Can I Turn Survival into Creative with Redstone ?

This is my most ambitious project yet, But if I am actually able to achieve it, This will be the greatest storage system ever built.
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[@tststststs-we4cs]

the industrial update

[@september758]

the industrial update and it's consequences

[@marioblock5049]

@@september758 the industrial update and its consequences have been a disaster

[@EchoNovemberDelter]

​@@marioblock5049the industrial update and its consequences have been a disaster for the villager trade

[@anthonyscarfe4853]

The only things missing are the automatic item placer, the items that can’t be gotten from an afk farm and the items that can’t be created via afk with the use of the autocrafter and any linked afk farms. Otherwise you could have a starter afk farm setup that creates an afk factory that creates everything.

[@leonardozayasm.4983]

Next thing is introducing marx and the communist manifesto

[@Monkeylordz88]

This project sounds awesome and I think this is absolutely possible! Good luck!

[@amaryllis0]

The biggest thing detracting this from being survival friendly is not the actual redstone, but the interface! If it's painfully slow to type in and request the specific item type and amount, then it'll never feel better to use than just searching a chest manually. The best way to do it imo is something like Etho's Nexus, where you have chests of items you press Q [Drop item] on to request a stack of that item type

[@iveharzing]

Yeah exactly, I don't want type out the name of each item letter by letter, especially with something like: "Waxed Weathered Cut Copper Stairs"

[@progamingguide]

@@iveharzing he said you could also search by id which is way shorter. Most items have an id of two or three numbers so that should be fine. Pretty sure you can see the id of an item if you have advanced tooltips on, but don't quote me on that.

[@VoidPaul97]

​@progamingguide i.e. ID is the only way of this not being painful, but let's remember it's minecraft; for a sandbox game, this already is revolutionary.

[@amaryllis0]

@@progamingguide Items haven't had numeric IDs since 1.12

[@yunis5097]

Adding the option for programmable Shortcuts could also be helpful

[@davidcastro2346]

I've always thought of something like this in minecraft, my designs were to slow tho. Now that we have a crafter they can be even more complex and cool, looking forward to this man, good luck!!

[@ZephyrysBaum]

*too

[@arvin6883]

@@ZephyrysBaum where would the "too" be?

[@ursamajo.r]

​@@arvin6883 "..my designs were *too* slow tho."

[@arvin6883]

@ursamajo.r oh ok thanks

[@necroscaper]

it helps a whole bunch to code it first! since it is important to encode the recipes and shapes, it may be smart to use memory specific languages like c++ instead of python, but it helps lay the structure of the design out much more. sounds like a massive step for redstone, with a "small" step for redstone kind.

[@jgcodes2020]

As far as I know, most redstone computers are programmed in customized assembly, as writing a backend for a c++ compiler is much harder than writing an assembler

[@DissyFanart]

@@jgcodes2020 yeah at the point where you're doing something like that you might as well just write a custom llvm target then i can compile rust to music disk lel

[@asdfghjklqzwx]

@@DissyFanartmusicdisc.js

[@sylv512]

C would be a lot better

[@ohno5559]

If you need to turn it into machine code by hand anyway, might as well start in assembly

[@NobodyAsked_LND]

If this gets built, it will 100% be one of the most insane projects ever completed. I suggest watching some of mattbattwings videos on computational red stone and cpu stuff, he’s insane at that stuff. Maybe even reach out to him for help, idk. Either way, this would be absolutely insane to see. Btw how are you not a 100k to 1 mil sub channel??? The stuff on this channel is incredible and you are clearly a redstone genius lol

[@user-yd2wm6gt5k]

its...just a memory using...

[@lucky73287]

​@@user-yd2wm6gt5ka system to craft any item in the game with display and item selector is harder than minecraft in minecraft

[@tobycraft9534]

@@user-yd2wm6gt5kyou can use a whole computer with encoders decoder and t flip flops

[@connorburnsrr]

Super excited for this! I'll totally help out where I can with the CPU time permitting - I have experience with hardware design IRL and have also worked on computational projects in MC before too. I've had a similar vision for a while with the Carpet mod autocrafters but never really committed to a large-scale project around it since it wasn't vanilla

[@NitFlickwick]

Good luck! Looking forward to seeing (and maybe building) the result.

