A youtube comment with no reply’s and 4 likes? Time to claim my spot. Hi youtube! Hello future repliers!
@kaz24992 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, the overlords.
@Mistermat2HD2 жыл бұрын
Hello KZbin. Greetings from 2022.
@dragameryt72212 жыл бұрын
Yo wassup yt
@AstronomerKSP2 жыл бұрын
Oh hi youtube! 3===========D~
@AdamSmith-kq6ys2 жыл бұрын
A couple of points to note: Tesla valves aren't straight, they kink as they go along to force flow into one of the traps - you could model this by making one of the arms twice the length of the other and then alternating them; Also, Tesla valves are _one-way_ - should be perfectly feasible for the river to drain through the Tesla valve even while it stops the tsunami.
@JoSSeSSRMBlues2 жыл бұрын
thought the same :D
@England912 жыл бұрын
@@JoSSeSSRMBlues also they need to be offset from each other
@Th3BlackLotus2 жыл бұрын
Tesla valves are 2 way valves. One way allows for "free flow", when the flow is reversed, the pressure is reduced due to the design. It doesn't stop it completely, it just REALLY reduces it.
@juanc19192 жыл бұрын
i skipped through the entire vid because he did it wrong, we will wait until he does an actual tesla valve
@meadj22 жыл бұрын
I'd also be curious to know how much of the reduction in the current design is solely due to the first set of walls blocking/reflecting 2/3 of the initial wave. it's not really in the spirit of a "Tesla Valve" since it's not redirecting the water. merely blocking it like any other wall.
@SamiO-w2j2 жыл бұрын
i love how nicola tesla created this amazing thing and here we are, making toasters that can imprint an image of whatever you want on your toast
@amythistxue12 жыл бұрын
yeah selfie toasters seem more like an Edison thing than a Tesla one
@jonathan100yearsago2 жыл бұрын
Well....i love my toast with strongest shape imprinted on it...so it's a win
@Aervial2 жыл бұрын
@@amythistxue1 edison stole his inventions
@SamiO-w2j2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathan100yearsago ah ys, a fellow strongest shape supporter
@Cyberdragunz2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if it wasn't for Edison making Tesla's life a living hell, a lot more of Tesla's work would probably have come to fruition. A lot of it would have remained theoretical still I'm sure, but the man had a brilliant mind, and it's a shame much of his work was lost.
@patconner26382 жыл бұрын
Some minor pedantry: this design is a baffled suppressor, not a tesla valve. A tesla valve doesn't have any single straight line through the valve. Then again... I doubt this game's fluid sim could tell the difference. Excellent video either way
@knobgobler26392 жыл бұрын
its fluid through a canal rather than a tube anyway so the compressed fluid would mostly just make water level higher rather than a faster flow.
@danielchan16682 жыл бұрын
Maybe if we comment enough he'll redo this with a real Tesla valve.
@mohammedalnayar2 жыл бұрын
Ikr?? I only pressed on the vid to see if anyone noticed xD
@rrastetter2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@r0bz0rly2 жыл бұрын
don't care didn't ask
@Bozemanjustin11 ай бұрын
19:43 Tesla valves are offset so the water constantly fights. Why did you make yours completely symmetrical
@XXX-XX-X-X4 ай бұрын
Good in theory but it wouldn’t be a strong engineered structure, though. Needs to be shaped like a 🍆
@lukitensen4 ай бұрын
because that isn't a tesla valve, it's just cock and balls with "tesla valve" name on it
@Azurical3 күн бұрын
Some sacrifices must be made to make the strongest shape.
@OffGriDDD2 жыл бұрын
5:25 Flawless design. Absolutely flawless.
@PlagueRichterian22 жыл бұрын
FLAWLESS "hotdog" design
@paulmuindiwilliam29452 жыл бұрын
@@PlagueRichterian2 and he called the end the tip :)
@Atlas-tv9jb2 жыл бұрын
The way I really thought he was being serious even though he does this every video 😭
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmuindiwilliam2945 6:50 he calls the passageway 'the shaft'
@The-Slow-Dude2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@storminmormin142 жыл бұрын
I think the way this game simulates this has much more in common with the wave dynamics of light. You should make a diffraction grating or double slit or some other optical thing to see what that does.
@J4J02 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS!!!
@WouterVerbruggen2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the game doesnt seem to have any sort of viscosity or proper conservation of mass and momentum in it. Though maybe that doesn't matter at this scale, fluid physics is not my field
@kerbodynamicx4722 жыл бұрын
Using the destructive interference of waves to stop a tsunami!
@knobgobler26392 жыл бұрын
The tesla valve involves fluids in a tube, a compressed space filled with water. In this trench the water can still be displaced upward so you should never get a significant increase in speed so long as the extra volume of water can be displaced. in other words you compressed horizontal space just to fill vertical space while if it were going through the actual valve, it would have no added area to be displaced to and thus go faster.
@notsobreadd2 жыл бұрын
@@Call_Upon_YAH god ain’t real bro
@robertstryjak19732 жыл бұрын
When RCE fools you for a moment with engineering talk before revealing he once again drew the strongest shape. I guess I really should have seen that coming.
