Can I Beat Pokemon Emerald with ONLY HM Moves? 🔴 Pokemon Challenges ► NO ITEMS IN BATTLE

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In this video I take you along my ridiculous Pokemon Emerald Challenge Journey through the world of Hoenn in Generation 3 as I attempt to beat the entire game with only HM moves, and without using Items in Battle! Am I able to do it? Only one way to find out!
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[@MahDryBread]

Yo, Waterfall doesn't cause flinching till gen 4 This is gen 3 Just thought I'd say that since I'm seeing A LOT of comments about it

[@Stejers]

MDB could you make a recoil move only run?

[@ssjmatt8424]

I know this is an odd one. But you could see if someone like Atsign or a rom hacker could produce unique challenges. Like if enemies ALWAYS critical hit, or the only encounters are ones that are considered bad pokemon.

[@jiffbombastic3694]

You should definitely do one in gen 4, hust cause of the special-physical move split.

[@JoseHenrique-xg1lp]

waterfall is physical in gen 4 onwards. I teach that to my water onix rather than surf

[@Redturtletank02333]

emerald with one numel

[@francescganau7679]

Torkoal's ability makes it so its stats can never be dropped by the opponent. So, you could have been rock smashing for days before its Defense dropped...

[@JoeDobbs]

you beat me to it, haha

[@nxtboy96]

I always forget about that because I only ever see drought.

[@AngryWindmill]

Yup, weirdly overpowered ability for a forgetful Pokémon like torkoal

[@almightyk11]

I have been working on a rom hack where level doesn't affect stats and believe me that not being affected by stat lowering moves is damn powerful

[@SummonerArthur]

Its called white smoke, isnt it?

[@jojop9609]

As a kid I was so pissed finding out that cut isn’t very effective against grass type Pokémon, like it cuts trees dafuq?

[@MochiJelly4877]

And it cut the grass in gen 2 your right it be effective on grass types!

[@FrostyArrow110]

I think it makes more sense for cut to be bug type?

[@robertlupa8273]

@@FrostyArrow110 Especially since Fury Cutter is Bug-type.

[@timtam2400]

"I should just start calling my Pokemon by their HM names. Just to make it extra confusing." *flashback to No healing at a Poké Center Emerald challenge* "Earthquake uses Earthquake. No way that can't be confusing."

[@dicksonmattxenoblade6491]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who was thinking about that.

[@robertlupa8273]

That's _exactly_ what I thought. That run was legendary.

[@Iceyia]

Linoone is one of the only pokemon i know of that is capable of soloing the emerald elite four and champion while still being under the level of the elite four, specifically by abusing the power of substitute and belly drum.

[@heinzdoofenshmirtz8643]

That's the strategy I used in my Emerald Nuzlocke. Dom (naming theme was Animal Crossing series characters) was awesome.

[@gokun_98]

I see ur a FlygonHG fan as well

[@Iceyia]

@@gokun_98 yes and after doing it myself, i can confirm it is actually one of the easiest ways to beat the elite four, since you don't need to worry about a lot of things, like switching and items, and is honestly one of the few things that will make you feel like an absolute badass when you finish

[@saltyralts]

@@Iceyia Substitute/Belly Drum/Surf/Slash?

[@Iceyia]

@@saltyralts FlygonHG has a really good video explaining the step by step process for each member, but the strat basically boils down to finding which pokemon in each elite four battle you can belly drum in front of safely, followed by a sweep. I believe surf and slash were used, but it may have been headbutt.

[@AceWolf456]

MDB: "I keep underestimating the power of Linoone" me: "this is called foreshadowing." Drake fight: MDB: "Last is HMs who is 10 levels lower!" Me: "I knew it, here it comes!"

[@jonathoncampbell6813]

I would love a Zigzagoon/Linoone only run! The move variety would be a delight and would still provide a bit of challenge if you did it in gen 3, because it's special attack is still pretty low.

[@judgementwings]

Belly drum sweeps

[@jonathoncampbell6813]

@@judgementwings Valid. Though it would be a valuable move slot for type coverage and you'd lose health. If you came across a hard hitting rock or steel type it might get difficult. I don't even want to think about if he does gen 3 and tries the Steven fight. It might be a pretty chill run except for a few rough spots depending on what gen MDB pick.

