Campervan VS Caravan | Fifth Gear

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5 жыл бұрын

Jason & Jonny put the Mercedes-Benz Marco Polo and ANTARèS 485 up against each other to see which delivers the premium camping experience. This clip is taken from Series 27 of Fifth Gear, first broadcast on 27th September 2018.
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@seljd
@seljd 5 жыл бұрын
if you're constantly on the move, get the van, if you stay on one place for longer, than get the trailer
@hArDsTyLe2259
@hArDsTyLe2259 5 жыл бұрын
Took the words out of my mouth!
@clownworld-honk410
@clownworld-honk410 5 жыл бұрын
Or buy a 7 metre motorhome for more space, toilet, shower. The VW campers are way over priced imo.
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
And ruin everyone's summer by clogging up Britain's narrow country roads with them and never pulling over (caveat: it did actually happen once - in over 20 years of driving).
@teundevries8134
@teundevries8134 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@teundevries8134
@teundevries8134 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jimappleby9227
@jimappleby9227 5 жыл бұрын
6m renault master should do it. No need to be extravagant.
@earthstick
@earthstick 5 жыл бұрын
Overpriced, overrated, inferior quality
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 5 жыл бұрын
What a shoddy thumbnail.😐
@willamos13
@willamos13 5 жыл бұрын
Used to go to Spain when we had a caravan back in ‘03/04. Take us 2 days, park up, unpack, awning up, things out the car and away, off on a day trip somewhere! Loved it!
@Cars_and_adventures
@Cars_and_adventures 5 жыл бұрын
The plane was an RAF Tucano Jonny. Stage 2 in RAF fighter school training
@user-fs8lz9re2q
@user-fs8lz9re2q 5 жыл бұрын
Show off, nah joking I love knowledge
@jordanimatedstreaming
@jordanimatedstreaming 5 жыл бұрын
seeing Plato and Jonny old makes me feel old :X
@interceptor-ss8kb
@interceptor-ss8kb 5 жыл бұрын
I will hold my hand up I've owned a Vw camper van and it was hopeless for a holiday it was so cramped, I didn't even keep it a year and flogged it.
@joemacleod-iredale2888
@joemacleod-iredale2888 5 жыл бұрын
XC90 and a tent, every time.
@deltagames3864
@deltagames3864 4 жыл бұрын
XC90 is big enough to sleep in
@maddog7139
@maddog7139 5 жыл бұрын
Remove the towing mirrors when not towing
@edenbreckhouse
@edenbreckhouse 5 жыл бұрын
65k for that size of camper is bonkers money.
@mtbmac2692
@mtbmac2692 5 жыл бұрын
I live in mountain bike country. It's crazy what poseurs will pay for a glorified van....
@chrise8442
@chrise8442 5 жыл бұрын
Because those who make them understand the buyer. All inheritance or money from inflated stocks thanks to PRINTED PAPER. I agree with you. Over priced wank
@BK-it6wg
@BK-it6wg 5 жыл бұрын
Out of the two id definetly choose an apartment
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 5 жыл бұрын
Or buy a normal car for half the price which will be better at everything day to day then book a caravan/hotel/cottage/etc when you want a holiday. Drive there in comfort and have more space then either. £30k difference to a normal nice car pays for a lot of holidays.
@binyamina8850
@binyamina8850 5 жыл бұрын
Those things are fun but pain to maintain
@aaronmills3105
@aaronmills3105 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Volvo XC60, beautiful 😍👌
@fatpigeon1066
@fatpigeon1066 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 😍
@grinpanic132
@grinpanic132 5 жыл бұрын
Save money, don't buy the caravan and the Volvo, just buy a proper motorhome.