@timobensch39042 жыл бұрын
yup, took me off guard I admit. I literally face palmed when I saw what he had done once again lmao
@GummieI2 жыл бұрын
I mean at least from around 4:00 it was super obvious to me really what he was doing there
@RealCivilEngineerGaming2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad some of you are still falling for it 😅
@obijankenobi31622 жыл бұрын
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming should have known better
@CasperTheV2 жыл бұрын
The moment he made the tip I knew it was gonna happen
@mito883 ай бұрын
5:24 you got balls
@Mapping_stuffs3 ай бұрын
Naw💀
@TheTornStone2 ай бұрын
Went to comments for a similar comment.
@YoureBreathtaking2 ай бұрын
And then the "tsunami" cums
@kdub32888 күн бұрын
I was scrolling through the comments like “how did no one else notice this” until I found you 😂
@protoborg2 жыл бұрын
Each "lobe" of the valve should be offset from the next. Thus, the flow is forced to enter one of the lobes. The way you have it it is not forced to enter a lobe. The point at which the lobe feeds back into the main channel is the point at which the next lob branches off on the other side. So you have a series of V's that feed into U's that lead back into the main channel.
@darrinjones93872 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest that.. offset the lobes
@Justlookitupplease2 жыл бұрын
Same, I mean the offset valves are the magic of the whole thing.
@hectorwillis97032 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes lobes
@Checkered_Everything2 жыл бұрын
@@hectorwillis9703 fillipian lobes
@ivanaslan242 жыл бұрын
Came to make the same complaint. This is not a Tesla valve lol
@DanielFSmith2 жыл бұрын
Regarding water flowing faster in narrower channels: Bernoulli's principle only applies to incompressible fluids. Your tidal wave is not height constrained, so the wavefront is highly compressible. You would have to fill in a rigid roof on the strongest shape and prevent it from expanding when the fluid gets excited.
@coxmania12 жыл бұрын
fina fuckingly someone is telling him this game is fucking 3D so the water just goes higher instead of going faster duh!
@EmanLannehc2 жыл бұрын
but is that really the case though? even if this was a tubular system, wouldn't the excess pressure just push more water through the middle instead of accelerating the lateral waterflow? The only way I can see this work out, is because the waterflow in the middle gets slowed down because the diameter of the middle channel actually increases. contrary to that the sidestreams' diameter does not change after the point of entry. Thoughts?
@NotCubes2 жыл бұрын
Given a incompressible fluid, which water is for the most part, and a rigid pipe, that's exactly the same. The water has a certain speed at a certain cross section, which means that the same volume flows through it every unit of time. That is called its volume flow (there is also mass flow, but our water here is incompressible, so it's the same in this model). That volume flow stays the same through the whole system, even if the diameter of the pipe gets smaller or bigger. Imagine a cylinder of water travelling through the pipe at its flow speed, the volume of the cylinder is the volume flow, and the height of the cylinder is equal to the speed. So if the cross section of the pipe gets smaller, the cylinder has to get longer to keep the volume the same. The speed of the water has increased. For a wider pipe it's the same principle, but it slows instead. The water is trying to push more water through the system, but the only way it can do this is by speeding up. Daniel here is correct, since the diameter of the water can change, it will just do that, and won't speed up or slow down. What was build here isn't a tesla valve, cause it won't work properly in an open system. It's more like a gun silencer, taking as much energy out of the wave a possible.
@vincee73892 жыл бұрын
Thought the same. Maybe he is an architect after all😳
@cd146236 ай бұрын
@@NotCubesso fluid mechanics was my weakest class in undergrad, but does the fact that the tidal wave is essentially an impulse instead of a constant flow rate have anything to do with this? Like the water looks like it’s being simulated as a wall of point masses that is slowly losing velocity and getting deflected by the walls of the constriction instead of a liquid being compressed
@clashtwo50662 жыл бұрын
For a not-Tesla-valve valve, it functioned exactly as expected.
@jaden27902 жыл бұрын
lol im not even an engineer and i realize that isn't a tesla valve. in fact its not a valve at all.
@liamcooper67212 жыл бұрын
Yes, I must say it performed as flawed as expected. Left a nice straight "red carpet" for the water to continue unimpeded. This "Engineer" has tarnished the great name of Nichola Tesla
@yeetabix27522 жыл бұрын
@@liamcooper6721 you mean Nikola Tesla? if you're gonna say he's tarnishing the name at least spell it correctly.
@liamcooper67212 жыл бұрын
@@yeetabix2752 Yep, fucked that right up didn't I... Can't believe I missed that when I typed it. Either way, its all a bit redundant now as he has made it properly in the new video
@lufcwls2 жыл бұрын
He’s s civil engineer after all, cut him some slack.
@thatotherguy3756 Жыл бұрын
I was watching that thinking "oh yea thats cool, suport for 90° corners with pillers and I guess a round city is something you can do... oohhhh"
@romanmorozov69742 жыл бұрын
9:45 The formula A1 * v1 = A2 * v2 (for an incompressible fluid like water we can ignore density) works only in one directional motion. When the canal narrowed, if the only direction that the water can go is left, then yes your velocity would have increased. However, the water was able to move upwards, meaning your cross section area of the water flow pretty much didn’t change, which is why you see no change in velocity
@c_n_b2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@ImpendingJoker2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Put a lid on it, to force a pressure increase in the louvers. The resulting compression would then slow the overall velocity of the wave.
