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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege Жыл бұрын
LMFAO, "October" should be "August." I am so overtired, gang, but the month that comes BEFORE September is August, not October. Apologies. Please make me feel better by watching this great new COmmander game I get with Ben Wheeler, Shivam, and Kuro here: here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ap-mfayvj712epI
@RobThePrincess
@RobThePrincess Жыл бұрын
I blame Julius and Augustus Cesar. If they didn't feel the need to put themselves into the calendar, you would have been correct! Hahaha
@hobbes2234
@hobbes2234 Жыл бұрын
Was about to comment on this. My confusion was through the roof.
@phforNZ
@phforNZ Жыл бұрын
Cotrex too 😂 Love this content regardless.
@IceWeaver
@IceWeaver Жыл бұрын
Whatever you say, Time Lord
@ljcostanzo7516
@ljcostanzo7516 Жыл бұрын
I was just trying to figure that one out. Thanks for the clarity, Prof!
@thatstingray4147
@thatstingray4147 Жыл бұрын
I love Katanas so much, I just wish that they had the color selection that Dragon Shields have. I love having all my decks be different colors.
@andrewb378
@andrewb378 Жыл бұрын
This is the only downside to using Katanas. There's only like 8 colors. Amazing AMAZING sleeves. If adding more colors would detract from the product I hope they don't. But oh man if they made more colors I'd be so pumped.
@michaelheadrick9036
@michaelheadrick9036 Жыл бұрын
Exactly if they only had dual colors like dragon shields.....oh boy oh boy
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI Жыл бұрын
As a huge fan of Eclipse sleeves, I wish Eclipse had the color options of Katanas :v The selection is similar, but Katana's choices are slightly different, and MUCH better for it.
@mistermastermind528
@mistermastermind528 Жыл бұрын
Yep. I also wish Katanas and Eclipses have the same color options with Dragon Shields. I try to sleeve my decks on theme with their color and having variants of the basic colors in magic is great.
@jayjaynator2911
@jayjaynator2911 Жыл бұрын
They can't even have sustained supply of limited color. I love them, but evem if I stick to the most generic color, they still have a hard time supplying demands.
@MeggidoX
@MeggidoX Жыл бұрын
One con of the Katana sleeves is they only supply 100 sleeves. Dragonshield consistently gives anywhere from 102-106 from my personal experience which allows a few extras in case you need to replace a damaged sleeve. You damage one katana sleeve and you need another box.
@jingovalentine3489
@jingovalentine3489 11 ай бұрын
I noticed that too
@ApeSkit01
@ApeSkit01 11 ай бұрын
They’re super slippery too. Everyone uses them at my LGS and we all have to be careful for a few games with new sleeves because the deck can slide all over the table 😂
@AlastairGames
@AlastairGames 10 ай бұрын
Since deck sizes are only 75 cards, this isn't a big issue for me.
@Jester0153
@Jester0153 9 ай бұрын
​@AlastairGames unless you're playing commander, than it's exactly 100 so not super helpful there.
@jingovalentine3489
@jingovalentine3489 9 ай бұрын
@@Jester0153 spares are always handy
@laviathon10
@laviathon10 Жыл бұрын
If katanas ever start branching out into more color options and keep the same level of consistent quality, they will easily become my top sleeve of choice.
@lordhallibel3604
@lordhallibel3604 Жыл бұрын
nah ultra pro is the best
@PaDDy7389
@PaDDy7389 11 ай бұрын
@@lordhallibel3604 I've used them all by now and in my opinion UP only comes in third.
@jacksonschumacher175
@jacksonschumacher175 Жыл бұрын
I know that you have already reviewed virtually every single tcg supplement on the market but I just want to say that these are some of my favorite videos that you have made. They are so well written and I usually hate watching reviews but I found myself watching your reviews for things I would never buy for hours.
@user-sw7js4jw7v
@user-sw7js4jw7v Жыл бұрын
“It is a feeling like winning a game of Magic, only I can do it.” 😂 Prof, you slay me
@francisblake434
@francisblake434 Жыл бұрын
fantastic review. i think it's good to return to these brands every few years and see if they still hold up or improve on their old grades
@NG-NeutralGood
@NG-NeutralGood 2 ай бұрын
One thing that I love about eclipses is the black background on the face side while have a different color on the back side. It makes the cards blend perfectly into the sleeves and makes my revised bolts pop.
@lukecasagranda719
@lukecasagranda719 Жыл бұрын
Katana sleeves are my favorite sleeves, they shuffle perfectly and they look and feel better than any other sleeve
@brandonenochs
@brandonenochs Жыл бұрын
I use them for all of my decks and love the shuffle feel. However, do yours develop little nicks over time? I've also seen waves develop on the top of the clear part of the sleeve.
