CAN- Aumgn (REACTION//DISCUSSION)

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Song Link: • Can - Aumgn

[@pauldenby878]

I love this - and it's ilk.. it's music to lose yourself in.. meditation music. On the first few listens, I probably felt the same way as you. But this type of soundscape just grew and grew for me. Hammill created a similar track (Magog) on In Camera. Otherworldly, odd, unfamiliar, Magog and Augmn seem to me to be places which just exist (for no reason, other than they are there).

[@pentagrammaton6793]

Yeah you get it.

[@kenl2091]

Yup. Very Magog, but not as interesting. The other piece that comes to mind is Sysyphus by Pink Floyd. Magog is generally well regarded but Sysyphus not. The latter has more of a 'tune' but the former has interesting 'vocals'. This piece has neither and probably works well as a soundtrack for a movie but fails to grab me as a listening experience.

[@Rowenband]

Yes I see exactly what you mean, although Magog comes in as a follower from Gog. Hammill did more weird soundscapes on Loops and reels.

[@pauldenby878]

@@Rowenband Loops and Reels is fantastic, one of my favourite PH albums

[@jerkedevries]

O please don’t stop experimenting in music! This was very entertaining. I listened the whole piece. It’s nice for my ears. The sounds of the stringed instruments and the chanting. It’s the sounds themselves. The stringed sounds remind me of an experimental piece by talktalk which has the name of the time it lasts, say 5:49 or something: just making sounds. It also reminds of some pieces of Dream Logic by Eivind Aarset: category experimental jazz. Thanks for this new music for me 🙂🙂

[@TRANZEURO]

Aumgn my god I can't believe you're reacting to this track.

[@lemming9984]

Me neither, he'd be better off reacting to crockery falling down the stairs!

[@donlebo6824]

I used to work graveyard, cleaning restaurants, and sometimes the managers would be working long into the night, I'd have this track playing and you could hear the moans echo through the place, creeping the managers out. Good fun!

[@manhattenman6075]

After this album you should do Future Days which is my favourite CAN record and probably they’re most progressive

[@pentagrammaton6793]

@@Katehowe3010 yeah that's my fav. too.

[@ZalMoxis]

Tago Mago is a flow of consciousness

[@JustJP]

Definitely a flow lol

[@AriadneJC]

I love that, back in the vinyl days, this took up a whole side! Why do I not hate it? I can't say why exactly. It's just an interesting collection of sounds running into each other over a very long time. I remember disliking it the very first time I heard it, but that's because I'd been revved up by the preceding tracks and wanted more. But as a piece by itself? Yeah... it's got an interesting interplay of sounds that you can let that part of your mind grab hold of while the rest of your brain does something else. Or nothing else, too.

[@-davidolivares]

Why do I not hate it, let me count the ways…

[@paulhine1061]

I like this. Don't listen to it that often these days but it's still absorbing and challenging.

[@colef6855]

I like the atmosphere and creativity of the soundscape. i exactly don't listen to this one all the time on its own but I like it as part of the whole album and its not like anything else I've heard. It's also good Halloween music I'm interested to know what you'll think of Peking O lol

[@rcengineer]

I think the coolest thing about this track is honestly the fact that it could to some extent be considered dark ambient, but done entirely via analog instrumentation.

[@masterpeace8539]

Now that's a real Krautrock craze! :)

[@frankj10000]

Based on your reaction to this song I would suggest you listen to Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" double lp. 😁

[@lemming9984]

eerrrrrr!

[@richg0404]

Don't do it Justin ! LOL

[@frankj10000]

@@richg0404 I imagine it would be the shortest album reaction ever.

[@Hartlor_Tayley]

We used a lot of this to compile a music tape for a kids haunted house on Halloween. It’s good and it sucks. It’s Can so your going to get a bit of this. Thanks JP

[@JustJP]

This would definitely fit well for Halloween

[@soundsfromthewestcoast9939]

Absolutely brilliant piece - one just to lose yourself in. I can honestly say that this is 1m times better than the average formulaic pop pap that has been in the charts the last 30 years - now that is music that leaves you feeling absolutely nothing! But granted a difficult listen and not for everyone. 😊

[@gelsol]

It's Can, what's not to like? Drums are massive at the end.

[@diegosebastian2226]

This track (the whole album, in fact) really comes to life on psychedelics. 'Aumgn' on a few tabs of LSD while do things to you, amazing things, that you didn't think possible. Brilliant, brilliant album start to finish - one of the best ever. If you can't even fathom being in a setting where you'd listen to this, that seems to be more of an issue with you and not the music itself. Perhaps a lack of imagination, perhaps an inability to let go and lose yourself.