[@judgementwings]

@@jonathoncampbell6813 literally belly drum strength shadow ball and surf

[@MrCrixmadine2]

Yayayayaya like to see this one

[@weedleenthusiast7882]

I know Linoone is possible, and kinda fun, because I did a joke run where I caught a Zizagoon, and gave it rare candies to level 100 before meeting Wally, and did a solo run. Zigzagoon I'd be interested to see though

[@Sharperthany0u]

Things started getting real confusing when you started saying things like “ I switched to dive and started using surf” 😂 great run though! Fun to watch as always

[@Rob_Thorsman]

It's like an Abbott and Costello routine.

[@finalscore2983]

I love the minor chaos.

[@Robin93k]

"I still think that Surf with Surf and Dive and Strength with Stregnth are pretty much are our only great moves!"

[@dicksonmattxenoblade6491]

I'm reminded of one of his older runs where he had a Pokemon named Earthquake (I think it was an Aggron?) and you start hearing him say stuff like "I had Earthquake use Earthquake" I think that was his no Pokecenter Emerald run. All my rambling and roundabout explanation aside, this reminded me of that run.

[@masterpollo32]

These runs are good, I hope there will be another gifts only one.

[@MahDryBread]

Can do!

[@saltybot5449]

Agreed, gift only runs are some of my favorites

[@franciscoreyes2463]

Do pokemon black with only ralts 🤣🤣🤣

[@needude7218]

One gift only run that would definitely be unique, but also really awkward would be Red/Blue/Yellow with only Pokemon Stadium reward gifts. I remember transferring over an Omanyte as a kid, and getting it to listen was half the battle.

[@franciscoreyes2463]

@@MahDryBread do a pokemon black with only ralts 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@connormccaffrey412]

Funnily enough, I did a linoone run in x and I won for the exact reason you said, it really did surprise me at how much damage it could do, and it’s practically the bidoof of gen 3 so that helped as well

[@That_Doctor_Del_Fella]

I did a ruby zigzagoon run. It took me being level 90, belly drum, a sitrus berry, and good rng on avoiding toxic to clear Steven. Getting able to overpower Roxanne and Wattson with only normal moves nearly drove me to madness.

[@Crein94]

I gotta say man, your videos are the life and blood of my entertainment most nights when I get home from work and can relax. Whether it's the corny fossil gag (mad respect for keeping it as long as you do) or the youngster Joey gags, its the simple things that are just so damn funny. I've been with you for the past few years and hadn't really commented but damnit man, I hope you're doing good and you don't ever lose passion in doing what you love. It's an inspiration with your amount of commitment and care for your close knit community. Keep it up man!

[@toodelooooo]

I usually dont comment, but id like to say that i really enjoy these challenges and ive been watching them for years now. keep up the good work!

[@Coreyc04]

I'd love to see a multi turn attack only run.

[@jand1993]

I guess we should dicuss how bad that will be 😂 Just like i we know MDB, he will most likely get 5 hits outside of every major battle and in major battles just 2, at highest! He would go even under the lowest possible number with his bad luck he has sometimes. I guess it will be bad!

[@numbernumber25]

@@jand1993 I believe that is quite an overstatement, around 2/3 of the multi-hit list contains moves that have accuracy under 100. 7 of the 9 more common multi-hit moves have accuracy below 100. Honestly the only way I see this run going well is that the pokemon that are using these moves must either have an ability that guarantees the amount of hits, an ability that boosts Pokemon attacks base power, or just increases critical hit ratio. The only pokemon I really know may be a contender would be Scyther, Beedrill, or Clefairy. Probably other Pokemon that have better abilities that could work well with multi-hit attacks.

[@jand1993]

@@numbernumber25 i'm aware that most of these attack have a power of 15-20 and an accuracy of 85. I know, several pokemon can increase the power of moves with a power of under 50% (like scyther) or can increase the number of hits overall. With those it is most likely possible. I meant it will be bad in terms like other runs. Not magicarp bad or metronome-only or that, but like mono type runs or trades only at the beginning. With the luck he has had several times, this will be tough in my opinion

[@wesleyoldham4222]

Corey said "multi turn attack". I think he means Sky Attack, Dig, Fly, Skull Bash, etc. *Not* Barrage, Double Slap, Fury Swipes, etc...