@lukecasagranda719
@lukecasagranda719 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonenochs yup, i had 1 get that ripple, so i keep it to protect a sideboard card, but yes the little nicks on the corner is common after a drop or two of the card on the ground or an aggressive shuffle, but its so minor it doesnt matter
@AvRiku
@AvRiku Жыл бұрын
I use both Katana's and Dragon Shields i love them both, i slightly pref the Katana shuffle feel
@operationsauce
@operationsauce Жыл бұрын
super slippery at first but immediately switched over to them for all my deck after using the first set i got for a week!
@lukecasagranda719
@lukecasagranda719 Жыл бұрын
@@operationsauce yup they gotta be worn in a little, but i kinda like them because of that, it feels like you gotta break them in
@alexallin3942
@alexallin3942 11 ай бұрын
The UP Eclipse has always been my go-to, and I'm glad they've been more consistently good recently. The one thing that puts them above the others for me is the black inner background for all the different external colours. They just look so good on the table.
@killrnoob
@killrnoob Жыл бұрын
Just going to say that I really appreciate the depth that these videos go to SHOW why the sleeves are good or bad. Professor, your videos really are a shining example of what a product review and comparison video should be. Please never stop making videos.
@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs Жыл бұрын
As a brand new collector, and looking to play my first game asap. This has been invaluable 😊
@1killer911
@1killer911 Жыл бұрын
He's back to his roots! The product reviews are my favorite content you do.
@bububu__
@bububu__ Жыл бұрын
i missed these kinds of vids, i could watch you talk about cardboard accessories for years
@PlaneswalkerProject
@PlaneswalkerProject Жыл бұрын
I can appreciate how even after all these years, these sleeve reviews are still such a joy to watch. Also, in irrelevant noise, is that the same playmat you used years ago?
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege Жыл бұрын
Yep! That is the exact same playmat.
@PlaneswalkerProject
@PlaneswalkerProject Жыл бұрын
​@@TolarianCommunityCollege now that is durability. Also gonna share this with some Lorcana groups I'm in. Lotta new folks to TCGs that have been asking about sleeves.
@TabbyLavalamp
@TabbyLavalamp Жыл бұрын
@@PlaneswalkerProject I've got my three decks all sleeved in Dragon Shield Matte Clear. I think Lorcana has the best looking card backs of any of the TCGs I've seen and with clear sleeves they look great in the inkwell. I am curious about the quality though of the official Lorcana sleeves.
@berzerk130
@berzerk130 Жыл бұрын
​@@PlaneswalkerProjectI've been getting into Lorcana as well! My partner is jumping into TCG's with it, and despite her initial reservations on sleeves, it's clicking now 😂
@theGougoum
@theGougoum 11 ай бұрын
Now ASMR shuffling videos is something i didn't knew i needed until now... Thx Prof 😂
@GrandDungeonDad
@GrandDungeonDad Жыл бұрын
I just want to say as someone who likely comes at life from a very different general viewpoint than most magic players and the professor himself I very much appreciate his consistent courtesy and class and open genuineness. For me this channel is not just about learning about the game I love as much as it is about learning how to human. Thanks for being you Prof!
@newjerseydamo
@newjerseydamo Жыл бұрын
As someone who got in to MTG last year and first time playing CCGs in over 20 years, I tried katana sleeves and have a few decks sleeved with them. Unfortunately theyre too tight for double sleeving and really struggle. I've also had mixed results shuffling. Just recently switched to Dragon Shield Mattes to give them a try, and absolutely love them. Very interesting video, many thanks!
@seydaneen8970
@seydaneen8970 Жыл бұрын
i get a little sad there's not as many review videos anymore so it makes me happy to see one pop up again
@GothamKnight-hsw4vx526430
@GothamKnight-hsw4vx526430 Жыл бұрын
WWOOOOOHOOO!!!!! I've been pining for product reviews again! This was such a treat to see, thankyou so much prof!! Always need the up to date scoop on card stuff n card stuff accessories from ya.
@chuckstevens4985
@chuckstevens4985 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved the sleeves and deck boxes series. Love to see them whenever I can
@drkatz1192
@drkatz1192 Жыл бұрын
This may be a strange compliment, but I love that you’re still doing videos on card shuffling, quality, and the like. In a strange way, this a relaxing break from all the product fatigue and power creep in MtG. Reminds me what the game is all about, sleeving up some cool cards, shuffling and having fun together. 💜 Thank you Professor!
@NewCommentor
@NewCommentor Жыл бұрын
Dragon Shield is my choice because of the color options. I think another brand could distinguish itself by offering something other than primary rainbow colors. I really want natural earth tones.
@Surberus1066
@Surberus1066 Жыл бұрын
I see so many people with wild sleeve designs, and all I want is slate gray.
@Razor_Blade8
@Razor_Blade8 Жыл бұрын
I am 100% with you here. The variety of color is amazing. I like to color code my decks, some weird obsessive compulsion I have, so everything has to match color wise (yes, even the deck box). Dragonshield have the colors I want for the decks I build. The dual mattes have been my favorite because I love how the black inside blends in with the black border of my MTG cards while still having a matching color to my deck on the outside. Looks awesome to me. I’ve been lucky to not have gotten a bad batch of dual mattes yet. I cross my fingers that I don’t.