@Vger77
@Vger77 5 жыл бұрын
Just found out now! S27 was broadcasted So glad you guys are back with FG
@Marpurrsa
@Marpurrsa 5 жыл бұрын
each of these have their own usecases caravan is for the traveler who goes to one camping in a certain place, sets the caravan down and goes to places from that camping and comes back in the evening the campervan is for people who hop from camping to camping, exploring a wider place
@Marpurrsa
@Marpurrsa 5 жыл бұрын
@MrAbletospeak yeah duh you can do both with either i didn't say that you couldn't Just they are both more suited to a specific task You can technically slice something with a spoon but it's not its main purpose
@ScottZ370
@ScottZ370 5 жыл бұрын
What you need is the Mercedes to pull the caravan and maybe a tent to join them 😂
@jonathonedwards6741
@jonathonedwards6741 5 жыл бұрын
See Clarkson a caravan holiday without a fire.
@hugos2475
@hugos2475 5 жыл бұрын
And without the "UOH AAAAAAAAAAAH"
@AqueleDoHonda
@AqueleDoHonda 5 жыл бұрын
I love to see new bits of the new Fifth gear !
@dannieboyize
@dannieboyize 5 жыл бұрын
finally some good content! love this.
@charliechetwood2358
@charliechetwood2358 5 жыл бұрын
Is there anywhere I can watch full episodes of this new series?
@kellingtonlink956
@kellingtonlink956 5 жыл бұрын
A brilliant idea for a video. Thanks.
@martian9999
@martian9999 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a used Transit Westfalia a few years ago. What you need to know is that the commercial van underpinnings are not made to be used for long -- they're for a quick 200k miles in 4-6 years. After a while, everything starts going wrong in these things. Also, you can't enter many European cities in a campervan because they have parking restrictions. On the other hand, in many European countries you are speed restricted to 80-100 kmh when you tow something. That is seriously slow, especially when you see Campervans overtaking you at 130, 140 or 160. It's great to be able to pull up into many camping sites without advance reservations, even in high season. But when you realistically compare the total costs, using AirBnB and going to restaurants is always going to win, unless you have 6 kids and therefore plan for family holidays for 25 or so years.
@tobysemler
@tobysemler 5 жыл бұрын
Potato looks about as old as in Series 1. Jonny not so much! Great piece!
@leenevin8451
@leenevin8451 5 жыл бұрын
toby semler does he fuck
@zatdude
@zatdude 5 жыл бұрын
holy shit yeah hes gone gray ffs!
@grim-upnorth
@grim-upnorth 5 жыл бұрын
Thing is... the camper van isn't supposed to be a competitor to the caravan, it's supposed to be an alternative to camping. In that respect, the camper van experience is closer to that of camping, but inside a van (clue is in the name). The true "competition" for the caravan is the motor home. Do a motorhome vs caravan for a closer match.
@69bock69
@69bock69 5 жыл бұрын
yea camping tent etc v's 30-40k camper van.....
@richardchung7198
@richardchung7198 5 жыл бұрын
This is what I will do, buy the VW and go camping with a mate with a caravan. 😁
@charlietownend4721
@charlietownend4721 5 жыл бұрын
*Thing is, if you regularly used a caravan, you would have an actual idea which is better. Caravans don’t sit as much as you think and it’s not hard to tow them either.*
@LoggyWD
@LoggyWD 5 жыл бұрын
What happened to Jonny's hair
@bigjohn606
@bigjohn606 5 жыл бұрын
In the UK you can't just pull up at the side of the road or a field with a caravan since 1968, you have to stay at a campsite. These have all the facilities you need so forget about a shower/toilet/sink as these are simply not needed; just think of it as a really comfortable tent. A camper van does give you more freedom, but you've got to factor in the running/maintenance costs. Before parting with the cash, with both options you should realistically estimate how often you think you are going to use them, because 40 grand can buy you quite a few nice foreign holidays or, like me, a farmhouse in Normandy.
@jockd7
@jockd7 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you can ...in Scotland...just dont leave your rubbish behind...
@bigjohn606
@bigjohn606 5 жыл бұрын
@@jockd7 Ok, I stand corrected... but Scotland... really?
@jockd7
@jockd7 5 жыл бұрын
@@bigjohn606 I dont like the tin cans(caravans) but the highlands of Scotland is choc a bloc with tin cans....IT DOESN'T RAIN IN SCOTLAND ALL THE TIME...
