movies all night long.

[@vgtrp]

I don't remember this show airing on Nickelodeon at all, While the show may not that interesting to talk about, or having anything memorable about it, what I find for more interesting is the history of Ha. I always love finding about the history of cable channels and this one didn't disappoint. I didn't know about the issues between Viacom and HBO, so it was interesting to find out about that part of the story.

[@ktujon]

I first heard about this show whenever Comedy Central debuted

[@sidkrantz9533]

At 0:00 , you did what Nick should’ve done in airing the last two episodes of ST:PRO’s first season - some kind of memorial for Nichelle. So thank you.

[@xxthatsnotmexx]

"The bears can't be that ba- OH GOOD GOD!!" 😂🫠😱😱😱

[@jbanks979]

Every terrible sitcom joke: this is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen on this channel Talking monster bear puppets: is this show art? The Knick knacks about the real misses are almost more interesting in their own way (the Ha Story was by far the most interesting part of this)

[@darktetsuya]

camp runamuck is another one I really don't remember, but the HA!/Comedy Central story was a nice bonus.

[@meyerj75]

Sadly, and this is true, you would have to be at least 35 years old to remember this came on Nickelodeon during the 5:00 PM EST time block around July & August of 1990 along with a mystery show that came after like Family Double Dare, Livin' In, Wild And Crazy Kids, SK8 TV, and Candid Camera (from its first two years).

[@michaelturner2806]

This is another early one that I have absolutely zero recollection of at all. And I remember the hours upon hours of Pinwheel. I thought Salute Your Shorts was going to be the first camp themed Nick show.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Apparently not. At least Salute Our Shorts was of a co-ed summer camp, something kids didn't have 30 years before.

[@iam9991000]

You know the show sucks when the commercials are the best part.

[@newstarcadefan]

This is an interesting episode. I didn't even know all that drama with HBO and Viacom. However...I only knew of Salute your Shorts then.

[@zandercruz3487]

I loved this show! I can barely remember it, but I would always make a plate of fish sticks before for some reason, and laugh myself silly as a kid watching. I mean, we really didnt see them as "old" TV programs as many of them were on in syndication, like I love Lucy, or Gilligan's Island, as much a part of watching TV as Cheers, or the Golden Girls. They didnt exist so much as from another decade as they were just a thing on TV! And I do remember "HA!", well more their wacky ads as we didnt get it on my cable system, and I was so disappointed.

[@dantheman8103]

I didn't see this show. But I remember watching a lot of the Boomer Sitcoms on Nickelodeon and Nick at Night. Such as Dennis the Menacoe (which I loved as a kid), Lassie, My Three sons and even Donna Reed. I think PA doesn't take into account that when most of this stuff aired on Nick originally it wasn't THAT old. it was like how today younger people not even born yet fondly watch Full House or Friends.

[@Gannooch]

I’m glad that he talked about HA! But what Greg didn’t mention was this. on April Fools Day night in 1990, Nickelodeon (yes, that Nickelodeon) aired a four hour preview of the channel from 7P Eastern until 11. It must have been a last minute decision because the preview wasn't mentioned in my local TV guide (It might have been mentioned in TV Guide magazine). I am sure that all those parents who let their kids watch Nick at 7p, loved the fact that Nick was showing a show that wasn't made for kids at that time. Funny thing is that my cable system up in NJ preempted Nick at Nite so the preview in my area lasted for only an hour.

[@yszman6478]

A bit of a nip pick but you could have told us more of what the cast went onto after the show, I mean you have Dave Madden for example no mention of Ruben Kincard on the Partridge Family, and wanted to know more about that Los Vegas show girl that was in the cast.

[@PersephoneDarling28]

Oh yeah that would've been neat

[@yszman6478]

@@PersephoneDarling28 And between Nina Wayne on this show, the women on Get Smart weather it is Barbara Fealden herself or the female Kaos agents, the women of the 60's were an extra kind of sexy. Yes I know if they are alive, they be in their 80's but that doesn't matter.

[@KaseyWynne]

I didn't expect the secret origin of Ha. I remember seeing ads for it, but I didn't think it merged so quickly. I had assumed they just renamed it after like 5 years, or something.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

It took a while, it happened around the summer of '91.