[@airwindows]

Saucerful of Secrets, but in German and without relief :)

[@richg0404]

My thought too. I don't mind sitting through Saucerful of Secrets but didn't care for this. I can certainly see the similarities though.

[@TRANZEURO]

Can't wait for you to do 'Peking O'.

[@paulhine1061]

Poor chap, it's a long old haul through Aumgn and Peking-O to Bring Me Coffee Or Tea 😀

[@sylvaindupuis5595]

I'm totally with you on that, a waste of time!

[@cosmiccat6708]

I pressed the like button only for the reason that you deserved company for this one. I stayed throughout, also out of curiosity. I knew Can existed, back in the day, but I never got around to listening to them, till now. I just googled this album to find out it's release date, why?, well, there is another German band called Faust, who released an album in 1973, called "The Faust Tapes". Since Can released this in 1971, I have to assume, though I may be wrong, that Faust were influenced by them, though "The Faust Tapes" is their third album and the only one I've heard tbt, so they may just be of a similar ilk. Whatever, I found this particular piece OK, for a soundtrack to a surreal movie about someone being chased by something! lol. I read the comments though and they say it's an OM chant. OK, fair enough. I don't dislike them, I liked the previous tracks you played. "The Faust Tapes", is an interesting piece of work. It's experimental and has elements of jazz in there. However, the difference is, is that the individual tracks don't outstay their welcome. A lot are just 50 secs, 1.20 secs, 3.15 secs to, at most 10 mins long. You wouldn't be praying for them to be over [well, you might, lol]. Point is I would love to see your reaction to it. Lastly, I don't think you'll let one piece put you off this band. We can't like everything a band puts out can we? An enjoyable reaction. Your face was a picture, ha ha. UPDATE: Hey Justin, just listened to that Faust album, after not hearing it for YEARS and...don't bother, LOL. I was young and it was cool then but I've a feeling you'll react the same as the Can track and I couldn't do that to you! You could try it in your own time if you're curious but I don't think it's reaction worthy. Just trying to save you time here. Sorry about that. Tastes change when you get older! Ha ha. Cheers.

[@davidgeorge6818]

I didn't like this either (& I'm a big Can fan) - only 2nd (or possibly 1st time hearing it). Faust Tapes is an interesting choice & I think JP would like it but I'd go for something shorter like... um, Krautrock, Jennifer or Meer(?) Faust are prob my 2nd fav Krautrock band after Popol Vuh (my 'reaction-friendly' choice would be Wo bist Du.. ) More esoteric suggestions: Dorian Dervishes by Peter Michael Hamel, Sowiesoso by Cluster, Burning Bar by T. Dream.

[@Ninang363]

Next step Acid Mothers Temple Soul Collective or Sun Ra!

[@KNALLisgettinfamos]

The title of this song is a kind of warning (Aumgn comes from Crowley!). It wasn't created to be liked, but to show you your dark side. This shows that Schmidt and Czukay were students of Karl Heinz Stockhausen. In general, it was very courageous at the time, to put something like that on a record.

[@Koiranpaeinen]

The manic rhythm, the meditative quality, the noise, that's what I like about it. Admittedly, it's definitely not for everyone. I'm the kind of guy who finds music in the sounds of clunking washing machines and other such objects and could listen to those for minutes on end as it feels meditative and comforting, often even better than music that's been "composed". Aumgn walks on the fine line of being composed and just... existing. Which makes it fascinating for me. And I like being pushed to the edge and then, perhaps, thrown all the way down the cliff, as I sometimes feel that music should be something that really makes me question everything. I don't mean to sound pretentious but that's the best I could come up with. Maybe the reason I can like these kind of sounds with ease is neurological, maybe it's about getting used to things, maybe both, I don't know? And I definitely don't mean to pooh-pooh on anyone's taste in music or sound elitist, as I know that Aumgn is not for everyone and for a good reason. But, as Tago Mago is one of my favorite albums of all time, this is, for me, kind of the piece that "makes" the album. It fits the context very well and is a sort of a tease I think. The first vinyl is "easy" listening, the second one is "crazy" listening. I don't like some prog and psych bands other people love (one of the big exceptions is King Crimson which is more on the experimental side to my ears) even though I can understand that love. Their music just sounds too "clean" to me. Tago Mago sounds dirty and frankly quite unique and it's the thing that kind of draws me into it.

