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Can kendoka use a KATANA as fast as a shinai?

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Weaponism

Weaponism

Күн бұрын

#katana #hekirekiitsen #kenjutsu

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@davidtitanium22
@davidtitanium22 Жыл бұрын
I tried kendo for a year, and it is really cool how they launch themselves forward and strike in one motion, although really fast, that strike has some of their body weight behind it so it's not a light strike
@trancuong7519
@trancuong7519 Жыл бұрын
look at his arm muscles moving when the video in slow motion. incredible.
@miguelsantamaria8854
@miguelsantamaria8854 Жыл бұрын
i wish my arms where like that
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
This is why kendo does not teach defence, people like this exist who will strike you faster than the human reaction time.
Жыл бұрын
True, in every test I ever tried, my reaction is 220-250ms... this guy hits you in 170ms, thats incredible
@TheWeekendShooter308
@TheWeekendShooter308 Жыл бұрын
Kendo is just 1 part in Kenjutsu if you learn the other parts you will learn perrying and counters as Japanese swordsmanship is not a place for error
@hyc1842
@hyc1842 Жыл бұрын
Who told you that kendo doesn’t teach defense? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoaWpaiMbp2NgsU
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
@@hyc1842 Oji waza look defensive, but the timing only works correctly when you initiate the attack.
@personmcpersonbugersmithpe9494
@personmcpersonbugersmithpe9494 Жыл бұрын
I hate to break it to you guys but strikes like that might not even get through your shirt, let alone skin. A strike with the intent to hurt would take maybe five times as long, depending on the technique and force.
@robertkiss8282
@robertkiss8282 Жыл бұрын
Always love the energy and enthusiasm in these videos. Nice work as always!
@CastIronFist
@CastIronFist Жыл бұрын
He could one shot anyone on earth before they could blink with that training bo-Ken. Legend.
@jash1281
@jash1281 Жыл бұрын
That's quite the bold statement... pro fencers with other weapons exist all around the world, what's your benchmark base ?
@CastIronFist
@CastIronFist Жыл бұрын
@@jash1281 Ah. I didnt actually mean he could defeat anyone in mutual combat. That's different. What I meant was with the force hes generating at the speed hes doing it at, If he hit someone they would be incapacitated before their brain could tell them too react.
@ttchme9816
@ttchme9816 Жыл бұрын
​@@jash1281how do you think Kojiro died?
@thedivineofsin
@thedivineofsin Жыл бұрын
@@ttchme9816wasn’t he caught off guard by musashi’s terrible manners and killed in battle facing an unfamiliar technique that musashi made.
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 Жыл бұрын
So air resistance is balanced out by the weight making them both the same speed. That is a neat little bit of information.
@dramalexi
@dramalexi Жыл бұрын
This is truly amazing. And I really wouldn't want to step up against someone like him. He is like that guy from Sekiro. Jinsuke Saze. The guy in the Ashina Dojo.
@JerryGoNuts
@JerryGoNuts Жыл бұрын
That was very impressive. This is a case where the offense is the defense.
@MegaKnight2012
@MegaKnight2012 Жыл бұрын
Well, I for one wouldn't want to be hit by a katana that fast
@banditoincognito8950
@banditoincognito8950 Жыл бұрын
Insane strength.
@OwOUwUOnO
@OwOUwUOnO Жыл бұрын
I had to rewind so many times, I blinked and missed those strikes. Quite impressed with the amount of power he can unleash with such speed
@hikariizuki1693
@hikariizuki1693 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how fast someone can move with a sword. All I have ever seen is that the tatami cutting, and people doing that always make a big motion and making the move slower. This one I guess is the actual way to use it in a fight, from guarding position to attacking, this is more similar to how medieval sword art practice that I saw. You attack fast and with as little opening as you can.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
A real sword fight would not have been the game of technical prowess that modern competition fencing make it out to be, even those with "historical" in their names. A real sword fight would use real swords with real consequences. What we in kendo call shikai (the four sicknesses): Surprise, Fear, Doubt and Confusion will come to dominate the match moreso than skill, and the one to act without hesitation will likely be the winner. Big techniques are fine when the opponent is paralized with doubt.
@hikariizuki1693