[@Trekpanther]

One would think at this point that those who complain about you pointing out the dated stereotypes and bad humor tropes would realize to give up and realize that even if shit was made in their time doesn't mean that those watching it today need to view those things in a 1960s lens.

[@PersephoneDarling28]

they've got an incredibly narrow and frankly ironically sensitive outlook on media. there's nothing wrong with pointing out flaws

[@candidgamera]

Louisville - "Loo-uh-vuhl", for the record. Another great video, though! :)

[@davidmatoushek9111]

I don't know if I can take the slander on Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh. It got into the National Recording Registry for a reason. Even Sgt. Pepper got in the Registry prior to that song.

[@notchuckproductions5029]

I just wanted wanted to say while at work in my college special collections, I found that we had a bunch of Camp Runamuck Scripts for some reason, and it blew my mind

[@charleybarley939]

Interesting discovery!

[@tardiswhovian]

So, next time is Flipper, huh? …brownie points if he brings up Flipper and Lopaka, and extra brownie points if ANY of you even know that series!

[@pronkb000]

Many episodes ago I said Inspector Gadget had an inner-circle Hall of Fame theme song. Flipper is the Marvelous Marv Throneberry of TV theme songs. (Look it up.)

[@EmmaKittyKat]

What kind of brownie point do I get if I ONLY knew Flipper and Lopaka?

[@williamcrowe2576]

While I don't remember "Camp Runnamuck", I do remember "Wild and Crazy Kids". Particularly the episodes that featured Human Space Invaders and a karate demolition crew.

[@gatorboymike]

Camp Runamuck, we hold you in our hearts, and when we think about you, it makes me wanna fart! ...What?

[@RazorBeamz]

Camp Lazlo was obviously a reference to this show.

[@CletusHunnicutt]

Large Marge sent me.

[@jamesmoss3424]

Camp 🏕 Runamuck is new to me. 😀👍

[@brutalboy1000]

That clip of Lancelot Link plays really differently after watching Nope.

[@Rych3rInLyf3]

I vaugly remember this airing on Nick, but theres no question that this was the inspiration to Salute Your Shorts. I mean come on. Camp Runamunk. Camp Anawanna (Camp I Dont Wanna). Im surprised nobody in the comments has connected the two.

[@mikesilva3868]

Never heard of this show 💛🚨

[@abraveastronaut]

"We have the theme from The Great Escape at home." The theme from The Great Escape at home: 0:35

[@morbidsearch]

Yas new episode! It's almost midnight in Ireland but I will watch this tomorrow when my mind is fresh

[@morbidsearch]

Now that I've watched it - I had no idea Comedy Central had been around for so long, because here it was called Paramount Comedy until the late 2000s

[@tubesocksbrigade3031]

I remembered Camp Runamuck. Aired on NBC originally in 1965 and got clobbered in the ratings by Wild Wild West on CBS and The Flintstones on ABC. Not the best show but it was a cute show. Fortunately for Dave Madden he would be on "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In" 3 years later and then in '70, he found success on The Partridge Family

[@LeftyPem]

Thank you for calling out the two WORST eras of stand up. At least now I know it's not just my opinion.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Hey, that's my wife! ;-)

[@ivane5110]

Funny even though the shows name was known by the kids in my area, none of us new where it came from; it was just a joke name for any lame or out of control summer camp or adult-run kids grouping. I never would've expected it to be a show focused on adults. Interesting. Which is more than I would've said of the show itself, even though it was just a few years before my time and numerous shows were still done with the same comedy sensibilities. But I can say we probably would've enjoyed it if it were done similar the kids centric scenes you showed.

[@aestroai8012]

I skimmed through Camp Snorefest until you got into HA. These were two things I don't remember about the early 90's, but I find it fascinating how much work goes into just re-airing old TV. I couldn't agree with you more about the two lamest stand up comedy eras being the early 80's and now. I respect your opinion of how cringe old TV was, but I like how it shows how far we've grown as a nation. Last year I was analyzing the wasted potential of Gidget, and how much more powerful some of those scripts could have been. Hope somebody's archiving this show!

