Can I Stay Catholic After This?

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Last week, I addressed the latest controversy in the Church about the declaration Fiducia Supplicans - which if you’re looking for more reasons to become Catholic, we have the best names for things… but anyways, the declaration gave permission for priests to bless same sex couples, which as any reasonable person should have anticipated, has caused a lot of controversy, confusion, and division in the Church.
And as should also be expected, it has rattled the faith of many others. I saw more than a few comments from people saying, how can I remain Catholic or simply declaring that they’re leaving at this point. So, I wanted to address that concern and respond to the question about whether I intend to remain Catholic or why you should remain Catholic.
But before I do, I wanted to say a little more about the document in question because there have been some new developments and a lot has been said since I last addressed it here. Like, a LOT has been said. So, let’s say some more.
#fiduciasupplicans #samesexblessings #catholicLGBTQ
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[@robitherese]

I’m in RCIA rn and this whole thing definitely feels like a test. But I can’t help but feel like St Peter when he said in John 6:68 “Lord to whom would we go? You have the words that give eternal life “

[@brucejohnson4462]

You are spot on.

[@BrianHoldsworth]

Beautifully said!

[@ventkatczinsky]

i am in RCIA too! i think it is a test at times but now i feel like this is BT and we're preparing to go to war with evil.

[@ThatKenpoGuy]

God bless you! I have been a Catholic my whole life and I keep going back to that same verse for comfort in these challenging times.

[@harleymann2086]

This is the best test, ever! I was a former Baptist minister, I became Catholic in year 2000. There’s no better test to prove that the church is going to be protected.

[@PintsWithAquinas]

Love you Brian. Not in a gay way.

[@StoaoftheSouth]

Matt, do you reject Fiducia Supplicans and resist it? Because it seems, based on your social media, that you do. Is that wrong?

[@pdstor]

@@StoaoftheSouth I reject and resist it. No, it is not wrong; we should not encourage something that is an abomination to God and that cries from the ground for vengeance, like murder and the stealing of due wages (enslavement). The proclaimer of this "doctrine" is not even Christian, just a person in a costume with a Marxist agenda who the Lord shall spit from His mouth if he fails to repent.

[@user-jn8nn6bf6v]

@@StoaoftheSouth Considering he's generally commonsensible & anti-gaslighting, I'd say he probably rejects it. But there's no need to force him to do this publicly, given his platform that caters for all sorts of people, including teaching Catholicism. Also, he's not a member of the magisterium. The best he could do is model how to be Catholic through such turbulence.

[@StoaoftheSouth]

@@user-jn8nn6bf6v if @PintsWithAquinas rejects it, does he disagree that he is dissent from the teaching office of the Church? It isn't gaslighting to defend the orthodoxy of the Catholic Church, especially when it seems the whole world has lost its head, and it isn't "commonsensible" to publicly promote dissent against the Catholic Church and her teaching office.

[@LC-iv8lf]

🤭

[@RachelLovelace]

As an Eastern Orthodox Christian, we have had a massive influx of dispossessed Catholics convert because of issues like this which are symptoms of majors changes that have happened within the Roman Catholic church over the last 200 years. The best I can say is to seek God first whole heartedly. Ask him to lead you. Many devout Catholics can do so much where they are at to encourage the faithful to remain in their prayers against this deception. My prayers are with you.

[@user-jn8nn6bf6v]

Thank you for this. I've seen other Orthodox behave like vultures. You and some others I've seen are people of good will.

[@johncox2284]

​​@@user-jn8nn6bf6vI'm also Orthodox and I believe we need to defend the Catholic church but decry any efforts that try to divert people from the doctrine of the Church. We have much more that unites us with our Roman Catholic brothers and sisters than divides us.

[@pdstor]

@@user-jn8nn6bf6v I don't blame them. Rome are coming after us like snakes! They do after every single one of these proclamations, they toss us in half their screeds easily with the usual "durr they rassis state church n dey have de same prollems" BS as if we have to follow our Bishops like the apologists do Rome's Pope. I forgive them personally. My wife is a Latin Mass Catholic, and has not lashed out at me because Rome vomited out yet another antisocially unjust pile of garbage. Why can't the ragtag bunch of apologists be the same way?

[@pdstor]

@@johncox2284 Yes, it would be far easier to heal the schism than to convert a billion people. We need to do it in a way that flaunts the world and that calls down its sin, as one Church again together with the Copts and Assyrians. We stayed with Rome all the way until the news of the Sack of Constantinople reached Alexandria, we were together in the Crusades despite political division. We had Latins in Constantinople who suffered with us, a monastery on Athos after the schism, and Churches in Italy. Rome is worth fighting for.

[@user-jn8nn6bf6v]

@@johncox2284 Amen!

[@andonisvatougios1734]

As an Orthodox Christian, I have to admit this catholic dude has given one of the best pieces of advice ever.

[@knightblossom8407]

Am I going to stay Catholic? ABSOLUTELY!! I was about to say, "I don't care what the pope does," but that is not so. I DO care about what the pope does and what he says. However, I will not leave the one faith that feeds me with the true body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ present in eucharist. Where my Lord and my God is, there I will be, and He is in His Catholic Church, and as He said naught will prevail against it.

[@gabolujan3109]

Become a Baptist. They don’t bow down to the gays. Bible is the rule of law.

[@hlasitevolani1575]

Hello, how do you understand these verses? Revelation 18:2+4, 14:6-13, 13:16, 15:2, 16:2, 19:20, 20:4. Doesn´t God says come out of her MY PEOPLE or you will die? What do you think these verses talk about? Joseph, Loud Cry Ministries, Czech Republic

[@Vlad_a450]

I would like to remind you that the current war in Ukraine is a consequence of the policy of Pope Innocent 11 in the 17th century, which led to the division of Ukraine between Poland and Muscovy. For 300 years, my people have been washing themselves in blood because the Pope wanted to weaken the influence of the Patriarch of Constantinople by transferring his greatest asset (Ukraine was the largest country in Europe with a powerful army and a developed economy at that time) of the Patriarch of Constantinople under the control of Moscow. What happened in Bucha has been happening in Ukraine for 300 years and is happening with the blessing of the Pope. I would not like to see Catholics in Ukraine at all!

[@anthonythatcherchurchilled285]

T ​​⁠​⁠@@Vlad_a450I would like to remind you that conflicts in that area had been happening long before the 17th century and your attempts to somehow blame this on a pope in the 1600s are laughable

[@spidey6077]

TRY EASTERN ORTHODOX CHURCH . I LEFT THE ROMAN CHURCH 25YEARS AGO THE ONE TRUE APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH OF CHRIST

[@FakeCrisRealTyranny]

I'm not a Catholic, but I'm deeply impressed by your reasoning and commitment to your faith.

[@JohnAlbertRigali]

Let him convince you to convert.

[@FakeCrisRealTyranny]

Thanks, but that will more likely be the Orthodox church I'm currently attending. @@JohnAlbertRigali

[@williampeters9838]

@@JohnAlbertRigali I don’t like that word. We’re all Christians man.

[@capecodder04]

​@@williampeters9838 There is only one true faith

[@danielcristancho3524]

@@capecodder04 True, but it's not the Papacy's faith. You should tour the Vatican someday, it's chock full of pagan symbols, from the large phallic symbol in the courtyard, to the large solar wheel that surrounds it. And that's only outside the Vatican.

[@ambbarofficial]

The latest controversy is nothing compared with what I saw priests doing in the name of the theology of liberation in the 80s. My faith wasn’t affected then and hasn’t been affected now. I remain a Catholic.

[@LC-iv8lf]

Really?? What did they do?!