@robertrodriguez7789
@robertrodriguez7789 2 ай бұрын
This has been a fantastic video for someone who is new to cards and have been playing Lorcana with my wife. So I really appreciate the time and effort you took to put this together, twas greatly informative
@Technizor
@Technizor Жыл бұрын
Time for a "KMC Hypermatte" type re-evaluation on the previous top dog sleeve
@meetreality5145
@meetreality5145 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment, KMC is top dog for me
@super8ben
@super8ben Жыл бұрын
Same.
@Mimz670
@Mimz670 Жыл бұрын
​@@meetreality5145Same 😂. They're my first sleeves and never had a reason to try anything else
@mattledoux2340
@mattledoux2340 Жыл бұрын
I came to the comments section. Just to ask about the KMC brand, it’s what I’ve always used as a go to, especially back when dragon shields were inconsistent (5+ years ago I’m an old man)
@raphaelnavarrette8156
@raphaelnavarrette8156 Жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment. KMC is the goat
@carlegeiger
@carlegeiger Жыл бұрын
Reviews are back! Thanks for letting us know the optimal sleeves for use!
@mrtd8679
@mrtd8679 Жыл бұрын
YES!!!!!! Been hoping for new product reviews....haven't even watched but absolutely stoked! You rock Prof and team!
@Aurora_Dies
@Aurora_Dies Жыл бұрын
Hey Prof! as a newly returning mtg player you’ve helped me get a grip of the playing field in such a meaningful way! you help me stay joyful and a good sport in life and it means the world!!!
@leethax100
@leethax100 Жыл бұрын
Eclipse are great. Love the look of the black border, anti glare, and they seem durable enough
@notjefflee
@notjefflee Жыл бұрын
I really like eclipses for the black inner backing, are there any other brands/sleeves that do the same?
@whitneypanda
@whitneypanda Жыл бұрын
@@notjefflee Dragon Shield Dual Mattes are the same but much better in my opinion
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 Жыл бұрын
And they aren’t huge sleeves like the DS. DS sleeves are way too big and get all bent and curved on top. Eclipse are almost the same size as the card
@booksareOP
@booksareOP Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I just began playing magic in March, and wanted to get professional sleeves to replace my simple soft sleeves that I use! Thank you so much!
@andreccodo
@andreccodo Жыл бұрын
Love Gamegenic's sleeves because they are one of the best in brazil because they come with equivalent pricing and the same quality. Unfortunately Dragon shields are sooo expensive here
@tash1201
@tash1201 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the international perspective! I love gamegenic too, color coding my cards has been so easy
@heliobarbosa3525
@heliobarbosa3525 Жыл бұрын
Dragon Shield is cheaper in China, so keep that in mind... (Game genic will still be marginally cheaper and readily available, tho).
@delailama736
@delailama736 Жыл бұрын
I went to Gamegenics because they were way cheaper after Dragons Shields, Katanas, Eclipses and others. I think I like the feel of Eclipses more but Gamegenics are my favourite and I stick to one colour for all my decks so I can always have spares laying around to use.
@andreccodo
@andreccodo Жыл бұрын
@@heliobarbosa3525 still wouldn't want to wait lot's of time to buy the sleeves for a deck that I just bought in my lgs But good to know
@green_dragon_knight
@green_dragon_knight Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great product video Prof 😊 It’s great to know after so many years you’re still going to great lengths to let the Community know what products are high quality and good value for money
@villjess77
@villjess77 Жыл бұрын
I always considered the way that the deck lays on the table (shifted and leaning) as a point of contention when purchasing sleeves. I feel as though the extra space that the Dragon Shields have make for a 'leaning tower of cards' when not placed perfectly center in the sleeve. I've never used Katana but am willing to give them a try after this amazing review! Cheers!
@bryanmcpherson4258
@bryanmcpherson4258 Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree that katanas are a tier sleeves however an overlooked but important review aspect here is how well your deck stays stacked unassisted while in use. I think eclipses win this by landslide.
@EXHUMEnCONSUME
@EXHUMEnCONSUME Жыл бұрын
KMC makes some great sleeves, too. Similar feel to Dragon Shield from what I can tell, but better fit.
@theblang1
@theblang1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I kept seeing the KMC perfect fit inner + DS matte outer as a recommended combo, but it was too tight for my comfort. The KMC inner + Hyper Matte outers are perfect!
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI Жыл бұрын
Just resleeved a deck from Dragon Shield inners + outers to the same inners but KMC Hypermat outers. The fit is tighter and it's a better cut (I'm not a fan of how tall the Dragon Shields are cut), but more importantly, the whole thing can fit in an Ultimate Guard 100+ Boulder where the Dragon Shields are slightly too thick to where two cards have to be shifted to the side.
@animeking1357
@animeking1357 Жыл бұрын
Kmc perfect fit inners are what I use for my inner sleeves and they are a dream. A little tight though. I often have to put an extra card in the outer sleeve while sleeving for the first time otherwise the inner sleeve starts to slide off from the friction.