[@meltdownremix1996]

Maybe this is just me as an argentinian with zero knowledge of USA Summer Camp Culture outside of movies, but as forgotten as Runamuck was, it kind of reminded me of Camp Lazlo. Was Lazlo directly parodying Runamuck, or is all USA Summer Camp Stuff like that?

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I think it's more a case of the "summer camp" trope than anything. There were so many different shows and movies in the 80s and 90s, like Ernest Goes to Camp, Salute Your Shorts, Heavyweights, Camp Nowhere, the Parent Trap remake, the Kamp Krusty episode of The Simpsons, Bushwacked, etc etc.

[@meltdownremix1996]

@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 I see, out of all of these I only watched the 90s Parent Trap and Lazlo, everything else was more of a cultural osmosis thing I guess. You learn something new every day.

[@pronkb000]

Yeah, a lot of those were just playing the same tropes. Seems every camp comedy had a nerd, a fat kid, a jock, a tomboy, and a sadistic counselor who thought he was a Marine drill instructor. Oh, and let's not forget Addams Family Values in this list.

[@LikaLaruku]

Never watched this one. Don't even remember hearing about it.

[@meyerj75]

The opening looks familiar. Although never mentioned, the set looks like it took place at Lake Compounce, Bristol, Connecticut which also has a lake like CR. And those bears are so anti Sid and Marty Krofft like. If the Krofft brothers took over production duties of CR than Screen Gems, they would have made this more like Salute Your Shorts.

[@jehobden]

Camp RUNAMUCK was a Screen Gems (Columbia) production, meaning Sony would own it now. It had poor affiliate clearance on NBC affililates too, which I'm sure hurt its overall ratings. I loved Comedy Central in its early years before Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert started shoving their politics down people's throats.

[@TigerNightmare]

I remember really enjoying the Nickelodeon reruns as a kid, but the only thing I can remember is the girls camp annoying the boys camp counselors every morning with their "good morning to you" song. I didn't even remember what the show was called until now.

[@jeffthevideoguy23]

I thought I'd seen everything. But I never heard of this.

[@lainiwakura1776]

Sadly, the dolphin who played Flipper, did not have a good time after the show ended. But hey! Flipper!

[@JenMistress]

So, if the airing on Nick or Ha was the last time it aired, no wonder I've never heard of it before. I mean still before I was born, so relying on mum and dad having any episodes on tape, which they didn't.

[@doryna_sira]

After seeing those bears, I can say I miss the creepy clowns now.

[@VahanNisanian]

Nina West is the sister of the late Carol Wayne, Johnny Carson's Tea Time girl.

[@jccw227]

I have no memory of this at all, and I watched Nickelodeon religiously around this time.

[@JetstreamGW]

Hey, if you're right, all I gotta say is "Well fuckin' played, Viacom." Oh god, Flipper. I got so sick of Flipper.

[@shmikex]

Are we almost at Wild and Crazy Kids? You've mentioned it in the last four videos :P

[@stvojay]

Now that I watched the whole video, I really did like the Comedy Channel/Ha! TV perspective. How funny Viacom was making a comedy channel after HBO announces one. I sort of have memories of Ha!/CTV for pre-Comedy Central but not too much. The HBO style seemed a lot better and MST3K coming out was a huge win.

[@japstoryeditor]

I can’t wait until The Ren & Stimpy episode. I have a gut feeling that one is going to be 2 hours long or a multi parter. The segment on Games Animation emerging from that debacle is at least one hour on to itself.

[@willkirwan]

So when you started to describe this I was like 'wait isn't this Camp Lazlo basically?' And despite so many similarities, I can't find anything linking these two. That is genuinely surprising.

[@PersephoneDarling28]

that's a real hot take you got going with Stand Up Comedy these days

[@Scarybug]

It's strange hearing that Comedy Central was TCI's idea. TCI in my home town (Madison, WI) loudly and publicly refused to include Comedy Central. We didn't get it until after MST3K had already moved to Sci Fi Channel. I think it was South Park that finally forced it, but also TCI was no longer the cable company in Madison at that point, I think. I'm a little hazy on all that history.