[@daraorourke5798]

Tried to help the poor?

[@P.H.226]

@@daraorourke5798 Just because they did some good, doesn't make all of them good. Theology of liberation was socialist construct which combined Marxist socialism with Christianity. But it led to heresy, as Christianity (just as Judaism) values private possesion. There is commandmant of Love for others and for helping poor but it should be done out of heart. If you are forced to share, it's not Christianity, as being forced doesn't give you choice. Ultimately we choose good or evil. But helping the poor wasn't the idea of theology of liberation. Calling Jesus a revolutionist was. Saying that Jesus opposed capitalism, which back then didn't even exist, was problem etc.

[@notmyname4478]

​@@P.H.226capitalism Is a product of the jews tho and it's with such a sistem that they can increase their wealth and their power to push the satanist agenda

[@dingleberrysnigglefritz]

@@P.H.226 I just read the Rule of St. Benedict, and those men get to own NOTHING. Not one thing.

[@KarenSarkissian]

I am Orthodox and I feel compassion for Catholics when I see at what length they are prepared to go to protect their Church.

[@rccyberwarrior2267]

@@sA-ny2jl False Francis is not Catholic nor the true pope.

[@wauliepalnuts6134]

They're an arrogant lot. It's no surprise Satan has been successful at infiltrating their church. This is what happens when you leave Orthodoxy and embrace the world.

[@carmengarcia1317]

Yes. For 2,000 years. Catholics and Orthodox together.

[@JackFalltrades]

I heard Fr Mark Goring going through acrobatics trying to say couple doesn't mean what we assume it means. This is disingenuous. The document surely doesn't mean two random people are picked out of a crowd by a parish priest and are given a blessing. These are people who identify as a couple, and are likely not living a celibate life. It is the _union_ they are asking the priest to bless.

[@darius8783]

Semantics is a game for adults. The VISUALS this will create is for the little ones. Children learn from the what they see, taste, smell, and hear-they imitate before they can even read.

[@MattBurrill]

​@@darius8783Agreed. Well said. And it's a game that I have no stomach for. Things are what appear to be. There is no reality other than the one we have. This document said "couple" and that's what it meant. And that makes it evil and false teaching.

[@kevinmark6180]

I unsubscribed Fr. Goring for that.

[@andrewlilles1513]

My wife and I celebrate our 25 year wedding anniversary this New Year Eve. I thank God for the Grace that has kept us together. God will lead us through this troubled time. I offer up prayers and fasting. Thank you for your words brother keep up the work you do in the Body of Christ

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

What's troubling about The Vicar of Christ doing what Jesus Himself did when He walked among us (blessing sinners)?

[@maureensullivan8898]

​@@YankeeWoodcraftJesus didn't bless the sin and He certainly didn't sow confusion.

[@CatholicCat-er9xn]

Happy Anniversary!

[@CatholicCat-er9xn]

​@YankeeWoodcraft Blessing sinners isn't the problem. Blessing sin is, and the document wants this Blessing.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

@@CatholicCat-er9xn The document "wants" this blessing? What does that mean? Where in the document does it say that it wants to bless the sin? Please show me.

[@cristoforodelnero5138]

Dear Brian, You are such a gem - guaranteed intelligence, balance, wisdom, theological common sense. Thank you for what you do for the Church. May God bless you and yours. Cristoforo.

[@-Red-Beard-]

Vatican 1 turned all Roman Catholic Apologetics into a debate defending the Papacy rather than defending the claims of Christ and the faith once delivered to the saints.

[@williampeters9838]

Yup and they can’t stop defending the box they’ve created for themselves. It’s legitimately sad.

[@mariimichelle]

My husband & I are both cradle Catholics and have been for several decades! We are NOT going anywhere!!! Stay Catholic 🙏✝️ ❤️‍🔥📿📿

[@ArcanistBlack]

I'll be praying for you and your husband's souls.

[@wooeidikd9412]

​@@ArcanistBlacksame I'll be praying for them so they can have a long prosperous life.

[@marriedkiwi]

Majority of bishops in East concerned. Overwhelming majority of bishops in Africa very concerned. Most bishops in UK and USA privately concerned or want it to just go away . This letter belongs to Hernandez and Francis and his non Catholic bishops in Germany. If this does not motivate you to first Saturday devotions nothing will.

[@mrbaker7443]

@patriceagulu8315who is a tool of the devil?

[@ClassikMike]

Calm down, site sources for the number of bishops, especially this "majority" in africa

[@actnatural9261]

I mean, yes. That’s who this document was for. To address the disobedience of the German Bishops and to rein them in.

[@marriedkiwi]

@@ClassikMike the majority just want it privately to go away. Their fold does not get the message. Only a dozen of the two hundred African bishops go public. Another dozen in Nigeria leave it to their conference who just paraphrase the first bit about no change to doctrine.

[@marriedkiwi]

@@actnatural9261 ignorance is not a virtue. The German situation was hugely overseen by Rome and encouraged. Remember the bishops Francis insisted must not retire. Remember him claiming this is where the "holy spirit is". Remember all the homosexualist bishops and synod hand picked by Francis. There is no reining in. The deck was made manufactured and dealt by Francis and his Jesuits friends

[@janephillips8113]

I am a returning cradle Catholic I will never again leave my church, the Pope, Bishops,priests are all human we have good ones and bad ones but the church will always stand firm irresolute despite erring humanity.

[@Psalm51.]

Welcome Home! ❤

[@markone6626]

Bless you

[@mayday24916]

I'm Catholic who is currently exploring Orthodoxy, but not as a result of this most recent controversy, but because of my growing issues with the papacy in general.

[@Houndfromhell76]

That's exactly my problem too....

[@lilramivert6285]

Nice bro I just recently converted to orthodoxy

[@palsenka5755]

Catholic church is only true church , Orthodoxy - have a lot of bad leaders - Serbian church, Russians .. etc do not belive me - check out yourself - I know langauge is a problem , but not for me - many Ortho. church bishops are warmongers.., criminals with money etc..

[@Basile_KW]

I am Orthodox becoming Catholic. The confusion bothers me, but it hasn't swayed me. I'm joining the Church. Pray for me.

[@robsrob1283]

I'm so pleased to hear that. God be with you and welcome aboard 😊

[@Basile_KW]

​@@robsrob1283 I am returning to the Church of my ancestors, the faith they intended to give me. It feels so right to finally pray the rosary. It feels right to come home.

[@crusader333ad]

Will do. My father was a convert from the Serbian Orthodox Church.

[@Basile_KW]

​@@crusader333ad Wow!

[@loganh6500]

Interesting. I converted to Catholicism now looking at Orthodoxy. What makes you want to leave?

[@Dominick-ub3so]

I converted to Catholic this year. I will always remain Catholic but I do not support these blessings. But coming from a church that only had communion 4 times a year, I will never give up the opportunity to have weekly communion and the opportunity to confess my sins.

[@LC-iv8lf]

Even daily Communion! :)

[@brendahellenmokeira9124]

You can confess your sins directly to God who hears you from wherever you are. Imagine yourself confessing to an outright priest who is living an unholy life like the pope who is approving gay marriages. How do you think your prayers will get to be forgiven by God if your medium is filthy?I thank God that I can pray directly to Him and assured of being forgiven.

[@susand3668]

Dear@@brendahellenmokeira9124, you do not understand the way the Lord formed His Church, nor the way His Sacraments work. Jesus rose from the dead. He is alive and guiding the Church to this very day. Try to imagine yourself in a Church which always has Jesus Present in her tabernacles, on her altars -- oh, try to imagine yourself in a Church that *has* altars! -- that did not have to start all over again a scant 500 years ago!