[@Coreyc04]

@@wesleyoldham4222 yes exactly. Solarbeam, Sky attack, focus punch, dig, fly, razor wind. If you want to include bide in this that works too.

[@EtherealistEquinox]

"we take it down with strength using rock smash", "rock smash is a really weak move, anyways rock smash fainted" 😂😂😂

[@Caleb_XIII]

"I should name them after their moves!" I do remember a time/ run where 'Earthquake' used Earthquake. That was really funny! :D And yes, maybe for a quick run a Linoone only run

[@munchrai6396]

Really looking forward to the gen 4 version of this run because Rock Smash actually gets a bit better. Would be really cool to do this run in HGSS because both Dunsparce and Togekiss make great use of move thanks to their Serene Grace Ability, which makes the move drop defense 100% of the time

[@tb3411]

Dunsparce is a fun Pokemon to use

[@steelballrunner636]

I binged the Mystery Dungeon playlist and I love it so far! I cannot wait for the new episode! This run was fantastic as always.

[@Robin93k]

Best Sentence: "I still think that Surf with Surf and Dive and Strength with Strength are pretty much are our only great moves!"

[@robertlupa8273]

Idea: *Can you beat Pokemon Brilliant Diamond with Cynthia's unevolved team?* You'd be allowed to use 6 of the following: Budew, Riolu, Gible, Shellos, Spiritomb (possibly banned due to being hard to obtain and being single-stage), Feebas, Togepi. If you think it'd be too hard, you could allow middle-stage Pokemon, like Togetic.

[@SpliffingBrit]

I love this concept

[@saltybot5449]

This is a great idea to do for any champion or hidden final boss’s team, just make sure they don’t have too many single form Pokémon

[@mattn0414]

Cynthia also has a Porygon Z, so Base Porygon is usable

[@robertlupa8273]

@@mattn0414 Yeah, but he'd have to make it his starter, as Porygon can't be found before postgame in BDSP. Platinum though...

[@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy]

Middle stage team would have Roselia, Gabite, Togetic, and all the other ones first stage since the rest evolve once

[@Bergzbot]

I honestly have not understood even a single one of the wrestling references made in any of these challenge videos. BUT they make me smile and laugh every single time because MDB always sounds so happy to include these references and I can hear the smile in his voice from laughing at his own jokes. It's just wholesome and enjoyable, so even though I don't understand it at all, I think I'm laughing just as much as someone who does understand. Thanks MDB for putting your all into your content; every single video I've watched is a blast and I hope you feel better enough to get back to what you love soon.

[@wandwoodgames5699]

Same, I'm so far behind with Wrestling in the whole wrestleverse, but I enjoy that he is sharing one of his favorite hobbies with us.

[@zjean3417]

*Challenge Suggestion* I have said it before and I'll say it again. Pokemon Fire Red with only a single Growlithe. Decent stats, shallow movepool and in a region that is really harsh on fire types.

[@robertlupa8273]

I'm surprised he hasn't done a Growlithe run yet.

[@timhiltz6323]

Nidoking and Nidoqueen run.

[@riley2099]

@@timhiltz6323 better yet, nidoran ♂️ and nidoran ♀️

[@TheAres1999]

Now that you mention it, I am realizing that although a lot of Kanto Pokémon are weak to fire, they tend not to be the ones that get used a lot by major NPCs.

[@robertlupa8273]

@@riley2099 already done

[@ariajohnson8107]

I still wanna see a Pokémon Gold run with only one Gligar! Great HM run, MDB!

[@13JackStorm]

Loving the Gen 3 content. Gen 3 Mawile only when? Benefits from both the Gen 4 split as well as Fairy Dual Type in Gen 6, so Gen 3 would certainly be rough.

[@DarkEinherjar]

In Gen III, Surf hits both opponents in double battles, but damage is halved, so the weaknesses are pretty much negated unless they're x4, and Claydol has a very high special defense...

[@eliyaskiya]

I thought it was 75% damage

[@notchapplegd7721]

It is 75% from which gen idk

[@cynblu5029]

Assuming you’re battling a full team of 6 Pokémon and you 1 shot each one cut has about a 73.5% chance not to miss so if you are battling a lot it is definitely unreliable also great video

[@yungprinc3232]

Yo mdb I started watching a bit before you were making Pokémon challenges. It’s safe to say you’ve come a long way. Keep going and making people proud🙏🏾

[@HappyBumblebee75]

This was an awesome run. Emerald and black/white are my two favorite gens so I live for these challenges. You did a great job. I can’t wait for the next challenge! GGs!

