Can I make a song in New Standard Tuning?

[@100011101011]

seems like Mastodon should try NST once they run out of ideas. edit: oops commented too soon you noticed the similarity yourself!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

;)

[@bazdude01]

The verse sounds really like elder

[@boggeshzahim3713]

Wow I thought to myself, sounds like Mastodon just before I scrolled down and saw your comment

[@brunocosta6849]

@@boggeshzahim3713 I thought exactly the same. I think its because the acoustic and electric layering in the main theme of the intro! Mastodon layers acoustic and electric does that all the time

[@BockwinkleB]

Sounds like Soundgarden. Cool tune, cant wait for the album.

[@appeltaartman1461]

Soundgarden writes a lot of songs in weird tunings, maybe that's why ( :

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks! :)

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

and album coming in 2029

[@ChrisLeeW00]

I immediately thought of Soundgarden as well.

[@humanbass]

Came here to post this. Already done.

[@12warn]

Sounds like a new Opeth type of vibe.

[@bradruhfel4883]

Ive been playing an Eastwood baritone tenor that is tuned in 5ths and it is quite fun and different. Ive been thinking of trying a normal guitar tuned in 5ths, but maybe I’ll try this instead.

[@onlywhenprovoked]

Cool tune. I love fripp but i always thought it was pretty stupid to name it new standard tuning. Its most certainly not going to become the standard. And at some point it wont be new anymore.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Haha agree! I just think it’s funny at this point.

[@onlywhenprovoked]

@@LivingroomGearDemos haha yep. Kinda reminds me of newfoundland.

[@aestheticaltwat]

It’s fairly new when compared to the age of other tunings, however it certainly isn’t the norm.

[@creamycanarie98]

I love that optimism though. He's constantly looking ahead with his approach to music, even if it is a little naive. Sure, the tuning is really unorthodox (my guitar couldn't hack it) but Fripp's idiosyncrasies made him so far ahead of his time and he needed his assured, slightly smug attitude to achieve that! I'm sure you agree though, I just like to imagine he was totally convinced it'd catch on one day :~)

[@calvinl5726]

Shut up

[@manunautes1839]

I really want an album with your music

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

:)

[@dr.2335]

Can recommend the Damage album by Robert Fripp and David Sylvian. Recorded live in Tokyo in 93 on the Graceland tour. It’s perfect.

[@Andy_Yates]

When you said you thought it sounded like Mastodon, I shouted YES at my screen. I think it's familiar with those intervals, and it sounds awesome. I think there a lot of room there for vocal melody and/or some soloing. Thanks for taking us along on this, I'd never heard of this tuning until now. I get Swedish scenery watching Johan Segeborn videos, and Norwegian scenery watching yours :)

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Haha thanks! Johan is da man!

[@cyberian8791]

As a guitarist, it is very nice to be able to see you pick up this idea of yours and run with it just because you want to. Thank you for the inspiration

[@-k-b-]

This was so cool dude! Sounds like Oxbow mixed with CTS-era Mastodon. I like this tuning a lot but a half-step down: B, F#, C#, G#, D#, F#.

[@Marceloriighiii]

The final song was amazing, nice intro motif , you killed it !! Nice Job !!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks!

[@Atttuner]

Sounds killer speaks to the truth that limitations can often inspire more creativity and the int interplay between fretted and drone strings/the harmony and melody influence tuning intervals seem to magically constellate

[@eduf93]

Just great as usual. The song absolutely rocked!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

thanks!

[@juno980]

Seems like a great format, and the songs nice. I personally also use a lot of alternate tunings, since i find myself defaulting to boring patterns in standard often.

[@henkkman]

Your channel is great! Loved the forest backdrop 🌲

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks!

[@murphyia1980]

Sounded great! The small chord progression at 5:38ish really stuck out to me and the dissonanty chord near the end of it really made me smile. Could those chords be played in a standard (or drop) tuning?

[@overtonesnteatime198]

You just proved how important new inspiration really is.

[@holidaycomplex]

i love the shots in this

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

thanks!

[@Okla_Soft]

I liked it, unique note/chord progressions.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

thanks!

[@sgrimm7346]

Great stuff...Great effort on the new song, it sounds wonderful. Inspires me to try this. Thank you.

[@siets96]

Awesome video man! your content is soo good!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks a ton!

[@riffswamp]

Dude this was awesome! The song is killer! I've felt a little bit in a rut in standard tuning lately so this is a great new direction to attempt. I also like the idea for the series & look forward to seeing what you try next!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks and good luck!

[@thepedalzone]

This rules!! Freaking amazing song, my friend ❤🤘

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks Stefan! 🙂

[@Superseba645]

6:53 sounds kinda like Rotten Apple by AIC

[@piotrbonarski8360]

Awesome work!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Hazy777]

Nice riff, good track, congrats dude.