[@brendahellenmokeira9124]

Hello Susan, I think the Bible is veery clear about everything we need to know about our salvation. The bible must be the guiding principle in all our activities, whether in the church or lifestyle outside the church.

[@susand3668]

Dear@@brendahellenmokeira9124, yes, the Bible is the Word of God in the words of men. But nowhere in the Bible does it say that we are to rely ONLY on the Bible. Instead, the Bible describes the foundations of the Church, under the guidance of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. From Genesis to Revelation, we can see the History of Salvation woven into the History of the Kingdom on earth, that is to mirror the Kingdom of Heaven. And the Church had to discern which books should be included in the Bible. It is *not* self-evident! It took some years -- not many, but some -- to decide on the canon of the New Testament. The Old Testament took longer because the present rabbinic Judaism was also making a canon, leaving out the New Testament writings and what might be used by Christians. Check it out for yourself. See if the Holy Spirit is calling you to your true home.

[@earthangel3234]

I was lukewarm Catholic for years and I was lost and confused. Pope Benedict XVI brought me back and the Traditional Latin Mass. Presently, my life is more fulfilling than ever. My family followed me and all 3 generations go to mass together. Times are difficult right now with these modernist schemes causing all of this chaos. God is in charge and sooner rather than later the pope and his posse will learn that they are servants of God like I am.

[@nicolerobinson629]

Similar story, praying my family follows me to the TLM.

[@wolfthequarrelsome504]

So.... You're more Catholic then the pope?

[@pastorbri]

and God will show homophobia is a sin

[@SS-en5uy]

I’m with you on Pope Benedict. The extraordinary form of the Roman Eucharistic rite, however, has very sadly been outrageously instrumentalized by a minority whose end game is dissent against the successor of St Peter. They have done the exact thing Benedict was hoping they would not.

[@pastorbri]

@@SS-en5uy Im with God over man and God is pro love......so we need to bless more same sex marriages.

[@CatholicCat-er9xn]

I have listened to many KZbin commentaries, and you are one of my favorites. Your thoughtful commentary helps me to weigh everything. I will always stay Catholic. Thank you. We are all called to defend the faith now more than ever.

[@VeronicasVeil333]

Thank you for your honesty, clarity, compassion and intelligence!

[@donm-tv8cm]

I was initiated in 2021. And while this controversy of confusion is horrible, I find it UNTHINKABLE to leave Catholicism! There have been HORRIBLE popes in history -- some who engaged in Simony, one who owned a brothel, and one who liked having nude statues of boys at his residence, reportedly. The Church SURVIVED and did not take that filth into its culture! We WILL get through this! Jesus protects his Church; we just need to remain faithful!

[@lanetrain]

Other churches have survived too, though. Orthodoxy obviously. Lutheranism has been around 500 years, etc.

[@apubakeralpuffdaddy392]

@@lanetrain Which branch of Lutheranism? American Association of Lutheran Churches (AALC) Apostolic Lutheran Church of America (ALCA) Association of Confessional Lutheran Churches (ACLC) Association of Free Lutheran Congregations (AFLC) Augsburg Lutheran Churches (ALC) Canadian Association of Lutheran Congregations (CALC) Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America (CLBA) Church of the Lutheran Confession (CLC) Concordia Lutheran Conference (CLC) Conservative Lutheran Association (CLA) Eielsen Synod Estonian Evangelical Lutheran Church (EELK) Evangelical Lutheran Church - Eesti Synod (E.E.L.K.)[2] Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada (ELCIC) Evangelical Lutheran Conference & Ministerium of North America (ELCM) Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America (ELDoNA) Evangelical Lutheran Synod (ELS) General Lutheran Church (GLC)[3] Illinois Lutheran Conference (ILC)[4] Independent Lutheran Diocese (ILD)[5] Laestadian Lutheran Church (LLC) Latvian Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (LELCA) Lutheran Church-Canada (LCC) Lutheran Church - International (LC-I) Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (LCMS) Lutheran Churches of the Reformation (LCR) Lutheran Conference of Confessional Fellowship (LCCF)[6] Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ (LCMC) Lutheran Orthodox Church (LOC) The Reformed Lutheran Church of America (RLCA) The Lutheran Evangelical Protestant Church (GCEPC) Lutheran Ministerium and Synod - USA (LMS-USA) North American Lutheran Church (NALC) Old Apostolic Lutheran Church Orthodox Lutheran Confessional Conference (OLCC) Protestant Conference United Lutheran Mission Association (ULMA) (BTW, that's only the 'Lutheran' 'Church' in the USA, with 1 exception.)

[@Carolinefdq]

​@@lanetrain Lutheran Christianity is dying though. Orthodoxy and Catholicism aren't in the best shape either but they're at least not rapidly declining like many Protestant churches.

[@dakabaka4912]

​@@CarolinefdqYep. Lesbians and queers took over authoritative positions.

[@ninjason57]

So none of those things you listed make you question the authority given to the papacy? Would Peter have done those things you listed? If the pope forced you by his authority to do something against your conscience and the word of God would you do it?

[@wolemai]

I am a convert. Originally raised an atheist, then being led to God through Scripture, then Evangelical Protestant, but knowing there was something wrong with that, and finally being led into God's One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Our Lord chose Simon, changed his name to Petros = Rock and then said Upon this Rock I will build my Church. I am Catholic. I'm in it for the long haul. OK. We now have a bad Pope! This is horrible, but doesn't alter a thing. There is only One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and it is under Peter. That's it. Throughout the long history of the Church there have been many saintly Popes. There have been some political Popes and there have been some grossly immoral Popes. Among the first 12 Apostles, personally chosen by Our Lord, one betrayed him then committed suicide and, from what Our Lord Himself said, we know he is now in Hell, another denied he even knew Jesus three times, 9 of the remaining 10 literally ran away when Our Lord was arrested. One, only one, John, remained faithful throughout. What I'm saying is that ecclesiastical treachery is nothing new. Who is ultimately in charge of the Catholic Church? God. Who must we finally rely on? God. Should we leave the Catholic Church? No - it is the Church Our Lord established under Peter. That's it. Anything else is a weak, fallible human substitute. St Therese of Lisieux, a favourite Saint of mine, who suffered far more than most people know before she died, saw herself as a little child in the hands of a loving, Heavenly Father. This is how I see God too. When we accept this then the evil machinations of sinful men fade into the background. Be faithful to God and to His Church, do penance and lots of prayer, and leave this current mess in God's hands.

[@oldvibes2878]

Thank you, you are right

[@whathappening5323]

You are miss reading that. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. Jesus is talking to Peter about the statement he made in verse 16/17 so there is a comma after the word Peter, Jesus is referring to that statement Peter made when he says ON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH. Jesus is always referred to in scripture as the Rock. Verse 20 He tells the disciples to tell NO man he was Jesus the Christ. Psalms18: 1-2 I Corinthians 3:11

[@Mister2120]

Thank you Brian. You speak my mind. I am not Catholic, but I went through a similar struggle in the Evangelical church I grew up in. I could go on for hours regarding the details, but it very much mirrors (on a smaller scale) what Catholics are going through now. I came very clearly to recognize that Christ is our true foundation and the failings of men do not change who He is. I will continue to stand for my God and my faith remains unbroken, stronger than ever before.

[@CatholicCat-er9xn]

God bless you! Keep fighting the good fight.

[@dawidustaszewski]

I agree too. We must read Early Church Fathers and other saints. Stay Catholic. Stay normal.

[@wpmaguire1]

If Archbishop Chaput, stalwart defender of the Faith, can remain Catholic after writing the following, so can we: “The document is a doubleminded exercise in simultaneously affirming and undercutting Catholic teaching on the nature of blessings and their application to ‘irregular’ relationships.” Keep the Faith, brethren!!