[@snogesallstrom]

I absolutely love your challenges! Just the effort you put in and not to mention the wrestling references haha you're the best!! I'd love to see a Ditto challenge if that's possible, maybe gen 3, 4 or 5, I can only assume it would be almost impossible

[@HighZ]

Absolutely love your stuff. Honest fun gameplay that got me through the 2020's. Keep it up

[@roymustangsgirl007]

I recently devolved insomnia. I let your challenge videos' run all night so I can actually maintain sleep. Thank you again for giving me sleep, and humanity, back

[@imdeonerik]

Thanks for keeping this up every week, I always look forward to it

[@vincenthall5908]

Yesss! Missing a run last weekend made me crave this even more haha. The highlight of my week!!!

[@NoArtisticLimitation]

I’m glad you’re okay! I almost choked to death on candy at 3, and since then - even if I can’t remember how it felt - I’ve had a phobia against choking. So hearing that... I’m really really glad you’re ok, and I hope that doesn’t give me bad Dreams...

[@ashclaw2306]

Still suggesting Mothim leading the majestic Wormadam trio.

[@UnknownVir]

This entire script is a "Who is on first" gag, I'm here for it.

[@williamfrieden1]

Great video, nice job as always with the challenges, hope you feel better soon, keep it up!

[@jadethest0ne]

This was a very interesting run! It was cool seeing you use Pokemon that you don't normally use! Also that Steven Stone fight was awesome!

[@zaccohen1317]

As always love watching these runs. A run I'd love to see a run in emerald with one of my favorite gen 3 pokemon spheal.

[@ryx1993]

Mah-Dry-Bread, I just want to say thank you for doing what you do. I love these challenges so much and they cheer me up every time they come out. The perfect way to end a week that isn't always kind to me

[@animaniac181]

Your giggles just make me smile. I just enjoy your happiness and nerdiness

[@cardinalartist5980]

loved the steven stone fight with rare candies. it was still gripping and he didn’t sound as fatigued lol

[@nathugh23]

Seriously man, one of the coolest things about you is the sporadic wrestling references through your videos, love it.

[@skandar3]

I love these videos so much. I oftentimes watch the first one intending to watch a bunch legitimately, but then the videos slowly turn into background noise as I keep watching, and I end up watching each video 3+ times as I go back in the future to the videos that became background noise.

[@AH62830]

Keep up the great content MDB. It's been fun watching the content though the last couple years and trying to catch up on some amazing let's plays.

[@johndunn1625]

linoone has always been on my primary battle team for gen 3 since the first time I evolved 1 back when I was a wee lad. love that little dude like you wouldn't believe, glad that other people are finally recognizing him

[@umbreth2240]

Excited for more Mystery Dungeon footage, love your work too

[@lmce7096]

that feel when MDB says something about surf and you have no idea if he's talking about the move or the pokemon the naming convention in this challenge was //chefs kiss//

[@glitchydemonfairy3171]

HELL YEAH!!! FINALLY! The challenge I wanted to see! I wonder if in past this challenge had already be done XD

[@glittereverywhere2038]

I'd love to see a Vulpix only run for early gen. The base stats are pretty low and not a lot of move variety, but it learns some pretty powerful moves by level up and TM

[@randombozo1306]

Something I always try to do that I'd like to see you try, is a pokemon run with only "unique" pokemon. It's a run where you can only use pokemon that no other trainer, gym leader, or any other person you can battle uses. It think it'd be easiest in a gen 3 game, but I'd really love to see another platinum run. Thank you so much for making this content, I really love your channel.

[@masterpollo32]

This was a very funny and good video, not only for the run itself but also for voiceover and editing. I hope you'll recover

[@dicksonmattxenoblade6491]

I left this as a reply but I figured it might be worth putting here. When you started saying stuff like "I used Strength with Strength", it reminded me of one of your older runs where you had a Pokemon named Earthquake and eventually started saying stuff like "I had Earthquake use Earthquake". I found that funny even though I know there's no way that's an intentional reference.