[@son-of-a-schmidt]

Nice song! Especially the melodic part in the middle!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks!

[@Kayugen]

This sounds like a great tuning for metal.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

probably is!

[@juanpabloporraslara5318]

I do really like it; good job!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks!

[@melihkaleciklioglu]

How did i just find out about your channel, this is amazing!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

I don't know, but welcome! 💪🏻

[@collinputney2018]

Bro that song sounds so much like Baroness/Mastodon, I looove it!

[@metalheadblues]

I flew beyond the sun before it was time

[@fq5296]

sounds like the soundtrack of an adventure movie, cool!

[@musicfreak1138]

Incredible! Great work!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks a lot!

[@kevinblaz6608]

I think this will be a great tuning for metal. The bottom two strings which are tuned C and G are essentially just the bottom two in a Drop C tuning.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

yup!

[@RaymondPeckIII]

And it's easy to add the second fret on the next two strings, to get octave doubled power chords.

[@bassert1966]

How do you program your drums and can you do a lesson on that? I am really struggling with drum programming.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Yup, will do a video.

[@riffswamp]

@@LivingroomGearDemos yesss, the drums sound awesome on this! i also wanted to ask about what program you used and a demo or tutorial would be super \m/

[@bassert1966]

You use ezdrummer right. But say you have a odd time signature beat like 7/8 the ocean from Zep. How does that work?

[@mouthbreeder5667]

6:02 sounds like the riff from arabella - arctic monkeys

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

love that song!

[@majorgeek3265]

Dude, your song rocks my face.

[@hraschan99]

Wow dude! This song drives me crazy. Thats a real amazing piece :)

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

🤪

[@hraschan99]

@@LivingroomGearDemos Keep going doing this great stuff man :)

[@silvioschmidt5346]

Really interesting what you’re doing with your channel. Very creative I love it! Had a video idea for you while watching this: how about a guide for picking the right guitar for the right part? You use many different guitars for your songs. Would be interesting to know your decision process for that. And maybe a little „can I“ challenge: can you make certain guitars sound like others by only tweaking some knobs on pedals?

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

THanks, Silvio! Both great ideas, will take that to the table :)

[@erlannderrantem6972]

Det var bra! I like the atmo of this song. It could need some more crushing parts with more fuzz or distortion.

[@Mindartcreativity]

Your song reminds me of Joe Bonamassa, kinda got that western, desert bluesrock vibe. Love that! Very creative.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

NOOOOOOO not Bonamassa

[@camw621]

"You have to be happy with what you have to be happy with." Also, "I'm going to re-invent modern guitar, just because I can."

[@ChrisLeeW00]

It helps if you get the right gauges, customize your string set!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

yes, I mention that at the end

[@MB-rc8ie]

Props for focusing more on actual music, which in my opinion is the most valuable subject :) I also liked the vlog stuff - hmm maybe mostly for the aesthetics of your videos (but I must admit that seeing some nice scandinavian towns and landscapes is always chilling)

[@trailingupwards]

I'm about to setup a JMJM in NST with strings from stringjoy.

[@TomsGreenMind]

It was nice to see someone using this in a non shred/metal context. I wonder if anyone does customer string gauge sets for this?

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

I think Stringjoy might be doing that. They did a video on about the tuning a while ago.

[@TomsGreenMind]

@@LivingroomGearDemos I was thinking string joy actually. Can you see yourself persevering with the tuning? I know some players have converted full time to it like Alex Hutchings. But he's a bit of a guitar wizard, so I just didn't consider it as something I would ever get my head around!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

I take a bit about it in the video. I would never convert into using it for everything. But for song writing I'll happily go back to it.

[@McMagpie]

Pretty cool concept. I like your videos. You got a new sub.

[@thesoulshakers]

Very cool tune. I like it and the video, thanks!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks!

[@theodorbentzen9013]

I find myself "writing" a lot of Eric Clapton licks in standard as a bluesrock player. Its really boring to spend so much time to make licks you think you made only to find out its just like any bluesrock lick. Im going to try this tuning 100% to challenge my creativity and try not to blend into all other guitarists. Great video, and the song sounds amazing!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Yeah, I feel exactly the same way!

[@AwaitingNonExistence]

I need more of that

[@chrisnagy1429]

That sounded really good. Fripp is definitely one of my favorite guitarists. I've seen KC three times and saw Fripp and his League of Crafty G play at a local guitar shop. Anyway, that snippet could really be super awesome if you put some more work into it, added some more instruments, etc. blah, blah. Nice!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks, Chris!