@alexsmith50472 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@cheeesesforsure2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you expect at least some increase of velocity through the open section since going up requires pressure against gravity?
@Kepler444f2 жыл бұрын
@@cheeesesforsure Forgot that the game is 3D not 2D
That moment when he tries to engineer a tesla valve, but instead architects a tall wall.
@JosejuanBlanco102 жыл бұрын
No he accidentally made a suppressor for a gun
@i.c.y.2 жыл бұрын
A tall male member at one point
@bshinn48842 жыл бұрын
@@JosejuanBlanco10 lol yeah he made baffles 🤣
@WatchMeWatchStuff2 ай бұрын
Dude makes this whole video and then completely botches the actual shape of a tesla valve lol Still fun to watch
@josedan982 жыл бұрын
I think the physics are actually correct, what you expect applies for sealed pipes, where a reduction in area increases the speed and reduces the pressure. In this case most of the water is at atmospheric pressure-ish, so we won't see the effect of dynamic forces. What we saw in the area reduction example was an increase in the head (height) of the wave, which can occur as there are no volume constraints.
@MurdocK-BR2 жыл бұрын
That and also, he's expecting steady-state flow behavior in an unsteady flow simulation.
@57thorns2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and we also saw a lot of reflected waves back, just as I suspected there would be. The water that "disappeared" was on its merry way back to the ocean.
@DJsTeLF2 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth writing any comment online: what he said is correct according to Navier-Stokes equations for any fluid, any reduction in the area through which there is constant flux will result in an average velocity increase. The gradient of atmospheric pressure caused by gravity leads to a phase-change boundary. That's the top of the theoretical pipe. Conclusion stands; the water **would** speed up in real life. Yours truly, a physicist. Edited for clarity.
@johonn2 жыл бұрын
@@DJsTeLF If you allow the height of the wave to increase, then is there really a reduction in the flux though?
@57thorns2 жыл бұрын
@@DJsTeLF The problem of course is what situation those equations model. If you have a continuos flow rate, then (trivially) the speed will increase, regardless if we have on "open top" situation (where the fluid will rise before reaching a steady state) or a fully restricted pipe. But what happens when we have a "blob" of fluid moving, and it meets the resistance of the angled walls? The full body of the water will be subject to a net force opposite to the direction of movement (it is probably more relevant to speak of movement as this is not a steady flow). Some will be reflected back, some will continue forwards: It is not immediately obvious what speed the fluid getting through will have, or how much of it will get through, depending on the angle of the walls.
@tackytrooper2 жыл бұрын
I love how eager the cars are to drive into the water. Boss be like: "So you're still coming in, right?"
@Yora212 жыл бұрын
There are countless video collections of people slowly driving cars into water. Totally realistic.
@Atheist72 жыл бұрын
@@Yora21 fact checked: TRUE
@rustyhowe39072 жыл бұрын
True to life in every way imaginable.
@parasharkchari2 жыл бұрын
This is very much the reality. I lived in Houston during Katrina, and the day that my area saw the worst flooding, my boss at the time (I was working at a small startup run by a colossal idiot) still called all of us and asked if we were thinking of coming into work.
@Pierce19872 жыл бұрын
Gotta make that money.
@steviousmusic2 жыл бұрын
I love how dramatic his intros are and how anticlimatic and funny the video afterwards is xD I never regret subbing
@Andrew-gm6cl Жыл бұрын
the velocity isn’t affected because there isn’t a top on your tesla valve, which allows the water to get higher instead of forcing it to speed up.
@stonemeep42022 жыл бұрын
I know that you probably won't see this but I've been going through a lot this year and my declining mental health isn't helping. I'm in college right now for engineering and I considered dropping out completely. But your videos have motivated me to keep pursuing to be an engineer and they also cheer me up by showing just how cool engineering can be. I just wanted to thank you.
@lunaticbz35942 жыл бұрын
If your mental health declines too much you could always consider becoming an architect.
@MrSodetv2 жыл бұрын
Keep strong mate, every engineer (me too) considered dropping at least once, but is motivation that keeps us afloat. Always focus on what makes you happy, motivated, take your time and put mental health as your priority.
@DPSVEGAS2 жыл бұрын
Don’t stress man! Be sure to take time to focus on yourself. Engineering courses are no joke and I fully relate to that stress you are feeling. I started out in ME but switched to ISE, I learned that I didn’t like ME as much as I thought/ the courses were just not interesting enough for me to be mentally engaged and happy. If you really feel like you are drowning in work/ without happiness, maybe consider changing your type of engineering to see what you feel fits best for you! Thankfully, there are tons of different types of engineering majors and pathways. Now that I’m graduated, had time to apply to companies, and get some real work experience; I learned most places/firms don’t really care what engineering major you had, they just wanna see that you can learn, problem solve with a team, and be personable.