@user-tv8sm6so9y
@user-tv8sm6so9y 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video, answers a lot of question's. I think Jason would have been better off with a proper Campervan/RV for the same sort of money than that merc which is basically nothing more than a pimped up work van, With a proper Campervan he would of had the same level of comfort as Johnny had but the down side is he would of had a much bigger vehicle to deal with, Well done Guys Great Video.
@nigelturner3251
@nigelturner3251 5 жыл бұрын
Not a fair comparison. My Hymer A Class Motorhome has all the space of the caravan and the luxury of the Marco Polo for similar money, plus I can tow a Toyota Aygo on an A Frame on the back if we are exploring the surrounding area where the roads are narrow or parking is restricted.
@marymadalenem2351
@marymadalenem2351 3 жыл бұрын
Good job
@gazza141
@gazza141 2 жыл бұрын
Where are they? What’s the village called?
@Builditfixituseit
@Builditfixituseit 5 жыл бұрын
Scrap all that and buy a sprinter or crafter and build it yourself...then everything will be just as you want it.....I'm currently sat in my van in Italy and always get the best spot as I'm there 1st🤙
@fatpigeon1066
@fatpigeon1066 5 жыл бұрын
"A fresh poo" 😂😂😂
@jameswarden9136
@jameswarden9136 5 жыл бұрын
I love Volvo :D
@russcattell955i
@russcattell955i 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say if you are going to change locations every day or 3 the campervan is the winner, however for longer stay's the caravan is more comfy & the ability to act as a base for day trips in the car. Mr Plato is wrong about the karsey. Who wants someone having a stinky dump next you eating dinner ? Not me, a shower cubicle makes more sense. We have a 8.5m cabin cruiser boat, a pee only policy in the heads & hot n cold pumped shower.
@keirangeorge9046
@keirangeorge9046 5 жыл бұрын
What channel is this even on anymore?
@SocksWithSandals
@SocksWithSandals 5 жыл бұрын
When I have Angel Delight it has to be butterscotch. Take a couple of gulps from a pint of milk, pour in the powder then shake it for three minutes. Pour. Fridge 15 minutes. Oh yes.
@Nile9063
@Nile9063 5 жыл бұрын
Actually travelling with a motor home is kind of the best experience I think... At least if you have the money... I've just had a vacation in a rented one and the driving experience is ok and you've got everything you need with you including a bathroom... You don't have to worry about towing but you're not living in a cramped place either...
@rickhurst9058
@rickhurst9058 5 жыл бұрын
As everyone is saying, totally bizarre comparison - should be Motorhome (with toilet and shower) vs that caravan. Campervan vs a little 2 berth Eriba caravan maybe? To those saying get a Hotel instead - if you don't get the appeal of camping (in relative comfort and wind-proofness compared to a tent) next to a beach or forest, or at a festival, then stick to Hotels, that's fine! There's places you just can't take a caravan that you can a campervan or motorhome, and there's place you can take a campervan that you can't a motorhome, so depends what you want out of it.
@JaseWolf
@JaseWolf 5 жыл бұрын
Or do a custom conversion that fits for you, that caravan luxury could easily be replicated in a van with a fully customised conversion making full use of the space fir for what you need it for. No need to use proper camp grounds and stuff either. Park up somewhere safe, as long as there's no overnight parking restrictions.. you can't really do that with a monster of a caravan, especially with the types of roads you likely will go down to find these places.
@BuzzaB77
@BuzzaB77 5 жыл бұрын
why don't just upload full episodes, it's not like the youtube audience have tvs, that's why we're on youtube! you think we're gonna go out and buy a tv???
@originalpadoru
@originalpadoru 5 жыл бұрын
BuzzaB77 TV Rights I think and don’t complain
@jtr990
@jtr990 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder what happens if Jason and Jonny take a hand on frying up chips in those two campers...
@johnrooke5885
@johnrooke5885 5 жыл бұрын
If you motorhome had been of the same size motor would of won hands down
@joshuaparr3279
@joshuaparr3279 5 жыл бұрын
Personally think the camper is a better option albeit not one that's £65k 😅
@panz3r696
@panz3r696 5 жыл бұрын
Just buy a motorhome instead of either 🤪
@stevegee6529
@stevegee6529 5 жыл бұрын
Should of compared the caravan to a motorhome
@rogersimmons2596
@rogersimmons2596 5 жыл бұрын
To be grammatically correct, this should read 'Should have...'