[@richg0404]

When I saw this pop up on my daily feed I said to myself "I don't think so" so I didn't listen. Here I am a week later and I am looking for something to watch/listening to and I figured "why not?" I listened to about 7 minutes before I skipped to Justin's review. I listen to all different types of music and I know that a lot of people wouldn't enjoy some of the music I listen to. I CAN see myself listening to and not disliking this. In the right frame of mind and the right mood I can see it. I know that some of the early Pink Floyd stuff isn't far from this and I like that. I applaud Justin for being open minded enough to listen and honest enough to tell us he hated this. Not all music is for everyone. Thumbs up to those of you who love this. Enjoy!

[@dontshredonme]

Some info I've gathered about this track over the years and after reading the Can bio "All Gates Open": 1) it's Irmin Schmidt (not Damo Suzuki) doing the creepy vocals, while miked from within a coffin in the recording studio. 2) "Aumgn" was Aleister Crowley's ritual adaptation of the Buddhist chant "Om". Can acknowledges dabbling in unspecified black magic rituals during the recording of Tago Mago. This was something that Irmin Schmidt convinced the rest of the band to go along with, although Michael Karoli was strongly against the idea but he was outvoted by the other members. Can were not actually occultists, but wanted to see how the rituals would affect the recording process of this one album. 3) The barking dogs near the end of the track were edited from another session where Karoli and Suzuki were working on a very delicate, quiet improvisation that Schmidt was monitoring from outside the studio. To add an element of chaos Schmidt suddenly entered the room with the dogs and smashed a chair on the floor, greatly annoying the other two. 4) While the avant-garde composer Karlheinz Stockhausen, who had been Czukay and Schmidt's mentor, was a guest on a German public radio broadcast, the DJ played him several tracks by contemporary pop artists without telling him who the artists were. Stockhausen hated all the tracks except Aumgn, which he made the DJ play again while he analyzed the compositional elements of the track. After it was revealed that the artist was Can, Stockhausen exclaimed proudly, "Of course it's brilliant, they were my pupils!". Personally I don't think the track stands alone very well, and don't blame you for your reaction to it. I kind of felt the same way upon hearing it initially, but it fits very well into the overall flow of the album, which is more than I can say about The Beatles' "Revolution No. 9". And I'd rather listen to it 10 times in a row than listen to the last 2 sides of "The Wall". Your listening patience is commendable though

[@hoinkinator]

Your initial reaction was the same as mine. Which is what is this? The first 10-11 minutes are pure experimentation. The piecing together a lot of clips from other songs on the album. What I do like about the song is the last 6 minutes when the percussions come in. I think the drumming is top notch, very tribal sounding, the slow build of the synthesizer then slowly reducing. I will often skip to the last 6 minutes. Reviewing this song would be similar to reviewing The Beatles 'Revolution #9'. Not my favorite song, but it is Can.

[@edgeofnow]

Ground breaking music! Check out Future Days and Soon Over Babaluma as well.

[@richg0404]

I disliked the song JP just listened to BUT I am listening to "Soon Over Babaluma" right now. It sounds more promising.

[@martinduner1844]

I love this! A true sonic meditation!

[@parshakamarsh]

Well, there's 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back again 😖

[@reneelyons6836]

hahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!! That could be a haunted house soundtrack.

[@RayRay-ot5xd]

I see this as a soundtrack for the space scenes for 2001 A Space Odyssey. A ‘listen once and don’t have to again’ track.

[@BaldJean]

We actually like this one. "Aumgn" is actually the "full version" of "Om", a syllable that is used for meditation. And that's exactly what this is about. The track has a lot in common with the Amon Düül 2 track "The Marilyn Monroe Memorial Church" from their album "Tanz der Lemminge". Both albums came out in 1971 and were double albums, both tracks fill the whole side 3 and are of about equal length (the Amon Düül 2 track is exactly 18 minutes long), both are very abstract free form improvisations, and both have a part where the drums come in prominently. You may have noticed we had been absent for a while; that's because we just recorded a new album with our band "Bald Angels", a five women band consisting of us, our daughters Alice and Dorothy and Jeanine's sister Beatrice. As usual with us the album was recorded live in the studio. Only 500 copies will be made (this is usual as well) which we will sell at our restaurant. The album will have the title "An Invisible Man Is Also Blind" (which is true, by the way).

[@paulhine1061]

I love "The Marilyn Monroe Memorial Church", it's very ethereal. It has more musical content than Aumgn but I get the abstract free form improvisation comparison.