[@BatEatsMoth]

I guess that could work for some things, but all my inspiration comes to me in standard bass tuning. Everything I hear in my head just happens to be playable in all fourths tuning. All of it would be difficult or impossible to play in all fifths, all thirds, standard guitar tuning, whatever. This tuning would also be hell on my arthritis. However, something interesting is that I don't hear 440 tuning in my head; everything is in 430 tuning (classical pitch). It took decades for me to finally figure out that it was the reason the tones I was hearing in my head never quite fit anywhere; they were always somewhere in the middle between any two semitones on my neck. For that reason, I only tune to 430 now. Funny thing, when I sing without a reference, it's also roughly in 430 tuning.

[@RahhmiPoofs]

I admit that I've been playing New Standard for mostly powermetal for over 10 years. I didn't realize this wasn't a thing =X

[@VadimZakharchenko]

Great work

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@vargasmartin7143]

8:20 That sounds A LOT like the unforbidden riff

[@shredgd5]

Very very cool ideas!

[@shawnadams1693]

This was awesome!!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

thanks Shawn!

[@onthewattle]

Beautiful coat

[@kadsenkalle4663]

The Song is fuckin‘ awesome. Has some Mastodon and QOTSA Vibes.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

thanks Kalle!

[@lesnior3617]

This is great!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

thanks!

[@MarcusMoji]

Very cool. I always struggle with creating drums I always end up using the logic drummer which I hate lol

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

haha, yeah, I'm not a fan myself

[@Freakaboogie]

sounded cool!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

thanks!

[@dagnabbit6187]

Got some good Prog rock riffs going there ! Damn when is Cleveland going to get off their anti snoot snoot and put Jethro Tull and King Crimson in there ?

[@RaymondPeckIII]

You really should use a set of strings with gauges for NST. I have different guitars for E tuning and NST.

[@Jawnietheboy]

6:53 that kind a sounded like draw the line by Aerosmith

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

Fitting string gauges for NST: .008 .010 .015 .026w .038w .056w Adding a .008 to a regular 7-string set (typically .010 .013 .017 .026 .036 .046 .056) is an easy option but the .017 will be very taut on a Fender scale. Better on a Gibson scale. Or just start with a 10 at E4 and go down all in fifth to F1. It's no longer NST but it covers the range of an 8-string guitar with six.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks for the info!

[@petedazer3381]

Very informative!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks Pete!

[@utai4571]

that feeling when you pick up your guitar everyday and you're like "oh look i'm playing the same fucking chord progression for 20 years...yay"

[@dylandoge1627]

Dropped tuning the equivalent of the modern standard tuning haha

[@cryptic3420]

Dylan Doe double drop d is the modern standard tuning

[@nicolobalestrino]

i mean even with different tuning our ears still search for the old

[@BoboButYouCanCallMeTom]

Can you play Nick Drake fingerstyle guitar? It's mostly open C tuning and really magical sounding haha.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

nope, I can't :(

[@BoboButYouCanCallMeTom]

@@LivingroomGearDemos Yeah it's a completely different way of guitar playing, I myself would really love to learn it. I'm looking forward to your next video, I always enjoy them a lot!

[@johnny5805]

Fantastic job with your song. I wonder if you purchased special NST string sets, or mixed and matched from different gauge standard sets ?

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Hey, thanks! Think I just used regular 10's or something. Which wasn't ideal at all. Would definitely put together a dedicated NST set if I were to use it regularly.

[@edo7382]

It’s crazy how you can recognize Fripp by looking at his lips

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

If this is 432hz I'll top myself. Edit: Ah good. Cool vid.

[@largepoodle6036]

432hz is trash

[@mr.hooman6572]

@@largepoodle6036 right

[@intheblink]

Song at 4:56

[@ophhate]

Thanks dude. This guy talks way to much

[@christopantz]

Im curious about the bass tone, how'd you get it to sound that way?

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Positive grid bias 2 and cla bass

[@kommi1974]

Great channel. New sub. Keep it up!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Welcome aboard!

[@MaddesG1]

Try an 8 string in NEW STANDARD TUNING. Trust me also use an 08 or 07 on the E if you can especially for electric when tuning up to G maybe even higher(A for Guitar Craft Standard Tuning) but with 2 additional strings! Do some personal math in customizing what string gauge you would need per correct tension for strings to feel normal enough and not too tight for guitar and to touch. You'll have to try this some time! 8 string Combinations: C-G-C-G-D-A-E-G(Double New Standard Tuning); C(Bb*)-G(F*)-C-G-D-A-E-A( Guitar Craft Standard Tuning for 8 string Double and Variant 2*); This one is a bit of a challenge and is not really NWS but just as fun Bb-F-C-G-D-A-E-B(All 5ths Tuning) Sounds nice with the many harmonies you can get out of the dyads alone!

[@RaymondPeckIII]

How about posting tab?