[@ClassikMike]

So actually 3 things are going on here, bout to blow your mind: He wrote that He's wrong And he's still catholic!

[@actnatural9261]

@@ClassikMikeand how do you know he’s wrong? Just because you say? How do you know you’re right? Just because you say? Who do you think you are to throw judgment around like that? You have no authority, so get off your donkey.

[@wpmaguire1]

@@ClassikMikesays ClassikMike😢

[@irenecastelino8827]

​@@ClassikMikeSaid by You

[@steamboy101]

I’m a former Episcopalian here in the US that will be confirmed in the Catholic Church next week through the Ordinariate. These recent events have been a fly in the ointment to say the least and there will be some “I told you so’s” from my non-Catholic friends and family. Still, I feel drawn to this faith and agree that we can’t turn our back on the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church during these times. God rules over the church and will see it through. Thank you for your words, Brian, and the words of other commentators encouraging us to hold fast during this time.

[@user-li2bo1qt1b]

I left the Scottish Episcopal Church earlier this year and I’m now a catechumen in the Eastern Orthodox Church.

[@steamboy101]

@@user-li2bo1qt1b I wish you blessings and hope along your journey, Sophie.

[@laurakeister5965]

I feel your pain. I converted in 2016. Even then I hesitated because of the pope. But I went forward anyway because what is true, is true, regardless of bad decisions made by a Church leader.

[@steamboy101]

Thanks so much@@laurakeister5965. I still feel confident in moving forward.

[@holycatholicapostolicfaith]

seek the Orthodox Church

[@shepherdson6189]

As a cradle Catholic I thank God for the grace to trust the Church Christ built on Peter and to His promise of guidance. All this years never had a doubt.

[@clynton8538]

“They are the establishment” … The reality stated as it is… Brian is so respectful, kind and graceful in his speech even when speaking on contentious issues. His goodness emanates from his demeanour… God Bless him and guide him in the truth always…

[@janierodriguez3017]

I am staying Catholic! Thank you for what you're doing. God bless you 🙏!

[@pastorbri]

why be catholic and not christian?

[@PinkSoldier2009]

​@@pastorbri Exactly!! I used to be Catholic for most of my life, I got saved in 2015 and I am now a proud Christian. Praise God! Catholicism is one of the most ungodly and bloodthirsty religions in the world!!

[@echotapout183]

@@pastorbribecause Jesus Christ started the Catholic Church the only true church

[@mkf628]

phew. lucky.. guess you needed this video.🥲

[@pastorbri]

@@mkf628 be christian, not catholic.

[@tornadojoe17]

I don't see how anyone can honestly read the hole document and say this document is blessing the "Union", Its SO CLEAR its the individuals of the union, not the union that is being blessed. All these quotes come from the document - "the Church has the right and the duty to avoid any rite that might contradict this conviction or lead to confusion." "the Church does not have the power to impart blessings on unions of persons of the same sex." "what constitutes marriage-which is the “exclusive, stable, and indissoluble union between a man and a woman, naturally open to the generation of children”[6]-and what contradicts it are inadmissible..... it is only in this context that sexual relations find their natural, proper, and fully human meaning." A Theological-Pastoral Understanding of Blessings - "One who asks for a blessing show himself to be in need of God’s saving presence in his life and one who asks for a blessing from the Church recognizes the latter as a sacrament of the salvation that God offers. To seek a blessing in the Church is to acknowledge that the life of the Church springs from the womb of God’s mercy and helps us to move forward, to live better, and to respond to the Lord’s will." “when one asks for a blessing, one is expressing a petition for God’s assistance, a plea to live better, and confidence in a Father who can help us live better." "People who come spontaneously to ask for a blessing show by this request their sincere openness to transcendence, the confidence of their hearts that they do not trust in their own strength alone, their need for God, and their desire to break out of the narrow confines of this world, enclosed in its limitations." "a blessing that descends from God upon those who-recognizing themselves to be destitute and in need of his help-do not claim a legitimation of their own status, but who beg that all that is true, good, and humanly valid in their lives and their relationships be enriched, healed, and elevated by the presence of the Holy Spirit." "the Church does not have the power to confer its liturgical blessing when that would somehow offer a form of moral legitimacy to a union that presumes to be a marriage or to an extra-marital sexual practice."

[@Echo-cx2gk]

Yes, but if Brian actually read the document, he could not, in good faith, make this clickbait/misinformation-style video. The document is very clear with its prescription and intention. The idea that Pope Francis is taking time away from the needy and crimes against the church to welcome sin is ridiculous, but Brian and several others did get a chance to make these videos and a quick buck. Trust me, if these folks truly cared about the confusion, they could read the document. The ignorance is willful, but I do appreciate you making the effort.

[@StephenDeagle]

The concern isn't so much for true Catholics staying Catholic. It's for the strong disincentive for non-Catholics to seriously consider conversion. I'm a former atheist looking for my path back to the light. I have little interest now in going the Vatican's direction.

[@BrianHoldsworth]

I appreciate that. What I will say is that the Bible takes great pains to teach us to expect bad leaders... throughout the OT and NT. God himself seems to choose faulty people at times. It is a witness to the fact that in spite of all this espionage, the Church still stands as the longest running institution in all of human history. It's a strong indication that the walls are kept up, not by human ingenuity, but by divine intervention.

[@elliotlazarus9257]

Stay away from the Roman Catholic Church, it is a corrupt organization with a corrupt, manufactured doctrines. Find a local Bible-believing church instead. Remember a church is not a building or an organization, it is the group of believers and Jesus Christ the Son of the living God followers. Read the book of Acts in the Bible to learn how a church is supposed to be.

[@coachwork]

Time to actually learn the history of Christian faith. Look at the huge difference between the Christian followers of faith in Christ. They martyred themselves. Catholics killed millions of people throughout history who wouldn't join a religion. Catholic religion has made itself a cult and the fact you notice it is a hint that Christian faith is individual!

[@shea4743]

As an ex-mormon i know mental gymnastics when i see it. Poor fellow. Only a matter of time until he can no longer excuse what the RC church does.

[@robertwarner-ev7wp]

It’s called cognitive dissonance and it is strong in this one. Also note the gaslighting calling people who leave a parasite on the body of Christ. The parasites are calling the shots and he can’t admit it.

[@jimghee6021]

Excellent explanation of difficulties. The people who run The Church are sinners as we all are. The Church will endure as it ever has as Jesus promised us.

[@Ju4n1gn4c10]

Right on, Brian! Way to stand up and fight for the Bride. I am shoulder to shoulder with you brother! ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

[@colinbergmann5750]

It's often said that even if the captain is drunk, you don't jump off the boat in the storm. With this, the captain seems to have jumped off, and the same holds true: stay on the boat.

[@templarrain2369]

This was another excellent video, Brian. I don't know how you keep these coming, but I appreciate it.

[@jerispencer8551]

We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities…Lord, we pray for our leaders and our church 🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️

[@kewpified]

We're in the time of the underground church. We must not run from this. We must fight and defend the actual faith. Running is not an option.

[@harleymann2086]

There is no defence of the faith required; this is a matter of practice, not teaching that addresses one’s salvation. Should you bless two homosexuals at once, or individually. I support individually. Probably you do too. This is not doctrine, this is practice. Practises can be corrected later.the intention is the same.