[@emdiar6588]

I'm waiting for the day Justin does a "side long song reaction" to Popol Vuh's "Brüder des Schattens - Söhne des Lichts". What a Kraut Rock masterpiece that is!!! He should maybe wait for Halloween though.

[@pentagrammaton6793]

Tanz der Lemminge is one intense album.

[@JustJP]

Awesome! Hope the recording has gone well

[@IllumeEltanin]

@@emdiar6588 Interesting! I just recommended Popol Vuh to Justin via Twitter this week. But, I'm honestly mostly unfamiliar with them; I've only heard one track so far. But, I would love to delve deeper along with Justin. They had a sound I would not have associated with Krautrock, if the person I heard it from hadn't introduced them as such.

[@Juan-wo7zu]

This piece is bizarre but I love it. So creepy but at the same time meditative

[@elfpower8300]

The most psychedelic,immersive music,meant to shake you to your core ; and also a total Rite of Spring event.Primitive soul.You may use it to help process yr emotions,the ones that can’t be rationalized.Pure magic,best reserved for very special occasions.An exorcism of sorts.This is what people can sound like when there’s no one else in the parking garage. Not that yr reaction isnt totally valid.But if it hits you the right way,it’s medecine.

[@pentagrammaton6793]

People who hate this are missing the point: it's meant to be hated, and as such works perfectly. It's pure psychedelic Krautrock experimentalism, and like the world itself, it is often horrible.

[@pentagrammaton6793]

Btw, even though I love this track, I'm not going to listen to it again, because I also hate it.

[@a.k.1740]

I don't hate it nor I don't like it. Just that I find it boring, pretentious and useless.

[@pentagrammaton6793]

@@a.k.1740 I don't see how you can find it pretentious, given that it lacks all traces of pretention and is simply a mad, formless storm of noises.

[@paulhine1061]

@@a.k.1740 Seeing as it has polarised reactions I don't think it can be described as useless but more power to expressing your opinion.

[@a.k.1740]

@@pentagrammaton6793 Precisely, this kind of experimental stuff is pretentious in its intention to pass as art when it's just random noise !

[@blackcatcentralmusic]

LOL! I was waiting for this track to come up on your list. This is one of those improvisational sound collages that is difficult to listen to. It's not a track I just throw on. Similar to free jazz, I have to be prepared to enter this world. Late at night, lights out or dim, with a glass of wine :-) Yes, there are good ideas. I think Sun Ra probably did it better on albums like "Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy", "Atlantis", and "The Magic City". Others have pointed out that Pink Floyd and Peter Hammill did similar tracks but not as long. Yes with parts of "The Ancient". I don't like the track but I like some of the ideas and moods presented at various points. e g. The guitar on its own, the percussion. I think free improvisation and "free jazz" are dead ends if it goes on too long. Even John Coltrane expressed doubt about his free music in 1967. Perhaps it's a Western influence that we look for melody, harmonic content, and structure.

[@petermaurer7940]

On this track,Irmin Schmidt,the keyboard-player of Can,sings or speaks Aumgn,which is a part of a ritual fom Aleister Crowley. Can has always been into magic.But not black magic.All members of the group were interested in I Ging,Kabbala,Astrology,Tarot,etc. There were often some weird incidents when the group performed their music. Greetings from Germany from a big Can-Fan.

[@jerkedevries]

Wow Crowley! A wizard pur sang. I think Aarset also makes a ritual on a piece on Dream Logic

[@thelobsterking1055]

What kind of incidents? Please, tell me more!

[@petermaurer7940]

@@thelobsterking1055 Hi, As I wrote before,all members of Can were interested in Parapsychology and Magic.Also and especially in I Ging.For Example you can find I Ging-Symbols on the Can-Albums "Future Days" and "Flow Motion".Many Can-Fans described concerts from the band as some kind of unreal.Not every concert,but when they played very well together,there was some kind of magic and weirdness.More than from other bands. Vivien Goldmann from the english magazin Sounds,had an interview with Irmin Schmidt in 1975 in a hotel in London.She asked Irmin about his experiences with extrasensory experience.Apparantly Irmin didn't like the questions.When Vivien listened to the tape,her questions were clearly audible,but the answers from Irmin were some strange noises. Once Michael Karoli,the guitarist of the band,improvised in the Can-studio "Inner Space-Studio" with headphones on,directly onto the tape with pre-recorded material. Outside the studio a farmer was chopping wood exactly in the same rhythm as Michael played.Every time when Michael stopped playing,the farmer stopped irritated chopping wood.When Michael kept on playing,the farmer was chopping wood again,in exactly the same rhythm.He couldn't hear the guitar outside the studio. In 1974 Can had a rehearsal in an english studio for the TV-show "Old Grey Whistle Test".When they started playing,Jaki Liebezeit,the drummer of the band,noticed,that something was wrong with his drums.They stopped playing and exactly at the same time,the second hand of the clock in the studio stopped turning around.When the drums were repaired,Jaki gave the signal to the band to keep on playing.Just at the same moment,the second hand of the clock started turning around again.Nobody noticed this,but when they looked at the recorded video-tape,a camera-operator who saw this,was pale in his face and said:" You are really weird guys!" There are many other anecdotes when weird things happened,when Can was performing their music or when they were in private environment.Too many to mention. Hope I could help you.