@protoborg2 ай бұрын
Too bad RCE is not much of an engineer. If he were, he would know that in an open channel the velocity of the wave front is unaltered by narrowing the channel. Fluid dynamics like he is expecting only occur in a pipe or tube where the total volume must remain constant. Since the open channel allows the water to rise thus the increase in speed is transformed into increased depth.
@NRosetheman2 ай бұрын
@@protoborgIt doesn’t matter if RCE is an engineer or not
@neamanja2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how well would a tesla valve work if he actually made it in the game
@theNimboo2 жыл бұрын
Seriously pissed me off so much. Dude was just too lazy to make the real freaking valve. Instead he creates some abomination that he keeps calling the tesla valve but is really who the fuck knows what lol
@Justlookitupplease2 жыл бұрын
@@theNimboo this man feels my pain
@michaelallen29712 жыл бұрын
@@Justlookitupplease lol
@visassess86072 жыл бұрын
@@theNimboo If this is enough to piss you off then you need to relax.
@Vagabond8202 жыл бұрын
I was like, but theirs a clear central channel.
@hashtagPoundsign2 жыл бұрын
Your tesla valve is too symmetrical, something an architect would design.
@UnitSe7en2 жыл бұрын
It's even full of 60/40 angles. Typical architect.
@bzipoli2 жыл бұрын
we got him boys
@SpamSucker2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense… it is architects that shun symmetry, making engineers’ lives more miserable!
@Kira_Laeloria2 жыл бұрын
@@SpamSucker this design of a "valve" makes everyone miserable, because its not an accurate Tesla Valve.
@Democracyofficer-sleeper2 жыл бұрын
>:(
@BsScienceGeek101 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm, "hrs to run simulations." Literally running an SPS hydraulic model right now.
@philips38252 жыл бұрын
5:19 “bracing piers”…. then got me spitting coffee laughing. Ah thank you for that one
@spazzmalone10 ай бұрын
I saw hairy balls on a long schlong with a tsunami moving up the shaft at 6:55 ish.
@adriankoch9648 ай бұрын
Kinetic energy is stored in the bracing piers.
@weswatson53407 ай бұрын
@@adriankoch964🛫✈️✈️✈️
@xXxJSCOTTxXx6 ай бұрын
I got kicked in the bracing piers once. They definitely absorbed the kinetic energy... 😢
@BossdBs-o6p6 ай бұрын
Bruh the bracing piers look like a penis
@galactose_fructosemonosacc3432 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, the valve shown in the beginning of this video looks exactly like vein valves. The flaps are there to prevent blood from flowing backwards
@Alkis052 жыл бұрын
vein valves have movable parts. Tesla valves are fixed. They are conceptually very different.
@dhayes51432 жыл бұрын
@@Alkis05 No Tesla valves were deployed in the making of this video. Galactose is right, these look pretty similar to vein valve, except for being entirely rigid. Moving 'parts' is a bit of a misnomer when every piece grows fluidly out of every other piece. x)
@galactose_fructosemonosacc3432 жыл бұрын
@@Alkis05 well I didn't know that, I'm just sharing the knowledge I have from what I've seen at least
@wobblyboost2 жыл бұрын
There is no human invention of use that did not directly copy nature.
@Alkis052 жыл бұрын
@@wobblyboost That is BS, unless you have a really general and vague definition of "copy", like saying a plane is just a 'copy' of a bird, which it is definitely not.
@Blackraven62 жыл бұрын
I think the main problem of this one is the fact that it's just too cramped. There should be that 180 degree turn. The whole point of Tesla valve is that you redirect waterflow without basically loosing the flow speed (well, as much as you can) and that redirected flow fighting the main flow slowing it down. I guess you understand it now judging by a small preview I see on the right of this commen.t
@SetllaEdie4 ай бұрын
Never regret. If it's good, it's wonderful. If it's bad, it's experience.
@ChengTeoh2 жыл бұрын
So this is what happens to a certain part of the human body when it takes on too much water on a massive scale. Glad that you added the meatus.
I'm sorry to say it Matt. Although you're a great engineer, you kinda try to use 2D solutions in a 3D environment. A venturi will speed up the flow, but not if there is still other places for your fluid to go (like up)...
@juanc19192 жыл бұрын
that isnt what went wrong, he built the valve incorrectly.
@erumaayuuki2 жыл бұрын
@@juanc1919 also, but I'm mainly talking about why the fluid didn't speed up
@RealCivilEngineerGaming2 жыл бұрын
Even with open channels a narrower channel will increase flow velocity! But yes, Tesla Valves aren't meant to be open channels I agree there!
@erumaayuuki2 жыл бұрын
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming Ah fair enough. But maybe not so much with tsunamis 😅
@michaels.37092 жыл бұрын
The 3rd dimension here isn't entirely unconstrained because the fluid is in a gravitational field. Because it takes additional work to push the fluid higher (as opposed to sideways, parallel to the surface), you'd see both an increase in height and an increase in velocity.
@johnmiksa35682 жыл бұрын
This dude just trolled us this whole video just to draw a weenier.