[@kewpified]

No, they must be called to repentance not blessed. (Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:18-32, 1 Kings 14:24, Genesis 19:5-7, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1:8-10) It would be the same for someone openly living with their boyfriend/girlfriend (fornication) or any other sin. That said, we must be mindful of our attitude. This is very important. “Be kind and tender to one another. Forgive each other, just as God forgave you because of what Christ has done” (Ephesians 4:32). It is then that we are more able to “speak the truth in love” (Ephesians 4:15). In his epistle to the Galatians, Paul had a similar warning about attitude: “Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted” (Galatians 6:1). Here we see that those who are “spiritual,” meaning walking in the Spirit in faith and obedience, should gently restore someone who is in sin, being always aware of how easily we can all be tempted by Satan who wants to ensnare everyone in his traps.@@harleymann2086

[@GloriaJesu]

@@harleymann2086 The only doctrine that has really developed is our understanding of the application of blessings, but yeah the Church's teaching on matrimony HAS NOT CHANGED thank God and the document made that expressly clear.

[@harleymann2086]

@@GloriaJesu Yah! And how these blessings happen in the future can change again, if needed. Let’s enjoy Christmas and New Years. 😃

[@thelonelysponge5029]

Sounds schematic

[@nancya8262]

BRAVO, well done as usual!!! Keep up the great work. We need your voice and someone of your gravitas to continue to speak the truth.

[@3ededed3]

You have again demonstrated excellent communication skills, thank you for your videos, especially the last few re: Fiducia Suplicans.

[@iamterico]

This is one of Brian's best, thus far! For me, I love Jesus and His Catholic Church. Now is the best time to be a practicing Catholic. Do have to admit, helpful to be in an authentic Catholic Parish with solid well-formed Priests to sustain you (e.g., Diocese of Arlington)

[@williampeters9838]

As a Lutheran I am wounded for my Catholic brothers having to go through this. However it is disturbing to me that they feel like they are alone. If I didn’t have any other sacramental churches near me I suppose I would attend a Catholic Church. I wouldn’t be “converting” to a different religion. The solipsism of Catholics is kind of frustrating. Every major Christian tradition is dealing with the issue of liberalism right now. I’m genuinely glad that you guys were able to stay biblically conservative a little longer than the rest of western Christianity, but can we drop the whole thing about being the “one true church” and the idea that there is nowhere else to go? Systematic theology is important but in my experience the Christian walk is much less about ideas we intellectually assent to with other believers than the actual call to bear our crosses daily with one another. We are crossing into an age where ecumenism will not be optional. It will be a necessity. While different apologists debate about whether Catholics or Protestants are more to blame for the secularization of the West, our children are becoming atheists and our churches are being infected with liberal interpretations of scripture. This has to stop. We can recognize differences in our theology in a way that doesn’t hinder the fellowship we are called to especially now. I can’t say I’m not disappointed by the lack of emphasis placed on returning to the gospel rather than defending the Catholic Church as an institution. The best way to defend her is to emphasize the gospel and the words of Christ shall rebuke and repair his church. It really does keep me up at night knowing that I have so many Christian brothers out there who think they are alone because they refuse to look around for help.

[@kimfleury]

The Gospel shows us that Jesus established one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. The Gospel shows us that Jesus anointed men to become His bishops with the authority to turn bread and wine into the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to forgive sins revealed in the Sacrament of Confession.

[@user-jn8nn6bf6v]

We've had bishops defending the Church BY preaching the Gospel. Have you not seen the videos from Africa?

[@user-jn8nn6bf6v]

Also, you talk as if we've capitulated. All I see here is that Pope Francis has seriously undermined himself and is likely regrouping as we speak! The only thing that has been undermined is the Popesplainer/Hyperpapalism theory of papal authority, but the Catholic Church never taught it! Frankly, one of the silver linings of this controversy is it has pulled the rug out from underneath this pernicious idea posing as Catholicism. The Church's true ecclesiology is now fully operational out in the open. The Pope tried something ... he's being corrected on it. He will soon be replaced by another. Anyone counting this as proof that the Catholic Church is done has fooled themselves, to be honest.

[@williampeters9838]

I’m not saying the Catholic Church is done. I’m saying that they’re experiencing the same problems of division and betrayal in high places that a lot of other traditions have been going through as well. I’m by no means saying that the Catholic Church has capitulated and I don’t think that it ultimately can but that doesn’t mean that it’s not a difficult time to be a Catholic right now especially because you guys avoid schism on principle. I can just go to an LCMS church and ignore the fact that ELCA churches call themselves “Lutheran” even though they so liberally interpret the Bible that it makes me wonder how many there are with a false sense of assurance about their salvation and to what degree God’s grace allows for dissent. I think it is admirable that Catholics always try to stick it out. My point was that every believer who takes God’s word seriously is on the same side in this and it’s important that we come together across our traditions to show that the deep conviction of trying to stay true to God’s Word isn’t what causes schism. It’s one of the main underlying principles of true Christians and a cause of unity regardless of the systematic theological conclusions being different. There are clear messages in scripture that every faithful believer cannot ignore without putting himself in opposition to God. One of these is the stance towards homosexuality. My hope is that a unified front would emerge between traditions to show that we are not divided on the authority of God over our lives.

[@williampeters9838]

@@user-jn8nn6bf6vI’m not saying this disproves the papacy. I personally don’t believe in it but that’s not my point. My point is that all God fearing believers need to show how important staying true to God’s word is to them. We should be standing shoulder to shoulder to say that we will not tolerate this liberalization not because we’re Catholics, Lutherans, Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans, Evangelicals or whatever but because we are God fearing Christians.

[@reja1309]

at about 14:50 Brian speaks about the topic of "scandalously bad popes and bishops" we've had in the past. I agree and the question and struggle that leaves on my heart is 'What have those popes and bishops done to the corrupt the Deposit of Faith and Tradition over centuries? Especially when no one other than clerics really knew what was going on and faithful Catholics wouldn't dare question things. Have they made a religion that supports a clergy rather than a clergy that supports a religion?

[@lumarei1]

I reallly enjoy your comments and the way you deliver - without anger and trying to put down other KZbinrs.

[@alexandradevorak3901]

I’m staying Catholic. I feel like lightning striking St. Peter’s statue in Argentina, destroying the golden key on Francis’ birthday, is a sign that even God isn’t approving of this. I think we need to stick together and pray for this to end. St. Michael the archangel, defend us in battle.

[@Vonleber]

I live in Edmonton and I am currently taking the RCIA training, leaving behind Mormonism after 4 years of personal investigation. Being Catholic is a blessing despite the spots we may find in Church history and Church current events, although many of the Church’s controversies are popularly misconstruedI. I thank God has preserved the doctrine and the Church. Let us not forget Judas was called to be one of the 12 apostles. Thus, let’s not forget God does not call perfect people. He qualifies them if they allow Him to do so. I am grateful that God is giving me the opportunity to join the church middle of the social, ideological turmoil attempting to distort the doctrine f the Church . It does helps me see for myself that I am truly committed to join he Church, This is nothing new, many heresies and bad leadership have been overcome. Let’s us make of this a faith building experience. I was born in Argentina and know about Bergoglio before he became pope Francis. His political views, actions and inactions in the country were not of my liking, yet I will support Him and pray for him as he is the Pope of the one true Church. Let us pray for him and for ourselves to not creep into error. We must monitor our thinking regularly for the ideological war can subtly make us belief in all kinds of heresies. In mad times like ours, the truth and what God wants for us may seem counterintuitive in today’s society, so learning about the early fathers of the church, reading the didache are just a few of the many things I do to ensure I am not deceive with today’s trends.