[@theatominator1623]

Sorry I’ve been missing the premiers lately. Keep up the great work MDB!

[@tpspeed]

Hope you're doing good dude. These videos have a weirdly comforting effect for me and I appreciate them a lot. Just wanted to say thanks for that. Also as a random request id really like to see if Umbreon in Pearl would be on your radar 😅 I graduate college in about two weeks and Umbreon is my favorite pokemon, gen 4 being my favorite generation. Sorry, i promise this wasn't the intent of the comment, just wanted to show appreciation for your hard work

[@CoolaKids]

I need a ”no damage run”! Would love to see u try something new and wild! ❤️

[@DonYagamoth]

One thing I'll say - while you say "nobody wants to see me grind for hours.." - The story is still fascinating, to get a sense of scale and time that you invested (suffered?) through repeated attempts. It's why I enjoy when people have a timer in their challenges - suddenly they have 5 more hours on the clock, that they don't even mention sometimes ^^

[@arthurzonatto4447]

Pushing again for runs where your rival picks a good pokémon too! MDB uses Mew and rival uses Mewtwo MDB uses Celebi and rival uses Jirachi, something like that. Loved this run, MD F'n B! Gotta say the names of the pokémon confusede a bit, but it just made it more hilarious!

[@catsgotajob]

Slightly off topic: It always makes me smile seeing you using my friends art

[@Zeldalink15]

Would love to see a Miltank run. I know it would be too easy though.

[@agentspade19]

Interesting how you took the root fossil and cradilly ended up being the final boss

[@bigz27515658]

Awesome video! would love to see an XD or colosseum run sometime in the future!

[@ceulgai2817]

I wasn't expecting a Kabal reference, but after seeing you pop up on Cultaholic so many times, I shouldn't be surprised.

[@CommMolander]

Thats a great run. I loved the name play. Chaotic confusion is most grand 😊

[@hagoryopi2101]

Listening to the battle recaps as background noise without actually watching the video is immensely confusing. Fun video!

[@frankdeantonio1109]

Anyone else wonder if MDB finds shiny pokemon during his grinds? Part of me envies all the encounters this man endures. Love the content, another great challenge video. Excited for more mystery dungeon and to continue watching legends arceus as well

[@GusterTails]

On our way through, I took the root fossil. I knew if I didn’t say what I took you’d all ask. Actually now that I think about it everyone ask anyway. Comments are good for the KZbin algorithm.

[@LavenderSunrise]

19:30 "You dare to use my own moves against me, Sydney?"

[@user-ox7yi1it9u]

The ending made me grin, god i love this

[@g1Chikumo]

Oh heck yes a Linoone run would be so dope, I'm a huge fan of the smooth furred long boy

[@rasmusn.e.m1064]

Hey MDB, Glad you are alive!

[@michaelcook1467]

So excited for the video, I can hardly wait to see what gives you trouble. I have no doubt that you can win, also how is sawbu? (hope I said that right)

[@Shlonzs]

You mean _Swablu_ ?

[@michaelcook1467]

@@Shlonzs Nope I mean his cat.

[@wildtofurkey1013]

@@michaelcook1467 Sabu you may be referring to, "after the wrestler" as MDB named it after :D

[@missmara4980]

I really like Linoone just for the look of it (and that's basically how I always built my teams), and I'm glad it got some love here. :)

[@knate44]

Hms pulling through on the drake fight was clutch. Linoone is one of my favourite pokemons

[@awes0mechr1s]

Glad you're OK! I choked on a piece of candy as a kid and had to get the heimlich from my dad. Same thing were the whole situation lasted maybe 10 seconds, but it was absolutely terrifying.

[@kidfury9694]

Watched a Mah-Dry-Bread video after a long time, good to see him still using the fossil-comment thing 😊😊

[@DinosaurDemon]

"Surf with surf and Dive and Strength with strength" was absolute hilarious agony for my brain to process

[@gregphoenix5272]

I got the Low Ki reference!! The World Warrior has such an ego man lol

[@AceWolf456]

10:59 Ah yes, my favorite 4 Pokémon. Sharpedo, Base Stats, Base Stats, and Base Stats! Man, look at those base stats. I know things slip by, no worries there. I just think it's funny that one of them has a name on it where the others don't.

[@ceulgai2817]

That's actually due to Bulbapedia's wiki formatting.