@theblang1
@theblang1 Жыл бұрын
@@animeking1357 You using DS or KMC outers?
@animeking1357
@animeking1357 Жыл бұрын
@@theblang1 I use KMC Inners with Dragon Shield for the outers.
@jacktupp4358
@jacktupp4358 Жыл бұрын
My issue with Katana's is they do seem to degrade over time. I have decks in Dragon Shields and Katanas and the Dragon Shields hold up fine, so it's not dirty hands, lol. I also have Eclipse but, even though I love the look and feel of them, I find them to be a little on the small side so I only use them for draft decks for FNM or individual sleeves for use in my albums. Love the product reviews, keep 'em coming!
@druidobianco9734
@druidobianco9734 5 ай бұрын
Ever tried KMC?
@jacktupp4358
@jacktupp4358 5 ай бұрын
@@druidobianco9734 I've used KMC inners.
@lukestange
@lukestange Жыл бұрын
dragon shield mattes are really good when they're good but QC has been a massive issue for the past few years. Many packs that i've tried have corners fold almost immediately (sometimes in just one round of best of 3!). as such, i pretty much only use titanshields or katanas now.
@INFLAMESMASTER08
@INFLAMESMASTER08 Жыл бұрын
Jep. I bought two packs of the same dragon shield sleeves and they look different when stacked into a deck.
@kif3921
@kif3921 Жыл бұрын
I tried katanas and the corners folded quickly as well
@yScribblezHD
@yScribblezHD Жыл бұрын
As a new player of TCGs, I didn't know this wasn't normal tbh - thanks for the info!
@jonathanfagerlund976
@jonathanfagerlund976 Жыл бұрын
I had one bad pack of mattes, but customer service took care of it. The real problem for me has been their perfect-fits. So many are WAY too tight.
@gorpgorp6853
@gorpgorp6853 Жыл бұрын
I've experienced the same, they are very inconsistent. Eclipse has been my choice ever since and i wont ever go back, since the shuffle feeling is actually way more satisfying and way more consistent.
@andrewraebig9271
@andrewraebig9271 Жыл бұрын
I’m heaps glad a review like this exists from a source I can trust. This is exactly what I was looking for earlier this year when I started seriously sleeving M:tG and other cards. Thank you, and nice work!
@colinmiller513
@colinmiller513 Жыл бұрын
I have only used Dragon Shields for the past six years, but your video has given me the motivation to buy a box of Katanas to try them out!
@harrisonhill9926
@harrisonhill9926 Жыл бұрын
Try out Katanas! You’ll love them. The only Dragon Shields I still buy are art sleeves.
@ryanelam2554
@ryanelam2554 Жыл бұрын
I used to always love dragon shields. But they have been splitting lately and the katanas are just fantastic. They feel better, they fit better and they shuffle better. They just need to sort out the supply of current colours and add more.
@henrymoxley5114
@henrymoxley5114 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t expecting sleeve shuffle with light breathing amsr but I didn’t hate it. Love the review as always.
@rollinsgi
@rollinsgi Жыл бұрын
+1 on Katana sleeves shuffle feel. So smooth, and a delight to shuffle.
@swsgaming4878
@swsgaming4878 Жыл бұрын
I personally like the Eclipse Matte sleeves. They feel better for play and provide great protection. I had foils in binders that don't have any scratches after years of storage
@emilymcpherson6564
@emilymcpherson6564 Жыл бұрын
same, they're EASILY my go to
@truegamerking
@truegamerking Жыл бұрын
I bought one pack of eclipse, and they split immediately. Almost half didn't even survive one game's worth of shuffling. I kept hearing how good they were but my first pack left a horrible taste in my mouth. I've never gone back, but maybe I could be convinced to try again some day.
@swsgaming4878
@swsgaming4878 Жыл бұрын
I can see how that would leave a sour taste in anyone's mouth. I cant even break the ones I have trying to pull them apart.@@truegamerking
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI Жыл бұрын
While I don't like how they do dull the colors of most cards, as a foil hater I actually do like how they present foil - it dulls it, yes, but it creates a sort of weird effect that's more subtle than normal, but still noticeable. Especially for egregiously bright foils it balances it out way better.
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI Жыл бұрын
@@truegamerking - Wow, I've never seen that happen, and Eclipse has been more or less my go-to for a while. There was a while (about when they released the glossy front version) where quality control went down the gutter like prof mentioned (the big issue I noticed was the bottom seam was often way off, so like 1-2mm of sleeve space at the bottom was crimped, which made cards not fit (especially if double sleeved)). If you got ones that split, it might have been from that time period.
@Pallabon1
@Pallabon1 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to the prof shuffling cards for 10 minutes, like an ASMR video. The Cortex' as well as Dragonshield and Eclipse sounded really nice to relax to (I wouldn't want my sleeves to sound like the Cortex', but as an ASMR option it's quite a nice contrast to the other 2). Really really calming.