[@nomadcowatbk]

Did you get the SciFI channel?

[@nomadcowatbk]

some places had VH1 and Comedy Central sharing the same channel slot and switching between them in the evening or morning

[@Scarybug]

@@nomadcowatbk yeah we got sci fi. I was only finally able to watch MST3K when it moved to sci fi. We had VH1 but it didn't switch over. It was a point of contention in the local media that we didn't get Comedy Central here and cable monopolies meant there was no way to get it.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Camp Runamuck does pull the "Reverse Psychology" trope in one episode that did annoyed me as a 12 year old (the tomboy episode you brought up).

[@stephenholloway6893]

Pretty much when Time bought Warner Communications was how they got back in the cable television business far as cable channels goes. As we know this wouldn't be the last merger between Warner and other companies (like Turner) let alone Viacom buying an movie studio a few years later (Paramount). Plus nearly 10 years ago Viacom bought Warner's cable channels they had.

[@RubyNemesis]

They wouldn't debut the comedy central globe logo until the august after they merged if the MST3K tapes from that era are any indication.

[@Lynn17]

Also the Maureen episode is hilarious when you consider The Brady Bunch had multiple episodes where Marcia flexed her feminist muscles. Including one where she insisted a girl could be a Frontier Scout and passed every test with flying colors. (Only to beg off when she got in because she "just wanted to prove she could". Eh, 1971.)

[@nomadcowatbk]

no mention of Vietnam on the brady bunch

[@Lynn17]

@@nomadcowatbk Yeah, the most political it got was the generation gap and the battle of the sexes. Even the actual school election episode was about family bonds and being nice to your opponent.

[@Lynn17]

@@nomadcowatbk Actually I was wrong, we had the episode about Jesse James where Bobby learned not to worship killers and play with toy guns. And considering the rise in mass shootings over the last few years, it's a very relevant episode.

[@jdenoe69]

RIP

[@NoraQRosa]

wild that this show had a character who expresses what now would be recognized as extremely queer, arguably transmasc feelings and then treats it as a joke and as something to get the character to stop feeling. A better-written version of that episode done today would've likely been so much less cisnormative and could've probably helped a lot of young trans and gender nonconforming kids come to terms with their gender identity, especially if it still had a conclusion where Maureen stays at Camp Runamuck instead of at Camp Devine. But, then, I don't expect better from a clearly conservative-aimed '60s show.

[@MouseRants]

Yes, the worst era of stand up IS right now. Unfortunately, people don't understand that if something is not for you, just don't listen to it (or watch it). It's really not that hard.

[@PersephoneDarling28]

stand up is better now than at any time though! So much more diversity in voices

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

I knew you get to this eventually.

[@PersephoneDarling28]

Camp Runamuck Looks cute but very inessential. Maybe one episode of good stuff in it. The origins of Comedy Central is super interesting

[@nathanlenneman9987]

Minor detail, but did you pronounce Louisville (Loo-uh-vul) as “Luis-ville”? I really like this series and appreciate the time and research you put into it, but I wish you would put more time into learning proper pronunciations. I can understand some of the more obscure proper names. I wouldn’t expect you to be perfect, but a name pronunciation as almost universally known as Louisville’s warrants a bit more care and a higher expectation. I know it’s mostly irrelevant to the topic at hand but I just thought I’d point it out since it’s been driving me a bit insane.

[@SpongeyTheEditor]

With the rival girl's camp thing, did Camp Lazlo take inspiration from this? Figured I'd say this but nothing on the corporate nonsense lol

[@Clay3613]

It's a very old trope.

[@Lynn17]

Ohh boy, Flipper’s up next. That’ll be a sad one.

[@stvojay]

Started the video and so far it’s pretty great! I have no memory of Camp Runamuk and looking at the content, besides the bears, looks pretty dull & I’m sure I wouldn’t have liked as a kid. I guess the Bears and some showcase of kids characters may have made this a fit for Nickelodeon (like in late 70s/early 80s) in late 80s & beyond… not so much. What a pleasant twist that we get a “Ha! the Comedy Network” retrospective included in this video! I vaguely remember Ha! & the Comedy Channel, but mostly started watching when it became Comedy Central. Have to go back to work now but looking forward to finishing the rest

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Now you can understand why we Gen X'ers feel wasted. We were stuck watching OUR parents' entertainment.