@jasonjuggler3457
@jasonjuggler3457 5 жыл бұрын
@@rogersimmons2596 please explain
@stevegee6529
@stevegee6529 5 жыл бұрын
@@rogersimmons2596 you're not wrong. My mistake
@jockd7
@jockd7 5 жыл бұрын
Surely breaking the law talking to each other on the 'phones'....
@OutboundSolutions
@OutboundSolutions 5 жыл бұрын
What about motor homes
@JorgeGarcia-xe4mx
@JorgeGarcia-xe4mx 4 жыл бұрын
the most disturbing thing is those gray scrambled eggs form Jonny and the overcooked fried egg from Jason. You should've brought Ramsay along
@FrankCastle-he8fl
@FrankCastle-he8fl 5 жыл бұрын
Get a Mercedes camper van with shower/toilet
@thelegendofdf287
@thelegendofdf287 5 жыл бұрын
They chose a shit van , there's plenty out there miles better at that price bracket
@bilal00276
@bilal00276 5 жыл бұрын
I don't get staycations at all. Especially when you can go somewhere like Dubai for a week in a 5 star hotel for like 1200 quid.
@brainwells6634
@brainwells6634 5 жыл бұрын
In the United States you must tow your camper with a SUV or a Pick up Truck and our campers are huge
@jerryocrow1
@jerryocrow1 2 жыл бұрын
BIASED: The producer picked a van w/o shower, toilet, etc, and promoted a trailer. WHY?
@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548
@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 5 жыл бұрын
The disadvantages of a caravan are that you need somewhere to keep it, and that it is pricey to take across the channel. A camper can be parked in the street.
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 5 жыл бұрын
gEpWxAqd FsiDseSG I pay £350 per year to store my Caravan & it costs me an extra £200 to take it to France and back.
@NaenaeGaming
@NaenaeGaming 5 жыл бұрын
What about camper van+caravan!
@rogersimmons2596
@rogersimmons2596 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with a caravan or motorhome is you are pretty much duty bound and restricted to staying on a camp site.
@jasonjuggler3457
@jasonjuggler3457 5 жыл бұрын
really?
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 5 жыл бұрын
Roger Simmons why are you restricted to the campsite with a caravan?
@michelegirgenti9470
@michelegirgenti9470 5 жыл бұрын
I work all around the country in my 6 metre long motorhome so I don't get what ya mean. I wild camp everywhere and anywhere.
@earthstick
@earthstick 5 жыл бұрын
The craziest thing I ever saw on the road was instead of a car towing a caravan along the motorway, there was an RV towing a smart car.
@Jungleland33
@Jungleland33 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen that a few times too. Although the best I ever saw was a picture of an American rv towing a small helicopter. Beat that! 😆
@Andythenurse
@Andythenurse 5 жыл бұрын
I'd have compared a motorhome with a caravan. A campervan compares more to camping with a tent than a caravan.
@Chevytravelleruk
@Chevytravelleruk 5 жыл бұрын
Useful consumer advice for people with more money than sense
@guusbouwmans5667
@guusbouwmans5667 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like the in charge of making thumbnail forgot to pay his monthly subscription to Photoshop CC and resorted to using paint instead.
@Daz555Daz
@Daz555Daz 4 жыл бұрын
Campervans are superb day-trippers as well as being handy for camping. Caravans are not, so you only get to day trip in your car. A day at the beach surfing with a car or a campervan? No contest.
@lukejones1244
@lukejones1244 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, is it ok to travel to Europe using a caravan as a trailer, full of personal belongings?
@darrenelbrow5144
@darrenelbrow5144 5 жыл бұрын
They should’ve taken the towing mirrors off before going to the shops
@banpowel9784
@banpowel9784 4 жыл бұрын
If you live in a city, no driveway and no garage, then it's the motorhome hands down, also if you are on the move a lot, motorhome. You can buy a motorhome with a wc and shower
@stuartcampbell4414
@stuartcampbell4414 5 жыл бұрын
£66,000.....really
@presstodelete1165
@presstodelete1165 5 жыл бұрын
Add a tent to the campervan and you have a better match.