[@TheNoteblockLizard]

XD lol I just love that the screen started shaking in time with "Comments are good for the KZbin Algorithm!" Ever tried a mono-colour run using the ingame Pokedex colour sorting that some games have?

[@MyBanannas]

Wrong about which game I'm playing right now. I'm replaying Fire Emblem: Fates Conquest on lunatic. On a somewhat related note, Garon's beard reminds me of someone whose name shall not be mentioned in this wholesome community.

[@0MidnighttheDragon0]

here, in place of the Loki thing: "Faker?! I think YOU'RE the fake Strength around here! you're comparing yourself to me? HA! you're not even good enough to be my faI'LLMAKEYOUEATTHOSEWORDSke"

[@MahDryBread]

That's burned into my memory forever When I let's played that game, I even recited it!

[@0MidnighttheDragon0]

@@MahDryBread glad to bring back the burns~! love your stuff

[@DonYagamoth]

Comment for the algorithm, and also for appreciation for continues comfy videos from MDB ^^

[@Gureiseion]

Zigzagoon bribed his way into my heart with Pickup. A team staple for me in multiple generations.

[@sashasscribbles]

Linoone Squaaaad. Would love that linoone and/or zigzagoon run

[@jacobanciso6695]

I will forever love you always using Steven's full name.

[@jand1993]

Ah! Back to the classics! An HM only run! However, i would love to see a Vulpix run in a gen of your choice. It can learn quite a lot by tm, so i'm very interested, what you can do with it. And i'm not asking what fossil you took! I don't want to know, that you took the root fossil!

[@rebeccalambeth3427]

Id love to see a run of Pokemon Emerald with just Skarmory. I've used Skarmory every time I've ever played through Hoenn, even as a random shiny I got in Alpha Sapphire, so it's quite special to me and would be fun to watch!

[@pichuyaxy852]

I'm glad you can still breathe after that furious fight with overcooked nuggets!

[@kylieeliz]

I love Linoone!! I always use one on my team. Great for HMs and gets STAB on most of them too.

[@JamesMobleyIV]

"I tried to take it out with dive, using strength." My brain hurts.

[@DARobin-iv4tp]

"Honestly, the moment her arms were around me, I felt like I was going to barf"... Ahhhh, love!

[@erikaz1590]

I love these team challenges. I think maybe it would be interesting to see MDB use more Gym Leader/Elite Four teams like he did for Bruno. Like I know he's done Onix runs before, but how does the run/strategy change if you do Brock and bring both Onix and Geodude? It would allow you to take self-destruct for geodude.

[@daddyespressodepresso2207]

Crawdaunt is so underrated for gen 3 runs. Solid stats, great typing, and he can learn almost every single HM except for fly. Super easy to find once you get your rod too. He's great

[@TBOminuteman]

@9:52 I got so confused as to what was going on for a sec lol

[@Hyrulistic]

MDB: "Voice sounds a bit hoarse but I'll talk at the end, nobody cares 😅" Me: _skips to the end to hear the story_ Glad you're ok, going to watch from the beginning now! 😉 Hope it doesn't throw off your video analytics! 😄

[@connorcochrum2786]

Hey MDB, I just wanna say I love your videos, and I was thinking today I would love to see a "Can I beat pokemon (x) with my favorite pokemon." Not really a challenge, but a fun for the fans and you video. Idk if that's a good idea but I think it'd be cool to see.

[@parzival-bo]

"Spring is finally here!" I live in Newfoundland so I *_severely_* doubt that. Requesting Pokemon B2W2 with Only One Chinchou.

[@RealClassixX]

I recently played through Emerald using only items I got via Pickup and a team of Linoone. Had one Linoone for physical attacks and one for special. Was more fun than expected.

[@FonVegen]

Once again. I love Cradily just for how ridiculously sturdy it can be made.

[@hipojoe]

I have been suggesting a gen 1 krabby only run (no HM pokemon) for over a year now, and EVERY comment against this idea said the same thing... "This would be no fun to watch because of move variety." I think the haters now have no leg to stand on ;)

[@ceulgai2817]

Surf, Cut, and Strength? What's the 4th move? Swords Dance? Rock Slide?

[@hipojoe]

@@ceulgai2817 It would be whatever he would need at the time.