@suzannevanhousen74227 күн бұрын
I mean he does that in every video
@Difdauf22 күн бұрын
I would argue that just closing the wall would have been a lot more cheaper and effective than the valve itself. If you need to have walls of 1km high over 30km long, this kind of defeat the point of having an anti-tsunami system. Just make a wall or even easier build the city on a mountain.
@RealCivilEngineerGaming2 жыл бұрын
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@JohnSmith-gv1fp2 жыл бұрын
@TSF712 жыл бұрын
Well done on getting into the trending area
@that_weird_vtuber2 жыл бұрын
The valve is ment to be offset left and right to create more turbulence
@dejank95082 жыл бұрын
only 4 likes and 3 comments
@ledorf2 жыл бұрын
Please read up on Tesla Valve and redo, this is not a Tesla Valve...
@sperzieb00n2 жыл бұрын
makes me wonder how that design would do in timberborn, since its water simulation does seem to handle volume as well as velocity
@cathygrandstaff19572 жыл бұрын
Good question, could RCE save the Timberborners from a tsunami?
@Tachy-yi9re2 жыл бұрын
This simulation is actually more accurate than his logic. The reason the velocity doesn't change is because it's a canal and not a pipe. Pressure becomes depth instead of velocity.
@joelmcloughlin56832 жыл бұрын
The bracing piers were a nice touch I think there needs to be little bridges going in weird directions, like a veined network over the canals
@ivar50212 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I didn't want to be the only one.
@pyr666 Жыл бұрын
so a critical part of a tesla valve is that there is no straight line path through the valve. to make it properly, the 2 sides should be staggered, so the freestanding walls are opposite a wall connected to the outside of the valve, and the freestanding walls should cross slightly past the center of the valve.
@jarkkopolicarpio29652 жыл бұрын
5:14 RCE: *Explaining engineering* Me: *Taking notes for college* RCE: *Reveals the strongest shape* Me: *Facepalms*
@au51emu2 жыл бұрын
It would have been cool if he'd built a tesla valve
@Retaferyr11 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@imperfectclark9 ай бұрын
he even shows the patent blueprint -- conspicuously different than his design. he wouldn't have needed such high walls.
@gbornitz2 жыл бұрын
I believe, an important feature of the tesla valve is, that the water flows back into the main stream, blocking it. But in this case, the main wave was faster than the waves at the side, neglegting this advantage. So with an extra curve for the main wave in order to match the distance traveled by the second wave, this walve should become even more effective.
@dperreno Жыл бұрын
While the speed of water flow will change if it is going through a nozzle or diffuser, the speed of the waveform will not. This is because the water can simply go up, thus increasing the height of the wave. If your channels were contained (had a lid or roof), then the water speed would change according to the cross sectional area of the channel. But since there is no upper bound, the water just changes in depth instead.
@FireBeam2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna suggest a tesla valve! You're awesome! Edit: (watchs video) The symmetry you made is detrimental to the tesla valve. I know it's a natural inclination, but almost everything in nature that "works" is staggered, oscillates or is uneven. Simple example: put your 'symmetrical' feet side by side touching. Now, stagger them. They will fit together like puzzle pieces and take up less space. The tesla valve wasn't Tesla "dabbling" in fluid dynamics. It was him applying the same principles to different fields, and pointing to a possible Unified Field Theory.
@JiveHundred2 жыл бұрын
there shouldn't be a single large path down the middle, the valve should alternate channels and allow a single main ess-curved route
@joshuacottenham91492 жыл бұрын
While he's focused on the channel i cant help but notice the main flow is just running straight down the runnway instead of into the runways. I hope he find a better way to express this mechanism and makes a vid about it. Definitely can redeem himself
@Dreddip2 жыл бұрын
As an engineer you'd think he'd want to recreate as accurately as possible. I'd say he missed a major design feature of directing the flow into the chute/channel of the next stage as in the Tesla design. I'm starting to think that he's an Architect playing an Engineer on YT 🤣
@relei2 жыл бұрын
7:40 no need to apologize, I was hoping you would do that
@朕是神2 жыл бұрын
Remidner that all those hydraulic theories (the ones you're thinking of, I think) and tesla valves are for when it's a tube that is filled all the way, without a vertical dimension for the fluid to go when pressure builds up. That's why the velocity isn't changed much; water surface wave group velocity is only roughly dependant on the depth, not wave amplitude or whatnot.
@liamcooper67212 жыл бұрын
something he never had to worry about with his "$1000's" software.
@gaussmanv22 жыл бұрын
You can do this with either a maze or you have interlocking "teeth" coming off the wall to the middle. The teeth can be well spaced out and then put a bowl at the end. It'll speed the water up, but it drains a lot of pressure. Also, it would be cool if someone were to actually make a tsunami simulation game. You could probably do some simplified version of a CFD program. It won't be super accurate, but you're also not using it to sign off on a design.
@llspeedup99302 жыл бұрын
i want to do something like that but 2d. basicly you have a village in a river cause an achitect thought it would look good and you place defenses to defend.