@slumdutchmillionare
@slumdutchmillionare Жыл бұрын
For me, Dragon Shields have been wildly inconsistent and Katanas are impossible to find at LGS.
@impro2454
@impro2454 Жыл бұрын
That's stinks. I definitely prefer katanas, and maybe it's a region thing, but I can find them at most of my local shops!
@tsarblandi
@tsarblandi Жыл бұрын
I always struggle too; they do stock them but they sell out before I get there. Now if I see any, regardless of colour, I buy them just in case
@Skyfysh
@Skyfysh Жыл бұрын
I double sleeve every deck I have, and have found it almost impossible to do with Katanas. But you’re right, a box of DS sleeves I bought recently were more difficult to double sleeve than Katanas.
@link4585
@link4585 Жыл бұрын
my local has like 50 of them.
@Sakkyun
@Sakkyun Жыл бұрын
Agreed, had 2 packs of black ds mattes that tear at the seams easily
@DreamDaddie
@DreamDaddie Жыл бұрын
For my more expensive decks I use Dragon Shield Matte Sleeves with Game Genic thick inner sleeves in an Ultimate Guard 133 deck box. For my lower priced but favorite decks Katana sleeves, Dragon Shield inners and an Ultimate Guard Boulders. Dragon Shield Mattes would have to be my personal favorites
@marjoramme
@marjoramme Жыл бұрын
I stopped using Dragon Shield sleeves a few months ago after I got my third box of mattes that only contained 95-97 sleeves. I wouldn't have been too annoyed if they hadn't raised the price and if my customer service experience with them wasn't so bad. That being said, I'm still super excited to see what the conclusions from this video are going to be :)
@BusinessSkrub
@BusinessSkrub Жыл бұрын
Well that explains where the extras are coming from every time I buy a box that has 102 sleeves lmao
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI Жыл бұрын
@@BusinessSkrub - Marjoramme's Commanders were left in the cold so your Companions could have proper matching sleeves.
@AlexA-vd7li
@AlexA-vd7li Жыл бұрын
​@@BusinessSkrubMy recent and best yet result with DS is a six extra sleeves in a pack, thought that its their feature. :)
@squish5871
@squish5871 6 ай бұрын
I haven't played magic in maybe 5 years but I have two decks with classic dragon Shields. They were a lot smaller back than I remember I bought them because you just couldn't even split them with force in your stretch test. See how they just peel apart literally made my jaw drop it's wild to see how ultra pro turned the tables
@pk0a0gundam
@pk0a0gundam Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update on this! It's easy to forget that even in brands with a long life that quality can rise and fall.
@danielfrazier5586
@danielfrazier5586 Жыл бұрын
I ran out of Dragon Shield boxes and picked up some Katanas to sleeve up a couple decks and honestly fell in love with them.
@retronymph
@retronymph Жыл бұрын
Personally, having used Katanas and DS a good amount, Katanas stand head and shoulders above the rest. That smooth shuffle feel is just unreal.
@alexanderrudavka700
@alexanderrudavka700 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 1000+ pack of Katana sleeves they are THAT good, specifically because of how easy it is to shuffle - and you shuffle a lot. But at the same time I totally agree that they get dirty after couple of game nights and the shuffle quality diminishes because of that :c
@AVLIX-105
@AVLIX-105 6 ай бұрын
Wash your hands :)
@FelinGreenleaf
@FelinGreenleaf Жыл бұрын
Good to know they fixed the QC issues, a set of the classic bronzes and dual matte snows kept splitting on me Having played since like 97-98 watching the Ultra Pro glow-up has been honestly great Also fun to see prof doing product tests again!
@zacharydobbs5334
@zacharydobbs5334 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie…I ripped the audio from the shuffling comparison portion of his video, put it on a loop, and am going to sleep to it tonight. Thank you, Prof, for providing what the community really needs. Some good ol shufflin ASMR
@kcrad1527
@kcrad1527 Жыл бұрын
Neat detail: there are some online retailers like amazon that carry holographic sleeves that are usually labelled as Kpop photo sleeves. They fit american card game dimensions as well, however. Good hunting!
@Churchtwinblades
@Churchtwinblades Жыл бұрын
I started using Katanas for the L5R LCG and I've never gone back to any other sleeves. They've always been high quality and I adore them.
@lowlyspy
@lowlyspy Жыл бұрын
Aww man, wake up and see a 17 minute video where Prof talks sleeves? This gonna be a good day. Thank you for your work Prof. In a scary, uncertain world, you are a ray of sunshine that gives me hope.
@PsychoEditor
@PsychoEditor Жыл бұрын
100
@laynegrey2003
@laynegrey2003 Жыл бұрын
As an Eclipse enjoyer, I feel vindicated lmao. I love these sleeves, they just feel so good to shuffle compared to DS for me.
@MrBlackbergk
@MrBlackbergk Жыл бұрын
The eclipse sleeves are 8.99 at my lgs for 100
@Schmaglow
@Schmaglow Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I have is that I buy matte sleeves because they're just that... matte. DS matte sleeves are matte backed but not on the front so you still get the terrible shuffle AND you can't hardly see your cards because of the glare. UP Eclipse Matte will always be my goto until DS can fix the biggest issue of their matte sleeves (that they're not actually matte).
