Can 10 Lurkers take 1000 SCVs? | Daily SC2 Brawl

[@Tya.]

I ran this once before with probes, let's see how SCVs do

[@Cyberium]

Behold Terran technology. XD

[@Watar4281]

Now do with drones

[@Ryder.Draconis]

I would love to see 10 Dehaka vs unlimited marines.

[@Nin10do0014]

We should try this again but no upgrades. That could give the workers a chance to take down at least 1 Lurker

[@EvilFrosty2U]

The marauder being all nice and sweet talking at the end, and then the stalker calls you ugly lmao

[@Broockle]

🤣

[@Cyberium]

Would be interesting to see same unit composion of two+ unit types... but arrange them so they march in different order.

[@hentacletentai2160]

what about same units but one side has armor upgrade and one side has weapon upgrade

[@HISKILP]

@@anonymeoui3248 depends on base dmg... with marines/low dmg units you would be right, but with Wrathwalker its a huge dmg boost.. marines get +1 dmg and wrathwalker like 10+ .. and armor is flat +1 so its 0 for marines and 9 for wrathwalker

[@HISKILP]

@@anonymeoui3248 I know but now use units with higher base dmg than your calculation wont work anymore

[@DrownedInExile]

I did not expect those Carriers to win!

[@berndarndt9924]

It's because the interceptors weren't attacked. If they would have been, the carriers would have lost a lot more dps early.

[@katsu9738]

@@berndarndt9924 It's the new patch taking into effect

[@SeventhSolar]

@@katsu9738 No, that’s how this custom game mode has always worked. But at least it’s more accurate to the real game now.

[@Broockle]

@@berndarndt9924 was thinking the same. In most circumstances the new threat target ai would be beneficial, but here it seemed to benefit the carriers lol

[@Broockle]

@@SeventhSolar *surprised pikachu* really? 🤔

[@jimmyha1898]

I think the Lurker vs SCV fight was one of the only few fights where one side didn't have any losses (except Dehaka fights) in recent memory! Also, I am pretty sure that the Interceptor attack priority change is a buff against Marines. When the Marines target the main ship, they usually lose hard vs Carriers. They aren't tanky enough like Corruptors or BCs so they have to win by baiting out Interceptors and fighting those.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

Should be noted, in this mode, interceptors are untargetable anyway. Otherwise it woukd also be a buff against libs, because liberator splash obliterates interceptors, not so much no mega clumped carriers.

[@momom6197]

@@Santisima_Trinidad More that untargetable, invulnerable. Otherwise some would still die to the liberators.

[@Eltrotraw]

@@momom6197 wish I knew that before going into this video today lol

[@pacerrecap6386]

Recent memory: mengsk cruiser 25:0 niva goliath __5 day ago__

[@czcastell]

I legit got sad when the last ultra got killed :'c

[@MattMarshallUK]

Except for the SCV one, all those results were totally the opposite of what I expected

[@jeremy1860]

Wow, those Archons didn't last long 🤔

[@DamienDarkside]

I call them "Angy Balloons" for a reason. They pop really easily with some units. I didn't expect carriers to carry.

[@Broockle]

@@DamienDarkside with that many marines in the game the Archon's splash somehow really doesn't scale that well. But in actual 1v1 Archons are tanky AF.

[@bigsmall246]

@@DamienDarksidethe liberators and marines were shooting the carriers when they should have been shooting the interceptors. Liberators shred interceptors.

[@FilmaticProductions]

I was very surprised at how quickly they got rekt. Mass Archon is usually very tanky.

[@Ixion-1337]

Marauder joined the fight little too late..

[@Poo_Brain_Horse]

SCVs somehow did even worse than I thought. Funny thing is in canon they're like 15 foot tall power armor. Guess Lurker spikes are sharp. I voted against Hellbat as per usual but thought I was wrong when the Zealots evaporated. Incredibly even in the face of losing 200 of their initial force the Roaches managed to win, and it wasn't even by very slim margins.