[@charlesaryan8306]

The good Cardinal's understanding of the word "couple," reminds me of a conversation that Alice had with Humpty Dumpty in "Through the Lookinging Glass:" 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

[@shawngoldman3762]

As an Orthodox, I empathize with you, but I find the whole "No doubts here, let's stay the course" position to be somewhat disingenuous. This Pope has prayed to a pagan idol that he placed on an altar in St. Peter's. Now he is blessing gay unions. He has also destroyed the pro-life wing of the Catholic Church and invited an abortionist to speak at the Vatican. He has changed Catholic doctrine (eg, the death penalty). And in spite of all this, you "have no doubts"? What is it going to take for you to wake up and realize that this Pope is dismantling the Catholic Church? At least Patriarch Sviatoslav has said the 🏳️‍🌈 blessings don't apply to the Ukrainian Catholic clergy. God bless you all, and may you come to Orthodoxy sooner than later.

[@pringlessourcream9527]

Sad, the Vatican leaders did not care to explain for the rest of the world and added to more confusions. That pacha mama incident, I have learnt is meant to represent as our Mother "The Mother of the Amazon," and the woman who presented to Pope is a church leader. Reason and theology explained in detail in his YT channel.

[@Jean_sans_peur]

I love you for this video man. Thank you. You don't have to have a high level canonical or theological education to see the problem with this document. I'm trying to give PF the benefit of the doubt with respect to intent , I have to think that his appointment of Fernandez to this post has to be a consternation for his pontificate at this point. He's clearly in over his head and has had to back peddle on it and the equivocate that no one has to implement it within their diocese. 😂 I'm so grateful for you converts to the faith. You are some of the most vociferous defenders of it! Thank you again

[@NormanSilv]

I'm staying but I sure stopped all financial support. My donations now go to Charitable groups.

[@charlesoneill466]

Right on

[@darius8783]

You can always contribute to Holy, Traditional orders or directly to Pastors for “Living Expenses” in the memo. Be careful who you contribute to. Lepanto Institute has catalogued an army of Catholic named charities that fund things no Catholic should be supporting.

[@carlki]

This is the best analysis of this issue and the consequences yet to come. I don’t watch every video on this channel but glad I subscribed to hear this. Thank you.

[@mary1326]

So happy to have found your channel Brian. Happier that you're also in Alberta and can make reference to the issues here. Really enjoying your videos.

[@TheGarretdeas]

Brian, thanks for your continuing great Catholic witness during this time of trial in the Church. Your balanced and nuanced contributions keeps one's feet firmly planted on the ground and puts into perspective the historical ups and downs of the 2000 year old church founded by Our Lord Jesus. Your erudite and inspiring videos are very much appreciated.

[@rockingpox2274]

May as well just throw objective morality out the window. In the Catholic Church, morality is subjective based on the time period, location or people group, yet they claim to serve the God who never changes.

[@darius8783]

The god of surprises is not the same as the same God who declared “I am.” Just as the spirit of Vatican II is not the same as the Holy Spirit.

[@56Tyskie]

“Lord to whom would we go? You have the words that give eternal life “

[@curiousing]

I was a convert to the Catholic Church. There was a time when I felt deeply comforted-cradled even-in the Catholic Church. But the more time I spent there, the more I felt that the factions within the church were tearing it apart. In the end, for me, it boiled down to the one thing Christ said would mark His Church: that they love one another. I couldn't say I saw even a little bit of that in the Catholic Church. I wandered for years after leaving, spending time with the Orthodox, the Quakers, the Anglo-Catholics, even some Anglo-Protestants. In the end, I settled with the Orthodox, and the contrast to the Catholic Church is stark. Catholics think Orthodoxy is the same as them only with more emphasis on "mystery". That's a huge misconception. Orthodoxy is much more a spirituality than a religion. In Catholicism, I felt the institution more than the Spirit. In Orthodoxy, if you're feeling the institution more than the Spirit, you're doing it all wrong, and they're going to tell you again and again until you get it right.

[@RafaelCosta-fy7tb]

Do catholics hate each other? Btw, Jesus clearly instituted the Church..as st Paul said: "the Church is the pillar of the Truth."

[@pavelrazamazov2672]

Well you might be thinking like this because Eastern Orthodoxy itself has changed. Your religion was a bit different in the past when emperors and czars were heavily involved in the Church business. Now that thats gone, i guess you’re just left with some type of spirituality.

[@watermain48]

That was a fantastic explanation of what can only be seen as a problem document. Thank you my young friend.

[@joefrescoln]

17:55 This was Luther's initial stance as well. He wasn't jumping ship, he was taking a stand for the catholic faith. Of course this was during a time in which that stance could get you killed by the church. Now you just get "fired" 😉.

[@reja1309]

How did Lutheranism go so far off the rails with notion that grace covers all sin without the necessity of actions? That contradicts the Bible, but that was fixed by throwing out the troublesome books and ignoring other clear passages.

[@joefrescoln]

@@reja1309 Not sure what you're talking about. Might ask a Lutheran about it (Jordon B Cooper?). They might respond in kind about "off the rails", with Marian dogmas, indulgences, and infallibility 🤷‍♂️.

[@DarrylPenner]

The declaration shows us the heart of the Catholic leaders.

[@uverpro3598]

My wife is Serbian Orthodox. I’ve flirted with it for years now, but I’ve decided to become confirmed. The direction the Vatican is going is clear.

[@lisyp3775]

(John 16:33) Catholic for life, because who said being a Christian was going to be easy🙇The Holy Catholic Church is the only and one true Church Jesus founded. Amen & God bless🙇

[@Personaje123]

Just go to the sspx where catholic tradition is kept

[@williampeters9838]

@@lisyp3775I’m not sure if you meant to but you’re kind of implying that he’s no longer a true Christian if he becomes orthodox which is not definitely not the case. NonCatholics are just as much a part of the body of Christ as you are even if you think that their doctrine isn’t as true.

[@uverpro3598]

The Orthodox Church has valid sacraments. It has Apostolic Secession. It has a valid Eucharist (all according to the Roman Church) which is what it’s all about. It’s either this or sedeprivationism for me. And The Orthodox version of Pascal’s Wager by far makes the most sense. I will still be praying for the Traditionalists and the true Roman Catholics.

[@uverpro3598]

@@Personaje123 I always have, ever since I became Catholic from Cradle Baptist 12 years ago. I’ve never attended a Novus Ordo and never would. But I really want to raise my kids in a church with young families, a valid sacrament, and sense of community (I am not Serbian but their mother is).

[@jessgatt5441]

I am a poor sinner, but I have left the Roman church for the same reason I left California, because I no longer have a place there.

[@mkf628]

in other words, cowerdice.

[@FSR431]

Staying Catholic in season or out. He never came down from the Cross.

[@stephanie4949]

Excellent! Thank you so much, Brian! I needed to hear this.

[@denniswandlertarbaby]

Awesome explanation! Thank you 🙏🙏

[@michellestansberry9101]

I thought surely in my heart that I would convert after RCIA converting from LDS. I’m not feeling the love after all of this heresy in the church and having an infallible pope is not serving the body of Christ with truth, I am going to attend an orthodox service. I have prayed and prayed for the one true church and God responded finally with “you will know in time” what was at first an exciting and very peaceful journey is now just making it stressful. I may have to do another round of RCIA. I beleive the document is just full of deceit and that is Satan at work. I know he’s attacks churches. Even in my LDS faith I followed the laws laid down by Jesus Christ. Loving and serving my neighbors and obeying the law of chastity, living a clean life. I just was never able to have the testimony that the Book of Mormon is true. I read it and read it and asked God and I never heard His voice. I will never talk down to or about my LDS friendships because they are genuine and probably the least judgemental and most caring and giving families I know.