[@thelobsterking1055]

@@petermaurer7940 Wow, I never heard any of that, thank you!

[@Cires789]

Love it. You could say proto-industrial.

[@cadanrichards2615]

17 minutes of AUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGNGNNNNNNNNN about 4 - 5 minutes in you looked nervous scared or just losing your mind

[@pentagrammaton6793]

Hahahahaha

[@JustJP]

I think losing my mind😅

[@galier2]

You should try Eroc 1. Some similar stuff but a little more fun (and also other strange things but all with a fun slant).

[@maruad7577]

I am not certain what to say. Sorry? You need a palate cleanser or two after that. I have some recommendations! edited to add that I listened to it all.

[@lemming9984]

As much as I love most of Can's music, this is just a case of "The Emperor's New Clothes". Complete tripe!

[@jamesleatherbarrow635]

I love this track - it's CAN doing horror. To me Halleluwah and Aumgn are the two central pillars that hold Tago Mago together. It's a soundscape, nightmarish and terrifying. My least favorite track on Tago Mago is the last one - Bring Me Coffee or Tea. For me that's the only track on the album that has no real character.

[@jaybird4093]

There was an artist who used to throw cans of paint into the exhaust of jets. The paint would splatter on the canvas and he would call it art. I thought it was rubbish. That’s what I think of this piece.

[@paulhine1061]

What a load of Jackson Pollock 😀

[@MissAstorDancer]

@@paulhine1061 LOL! Good one!

[@lemming9984]

The musical equivalent of Tracey Emin IMHO.

[@stevenlagoe7808]

Jaybird: I couldn't agree more. I think sometimes 'artists' can believe in themselves so much and become so abstract they disappear up their own backsides. This piece is a case in point.

[@paulhine1061]

@@stevenlagoe7808 I believe this track was only put on the album after their manager Hildegard Schmidt encouraged them to show the public that experimental side of the group, which doesn’t really indicate that they regarded it as work of art merely an experimental part of the journey they were on. Not my favourite Can piece by a long way but I’m glad it’s there to hear what sort of areas they would dive into.

[@patrickmasterson5420]

It's an aquired taste sometimes I love this stuff. Interestingly your going through Rattus Norvegicus and I'm enjoing your journey. Back to Tago Mago try listening to the whole album. You wont love it on the first listen, the drummer has better timing than an atomic clock.

[@dorocknroll]

🥰😍🤩❤❤❤❤

[@samstevenson5328]

You want a real trip? Listen to “Frankie Teardrop” by Suicide

[@blitztim6416]

And there you go. I’d like to see the sheet music. This reminds me of The Waiting Room from The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. But much longer and far less enjoyable.

[@lemming9984]

The Waiting Room actually did have a smidgeon of form or shape!

[@paulhine1061]

Fair comment. I like the randomness of it and it's willingness to totally disregard all musical form, plus some it has an ominous feeling about it. Your comment about it being like an art installation is about right though or maybe some bizarre film soundtrack.

[@palantir135]

Try the album Saw Delight by Can. Totally different but so good.

[@a.k.1740]

Me who doesn't usually like Can, I like Saw Delight almost completely, it's the exception to the rule ! "Animal Waves" is a great track.

[@-davidolivares]

It’s a Aumgmge… of sorts. Just what my mind needed, echoing throat singing, etc… It’s all there on the cover… My favorite, so far. Would I play it daily, weekly, monthly, probably not… it’s art to me. Not a paint spattered canvas but maybe a photo collage of juxtaposed images, most overlapping with no idea how it would turn out… just having fun. Remember when it was done. Done hear you all crying… Peace and jet engine Music

[@JustJP]

I'm glad you enjoyed David :D

[@maruad7577]

@@JustJP You are a good sport.