@tonyw1983
@tonyw1983 Жыл бұрын
i do like Eclipse. they are fantastic. Unless they changed their formula, foils dont look great in them. You'd probably like Katanas.
@laynegrey2003
@laynegrey2003 Жыл бұрын
@@tonyw1983 Katanas are alright, shuffle feel is less good for me though. I have my new Ziatora deck in Katanas, shuffling it rn actually lmao, and I do still like Eclipse shuffle feel just a bit more I think. But I will agree after comparing foils in my Katana and Eclipse that the Katanas are vastly better looking with that tbh. I never realized how dull my Angelic Skirmisher looked in the Eclipse sleeve she's in lmfao
@HyperHowie56
@HyperHowie56 Жыл бұрын
I bought a bunch of eclipse sleeves last fall for my Jumpstart decks. I love their shuffle feel! However I ended up returning them all to UP do to quality issues. They had what I would describe as plastic splatters on tons of them. Some were very minor and a few had major blobs. Anyone else experience this?
@Hexatomb
@Hexatomb Жыл бұрын
I bought 15k KMC inners and outers in the same color when I got back into magic. Every deck I have has cards that are completely interchangeable as needed and I've never had a problem with either. I'd even say I prefer the inners to others as they have minimal seems.
@Bongus_Bubogus
@Bongus_Bubogus Жыл бұрын
If you ever drop you collection or a couple of decks (e.g. a table fails)…I wish you good luck. Unless they are black sleeves. If you are using exclusively black sleeves, I’m judging you.
@Hexatomb
@Hexatomb Жыл бұрын
@@Bongus_Bubogus lol, that'd be an issue but thankfully moxfield has all my decks so I could rebuild them all in the unlikely event all of them were unboxed and laying out for some reason. My collection is mostly unsleeved, sorted in my closet. And yes, all black :)
@Bongus_Bubogus
@Bongus_Bubogus Жыл бұрын
@@Hexatomb may a Dimir player unintentionally steal half of your deck cleaning up after games you uninspiring conformist monster. Nice choice on inner sleeves though, KMC inners just perfect.
@druidobianco9734
@druidobianco9734 5 ай бұрын
I used to do the same thing, i had 12 decks all in black kmc inner-outer to interchange cards. The problem started showing after 6 months/a year because in the same deck the cards had sleeves with uneaven wear&tear, especially the upper border becoming a bit undulated, so unfortunately it didn’t work for me…
@WeizDLC
@WeizDLC Ай бұрын
Professor. Thank you. Love your objectivity. Whenever I am ready to expand my game, I trust your analysis first. Keep up the great work of trying to safeguard our community. Gunalchéesh (Tlingit for thank you)
@saint3614
@saint3614 Жыл бұрын
It's the Ultimate Guard Katanas for me- That shuffle feel is without equal.
@TabbyLavalamp
@TabbyLavalamp Жыл бұрын
Dragon Shield matte clear sleeves are excellent for Lorcana. The foils show nicely and when the best looking card back in the business is used for a game resource, it looks great in your inkwell.
@TabbyLavalamp
@TabbyLavalamp Жыл бұрын
@@DMBlade4 Oh no. I've been shamed out of playing a fun game by some random weirdo in the KZbin comments.
@SquareViking
@SquareViking Жыл бұрын
I'll be a Dragon Shield man until the day I die - mainly because they're amazing and have great art, but also because it's a Danish brand. Gotta support locally.
@baconboy1547
@baconboy1547 Жыл бұрын
YAY! Product review!! I miss these so much!
@someguy4331
@someguy4331 Жыл бұрын
i appreciate this as i've just been working on constructing a couple of decks, including putting a bit more into my dragon deck, so this knowledge is great to have. also, i love the posting board in the corner there. xD
@nilocmirror
@nilocmirror Жыл бұрын
Ultra Pro Eclipse are my go too sleeves. They shuffle really well and feel great in the hand.
@OverAnalytical7
@OverAnalytical7 9 ай бұрын
Shuffling in a nutshell: Dragon Shield Mattes: Solid shuffle UP Eclipes: Smooth Ultimate Guard Cortices: Is someone eating chips? Ultimate Guard Katanas: Super pleasant
@lordwhatshisname3408
@lordwhatshisname3408 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if its just been a minute since I purchased Dragon Shield sleves, but I never had any issues with them. The older matte ones start to feel a bit rough after a while sure, but the dual mattes have always been good to me. Out of the several thousand sleeves from them Ive purchased, only 1 total has broken on me. Im still very impressed with them to this day.
@gremblorthesackgoblin7953
@gremblorthesackgoblin7953 Жыл бұрын
If you havent bought them from the end of last year to the about midpoint of this year, youre good. They had a reall bad batch that makes me nervous that the box of Valor I just got might be a lemon
@folkenphoenix
@folkenphoenix Жыл бұрын
My experience is satisfactory as well, none has broken and the feel is awesome
@FFandMTG
@FFandMTG Жыл бұрын
10:26 Love getting to hear and see shuffling! Great video!!!!