[@stvojay]

@@ChristopherSobieniak yeah, every once in awhile I’d enjoy the Nick at Nite shows/Nickelodeon crossover shows. Mr Ed, the Munsters, Lassie, Adam West Batman, to name a few, I usually dreaded when Nick at Nite came on or anything pre-1980 was on (I was Born in 1983). I don’t remember Camp Runamuk, I think I’d Lean towards disliking it, the next Nick Nacks episode Flipper I was borderline on lol. When I show my nephews/nieces shows/movies from my time or even a little after, a good 95% of the time they don’t want to watch lol. Some exceptions like Full House but otherwise rather hop on KZbin or TikTok

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

@@stvojay At least you understand how I feel (and I was born in '77).

[@MissAshley42]

I somehow missed this show, too, but I probably wouldn't have watched it anyway. I tended to recoil from old TV shows as a kid. Looking at it now, though, it looks like an alright enough vaudeville-like, screwball romp ("past is a mistake" aside). Still, what was up with all the camp stuff in the early 80s and 90s? Sure, this was a 60s show, but its revival lines up with seemed like some sudden nature fetish in retrospect.

[@mightyfilm]

If there's one commenter here that totally watched old sitcoms as a little kid, it's me. Of course I can't remember exactly which ones, I was really little, and they were a lot more contemporary than some lost 60's thing. I do remember watching The Jeffersons a lot back then. This will date me, but local syndication still ran older sitcoms in the middle of the day instead of the bad talk shows and court shows that polluted the airwaves by the 90's. Anyway, kid appeal because it's a summer camp aside, did they get the rights to this as some sort of package deal? Seems if they really wanted kid friendly sitcoms, Munsters and Addams Family are right there. Perhaps someone had the rights? Get Smart could have been a good follow up for Inspector Gadget reruns. This show seems so damn 1960's Mad Magazine style humor. They ripped off Chauncey and Edgar from Bullwinkle for those ugly, Peppermint Park-esque bears. Seriously. We want a sophisticated adult show. Enjoy these pre-Muppet Show style puppet bears doing "Wife BAD!" jokes. Though spray essence of bacon DOES sound like a worthy idea. Good for those cutting down on cholesterol, I guess. We totally should have something like that.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

You don't have to remind me, I lived it! My dad was always glued to these every afternoon when they were on besides what meager cartoons were playing.

[@mightyfilm]

@@ChristopherSobieniak I remember back then cartoons were early in the morning and then later on in the afternoon. I was seriously young because I wasn't at school then. And if I was, it was half day. You put a hand me down TV in a kid's room when they're under 4, that kid's going to keep that TV on for background noise. I'm just fortunate the Trash Daytime TV boom happened the second I had to go to all day school. Even then, I remember being pissed that Kindergarten was all day and I had to miss Woody Woodpecker reruns.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

@@mightyfilm For me, the pre-1990's TV landscape was you had cartoons show up in the mornings (6-9AM) and afternoons (2:30-6PM) on indie stations (some network affiliates did it as well) and the usual Saturday mornings on the "Big Three" networks. That was all.

[@DigiRangerScott]

26:38 OH HI MR GORE

[@MikeLovesRabbit]

what, not a fan of millionaires telling "jokes" about how canceled they are?

[@christopherb501]

Unless one has a persecution complex, who is?

[@janedoe3043]

Why did Jeanie make that man faint when he had to deliver a baby? /S

[@RazorFoxDV]

Jeez, does every other line of dialogue in this show require a spritz of canned laughter?

[@ininja32]

I don't think I ever saw this

[@DigiRangerScott]

Nick Knacks? More like Ha! Haws

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

A nick knacks type show on comedy central would actually be a good idea.

[@hollowman7168]

So the creator of camp lazlo was a fan I see

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

I'm sure Joe was a 60's kid.