[@DamienDarkside]

For me, I like to think they are filled with servos and cheaper mechanical parts than "Military Armor". So they only have an inch or two of steel, and the insides are more for the function of drilling, and having the supported strength to carry massive amounts of crystals and gas canisters. Whereas the Marine Combat Armor is higher quality, thicker metals (probably they got tungsten or something going on) and hardened like our steel plates. I doubt a Marine can carry the same amount as an SCV funny enough. I like thinking too much about this at break at work.

[@scottevensen2615]

Wow these were close! Wasn't expecting the 2nd fight outcome.

[@trassage]

Veeery interesting and thought out battles. I enjoyed that very much)

[@jonahglass-hussain4568]

I'd be interested in seeing a comparison of the liberator carrier fight- One where the libs target the carriers like here, and one where their AI is changed so they target the interceptors first with the AOE.

[@artemis_fowl44hd92]

Honestly, that probably would have been a huge win for the libs and marines, as they were always better gunning down the weak (and stacked) interceptors first, thus not really receiving any losses.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

Unfortunately, no. In this mode interceptors are simply untargetable.

[@artemis_fowl44hd92]

@@Santisima_Trinidad He could change the target priority back to 20 and then ensure that his ai doesn't auto attack the interceptors.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

@@artemis_fowl44hd92 what? That isn't how target priority works? If its at 20, then the AI will attack the interceptors if they are the closest unit to them, no 2 ways about it. Unless its a unit which can't shoot up. Only way to make the unit's not attack the interceptors when something else is in range is the new patch, which reduces the target priority down to 19, 1 below every other unit in the game (unless it's a unit which can't shoot up against a flying one, in which case the target priority is always treated as lower than one which can shoot up), or, as is already the case, the interceptors are made untargetable. If the interceptors are targetable then protos loses super hard. The backline Mariens which currently can't shoot for quite a while would eviscerate the interceptors almost immediately, and then the carrier won't be able to do any significant damage for the rest of the fight, and thats assuming the Mariens don't shoot down the newly spawing interceptors.

[@artemis_fowl44hd92]

@@Santisima_Trinidad Ok, I didn't phrase it perfectly. Also, accidentically wrote doesn't, instead of does. What I meant is that they increase the target priority of the interceptors, so that they get targeted first.

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

Liberators and marines would have won easily if they targeted interceptors.

[@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman]

I knew the SCVs had no chance at all, but I wanted to believe!

[@Eltrotraw]

2/4 today My predictions: - Lurkers (easy choice. I'm actually more surprised none of the lurkers died than anything) - Ultrabats (expected the zealots to drop quickly. The ultras would've done a large chunk of the heavy lifting and the bats just needed to clean up) - Marines (I didn't trust ai carrier micro or lack thereof) - Stalkers (I was very tempted to vote for the other side for a second then I remember it's stalkers)

[@MrMezumay]

Yeah I was surprised none died but thing about scvs is they get no upgrades to attack so vs 3 armor they were doing like 1 damage.

[@escapest]

You: upload. Me who knows nothing about sc2: i must know. Also me: wtf brain, why???

[@DEZEKER08]

Darn carriers kept me from perfect 4-0. Was not expecting that.

[@simonl1135]

Yes, go face first into a Liberation Zone and walk towards the Liberator in a straight line, so you can stand next to it and attack it, what could go wrong?😍Rather hard to take these seriously.

[@zwestlich6587]

The start: wet dream of every zerg player

[@BorgCollectiveAQ]

What about zeratul probes vs lurkers?

[@aradan3913]

SCVs should have auto repair on for fights, that'd be awesome

[@JimboMcBrostein]

Another toss stomp, color me surprised

[@vpopsumov]

Imagine SCV's vs drones

[@Thescott16]

A union of High and _Dark_ Templars?! Not in my liberation zone!

[@Leo40214]

I wonder if theres a way to get liberators and marines to target the interceptors.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

In this mode, no. Interceptors are just untargetable here.

[@jatuc7586]

Could it be that rare case where it was better to shoot interceptors?