@ahhhanime10
@ahhhanime10 Жыл бұрын
Dragon shield has my whole heart. I'm obsessed with the selection of colors and adore the fun artworks. I'm as much a collector of the artworks as I am a collector of cards. I've never had an issue with the sleeves. I will say that katana is buttery smooth to shuffle. I just like having the fun art and the ability to get custom sleeves made is the best!!
@antoniodittman5820
@antoniodittman5820 Жыл бұрын
I like the way you stretch them out first, probably makes double sleeving a lot easier
@Tyndan
@Tyndan Жыл бұрын
I exclusively use Katana's for the shuffle feel, but I have run into size inconsistency. They can be tight when double sleeving. I keep an inner-sleeved, over-sized card from a commander precon handy in case I need to stretch them out a bit.
@jibb8545
@jibb8545 Жыл бұрын
That's a good tip. I usually shove 3 lands in
@ckSage
@ckSage Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos so much. Especially the product reviews like this one. Always top quality and consistent just like Katanas. Thank you.
@keeganbeecher5199
@keeganbeecher5199 Жыл бұрын
Omg it's been so long since a sleeve review.
@residentracist3210
@residentracist3210 Жыл бұрын
For real
@thierrysterckeman8227
@thierrysterckeman8227 Жыл бұрын
I just want to add that I've had a hard time double sleeving with Katana sleeves. They were too tight around the perfect fits and the card would slide out while sleeving. The perfect fits would stick ut in some cases. Otherwise they are great sleeves, I use them when single sleeving when I play limited.
@AENock
@AENock Жыл бұрын
I've gone to Katanas. The last six Dragon Shield mattes I have purchased this year have completely fallen apart. I received refunds for three of them but it was too much of a hassle to continue that rigmarole.
@filipnassen9076
@filipnassen9076 Жыл бұрын
The only Dragon Shield I’ve had problems with was their white ones. There’s something about white sleeves in general that just keeps fucking up for me, Dragon Shield or Ultra Pro. I just never buy white sleeves anymore.
@adamwarehime6444
@adamwarehime6444 Жыл бұрын
My lgs have katanas in stock all the time they are starting to stop selling dragon shields an I'm happy about it
@filipnassen9076
@filipnassen9076 Жыл бұрын
@@adamwarehime6444 Sweet! Where is that?
@Onattamato
@Onattamato Жыл бұрын
I really do enjoy the GameGenic Prime Mattes as my budget sleeves. They take a couple games to not be soo slippery, but once they're broken in they work great.
@pytawidmo
@pytawidmo Жыл бұрын
Just bought some packs of KMC Hyper Mats, made in Japan. Best sleeves IMO. If only they would do 100 sleeves per pack and not 80.
@sleevejobskmc
@sleevejobskmc Жыл бұрын
Hi! I’m actually the owner of KMC USA. We have 100ct packs! Japan only sells them through us in the US since Commander is not popular in Japan.
@ssjayy-xs5lh
@ssjayy-xs5lh Жыл бұрын
Just got back from Japan and bought so much of it! Bought mine at 528 yen after tax for every pack of 80. They're less than half the price of DS's after conversion too. Dragon Shield is roughly $60 for 400 sleeves while KMC is nearly $30 for 400 sleeves.
@druidobianco9734
@druidobianco9734 5 ай бұрын
I agree, they are the best
@danzig8985
@danzig8985 Жыл бұрын
Dragon Shield Classics will always be the best, then Katana's are right up there too. Love them both. Seems like every other matte that I buy don't shuffle to the standard that dragon shield is known for.
@lucasrios2089
@lucasrios2089 Жыл бұрын
I for one only use Dragon Shield Mattes. I tried the matte duals and got a bad batch, but tried again twice since and had a great experience as expected.
@jonathanfagerlund976
@jonathanfagerlund976 Жыл бұрын
Same. One bad pack, but the rest have been super. I do have Katanas on one deck at the recommendation of a friend. They feel...interesting...when shuffling. Not bad, just interesting.
@counsellour
@counsellour Жыл бұрын
Wowie! Wow. wow! Are we back in 2015?!?! I cannot remember the last time you did a sleeves quality video.
@Mushroomhaus0001
@Mushroomhaus0001 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE Ultimate Guard Katanas. They really do feel and shuffle the best. But I'm one of those people who can't stand how close it sits to the edge, and the color options of Dragon Shield can't be beat. Unfortunately I stick to DS due to that, but I have a few decks sleeved in Katanas and the shuffling is sooooo nice. I wish that Katanas would have more colors and additional space at the top, or DS nails the Katana shuffle feel. Katanas feel so good.
@Rucka_Inc.