[@jaybird4093]

😂 Peace, David! ✈️

[@jaybird4093]

Speaking of jet engine music. I may have to listen to Back in USSR or Jet today!

[@-davidolivares]

@@jaybird4093 Almost didn’t make the reference but, I figured you’d understand. Jet beats prop, although the art might be interesting.

[@FloatingAnarchy61]

I really feel for you JP. I love Can, got all the studio albums, but Aumgn has never really done it for me. Peking O is another track on this album that's a 'challenging' listen as well, frankly it's absolutely terrifying, Damo sounds unhinged. I tend to skip those two when I listen to Tago Mago. I'm not sure whether you've reacted to Oh Yeah from this album, probably my favourite track. Probably my favourite album though is Future Days, especially the title track. Irmin Schmidt studied with the avant garde composer Stockhausen and it's this influence you find on Aumgn and Peking O. Also Can, like a lot of their krautrock contemporaries didn't want their music to be influenced by the blues tradition that most rock music at the time was based on.The style has elements of Musique Concre`te a sound that was characterised by tape manipulation techniques, probably one of the most well known examples is Revolution No 9 by the Beatles, some of Zappa's early stuff also. Faust were another band in the Krautrock genre who experimented with tape loops and sound manipulation. I feel exactly the same way about Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica. I love Beefheart, but in the 30 odd years I've owned it, I've probably only played it all the way through a handful of times. It's not I don't like that freeform avant garde style, the album that followed TMR, Lick My Decals Off Baby is in the same style, but seems more focused. I think with TMR sometimes, because it's always in classic album lists people are almost afraid to say they don't get it. But there's nothing wrong with experimentation if it's done well, two of my favourite Miles Davis albums are Live Evil and Dark Magus, they can seem a bit impenetrable at first, but once they click after a few listens you just 'get it', a feeling I've never managed with either Aumgn or Peking O. Another great album in this genre to react to would be Yeti by Amon Duul, that'll truly blow your mind. Also Neu, especially the first album, the track Hallogallo literally defines the motorik beat that characterised the krautrock genre.

[@twelvemonkeys8786]

Dude, your face at the end. Priceless... They took some bad LSD which made the band unable to make music 😂

[@JustJP]

😅

[@sphericalharmony1603]

I listened all the way through, which I haven't done with all the music on this channel. Can one call it music? Maybe its genre is sounds to listen to in a darkened room while half awake. Anyway, that comes nowhere near the bottom of my personal ranking of genres! I'll say no more. 😄

[@pentagrammaton6793]

Pure aural terror. 😀

[@pentagrammaton6793]

@@Katehowe3010 unsure lol

[@pentagrammaton6793]

It is what it is...

[@pentagrammaton6793]

@@Katehowe3010 yeah, hahaha

[@jackal59]

If you really want to go off the deep end of stuff like this, listen to the first Cluster album.

[@BrixtonTone]

"Art Exhibit, not one that I would visit ! " LMAO . Love your away from the mainstream choices JP. Any chance you might take a look at a mid 70's album from Terry Reid ? Haven't seen anybody react to this guys stuff. His "Seed of Memory" album for me is absolutely superb, almost a forgotten masterpiece. If you only have time for one or two tunes check out "The Frame" & "Fooling You" . Trust me, you wont be disappointed.

[@sylvanm4216]

Exhibit A for "Don't let art rockers record double albums" I had probably skipped this track every time I've put on this album for the past 20 years. I was surprised to remember that there are portions of it that are kind of fun. The first couple minutes are kind of cool, and then I actually like the big percussion freakout. But....boy is there a long, long run in the middle that just sucks.

[@MT-dq1td]

I like CAN as a rock band. However, this song was scary and I hated it. Despite having songs like this, I don't understand why this album is considered a masterpiece. However, as I read the listener comments, I discovered a certain meaning behind this song. I don't like songs like this by groups that only do avant-garde songs, but they can also do relatively comfortable songs, so I admire them all the more for their courage.

[@taigalain]

You need to listen to it a dozen more times to get it am I right

[@masterpeace8539]

or just a little bit of magic 'shrooms

[@a.k.1740]

@@Katehowe3010 If I have the choice, I'd rather not hear those things you talk about !!! 😉

[@a.k.1740]

@@Katehowe3010 Maybe You have a dog's hearing or something...! 🤔

[@a.k.1740]

@@Katehowe3010 I believe you and it is very likely that you will hear conversations in German in this mess since the band is German and Irmin Schmidt put voices in this piece !