[@i010001]

This show seems remarkably... Disposable. I will say that like, it seems like this episode about a kid wanting to do boy activities, everyone going into a panic over it, and ultimately concluding with "Eh, she's gonna do it anyways, so lets just ignore it" is... Maybe not reading as much of a non-conclusion to me as is asserted here. Perhaps if this is a show about adults at a summer camp and made more for an audience of 1960s adults, it would make more sense for an episode on this to be joking about how adults get caught up in their own norms, rather than it necessarily being about this one-off child character's stance on gender issues one way or the other.

[@justinstewart8954]

In 1963 a lesbian song charted Billoard's Hot 100 and made it to number 2--the same spot Hello Muddah Hello Faddah got to--If you want to know what I'm talking about: please look up Sally Go Roubd the Roses by The Jaynettes and listen to the mono version.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

I like the 45 that had the "Sing Without the Jaynettes" version. Surprised people weren't sampling that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hl6rpGWDbbOHaK8

[@NoraQRosa]

there's not really any supporting evidence toward that being the intended interpretation of the song, and, speaking as a lesbian myself, I don't see it

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

@@NoraQRosa Me neither. I would assume "Saddest thing in the whole wide world is to see your baby with another girl" meant a guy dating someone else and not the girl the song is about. Stuff like that was normal.

[@justinstewart8954]

You might be right about it not being the intended interpretation of the song. But no one alive really knows and I always imagined the person who wrote that song intentionally left it ambiguous. And I thought, 'The saddest thing in the whole wide world is seeing your baby with another girl" line was about a woman finding out her wife was cheating on her by running into the two of them at a public place. Since that line followed "Don't go downtown." Because downtown is where most of the gay people were, especially in 1963. The way I understand it, that song did become very popular at gay rallies. And along the way it was definitely used in a bizarre 1970s lesbian movie called Sugar Cookies. But my real point is that-despite what Pop Arena mentions in their video-good music in the top 100 of Billboard's chart didn't start with The Beatles in 1964 and that most people would be surprised what was on there in 1963 and before. But I doubt Pop Arena even meant that line to be taken seriously. I kinda wish I had kept my mouth shut.

[@justinstewart8954]

That song does have a Wikipedia page and it's worth reading.

[@MsGigglesluv]

So the whole reason we have Comedy Central is because Viacom was pissed HBO was making money when they just cracked the code?

[@JamesLewis2]

The Democrats held the majority in the US House of Representatives from 1955 through 1994; they lost the majority in the US Senate in 1981 (having also held it since 1955) and got it back in 1987 before losing it again in 1995. Thus, during Bush the Elder's entire administration, the Democrats had the majority in both houses of Congress, and the only major change in the US federal government in 1989 was the new President. (Yes, general elections are held in even-numbered years, but the new Congress starts the following year on January 3, and it doesn't even meet on the 1st or 2nd, so each Congress starts in an odd-numbered year and ends in an even-numbered year; this is different from Presidential administrations, which, barring resignation or death in office, end 19 and a half days into the year, when the next one starts. There are unusual cases, like when US Senator James Jeffords of Vermont left the GOP and caucused with the Democrats in early 2001, leading to party control switching within the year, but generally party control changes only when the year does.) Also, "Louisville" is pronounced like "LOO-ee-Vill" (or by people from the area, like "LOO-uh-Vill"). --- Also, as a side note, if you hear that someone's last name sounds like "LOO-iss", the automatic first thought should be "Lewis"; I have no idea why the people at the CVS Pharmacy counter ask me to spell that name, because there is no other *surname* that is common and has that pronunciation and a different spelling: "Louis" is almost always a first name and is pronounced the same way as "Louie" (which is in fact an Anglicization of "Louis"). Literally the only person I've heard of who ever goes by a set of names ending in "Louis" is Prince George of the UK, whose full name is George Philip Arthur Louis (royals in the UK don't have surnames, but sometimes they use something like "Windsor" or "Mountbatten-Windsor" or something related to their titles, as when Prince William served in the military as "William Wales").

[@theotakux5959]

Downvoting for claiming the beatles are 'good'

[@Furore2323]

Okay so I'm blubbing in the first ten seconds.

[@Furore2323]

And I'm always here for the tea.