@Rucka_Inc. Ай бұрын
I have ultra pro from 2009 that I still use. The durability of the older makes is incredible. Idk how they are now because I have never needed to buy new sleeves since 15 years ago lol
@edwardhock6940
@edwardhock6940 Жыл бұрын
Missing the KMC Hyper Phoenixes here. Best sleeves I've ever used.
@Kamphamster
@Kamphamster Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a review of those aswell.. I have only heard good things!
@ccggenius
@ccggenius Жыл бұрын
Honestly, my top pick is Dragon Shield Classics. Yeah, they're slippery as heck when you bust out a fresh pack, but after you break them in they just glide.
@obadijahparks
@obadijahparks Жыл бұрын
I prefer kmc perfect hard inner sleeves. The only I've ever found truelly adequate. The dragonshield outer sleeves work really well. The sleeves I got through kickstarter from cubeamajigs came out really well. My only gripe with them is the weird smell they always have.
@drew8235
@drew8235 10 ай бұрын
I've had some very minor inconcistencies with a few Dragon Shield packs, but it's not been even remotely bad enough to make me want to switch. Nothing else compares to them.
@pUREsTORM9267
@pUREsTORM9267 Жыл бұрын
The prof's issue with shuffle-ability of the Cortex sleeves is curious, I bought a pack recently and I found the shuffle feel very smooth. Clearly there's some issues with the consistency from batch to batch.
@JustInBasil
@JustInBasil Жыл бұрын
I've found a world of difference in shuffle feel when you compare glossy Cortex sleeves vs. the mattes. The mattes have an abysmal shuffle feel, but the glossy sleeves are pretty good.
@skylerbrooks4082
@skylerbrooks4082 Жыл бұрын
Katanas are my absolute favorite sleeve, they feel really good they're the smoother shuffle I've ever felt and they are tough
@ryandmckenzie
@ryandmckenzie Жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying the eclipse pro. Such a nice shuffle feel.
@lykun_
@lykun_ Жыл бұрын
id argue the true budget option is whatever the best option is. the price difference between budget and best is so little that you'd save more in your sleeves lasting longer and not replacing as often, than you'd save simply buying cheap. maybe on a vacation or trip to an event where you brought a limited budget to work with and need sleeves on the fly, those budget options are valid. Otherwise, I feel the price difference is too little to bother with the quality difference of "budget" options.
@ZenaphobeZerj
@ZenaphobeZerj Жыл бұрын
Always a fan of a prof sleeve review!
@zacktheprogamer7999
@zacktheprogamer7999 Жыл бұрын
I never used katana's until i heard your review and i got to say, i personally give them a 8/10 in my rating. The only sleeves that ever got a 10/10 was old eclipse sleeves so the katana's are better than the now eclipse sleeves that are a 7/10 for me. The only 2 major issues for me personally about tbe katana's that i notice for me personally is that the edges of the sleeves are sharper than eclipse sleeves so they hurt my hand while shuffling (had to change how i shuffle to use them in a nice way). The only true gripe i have with them is that oil does stick very easily or shows very easily on the katana's, yes i wash my hands everytime before i sleeve or even touch my cards. Maybe i just have very oily hands in general but that still doesnt take away from the fact that both dragonshields and eclipse sleeves that are glossy never did that for me. Besides that, the sleeves are basisically perfect like what the doctor said.
@king_eternal
@king_eternal Жыл бұрын
I just wanna start off by saying, 23 commander decks later, even if there is a product that can defeat Dragon Shield's Matte sleeves I am too OCD to sleeve 1 deck with them and too poor to buy 24 packs. These companies had their chance in 2015 for a life customer lol
@irregularassassin6380
@irregularassassin6380 Жыл бұрын
Back when I was foolish and young I only ever played with penny sleeves. God that was such a pain.
@Sinistra359
@Sinistra359 Жыл бұрын
My go to has always been dragon shields, especially the new dual mattes. But recently I've had many dual mattes sleeves with poor quality. Splitting at the seams, one pack I had the bottom of the sleeves split as well.
@EntertainmentHang
@EntertainmentHang Жыл бұрын
PRODUCT REVIEW TIME BAYBEE! I just always love these and they're appreciated.
@R3DR01D
@R3DR01D Жыл бұрын
KMC mattes. My Dragonshield supplier sent me a pack to try out, and they were pretty good. I am actually considering using them instead of Dragonshields.
@druidobianco9734
@druidobianco9734 5 ай бұрын
I started with dragonshield (the original glossy ones, many years ago) but after tryng kmc there was no turning back
@NikOutchcunis
@NikOutchcunis Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Super informative, can't wait to get some Katanas. Didn't realize they were that much better than Cortex (What I have all of my cards sleeved in currently🤦‍♂)
@GmanTheTank
@GmanTheTank Жыл бұрын
Katana sleeves are so great for shuffling, especially Commander decks. I have been trying out the Cortex sleeves lately and they seem fine, not sure about long term durability yet.
@TheBeemith
@TheBeemith Жыл бұрын
I've been really enjoying the katana sleeves
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 Жыл бұрын
They are great at first then get extremely hard to shuffle . Stopped using them
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