[@a.k.1740]

@@Katehowe3010 Maybe your friends can't detect German? who knows... !

[@daveking9393]

I glanced through the comments... Looks like I can pass on this one...

[@patrick3926]

6:37 JP looking at us thinking WTF are you having me listen to?

[@JustJP]

👀Fr

[@sicko_the_ew]

circular pit cir- cular pit circular ... It goes deeper and deeper, but as you know I always try to fight bravely against the TL;DR temptation. The music we like is like that running round and round and round the maypoles that we like like that like one would have to move if confined to a circular pit, even. It's one of the things that make life worth living, but it goes round in fairly tight little circles, as if there's nothing else out there. That's because we tend to like what we know. Easy. Put it in the background, and get on with the crossword puzzle. No direct engagement needed. But music like this is wasted in the background (until it becomes familiar, and become just another undulation in that circular path we like to run round and round and round all familiarly with more things than just music). I think task one of this song is to either get in your face or vanish so far into your background that it can't work as "background music". To me this song sounds a bit like they've tried to move from borderline to non-music into a bare minimum of familiarity. Rhythm (with accents, I suppose, and not just "even spacing") makes it all music in the end. And then you can wonder about where this all really crossed the border. So what I liked ("loved" would be pushing it) about the piece is that it begins in a way that is unfamiliar enough to force you to either listen (and think "WTF") or completely ignore it. And then as I said, in the end it becomes music. Just music. Just the very barest basics of music. Something like the stick tapping music our ancestors would've made at some time in their caves. It does develop, but it's minimalist. It develops from noise to rhythm. I also like that it's "anti-familiar". Too much Bach is boring. (OK, so maybe that's an exaggeration, but the idea is right.) I must go and find you the Helicopter Quartet (hope that's the right name, otherwise I might get lost in the Internet).

[@sicko_the_ew]

Here's a quick 2 minute excerpt from the Helicopter String Quartet (played in helicopters, of course). kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2SnYoyPlKepjbc It's by Karlheinz Stockhausen, and I seem to recall that the university educated part of CAN had him as a lecturer. Or that was some other band? (But I'm reasonably sure it was CAN). I can give you a more normal cycle round the endless circuit of familiarly cyclic musical affirmations of our pet preconceptions that involves a helicopter, and also comes from Germany, if you like. _Moment mal_ ...

[@sicko_the_ew]

Here: *Helicopter - by Sand* kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4G1eWNvht2Cb9E (it's not noise music; give it about a minute to get going, and it'll rock your cradle like Mommy did.)

[@sicko_the_ew]

And then there's *Pierrot Lunaire* I suppose. But first let me give you the Italian prog rock song of the same name, before I go and find it. I think you might like this one, even if Sand was a bit too "stoner" for you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHyZc2WjZaqhZs0 EDIT: *Warning* : I forgot: It's just a *medley* of instrumental parts from an album, so might not be the kind of "spoiler sample" you want to hear. It stays in the circular pit, but good, comfortable music is one of the reasons for living, so that's not a criticism, just an observation. (And only observed from dire places like ... "om" ... )

[@sicko_the_ew]

You're in luck! KZbin now has partial Pierrot Lunaires, so you can listen to it easily in little pieces (and here, with lyrics translated, even - so there's some poetry to go with it). *Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire* I mean. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l53EkKl9n9tgj6s

[@sicko_the_ew]

Having said what I like (if not so much love) about the piece, I agree you could've probably made better use of your time. (Although going out into the far Outlands is productive in its own way on the right day?) You could've at last done your reaction to *Major Parkinson's - Isabel, A Report to an Academy* kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqOleHeAeJyGoMU (or your fifteenth listen, which is also good) (It's the one based on the Kafka short story about the ape sent to European research institute who learns to speak, and to express his opinion about humans.)

[@boq780_2.0]

Perhaps some psychedelics before listening may improve the experience.

[@a.k.1740]

Since I don't indulge in these kinds of substances, I'm afraid I couldn't improve the experience ! 😉

[@pentagrammaton6793]

I can speak from experience, that drugs with this track simply deepens the fear lol.

[@sylvanm4216]

lol

[@WillowWytch69]

I agree this is the weekest song on the album. It does bleed quite naturally into the next song which is also really long. Halleluwah augm and the next song are a trio that are meant to be listened to as one big piece but honestly halleluwah is the best song on the album in my opinion. Honestly when I listen to this album I only listen to the first two sides. I recommend ege basyami as a much more consistent album.