[@StriKe_jk]

Definitely

[@veidro]

Whoever doesn't always 100% of times bet against hellbats is absolutely insane.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

In this case they were at a severe resource disadvantage

[@ericjorgearnezinochea9679]

Damn, marauder is smooth

[@sebru]

How long can 3 dehaka survive unlimited marines for 3 minutes?

[@5555905]

3:20 One of the best responding ever. Just... What will happen if we put Archons against Science Vessel with EMP?

[@HISKILP]

archon have 10hp, and EMP only drain shields right?

[@5555905]

@@HISKILP Yep.

[@user-kd1tp9gf1o]

Every time I think the terran is extremely favoured to win they end up getting dunked by t2 garbage units and I think that’s beautiful

[@felsimas5637]

Man I really suck at these, constantly 1-3 or even 0-4. Only got the Lurkers right this time lol

[@megiemaster]

Can we make 10 lurkers vs 2000 scv? or 10000 scv? PagMan

[@lotuss422]

i cant beleive those roaches won

[@sebastjankrek1744]

The carriers got me. 3/4.

[@adrianseyer1726]

If Siegetanks can siege at the start, Lurkers should be burried at the start aswell!

[@Chimpy_Mc_Gibbon]

So, never attack lurkers with workers lol

[@2010Zanoza2]

2:20 - after the patch only problem. Before the latest patch, all the liberators destroyed interceptors and won.

[@gloweye]

So workers don't counter lurkers? Odd. Well, that explains why I lose to zerg so often.

[@Pedalbored]

Perfect micro blink stalkers will always win!

[@NeoPendragon]

this is my first 4/4 yay

[@aznable1000]

4/4 the Carrier/Archon one was a close call though.

[@daipivka5]

Hello. Is there a mod or the ability to show the battle from behind the shoulder of the unit or directly from the battle. Like, for example, in Total War or similar games

[@razorback9999able]

Stalkers are better than Marauders. Because the latter can't teleport.

[@Argent7771]

Save the Boys!

[@momom6197]

Those stalkers blinking into the pack of marauders must be rethinking their life choices in the brief moment before they get exploded by a dozen grenades.

[@jonsku6662]

Are you able to do void units for these? I'm kinda curious how much the odds get tilted when the normal winner is made a void unit

[@vahidmoosavian6313]

Well they take 4 times the damage, so it will be interesting for sure.

[@zergrush8709]

Ok but what about 10 lurkers vs 5000 SCVs? You can just spawn in 1000 more each time it goes down to 500 SCVs so your computer doesn’t explode.

[@Revbone450]

200 3/3 siege tanks vs Dehaka please.

[@sephirothjc]

Tanks would win that one

[@Andre_-lHl-_Carmona]

Lol try 1 Dehaka vs 100.000 SCV

[@berndarndt9924]

The hellbat & ultralisk could have won if the hellbats went first, since they deal bonus damage to light units while ultralisks just do aoe. The marine & lib would have defeated the carriers with ease if they could target the interceptors. And the marauder & zergling could have won if marauders went first, or at least got in range the same moment with the zerglings. Zerglings are also much better against stalkers sho already blinked since then they are usually in the open in this mode.

[@wicem4]

Lurker is an absurd unit

[@nativat]

scvs had 3 armor upgrade but no attack upgrades

[@pg8971]

You need to fix your interceptor targeting priority, it’s very unrealistic scenario here.

[@pg8971]

And misleading too

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

A this is direct strike, it not meant to be a super accurate representation of ladder fights, and B interceptors are just untargetable in this mode, so even with the new patch making them lower priority than carriers, it doesn't change this mode.

[@fujisan0388]

2/4

[@ДаниилПоволоцкий-и4г]

3/4

[@mahmudgasanov2090]

Без героев не интересно

[@ВіталійРоман-щ7х]

4/2

[@ilikepiedontu]

There’s no way carriers should have won against that many marines and liberators 😂

[@InfernalAlice]

This channel hates terran

[@joselupa6150]

2/4