@James-oo1yq
@James-oo1yq 5 жыл бұрын
£66,000! Wowsers
@evilmario6061
@evilmario6061 5 жыл бұрын
You'll never recoup the cost with either option, just rent a villa with some mates or extended family and get a pool
@miketipping1583
@miketipping1583 5 жыл бұрын
Why do motoring shows use hand-held walkie talkies all the time. Surely using one whilst driving is a bad ides, if not illegal.
@eliotmansfield
@eliotmansfield 3 жыл бұрын
buy neither - shitting in a bucket? - no thanks.
@royblauwhoff6420
@royblauwhoff6420 5 жыл бұрын
Just get a full size campervan
@screaminglc9833
@screaminglc9833 5 жыл бұрын
Is this top gear or what?
@69bock69
@69bock69 5 жыл бұрын
best of the lot have a normal holiday or book your self in to a hotel and drive there in a car.
@frazerguest2864
@frazerguest2864 5 жыл бұрын
5th Gear was so much better than Top Gear.
@SpikeMoby
@SpikeMoby 5 жыл бұрын
One is a motoring show the other was a show with idiots larking about in motors. Kinda apples and oranges comparison.
@danburyvan5845
@danburyvan5845 5 жыл бұрын
Should have compared it to a long wheelbase campervan you can stand up in them you have a shower and toilet and it would’ve smashed the caravan out the park
@lorcro2000
@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын
The best choice is a camper van / but a larger one than the Marco Polo. Something built on a full-size high top van that has an actual bathroom and most of the amenities in the caravan.
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 5 жыл бұрын
Croft no camper/motorhome or caravan has a bathroom.
@lorcro2000
@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@scotiajinker8392 Huh? I can point out multiple that do. Or are you going on some technicality "there is no bathtub so it's not a bathroom" silliness?
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 5 жыл бұрын
Croft like the way you edited your original post , what’s silly about calling a room by its proper name? It’s a toilet or a shower room. You don’t climb in a window and call it a door do you?
@lorcro2000
@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@scotiajinker8392 Yeah I have a bad habit of forgetting to write all that I meant to write so I have to go back and edit. I need to work on that. Also, literally everybody calls a bathroom with a shower a bathroom. You can call it whatever you want of course.
@markheywood8236
@markheywood8236 5 жыл бұрын
'Why are they using a small van?' Cos in the UK the larger campervans/motorhomes cost £75k min, high end finish its nearer £95-120k. My car - AWD wagon with 190bhp and near 300Nm and loads of toys £32k. Medium sized medium spec caravan £23k. So for £55k you get an excellent car - a true everyday multipurpose vehicle - AND a camping home. No brainer. Campervans are for posers who'd rather be uncomfortable than sensible. Big motorhomes are for millionaires.
@richardgreenwood3355
@richardgreenwood3355 5 жыл бұрын
I've owned both and I always say that the advantage of a motorcaravan is that you have everything with you all the time. The disadvantage of a motorcaravan is that you have everything with you .... ALL the time! You pays your money, you takes your choice. For me the touring caravan won the battle; after all, what would I prefer to be driving on a sunny day when I'm away on holiday - a van or my convertible?!
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 5 жыл бұрын
Or just rent an airbnb and a fiesta.
@c11yan
@c11yan 5 жыл бұрын
Producers obviously know nothing about motor homing or camping at that budget look at Itineo A Class or entry level A Class Motorhomes - far better than caravan or mini vans.
@TheAshlovesu
@TheAshlovesu 5 жыл бұрын
Bald Jonny
@benpassman5630
@benpassman5630 5 жыл бұрын
We have a 2013 BMW X5 and a 8.99m long twin axle caravan which is akot harder then a single axle one however carvans are a lot better than camper and
@You_are_not_normal
@You_are_not_normal 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Passman Cars nobody cares
@benpassman5630
@benpassman5630 5 жыл бұрын
red rum good for you 👍
@stug45
@stug45 5 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't get the same decision on top gear. Bravo :-)
@redline589
@redline589 4 жыл бұрын
Id rather have a sportscar and stay in a hotel.