[@gentz8310]

I'm not Catholic because of Bergoglio and Fernandez. I'm Catholic because of my ancestors who loved to pray the rosary, loved the holy mass, confession, communion and they tried to be good Catholics, so am I. Deo Gratias

[@wolfthequarrelsome504]

You can't dis the pope and remain in communion with the church. What are you going to do for the sacraments now?

[@gentz8310]

@@wolfthequarrelsome504 I go to mass, simply as that

[@ClassikMike]

Sedevacantist much? Bad form.

[@mkf628]

that's 'Pope Francis' to you, arrogant peanut.

[@merryanndobbs]

Very timely video. Thanks.

[@camhammer6147]

Outstanding Video. I’ve only occasionally come across your content, but I enjoy it when I do. You’re right, you’re intuitions are right. We all know this it’s just a matter of what you’re going to do for you and your family. You know the stakes. God be with you brother ☦️

[@thetraditionalthomist]

Great video Mr. Holdsworth!

[@craigbritton3213]

I love you, brother. I'm Lutheran, one that holds to the Lutheran Confessions. Help, please with a few questions I have: To whom is Francis truly listening? Is he listening to the Father of Jesus? Is he listening to the clear voice of Holy Scripture? And to whom is he encouraging the church's pastors to listen? I'm not going any further on this than that. I mean absolutely NO disrespect toward you or my Roman Catholic family. I am praying for you all. Pray for we Lutherans, too. God's peace to you.

[@Alga12004]

God bless you and your knowledge and what you bring to our Church during this difficulty. Well said brother. From Southern California.

[@JohnMallon777]

Excellent analysis. Thank you!

[@YearKnife]

Thank you so much for making this. I have been so distressed with these recent developments but you helped me remember why I converted to Catholicism in the first place.

[@andyhandy997]

They're never going to give you a direct, heretical, challenge-able new doctrine or dogma. In case you haven't worked out the strategy yet. Gradualism. Enjoy the new springtime...

[@mercedesrodrigo9137]

Excellent summary and analysis. Thank u❣️

[@guate6]

Good video. I'll be sharing this.

[@TruthSeeker-333]

Great as usual Brian, I will remain Catholic, but it’s not helpful to call some cowards. Some good people are genuinely scandalized by their own Church; this is not their fault but the fault of Church-men (the real cowards) that created this scandal. Those that are afraid for their children are not cowards, it’s the clergy flee from truth that are the cowards.

[@babsmarie]

O agree. To have charity is to understand Catholics who are scandalized by this new document and question the Church and call them to have faith in Christ and remain rather than call them cowards.

[@cynthiatrimble5301]

Thank you for that comment. I was shocked at his derogatory statement directed at the people who don’t have the benefit of a priest, bishop or community willing to reject this LGBTQ agenda. We are in the trenches and don’t want our children’s souls jeopardized. We have the outside secular world against us and are taking hits from within the church. It’s disheartening to hear someone ,who is isolated from the fight ,to call us, the parents and grandparents, cowards and parasites who were never really Catholic. I give up! We have to go somewhere where we can find a community in the church who will stand with us and stand firm in the truth and teachings of our Lord. We are fighting on too many fronts and now the KZbin podcast theologian intellectuals are throwing their stones while living in their comfortable homes on a a hill in a gated community with fellow like minded people and a priest and Bishop who are traditional all the while telling us to get into the ring with the devil and sacrifice our children to him to sustain “ The true Church”, , and if you don’t you are despicable. Something is very wrong here! Wow!

[@TruthSeeker-333]

@@cynthiatrimble5301 You’re not alone. Brian is usually good, I sense that he’s just as scandalized and is really saying that more for himself, as he probably had thoughts of leaving or something of that sort - as have many of us. But it doesn’t help to attack the scandalized like he did

[@cynthiatrimble5301]

@@TruthSeeker-333 I was wondering about that because he doesn’t seem like a mean spirited person. I’ve listened to him before and he’s been grounded, articulate, and so reflective of Christ in his speech. I tend to get a bit defensive these days. I feel like I’m in a war and very fatigued from the ongoing artillery constantly shelling us in this relentless battle . Lol I need to be careful of my own behavior. Lol. Praying for a good church and friends for my family. Thank you for reminding me. It’s important to remember not everyone is the enemy and friends are struggling too. These are really difficult times

[@babsmarie]

I agree that Brian is one of the faithful podcasters, and I agree with his arguments to stay in the Church. Just don't call everyone questioning whether to leave a coward. These times are not for the weak and society is already against us. It is also disheartening to see the hierarchy of the Church not standing firm against the secular tide. But it is always Christ that we should lean upon, and we find Him in the Holy Eucharist! Keep praying for the pope and the Church! The devil is attacking ferociously.

[@marcelw6045]

The pope himself asked the laity to “make a mess” in the Church: so 1) the document makes a major mess, and 2) Tucho’s subsequent “clarifications” make even more messes. Mission accomplished.

[@frankie8648]

Thank you for the clarity. ✝️🙏🏼

[@DaddyBooneDon]

I'm not a catholic but I think we share the same reasons to remain faithful to the call of Christ in our lives. I especially appreciate the distinction you drew between difficulties and doubts. Blessings to you in the new year

[@arnoeeuwigheid4499]

WE, the FAITHFUL, are the CHURCH!!!! NOT the clergy!!! NOT the church BUILDING!!! but WE!!!! WITHOUT the faithful there is NO church and the clergy as well as the church buildings are USELESS!!! So DON'T lose hope and NEVER GIVE UP!!! TRUST IN GOD and the Holy Virgin and NEVER STOP PRAYING and NEVER LEAVE our beloved Roman Catholic Church!! You are NOT ALONE in this!!! 🙏💒🇳🇱❤

[@brick1357]

i dont listen often, im a new follower, but great discussion Brian. God Bless

[@colleenfrance]

Grateful that these difficult and confusing times raise of prophetic lay people (like you) to bring clarity and sense to the faithful. Important to know our complicated history and hold tight to Christ, who sustains our Church, day in and day out! Spot on, Brian! We are one body!

[@angelrosec]

So glad i listened to this!! A wonderful explanation!!

[@jkellyid]

The term couple denotes the union as you explain. It is not simply a quantity, though it is a quantity. It is a sad day to watch our teachers fail so profoundly at their responsibilities. Imagine being someone who takes a vow to dedicate every aspect of their life to this pursuit and then to so fundamentally and completely fail at this pursuit.

[@harleymann2086]

Actually, you are completely wrong, respectfully. I’m not gonna defend the document because it’s not clear. But what is clear, is the churches intention to bless individuals. This has been stated a number of times.

[@killianmiller6107]

The term couple does not denote the union, “pareja” does not denote “unión,” and FS is very clear on this since blessing the union is explicitly forbidden in at least 3 places, and the blessing is meant not to affirm anything but to help the people live holier by imparting actual grace. A priest’s duty is to help people live holier. It’s easy to understand why people misunderstand what the church is teaching here, but we should stop complaining about it and actually work to help people understand it.

[@GloriaJesu]

The document is expressly clear that couple ≠ union. Fernández also made that clear in the Pillar interview.

[@ArcanistBlack]

Yeah. I listened thinking he was going to say something deep, but instead he was debating semantics. Sad.

[@alhilford2345]

@@harleymann2086 : Since the Church has always blessed individuals, why was there a need for this declaration?