@kullen20422 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if the wavefront would actually slow down IRL, because the wave is not like a 2D-fluid or something. It can get bigger or lower which is not possible for 2D fluids (or confided 3d fluids for that matter). So I think that reducing the height of the wave is actually the more realistic way of reducing the energy of the wave. I wouldn't really expect the group velocity to change that much in this context. Perhaps in other words: As far as I understand, the tesla valve is primarily designed to stop a constant laminal flow. A tsunami however is a singular wave-packet, which is also not really confined to the tesla valve like a 2D fluid would be. So it still makes sense for the valve to reduce the wave packets energy, but for me it doesn't make intuitive sense to change the dispersion of the water waves and thereby change the velocity of the packet. (I would never expect a wave of lower energy to be slower, I would always expect it to have a lower amplitude.)
@zeyogoat2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking too: If unconstrained, the colliding transverse waves would merely superimpose (e.g. displace upwards) because they have the dimension to do so. Not having realistic fluid velocity dampened (heh) this simulation, but I was still entertained and learned something.
@Aniaas12 жыл бұрын
@@zeyogoat true but the water here isn't unconstrained - the fluid is subject to gravity, so you would expect some velocity increase because at some point it will be easier to go sideways than lift all the water above
@DJsTeLF2 жыл бұрын
I dont have much more time or energy to comment so I'll just say this: you guys have written a lot of words without any references or mention of the pertinent mathematics. What Matt said is correct according to the Navier-Stokes equations. Yours sincerely, a physicist.
@kullen20422 жыл бұрын
@@DJsTeLF navier-stokes is usually for a hardly confined liquid. and i dont have much time either, so i just dumped my thougths instead of writing a thesis about it. sincerly, a fellow physicist.
@ChristofferFlensburg2 жыл бұрын
Yep. The "narrow --> faster" principle comes from the fluid not being compressible, which is not true for this system. The wave pushed through a narrow gap just grows taller to carry the same amount of water through the gap at the same speed. It seems it propagates like a 2D wave, with reflections and the spherical waves out from the "point source" after the gap. So rather than modelling the game tsunami as a 2D fluid, it would probably be more accurately modeled as a 2D wave. Which is probably also more similar to how it'd behave in reality. I get a bit "hammer seeks nail" vibes from this: RCE knows a bit hydrodynamics, so he pretends the system follows hydrodynamics principles without really considering if his model actually applies.
@РусланБектурганов-в4ш Жыл бұрын
...Только вот по схеме Тесла данные узлы расположены не парами, а поочередно + имеют определенный размер относительно трубы. Построив по схеме, у тебя повысится эффективность торможения банально из-за того, что просвета для потока воды будет меньше + сами узлы дадут больше обратной силы. И да, привет из СНГ
@meson1832 жыл бұрын
A further adaptation would be this: instead of having a big wall all the way across the bay with just one Tesla valve channel, build a set of Tesla channels, all the way across the width of the bay. But closer to the ocean with more space behind for the city. The Tesla valve sea defenses thereby break up and dissipate the energy of the water before it reaches the city. THEN, you only need a very small wall in front of the city itself to ensure that it keeps the city perfectly dry. And that's only really needed due to the deficiencies of the game's water physics. It means the inhabitants get a good view of the ocean too, instead of one down a narrow channel (although it is a strong efficient channel). It also means the river can flow out of one of the channels, relatively unhindered.
@DJsTeLF2 жыл бұрын
Nice idea, except when you consider the practicalities (==cost) of all that landscaping involved)
@AliceErishech2 жыл бұрын
@@DJsTeLF I'm not sure practicality is a focus of this miniseries, lol.
@jakesnake55012 жыл бұрын
This is why we keep civil engineers busy. This is what happens when they have too much time on their hands. But really, great video, Matt and team!
@hpmc74262 жыл бұрын
Now I’m wondering if my neighborhood actually looks like a tip/head.
@atrumluminarium2 жыл бұрын
For the velocity to increase, your channel needs to have a "lid" to keep the maximum height constrained at a constant value. With varying height, the rate of fluid flow is still changing but it is doing so by a change in mass per unit length rather than by a change in velocity The game is actually simulating correctly I think
@nevisstkitts8264 Жыл бұрын
Tesla Patent 1,329,559 "Valvular Conduit" means that the noun is conduit while the adjective is valvular. Proper specification would be "Tesla Conduit." The patent specifies that the device employs both expansion and contraction together with redirection to destructively interfere with the propagation of wave impulses in one direction. Key attributes include at least 10 degree alternating deviations in the main channel flow path which direct the main flow into a bucket thrust reverser on the opposite side of the channel. This necessitates that the repeating walls are offset along the channel by one full stage length. The video simulation shows them opposite each other. Properly constructed the Tesla anti-tsunami channel would not allow a view of the city from the beach. Additionally, the Tesla conduit has a top plate which would prevent any overtopping. IMO Tesla designed the conduit for fluid flow in opposite directions. It's not clear why simple flood walls would not suffice. If the intent was to limit tsunami penetration up a river, then that would make sense.