[@codevector211]

I have been waiting for someone to make something like this since they announced the auto crafter. Good to see someone is actually taking up the challenge!

[@Forbidden-gaming23]

I would suggest using copper bulbs for the storage and the selection

[@HouseBricksDoor187]

Thank you for your input, I am sure that he wouldn't have figured this out on his own

[@Nae_Ayy]

@@HouseBricksDoor187 You're a dic

[@ChristianGossPlaysGames]

@@HouseBricksDoor187 thank you for your input, your sarcasm is greatly appreciated, we love assholes here.

[@KajtekBeary]

it would be far heavier...

[@witherschat]

Storage? Bad idea. Selection? Amazing way to turn pulses into a binary number.

[@LShropper]

Man. When you used the “start” and “stop” music discs it instantly reminded me of transcription RNA. You essentially created a DNA system of all Minecraft but with 10 based instead of 4. Hopefully that dramatically decreases the number of nucleotides you’ll need!

[@Automationman1]

Just going to say, I am very happy with how quickly this was brought together, and how efficient work has been going.

[@MrKorwaldski]

Yes, me too. I was planning to take a Little break after the video and maybe do some tests. But now there are so many people passionate about the project we've had great discussion lots of progress has been made and I hope to get the server online today.

[@inamecomeunico8935]

Basically applied energistic in vanilla , insane project

[@Greedy-Allay]

Woah, that looks like some crazy complicated redstone! Love it!

[@bladenfolland7286]

Please continue updating us on your ideas, your videos are awesome, its amazing seeing your ideas come to life.

[@theai_1]

You could potentially use powers of 2 for the number of items requested, and make it so that you can select multiple in order to then create any number in a large range with a small interface. Other than that minor thing though, it looks asbolutely insane! Good luck!

[@rioghander2te]

entering a binary number for selection is only intuitive to programmers and shouldn't be used as the only option for a finished product.

[@bazookasniper5167]

​@@rioghander2tethink of it in terms of stacks. 64 = 1 stack 32 = 1/2 16 = 1/4 8 = 1/8 4 = 1/16 2 = 1/32 1 = 1/64

[@jansustar4565]

I disagree. Minecraft is already half binary with stack size of 64. Just reword it in terms of stacks and i think it would be fine

[@theai_1]

@@rioghander2te You wouldnt directly put in a binary number - just flick multiple levers. So we'd have a lever for 1 item, 2 items, 4 items, 8 items, etc. and you'd flick all the levers you need to in order to get the specific size. Because of stack sizes, this would also accomidate full/half/quarter stacks very easily - just 1 lever to select that number

[@rioghander2te]

​@@jansustar4565 yeah, to that extend, I'd put quick selection buttons of "1 shulker box", "1 stack", "1 item" and also give the option of specific input via the numpad. Or maybe have the "shulker box", "stack" and "item" like a unit that you can switch between

[@pedrokotii2417]

It is possible, but your requirements add some extra complexity. You're planning to have one central crafting module, which means that not only you have a bottleneck, but you need to be very mindful of your timings as you will not be able to make full use of crafter's storage feature, instead passing 9 or less items at a time for each craft. If you mistime, game lags, or any chunk unloads unexpectedly, your items will bunch up and the same items will combine, such as cobblestone for dispenser or piston recipe. "Wrong" recipes will also not dispense as normal, so you need to handle the error checking as well at that point.You also still need your system to choose the correct setup to send your items to, as well, because AFAIK the grid blocking can only be done manually and is necessary for basic shaped crafts like torches or doors for example, to say nothing of tools, weapons, armor, stairs, slabs, trapdoors, comparators, repeaters, etc. In dedicated crafting systems, you skip that problem by minimizing the timing dependent components via storing a stack of each stackable component in proper slot within the grid and nonstackable within a dropper as an example so that the hoppers do not need to worry about keeping sequence, just topping up the materials. Very compact versions of craft-storage cells already exist to the point I'd focus on the display, ordering system and the interconnectivity while sorting the items by type (perhaps storing the basic resources further back so that inflow is used to craft first rather than being stored, and it can always be re-added to the pipe) and setting up an infinite loop topping up the lacking components with comparators, filters, water streams and some logic. Probably dolphins too to make sure nothing despawns. Of course, I may be wrong - some amazingly creative redstone projects still baffle me :) I'm looking forward to seeing how you tackle this one!