[@SecondClassCitizen805]

As one of those people who left the church for othodoxy, not for this reason alone. I want to address a few points. 1 a difference of ideas as stated at the 18 min mark is what separates denominations. 2. You have ignored the concept of papal infallibility. 3. Christians who see error in the church that IS, if not heretical well on its way to be are not "Cowards". I believe you are a good Christian wrestling with a hard issue. I also believe you are avoiding hard truths

[@Personaje123]

There's no solemn definition in the document, even if it teaches heresy Catholics are not bound to believe it. So papal infallibility is not at stake here

[@williampeters9838]

Wait… you’re saying that God’s kingdom is larger than one human institution? Prepare to be corrected by the adherents of the “ONE TRUE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH.” It’s so tiresome. Why can’t we just recognize that we’re all Christians while maintaining our distinct beliefs about assurance of salvation? I 100% agree with you. The solipsism of Catholic doctrine is what creates this catch 22 for them.

[@williampeters9838]

@@Personaje123That’s fine but I’d rather attend a church led by someone who doesn’t care less about God’s Word than climate change.

[@SecondClassCitizen805]

@williampeters9838 This may come as a surprise, but I actually agree with you. I obviously take issue with some parts of other denominations, but last I checked, it isn't my call. While these are human institutions, it's the best we got. My big issue her is the justification and pretending this document is anything but what it is.

[@SecondClassCitizen805]

@Personaje123 same sex is a definition and couple is a definition.

[@wenr642]

Thanks Brian. A great insight and very helpful. Greetings from Indonesia.

[@thebananaprince]

Amazing video. I just discovered you and agree with you 100%. Bless you Brian.

[@flyoptimum]

There's been a couple of times, the last round of sex-abuse scandals is a prominent example, when in despair I've actively looked for another option, hoping I'd find one. Every single time I've come up with nowhere else to go. My desire to leave the Church was always an emotional desire, and my decision to stay was always an intellectual one. There's simply nowhere else to go that makes logical sense, so here I am. The one other thing I'd mention is I've also become increasingly aware of my own hypocricy when dealing with my anger over whatever new controversy is coming out of the Church. I simply have to ask myself, "are you a saint yet," and every time the answer is "no" I need to remember I have bigger and more urgent problems on my hands than whatever issue the various villians within the Church are causing on any given day.

[@midnight_77]

this is why Brian is the best Catholic content creator

[@AnOpinionatedMan]

Because he hides or is ignorant of the context of the release of this document? He has acted repeatedly like this came out of the blue which it didnt

[@newglof9558]

​@AnOpinionatedMan if nothing else you're living up to your username

[@williampeters9838]

@@AnOpinionatedManI was unaware that avoiding schism meant that you could compromise the authority of scripture. If the council of Trent was a fraction as accommodating as this Vatican I wouldn’t feel the need to be a Lutheran.

[@AnOpinionatedMan]

@williampeters9838 not sure where you think FS comrpomises scripture. Unless you only think it's being true in the portions you take out of context.

[@wpmaguire1]

Excellent stream!!

[@user-us3sv7yw2c]

Couldn't have said it better Brian! God bless you and your family and your work!

[@devonmoreau]

This will be a little lengthy, my apologies. I am a convert to the Catholic faith, I was raised Lutheran, attended a Lutheran university studying theology, Holy scripture, church history, etc. in the pre-seminary program. My studies led me out of protestantism, and I became Eastern Orthodox soon after graduating. About 8 years passed and I met my wife who is Catholic, and also became involved in a new Orthodox western rite mission where we used the Tridentine mass in English. This led me back to my liturgical and cultural heritage, and my wife and I eventually found a very traditional Novus Ordo with an excellent priest, and I decided I could become Catholic. A couple of years later the priest was removed from the parish when parishoners complained to the bishop that he was celebrating the liturgy in too traditional a manner. He was told there was no other church for him despite ours being one of the largest diocese in the country with many vacant parishes, and he and the brothers left. The only other parish I could find that seemed a fit for me was an ICKSP parish, but my wife was clear that she "hated" it because it was in Latin. I've floundered spiritually since then, and seriously considered returning to Orthodoxy, especially since Feducia Suplicans. The pope has formally taught serious error. What does this due to papal infallibility? If it doesn't "qualify", when what does, and how does papal infallibility offer any value to the Church? Where does this leave "clinging to the barque of Peter" if it's literally leading the Church into heresy?

[@pjelpers]

What's the heresy? And please be precise. The document condemns the idea of same sex marriage. It condemns liturgical or ritual blessings, as the German Bishops would have, so this is a direct response to them. I'd ask you to consider that Fudicia Supplicans is trying to walk a fine line of pastoral care for those struggling with same sex attraction yet are open to conversion. As a heterosexual example, if a divorced and remarried couple were considering conversion, I'm sure it'd be difficult to hear that the Church doesn't see their new marriage as valid or sew any sexual activity between them as legitimate. This would surely be a stumbling block for them, and yet the church has called them to a radical conversion and one in which I'd certainly hope a pastor would provide a spontaneous blessing for. Not to legitimize union, but to strengthen and mature the valid portions of the relationship that they do have so as to be strengthened against the invalid. And likewise for 2 same sex people. Paragraph 31 does indeed speak of blessing same sex couples, but don't remove that from context. It also states "recognizing themselves to be destitute and in need of his help-*do not claim a legitimation of their own status*, but who beg that all that is true, good, and humanly valid in their lives and their relationships be enriched, healed, and elevated by the presence of the Holy Spirit."

[@marcmanolache2106]

Come back to Holy Orthodoxy! We’re waiting for you with open arms 🤗. I’m curious though, do you think the Western Rite contributed to you leaving the Church? Would you have become Catholic if you attended a Byzantine church? I’ve heard mixed reviews about the Western Rite so I’d love to get your input.

[@devonmoreau]

@@marcmanolache2106 In my case it did. I came from a western liturgical background which I greatly missed, and reconnecting with it was very meaningful. When I attend a Latin mass I’m nearly brought to tears at the Asperger’s, it’s all something I deeply missed.

[@marcmanolache2106]

@@devonmoreau Thanks for the input!

[@Psalm51.]

I know that it’s better to go to Mass as a couple but would you consider going to the ICKSP by yourself? My brother goes to a Byzantine Catholic Church but my sister in law goes to the Novus Ordo. Are you familiar with Scott Hahn? He goes to the Latin Mass while his wife goes to the Novus Ordo. I hope that you will consider this. God bless you. 🙏

[@rosecotton2991]

Let’s remain faithful to the Catholic Church always and forever, because the Catholic Church is the Body of Christ, the Bride of Christ, and the Lord will never abandon His Church, even in the midst of great tribulations and difficulties! There is no better time to be Catholic than the present moment!

[@robsrob1283]

No better time! I'm with you wholeheartedly on that!

[@ArcanistBlack]

Orthodox>Protestant>Catholic

[@robsrob1283]

@@ArcanistBlack Not exactly sure what that means? 🤔

[@mandefu007]

Brilliant opening pleasantry! Greetings from Newfoundland.

[@mariajosegarciagomez3050]

Excellent video. Thank you.

[@FaithfulComforter]

No! Study Eastern Orthodox Christianity! True Unchanged Church of Christ ☦️. God bless you all RCs and Protestants. May you get to know the true church before it’s too late! 🙏❤️‍🔥

[@cybereye2]

Should never even consider leaving the church. We should join in prayer for Francis

[@ArcanistBlack]

You shouldn't ever leave the church, just leave the papist heresy organization known as the "catholic church".

[@evea9811]

Thank you for the encouraging words, Brian!

[@gregc7517]

Great insight for me to consume on a Sunday AM. I'm not leaving either. What have I done? I have doubled down on my prayers for the clergy top-to-bottom to bring them into the fold and to focus on salvation of souls rather than appeasement of politicians or so-called marginalized segments of society. That latter point is a fallacy as you rightfully pointed out. Anyway, that was a good posting - very good. thank you!