@danialloganathan28032 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to have a second empty canal with no wall to compare the height of the tsumani
@ddnava964 ай бұрын
Would have been nice to have a tesla valve
@hydroelectriclyre27752 жыл бұрын
i think the water might have been programmed as effectively massless, behaving more like light wave interactions rather than matter interactions
@knobgobler26392 жыл бұрын
Nah, the dork just doesn't understand the difference between a channel and a tube. Compression in a channel will raise water level rather than speed it up. The wave changes are exactly what should happen.
@Mudboy442 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to aggressively explain a Tesla valve to my friends and family
@OminousPinapple2 жыл бұрын
Well if you take this video as an example you'll be explaining it wrong
@knobgobler26392 жыл бұрын
@@OminousPinapple yes, first of all this is a canal and not a tube like how a tesla valve should be, so any compression of water is just gonna raise water level rather than speed water flow. Engineer needs to restudy his physics a bit.
@xGolBLiiN2 жыл бұрын
@@knobgobler2639 The canal bit I’m totally fine with writing off as a limitation to the game, what OminousPineapple is likely pointing out is that design isn’t reminiscent of a Tesla valve at all. It shouldn’t have a straight open line down the center, the terrain should be interlocking to further impede the flow, the whole point is to disrupt the flow with every “section” or “loop” making the majority of the water flow into the loop rather than past it
@Ihat31di00ts3 ай бұрын
6:54 "we have the tsunami going up the shaft..." Lmaoo bro wtf 😂😂😂
@JoshuaNicoll2 жыл бұрын
There is a mod for the cities game that lets you use the edit level terrain tool settings in game, it has much more options and lets you change sea level, great water sources et cetera. It's called Extra Landscaping Tools
@tygates43012 жыл бұрын
As soon as he drew that curve I knew it was going to be the longest and strongest shaped valve
@claytontaylor82122 жыл бұрын
5:29 bro...
@KenoattX5 ай бұрын
Wow!
@initiativeplaytherapy884 ай бұрын
😂
@matthewwurtenberger14004 ай бұрын
I just started giggling
@syrrix3 ай бұрын
South Park level of map drawing!
@fluxnoble3 ай бұрын
That's a massive..... JOHNSON
@jAfr0Thunder8610 ай бұрын
I think if you off set the top and bottom parts of the valve with your flood walls and narrowed the long parts of the wall a bit, so they nearly overlapped, you could prevent the Tsunami from even exiting the second valve.
@dylanladnier2 жыл бұрын
This is a fairly accurate depiction of a baffled suppressor. The tidal wave acts much the same as the gas expansion being slowed down in the geometries inside the tube. Interesting outcome as that wasn't the goal.
@kevkev59352 жыл бұрын
Was about to say the same thing as that was the first thing I saw as well. Laminar flow vs turbulent flow.
@ashkebora7262 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is far more of a baffle system than a Tesla valve. It's really not a Tesla valve at all with a straight shot central path, IMO...
@talinpeacy72222 жыл бұрын
Bruh, he had a serious architect moment when making this video, kinda just imitating the rough shape without understanding the underlying concept and basically making something ineffective but nice and symmetrical
@zwren36932 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see this again with the Tesla valve off-shoots staggered. I’d be willing to bet you could remove 1-2 of the valves (depending on the water physics).
@dylanzrim36352 жыл бұрын
And a diffuser at the opening to move the first wave to the outside a bit
@daspec7 ай бұрын
Now we need a time machine to take this design back to ATLANTIS
@MinkSquared2 жыл бұрын
one more thing, a tesla valve doesnt have a straight line, that would just compromise the effectiveness
@dimitrimorselli95062 жыл бұрын
I think with a little offset in the openings in the valves it would have been even more effective
@BosonCollider Жыл бұрын
In order to wrok, you need to make each step asymmetric. The one that takes the straight path must expand so that it travels more slowly, while the one that takes the bendy path must contract so it speeds up and makes it to the crossing point at roughly the same time
@FNPetersen18 күн бұрын
Assuming the game's physics engine replicates the Venturi Effect, anyway.
@brianwoodbridge882 жыл бұрын
5:19 “bracing piers” saw it coming, still laughed 😂
@justicevanpool90252 жыл бұрын
I thought the bleed off gully at the tip was a great idea for releaving physical stress. This area is particularly prone to building up fatigue so regular release would be necessary.
@Robespierre-lI9 ай бұрын
Very necessary
@charlieinabox11642 жыл бұрын
7:35 When you started the test this was all I could think of. "Come on RCE! how could you overlook that detail.... HE DELIVERS!"
@CalebGill-h5t3 ай бұрын
All perceiving is also thinking, all reasoning is also intuition, all observation is also invention.
@jjtimothy90572 жыл бұрын
5:24 he even left an opening at the end of the “valve”😂
@NateJGardner2 жыл бұрын
RCE: "I don't think you'd ever be able to get a game to run this in real time" Two Minute Papers: "Hold my coffee"
@chiryosaki56822 жыл бұрын
I think you build more of a silencer than the Tesla valve 😅
@SpamSucker2 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw a description of a Tesla valve, silencer (suppressor) was the very first application I envisioned! Bravo!