[@minecraftermad]

copper bulbs allow you to make pretty small programmable multiplexers, which you could probably use to make this whole system work

[@bonecreator_]

Wow this is amazing! I'm excited to see the progress of this :D Good luck have fun!

[@sugus8467]

I've been thinking about a project like this since the crafter went out. Glad someone like you with time, patience and knowledge enough for this had the same idea and decided to share it to everyone.

[@RedstoneHair]

Keep us updated please. This is exactly what I had in mind, combine farms, storage, auto crafting, making one brilliant system. I'd love to see it!! I don't have my laptop rn but I can't wait to have fun with all the new stuff, it really opens a ton of redstone possibilities

[@dillpickle7633]

I've seen a few of your videos now and I'm finally subbing this stuff is really interesting

[@balasark]

I really like how this kind of video gives us something to get exited about and anticipate for the coming months!

[@TitanFearless]

This is amazing. As a fellow farm/storage and redstoner myself, I find this challenge intriguing, and I’d love to see the outcome! Never give up!

[@iancanals2068]

This project sound incredible, can't wait to see it! Good luck!!

[@reedmcgivy]

Happy seeing idea vids like this, it’s fun to see the planning and ideas that go in to early machine plans

[@BakeBakePi]

That's such a cool idea! I can't wait to see the finished project!

[@ryer8477]

keeps us updated from week/month to week/month. THANKS!

[@404maxnotfound]

Oh and with crafters and copper blubs a lot of the "old ways" of memory management might be massively optimized. Like example some folks are doing a binary feedtape using copper bulbs or encoders by crafting unique items like firework stars

[@AutomaticGaming.]

Subbed lets see it, take your time, I can tell its gonna be magical.

[@yiannchrst]

This vision is awesome! I think it will become reality one day, but it will be hard for sure! I just love all the new redstone possibilities we have! Also, I'd prefer some updates midway through the project so that you are not gone for months, but only if that doesn't slow you down too much from actual finishing the thing you are working on.

[@shadowchasernql]

Suggestion! Use octal instead of decimal, it may be somewhat less efficient, but when ROM space is at a premium, not having to cram in a decimal decoder could save you a ton!

[@TheTroll2001]

Good luck with this project, this is quite a sizeable task.

[@koshin_]

This sounds insane! Would love to see updates!

[@ggorg0]

So cool! It will definitely blow up at some point!! As others already suggested, copper bulbs are a good idea for ROM and RAM!

[@EpicGamerProRealisyes3]

That's a great idea, and much better than my random idea of storing the data using the new copper bulbs, as music discs are easier to move and provide more/easier storage.

[@quackcocaine]

you, sir, are insane best of luck with your project

[@nekrugderzweite8298]

that sounds so incredible hummongus. i hope you will pull if off!

[@leonicomil6167]

I bet copper bulbs will be useful for this, especially for memory

[@hex697]

No, that's not likely, music discs have a data density of 2916 bits per block. That's nearly half a kilobyte! A copper bulb stores a singular bit, in other words 1/2916 of the storage of music discs. (The reason for their ridiculous density is each slot stores 0 - 15 so 16 states or 4 bits times 27 because 27 in each shulker, and then 27 shulkers in a barrel)

[@ZephyrysBaum]

It might be laggy with the light updates (I have very basic knowledge on this, and I’m probably wrong, please correct me!)