[@mattfleming2287]

Very nice! Did you really retune all those guitars? What gauge strings did you end up using? Also, what about instead of the last string a third up, make it unison? It would give a 12 string effect. Thanks-I’m going to do some investigation into music made with this tuning and what gauges of strings they use.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Yes I did. I think I mention in the video that I used 11's. Sure, could make it unison, but I think that last interval really makes the whole thing interesting :)

[@novanalf4698]

Just find your Channel it's cool riff , did you change the high 1st, 2nd string to the lighter gauge ?

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Nope, just standard 0.11-strings, but it would be better with lighter gauge.

[@greatseimn]

Really really cool song! Love it. How did you record the guitars? Especially the Jazzmaster sounds absolutely delicious!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks! The Jazzmaster is recorded through my Hamstead Artist 60 into the Two Notes Torpedo. No pedals. TMG (Les Paul) through my Dirty Shirley into Torpedo.

[@TronciM]

Nice songs

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

thanks!

[@musicgarryj]

I know exactly what you mean about it being pretty hard to come up with new ideas using standard tuning, so yes it definitely helps creatively to try an alternate tuning. I personally like open A.... (E A E A C# E) ...first started using it for slide playing, but when I got bored with that I tried experimenting with it to find interesting chords and exploring lead soloing.... it definitely forces you out of a rut and stops you falling into all the old cliches. Have you ever tried open A for non-slide playing? .....Anyone? :) (Subscribed!)

[@SquareWaveSymphonies]

Very cool song! I've been contemplating tuning one of my guitars to NST, for quite some time. But I'm not sure which string gauge to use.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Check out Stringjoy’s video about that!

[@reggiesoundbox4923]

The drum track sound Bonham-ish... Not a bad thing though... Matched perfectly with the riff... Awesome...

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

💪🏻

[@jarlenjaastad212]

Fet sang. Bare å finne rett vokal nå. Gleder meg til å høre sluttresultatet 🙂

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

neste episode får bli Can I sing? svaret er dessverre nei

[@jarlenjaastad212]

@@LivingroomGearDemos 😄

[@arensedrakyan9032]

5:51 that's almost the licc

[@music_is_good]

Really love the song! Gives me some Opeth vibes too. What program did you use for the drums?

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks! EZDrummer 2

[@soysaucehairdye7869]

where does he live? That place seems so peaceful.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Oslo, Norway

[@Gonzo2707]

What a cool song! I don‘t get that many Mastodon vibes, though - to my ears, this sounds more like „Led Zep jamming with Frank Zappa, ca 1977“. Probably due to the awesome, and more than a little Bonhamesque drums 😄. More, please 👍. Oh, and please do make a video on how you did the drums.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thanks Christoph! Drum video coming soon 🙂

[@becketdejesusgomezguzman8956]

Seriously? Since the beggining the song sounds like mastodon

[@michiemouse2]

Weird question, but what's the coat you're wearing in the forest section?

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

It's a Burton Fleece jacket. Not a weird question at all, it's super cool! Took me ages to find it :)

[@michiemouse2]

@@LivingroomGearDemos thanks man!

[@-Zbrozlo-]

Hey, can you fix the link with your filming and recording gear? I really like the video and I'm curious what camera did you use. Cheers!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Is it not working?

[@-Zbrozlo-]

@@LivingroomGearDemos It works now. Thanks!

[@bradruhfel4883]

So you didn’t need a different set of strings with different gauges to tune to NST?

[@bradruhfel4883]

Ahhh, too soon, I saw your comment at the end that suggested specialized string sets. The song sounds great btw.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

:)

[@DimiLeventis]

This tuning is great for Cellists migrating to guitar, otherwise, I don't think it's much advantageous for anything else

[@AlbusBand]

There’s a little run you did on starting on the low C up around 10th or 12th? Yeah, I’m stealing that...super melodic turnaround.

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Riff theft! But it's ok :)

[@AlbusBand]

Living Room Gear Demos I’ll be sure to credit it, you know, like when people say “that’s a Clapton lick”; I’ll say, “Oh that’s an Eirik riff” 😘

[@fabiocaeiro_99]

Release the album already please!

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

If this video gets 100k views I’ll release an album.

[@fabiocaeiro_99]

@@LivingroomGearDemos That would be fair if people cared as much about strange tunnings as good music ;) Anyway, i think it has potencial, keep up with the good work! I discovered you channel recently and I like it a lot! :D

[@TheLordcasio]

Cool bit, but you just riffed on one chord (with fills)...it would be cool to see you play a "simple chord progression" OR write a simple song in the tuning.

[@pappyodanial]

Smashing Pumpkins in there

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

might be! Haven't really listened to them at all, so that's interesting :)

[@InAWinkOfAnEye]

Wow sounds nice, there's a certain Neil Young meets Smashing Pumpkins vibe in it

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Thannks!

[@bunnyhoppin]

what's that tele?

[@LivingroomGearDemos]

Gray Guitars Admiral! It's the best!