@OliviaChild-r9p4 ай бұрын
The bird of paradise alights only upon the hand that does not grasp.
@jacobcarlson40102 жыл бұрын
Stevo: This is going to be another of those “hold my beer and watch this” moments, isn’t it? Me: Oh, you betcha.
@WelziFC72 жыл бұрын
I like to think the creators of cities skylines see these videos and just think “we’ve got to fix that for next time”
@jans19822 жыл бұрын
Physics of the game is right. The speed would be faster in a closed pipe. Some of the energy became kinectic and some became potential.
@travisziemer41512 ай бұрын
This didn’t at all test what it set out to; the software was completely insufficient and that wasn’t a Tesla valve.
@cheshire12 жыл бұрын
"I'll have to let the channel open so the water can flow out, annoyingly" * proceeds to build a tesla valve, which is literally designed to let water flow in one direction but not the other * * doesn't put it on the channel *
@asimovstarling88062 жыл бұрын
An important note, making everything perfect symmetrical is how you fail to stop the water. you aren't giving the water blind alley to go down or paths that slow the flow. You literally gave it a very wide straight line down the center to accelerate through. A real civil engineer would have tried to stop the water.
@laurenceperkins74682 жыл бұрын
The ramps leading up to the tunnel are probably a cost calculation. Your walls get thinner toward the top, so it's probably finding the breakover point between the expense of the tunnel distance vs the expense of the height of the ramp.
@ddnava964 ай бұрын
The thing about the tesla valve is that it allows water to flow almost freely in one direction but almost entirely prevents water to go in the other direction
@Jack_Wolfe2 жыл бұрын
15:33 There is a problem, you are trying to split the wave into three, as you split it, the the smaller path of least resistance, actually loose force so you need to split it into two with each entrance, this also helps water flow the opposite way easier. causing water eddies in the path of half of the water. Each valve is offset for maximum effect.
@Grey-the-gandalf2 жыл бұрын
The main reason why the wave isn't high is still that the town is a lot higher than the ocean - so the Tsunami starts alot deeper xD
@LayneBenofsky2 жыл бұрын
right -- if the incline weren't also a factor, the valve might have a chance to do more good! :D
@deltacx10592 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how well it would work if you staggered the pockets and narrowed the gap
@setsunaes5 ай бұрын
"Nikola Tesla, one of the main contributors to the invention of electricity..." I have never before bailed out of an video this fast. Couldn't stand that phrase.
@CyberKnightX212 жыл бұрын
It's really interesting how this turned out, however the offset of the right and left sides of the Tesla valve was missed in the design. I'm curious how that would have affected the water in this. I know in real world physics that adds to the amount of flow reduction, but how would it have gone in the game?
@liamcooper67212 жыл бұрын
it wouldn't work as intended because a Tesla valve is a closed system. As modelled in the game it is open topped thereby not allowing the fluid to change velocities. Not to mention it's also modelled horribly wrong from the blueprint.
@werd34262 жыл бұрын
This video is enough proof of him being an engineer Is the contraption finished? Yes! Does it do everything as we intended? No.. Does it get the job done? Yes! Amazing!
@christopher22152 жыл бұрын
Very similar to the designs of firearm suppressor baffles.
@See_nn2 жыл бұрын
Went from water to guns
@solared2 жыл бұрын
well, air is a fluid.
@nolankuffner35738 ай бұрын
I feel like, instead of a third being the gap here, to account for the less realistic wave flow physics, going to a quarter (even 28%) would be sufficient to prevent the water from reaching the city. The larger curves to the valves should also prevent the overspill, which, while not rebounding as fast as in real life, still adds enough reverberation to limit the wave's flow. Definitely an interesting experiment, and a credit to the game designers for this being even remotely quantifiable.
@PoserGalore2 жыл бұрын
It still blows my mind that cities skylines is still making noise after all these years! Proud of this amazing community
@KudoRedfox2 ай бұрын
2 years later it got a sequel and it was an disaster so it'll stick around longer
@cosmic54862 жыл бұрын
Pro tip:if someone made a Tesla valve with that kind of walls The velocity of the tsunami would be too strong and break through those walls
@abhishekmohapatra66172 жыл бұрын
You could have rounded the base of the shaft, instead of rectangulr edges, that would cause less of a splash and you could have gotten a more powerful tsunami.
@danielrobinson7872 Жыл бұрын
Not only is the valve made improperly, it isn’t designed to completely stop a fluid or gas. It merely slows it down substantially.
@JesusCheeseburger2 жыл бұрын
5:04 "One thing I wanna do, just because I'm an engineer." Oh, we know what you're "engineering" all right.
@hasangarmarudi21782 жыл бұрын
Great experiment! And great effort as well, ty for the video! Also want to point out maybe tesla valves are more effective against a constant flow of water rather than an impulse ( or vice versa, idk actually) that would be a good addition to this experiment, maybe a short video?
@techoeastveld2 жыл бұрын
Bro I think my heart skipped a beat silently when you zoomed out of the finished landscaping 💀
@98ahni Жыл бұрын
This isn't a tesla valve and that isn't the theory behind it. The wikipedia page explains it very well if you want to know how it should work.