[@ThinkAboutVic]

@@hex697 they're also a pain in the ass to get using other renamed non-stackable items would be significantly easier in survival

[@mistrzdrewna233]

@@hex697 You have to consider that music disc memory is painfully slow. Too slow for any CPU applications...

[@user-yd2wm6gt5k]

@@mistrzdrewna233 2.5 hz is enough.U cant craft even at that speed.

[@RawrLess]

Yoooo definitely keep us updated. That’s such a meta idea. 👍🏼

[@mrjson3039]

WOW!!!! THIS SOUNDS AMAZING!!! I don't mind the tease of an idea not yet fullfilled. You could even post updates on the different modules.

[@shlokthen]

This is absolutely insane! I would have never imagined anything remotely as complicated as this to be possible

[@TheSecSet]

Wow! This will be amazing. I tried my own simplest version of this and it is horrible because I wanted to make it simple but this more complex version for sure will be extremly useful. I hope you can manage to complete this because It would be amazing!

[@GameJam230]

I've been considering an extremely similar contraption to this since they announced the crafter, and figured signal strength lines would be the best way to go, but I never even considered using record boxes for storage! My idea for how to request items you don't yet have in storage was to use a stack data structure implemented attached to the CPU, letting the system determine each step to get the resulting item. For example, you request a blast furnace, so the system adds that item to the stack. While adding it to the stack, it checks how many blast furnaces are in storage. If none, it returns each item of the recipe to the CPU, which then each get added to the stack, again querying the storage to see how much of those items are available. Maybe it says it has enough iron and smooth stone, so it adds 5 and 3 of each respectively, but it doesn't have enough furnaces, so it adds 1 furnace to the stack, looks for the recipe, adds 8 cobblestone to the stack, and now it simply counts back down the stack, sending the item requests to crafting component in the shapes provided by the recipe storage. So we send cobblestone to it for a furnace, send 5 iron, a furnace, and 3 smooth stone to it for the blast furnace, and then finally pop the last item off the stack, indicating that we can return it. For that approach to work, your stack simply needs to indicate the operand (the item), the instruction (whether to request it from storage, send it to the crafter, return it to the player), and possibly a second operand to indicate the amount of each item, but you COULD also just put it on tbe stack multiple times (but you'd need a MUCH larger stack, so maybe not). You can also largely avoid adding items you already have available to the stack, I mostly just included it to make it clear what it was doing. Really your stack would be more optimized to only have furnace and blast furnace placed on it here.

[@virgurilla4084]

This is insane, and I LOVE using perspective and distant screens to make tiny screens on a small room. This is insane.

[@infinnite4938]

This is crazy cool!!! amazing!!! i hope to see more minecraft technology like computers and stuff, quite interesting!! you seem to have a great future in youtube, youd deserve more subs! also, this would be the pinnacle goal of survival minecraft, reaching as close to creative as possible!! dont forget to use the copper bulb as well! as of writing this you have 19.5k subs and 44mins ago . date is 29th oct 2023 :D

[@WolfiiDog13]

That's one of the first things I thought about when I started interacting with the autocrafter. I think it's definitely possible, but it will be incredibly difficult. Good luck!

[@greenlight9896]

This new block in Minecraft is quite awesome! I'm glad to see people already taking advantage of it! :D

[@Lmnop_137]

This is a crazy awesome idea!!!

[@beastbomber2316]

Good luck. It would probably have to be 16-32 bit. Cant wait to see the final product!

[@Char_lsh]

Crazy! This looks awesome

[@SirNyce]

To select an item, you can consider building a system where the player puts the desired item into a chest, which gets pulled out by a hopper to identify which item you want to craft.

[@Sloimay]

Very awesome project! However I don't think you'll need a CPU for it. Crafting an item is a very well defined list of instructions you need to do, and the order will never change; you can make the build be "CPU-like", but a fully-fledged CPU won't be as useful, and/or will be slower! So I'd recommend just using a frick tons of ROMs generated using the python MCSchematic library, and then use these ROMs for storing every recipe and the item IDs needed etc.. You won't need a CPU to interact with those, just some specific circuits!