[@liv0003]

absolutely not, although Ege Basyami is a good album it is clearly inferior to Tago Mago. Tago Mago is an absolute masterpiece of music, not only is it CAN's best album hands down but it is also one of the best albums ever created.

[@lovetrain1027]

Can in the studio like: Yeah this is awful, drop it This is my opinion ofc, don't take my assessments as facts But seriously though, i don't like to put comments especially when i am going to be this harsh, but i just have the urge to comment on this album. Who listens to that and legit vibes with it without being ironic in the slightest ? Tago Mago is one of the absolute worst album i've heard in my life, rarely did i ever felt THIS angry at myself for sitting through an entire album, felt a legitimate headache by the end of it. This is just terrible music, it's not even a "so bad it's good" album, it's just horrible, side A would be the only thing about this album i'd let on this album. I am so sorry for you JP, you still have the infamous Peking O, this one's the cream of the crop of this album. A 11 minutes shitpost that i'm kind of ecstatic to see your reaction with how laughably bad it gets at times. And this album is considered to be their magnum opus, heck some people consider it to be the best Krautrock album to ever exist, if that's the case then we did it folks, we found the worst genre to exist. ON THE OTHER HAND, Monster Movie, their debut, is a great album, although the productions definitely feels dated, it's not really a big problem, and it by far destroys Tago Mago in every category, except sounding like a slog to get through.

[@-R.Gray-]

I hope the bad taste lingering from this doesn't effect your opinion of Hendrix's "1983.....", which has some manipulation of sounds with delay units. Some of the sounds at the beginning of this reminded me of what happens when you create and alter self-generated feedback with an analog delay unit.

[@-davidolivares]

Spoilers!

[@Partyschreck-kq3rm]

You tried to be prepared for this one but you wasn´t.

[@JustJP]

Thats for sure lol!

[@MisterWondrous]

For a minute, I though I was listening to some of my own musical invention, which means I have to be ready for anything, and that none of it is meant to be anything other than soundtrack fodder, just like this. I generally steered clear of krautrock because I generally steered clear of krauts, and tended to find the French, Debussy, Ravel, New Age impressionism to be more gentle on the soul than the Webern, Stockhausen, Germanic creations, but, having created both, appreciate them both, and wasn't at all stressed or uncomfortable listening to it. Decades ago I vowed to only dislike music I was TOO familiar with, because I had come to realize what benefit there was to learning, say, Tales of Topographic Oceans, or most of King Crimson or Mahavishnu. Or Stravinsky, who had tomatoes thrown at his wondrous masterpiece at first play, in Paris of all places. I don't think this is that, and I wonder if you too were troubled by the label. Sadly there are all kinds of hateful genres now. WTF is ""powerviolence"?

[@shyshift]

In 1973 Capitol Records signed them for an album called Soon Over Babaluma. I tried it and ended up nick naming them CAN’T

[@shyshift]

Capitol dropped them due to lack of sales.

[@roelandrutgers]

Since you only do a Krautrock track every 3 months it’s a death sin that you choose to listen to this unrepresentative filler bull. ‘Yoo Do Right’ of ‘Mother Sky’ are so much more essential! Real shame. Let’s wait another 3 months and see.

[@paulhine1061]

I'd thoroughly recommend "Mother Sky" if you want to get back on track with Can

[@edgeofnow]

It is a very challenging piece to be sure and NOT a favorite.

[@doomconatalia]

I love Can, but this particular album is... let's say, they can do better. It's just one not-so-funny funny album of Can

[@roelandrutgers]

Please skip 'Peking O'. It's gonna be the same time wasting.

[@a.k.1740]

Zzzz.... Boring. But somehow it set you up for The Beatles' "Revolution 9" !!! 😉

[@a.k.1740]

@@Katehowe3010 All this also rhymes with consumerism, capitalism and other schemes.....

[@a.k.1740]

@@Katehowe3010 Maybe but the music business is just a... business in the end !

[@joseresendiz3814]

No

[@liv0003]

Revolution 9 is so far behind Tago Mago. Tago Mago is a real masterpiece, one of the greatest albums ever created hands down

[@INTJerk]

I like it because it scares the bejeezus out of me. I like it because it's totally unique and transports you to some strange, mystical realm. I like it because it's hypnotic as Hell, especially those tribalistic drums that put you under a spell. Freaking amazing last five minutes or so. Challenging piece for sure and you just need to be on the same wavelength to enjoy it I guess.