@paolopadilla4418
@paolopadilla4418 5 жыл бұрын
There is a hotel called marco polo in the Philippines
@yvs6663
@yvs6663 3 жыл бұрын
I will have u know i am extremely cheap and will simply buy a Twingo, fold the rear seat and the front passenger seat, inflate a mattress and sleep on it.
@northdevonwildlifewithandy788
@northdevonwildlifewithandy788 5 жыл бұрын
£60,000! Ffs not camping is it.
@isfire8141
@isfire8141 5 жыл бұрын
Id rather have a sports car and stay in nice hotels.
@jasonjuggler3457
@jasonjuggler3457 5 жыл бұрын
same here
@blazbohinc4964
@blazbohinc4964 5 жыл бұрын
cars are for driving, not for camping.
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been caravaning for 20yrs, I don’t get motorhomes. For the area/space in my £24k caravan you would have to spent about £75k on a motorhome. I keep my van for 8yrs and get a 1/3 of my money back in trade in. As you found out after one night , if you want to go out for-the day you have to pack everything up in a motorhome, to combat that I’ve seen motorhomes towing a small car. What’s the point of that ? Restricted to towing regulations without the room of a caravan.
@michelegirgenti9470
@michelegirgenti9470 5 жыл бұрын
If your staying on a site for a week or 2 I'd agree but I work 5 days a week from my motorhome and now I'm on my 4th one, tried a caravan but was no way near as comfy and was a pain in the arse to tow and get about. Where as I just stick the keys in and drive. I wild camp 90% of the time and it doesn't cost me a carrot another thing you can't do in a caravan. Them VW camper vans are awful no space, extremely pokey and you can't shower or use the toilet. Motorhome all day long, well 5 days a week anyhow
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 5 жыл бұрын
Michele Girgenti seriously how many people work from a motorhome or caravan? Don’t say 100p’s because that’s not true unless you’re a gypo. So you have a big long seat that you can sprol out on and watch a biggish tv? Wild camp ? I think the 2 presenters are talking about normal people who go to Campsite’s. So you don’t bother packing everything away before you move off , just let roll about the floor? Sure you do. No hassle in towing , I have 7m van not including the hitch and I’ve been all over the uk and Europe no problem.
@michelegirgenti9470
@michelegirgenti9470 5 жыл бұрын
I've been around Europe many times in my motorhome, the same one I work from and it beats a Scruffy tin pot caravan, pikeys don't drive motorhomes they tow caravans. Takes about 30 seconds maybe less to get ready to drive I should know I do it nearly everyday. Can't beat wild camping shame you can't try it. You ever pissed in the fast lane?? Thought not 🤣🤣
@michelegirgenti9470
@michelegirgenti9470 5 жыл бұрын
I have a bigger TV than you and have 6 beds probably more than your caravan.
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 5 жыл бұрын
Michele Girgenti scruffy tin pot caravan? My van is brand new, with 4 beds. 30secs to put stuff away ? Obviously you don’t put stuff out then. A big tv ? You’re either lying about wild camping or the tv. You can’t get bigger than a 21” tv that runs off 12v. You’re right I don’t wild camp as I don’t want to sleep in a lay by which is illegal in Scotland anyway.
@lukalukic1
@lukalukic1 5 жыл бұрын
jut look at that sexy Volvo
@cappuccinokid6772
@cappuccinokid6772 Жыл бұрын
With respect……..the caravan isn’t one of the best. More comfortable than a camper though and with somewhere to have a s#^t, shower and shave 👍
@louisgreenleaf235
@louisgreenleaf235 5 жыл бұрын
Go abroad
@notsamsamsucks3586
@notsamsamsucks3586 5 жыл бұрын
Just get a bigger van or even a lorry
@jasonmorris4eva
@jasonmorris4eva 5 жыл бұрын
A motel room is way much cheaper...just saying 🤨
@santclause1
@santclause1 5 жыл бұрын
Fiat ducato based campervan would have been better plato ya plonker.
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