[@mochaproduct2869]

Sick vid man🔥🔥

[@literallyaperson7125]

joining the discord to help! this really inspired me

[@MrKorwaldski]

Awesome !

[@ezram.4484]

I am so exited to see how this turns out

[@justonechessguy]

you posed the idea of a shop system using this mega cpu so I think you should create a credit system where the cpu checks your credit status and stuff like that and that. pair this with a minecraft equivalent fiber optic lines M.E.F.O. and item delivery and you could create a world wide storage/crafting center. with locations around the world acting as A.T.M.s. which then means you could use this as a world wide banking system. etc. I could go on and on about this because of how broad the idea is. props to you Mr_Korwaldski.

[@DBDpurekiller]

copper bulbs will revolutionize your CPU processes since its storable bit information. you can convert their binary outputs into anything you want, decimal or hexadecimal. you could probably still use discs to help store information too. i would take the time to look into it as already ive seen people make turning machines just with copper bulbs.

[@connorlawrence5263]

Copper bulbs! They can be used for your actual RAM, all the way up to your displays! Also, crafters can be used with shulkers for lines instead of droppers

[@Blue-706]

This is just Insane can't wait until it's finished 😮

[@dylanoonk6456]

one thing you can do to decrease the number of overall discs needed (and therefore not have to worry about if a disc is farmable or not) is use something like huffman coding to compress the recipes down to much smaller amounts of information

[@adityabadukale6353]

This was what i was kindof imagining to do myself as well, like instead of having the silly craftables items just have the base items and then its just the matter of encoding them in a binary encoder, i am not very far in the project but i managed to encode 50% of the craftables. and ik you can do it waay better than me, and im hoping to see you achieve your goal..

[@KidSavage04]

I have some ideas I think you should make this as big as possible get as much of Redstone KZbinrs on this project as possible including big name this will allow it to reach a wider audience and allow certain KZbinrs to focus on what they're best at and definitely help along its other incredibly lengthy development. My next idea is to be able to use the components independently like just using the smelter or just inputting items in the sorter or running otherwise unrelated calculations on the CPU. I also think this should be called the Creative Mode Computer (CMC)

[@thebergerking1754]

Just a potential idea to make crafting easier. You could use a more universal setup with temporary items (like a named stackable item) instead of blocking slots like how quick carpet crafter was implemented, then a recipe with slots missing would just be encoded with the temporary items then all would be taken out by a hopper/hopper minecart every craft. Could slow it down a bit, but you would need far fewer modules and could duplicate the universal ones if needed. But that's the least of your problems... good luck :)

[@whocares2277]

This is much better than having a crafter for every possible recipe shape I think. If speed is an issue, make parallel crafting units. Or maybe a separate crafting unit for simple recipes that don't need a placeholder item.

[@pedrokotii2417]

Are you suggesting custom sorters for the outflow? Because due to item bunching (hopper/dropper chains, especially on chunk borders) sometimes you will need to also detect that crafter failed to craft and suck up everything that's inside the traditional way. "Wrong" inputs are not ejected, so it only takes one lag spike or partial unload. That machine promises to be huge!

[@whocares2277]

@@pedrokotii2417 I guess you can make an item filter that can be reset automatically. You can unlock normal item filters with a signal from the back, wait until they are empty, then fill them with new items from the side.

[@fireskorpion396]

This sounds AMAZING!!!

[@alecmcfadyen8616]

I’ve always thought a system like this would be amazing especially if certain farms where built around it like a cobble farm and bamboo wood farm allowing for easy mass crafting of certain items

[@vinayak4839]

Keep giving us small updates about ongoing project when you feel comfy

[@theangrypotato2.031]

cant wait to see the sci craft team make this in a few days

[@kinghenry_ix3559]

cant wait for the final product!

[@bluecrystal_7843]

the ultimate storage system, this is going to be interesting seeing how thins project goes

[@dampfwatze]

It would be cool to have predefined item kits, containing a collection of various different items! Full shulkers of one item are cool and all, but most of the time, you need many different items, rather than many items of the same type. You could have one for redstone core components, one for every block, containing all variants of that block, like stairs, slaps, bricks, etc, one for combat and so on!

[@Gio_Panda]

VEEERY excited for this project. I think it'd also be a very good occasion to employ the new copper bulb for dealing with binary data in a simpler (and hopefully faster) way

[@isyoboi2311]

Great project!!

[@MrFiveHimself]

Oh im working on a similar thing right now actually. My system uses a priority system instead of manually selecting inputs. Made it so that you can wall down a giant storage hall and items will automatically craft when the recipe has a high amount of items and the item itself has a low amount of items. My next step is adding an indicator for what chests need to be filled if the system stops.

[@fabianwinter52]

Its the best time ever to get onto this. Copflops and /tick are a gamechanger for vanilla computational redstone.

[@danielvassalo9250]

I had this idea in my mind since day one of the crafter hahaha And I started to work on it yesterday. Hopefully this is achievable!! XD

[@Nyquil98]

your CPU is probably crying just hearing about this project, good luck sounds awesome!

[@migsy1]

This is so awesome!!

[@Sand.]

wow, i love the idea my guy

[@chantylac]

appleid energistics in vanilla ! good luck with hthat !!!

[@oberonpanopticon]

This is the most impressive and ambitious thing I’ve seen since somebody made Minecraft in Minecraft using redstone.

[@Gandhi_Physique]

If you can make this and make it run decently quickly, then more power to you. Would truly be a marvel to witness.

[@name18745]

The birth of crafting tech, it’s beautiful.

[@jankrajewski6170]

5 months into a project: iteration no. 8, my storage system can finally run Doom

[@SuperLlama88888]

Sounds great!

[@larsrademakers6070]

I had the same idea in mind for making the holy grail work, but also have very little experience in cpu, besides basic addition, but if you want to go out of your way to find help, check for the ORE server if you do not know it, they have a bunch of very skilled redstone builders who are purely based on the computational redstone side of minecraft

[@manitshukla568]

This was piterally my first idea when i saw crafters. I would pay for this build

[@51pastis]

We want more video like that Maybe some vlog on the conception of this cpu 😌

[@nosesabe_]

This will definitely be one of the holy grails of redstone

[@lythd]

this sounds awesome! itd be cool if u could set a minimum amount of items that it will automatically fill up with to help with waiting times. like maybe say never have less than 500 pistons, if u need more then ull have to order it like how u described. itd basically just use the cpu to automatically order so it shouldnt be too much work other than having to store these values

[@gruzi.]

so apparently all the crazy german scientist types just flocked to technical minecraft

[@Illogical.]

"storrage" should be "storage". This is a neat idea! I hope it gets developed further.

[@christopheriman4921]

Funny thing is when I saw the crafter announced I also envisioned literally the exact same thing, I have some experience in cpu design but purely dealing with the logic side and not really on timing things so I have a basic understanding that in order to make this I would need 3 things, a general crafter, a redstone computer capable of taking a request for an item and an amount and turning that into a crafting recipe for that item, and an automatic storage system to hook that up to and the biggest issue I have had thus far in making it is literally redstone timings.

[@mossyrocks0340]

Subscribed!

[@ygramul4426]

I actually started building something similar but it is as well thought out as your idea

[@litetix]

gl man

[@eggpusheen1940]

Modded players With AE2 : Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

[@baraapudding]

I love that Minecraft is now slowly becoming Factorio. Now I can repeat all those sleepless nights once again! "The factory must grow".

[@inzenyr1268]

I belive that of simular concepts have beet thaught of and many of them were in the end inpractical. I'm not sure why, but good luck!

[@Sebby0409]

i understood none of this but it all sounds so amazing