@hikariizuki1693 Жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1 I understand when it comes to competition, especially the one where you need to cut as many tatami mat as you can, then the necessary technique will change. But also, even outside of competition this is the first time I saw someone use katana like this, compared to how many videos out there of people who practice western sword art doing both the practical way they were used, and the way to cut something with big swing. Maybe it's about the culture too, unlike the western who only think of the sword as a tool. Kanata is not only a weapon but a sacred item too, and so people is reluctant to test out the limit of it's use without being disrespectful.
@shadowmancy9183
@shadowmancy9183 Жыл бұрын
@@hikariizuki1693 Eh, those "big swings" are part of how they were used, especially 14th/15th centuries. Light, fast flicks won't get through the base layer of armor, and a friend tested some with a sharp against street clothes, showing that they generally wouldn't even get through that without significant force.
@hikariizuki1693
@hikariizuki1693 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowmancy9183 if your sword can't get through street clothes without significant force, it's either the sword is not sharp enough or the type of sword you use is not optimal for cutting. I won't deny that big swing have their use, but if you know your opponent is using an armor, you wouldn't attack the armor but the gap between the armor. In the first place, a sword is not made to go through strong armor. That's war pick, war hammer, axe and other heavy weapon are for. Sword is used as last resort, not main weapon. The gap you show when you're trying to attack using that big swing will be the end of you if you don't create an opening with those fast strike first.
@shadowmancy9183
@shadowmancy9183 Жыл бұрын
​@@hikariizuki1693 Or, as one of the tests was done with a sword honed to a razor edge, linen fabric is actually pretty cut-resistant, especially when quilted and layered like Kevlar. He tested with European and Japanese weapons, so the "cutting ability" of the weapon made little difference, as he failed at the same fabric thickness. In plate, yes, a sword will not cut through metal, but cutting straps/laces makes armor not as effective and hinders your opponent's ability to fight you. Taking it to practical examples- a slice to the belly as done in kendo won't get through armor, but if you can cut the lacing, then the armor doesn't work as well. The same applies with European armor- if you cut the laces that are keeping my arm harness attached, then the armor will start to move and interfere with my motion. It was also common in Europe to fight with your visor raised to make it easier to see, hear, and breathe in a melee after you've dismounted (voluntarily or otherwise). That's assuming the fast strikes are noticeable by the opponent. I've been hit in the hand hard with a 3lb club and barely noticed it through my gauntlet, though it did knock my strike off target. A light tap will do nothing in this case. You are right that the sword is a sidearm, and generally a lance, hammer, or similar weapon would be the preferred primary, and this holds true for East and West. However, the sword is the equivalent of a pistol in this case, dagger/tanto remaining the last resort. Have you fought in armor of any kind? It's a very informative experience to any weapon art you study. Tangent- my understanding of modern Kendo is that it comes from an 18th or 19th century system, to which the closest European weapon would be the sabre, as the two-handed sword fell almost completely out of use in the 16th century.
@myfavouriteronin9229
@myfavouriteronin9229 Жыл бұрын
Wow , pretty impressive speed and power
@Zerow45yw
@Zerow45yw Жыл бұрын
his forearms are goals wtf
@NeoIntelGore
@NeoIntelGore Жыл бұрын
I did Kendo for a few years and compared to his speed, he would've been done with his taxes while I'm still in the process of hitting the Men.
@eljefeamericano4308
@eljefeamericano4308 Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. Loved the video!
@georgep6495
@georgep6495 11 ай бұрын
The human brain reaction time to a visual stimulus is between 0.15-0.30 sec (00.00.00.150 - 00.00.00.300 with the timekeeping used in the video), and slightly faster to audio stimulus. Meaning these strikes would land dead on your head 0.016 seconds after your brain registered the visual que that he was about to strike you, IF you had among the fastest reaction time a human can have. If you were average, youd be hit before your brain process the visual que that he was about to attack, crazy.
@antemercep8844
@antemercep8844 Жыл бұрын
Never practiced this but always wanted, perhaps being 45 is good age to start 😁 But anyway I remember 25 years ago I saw kendoka mess up kickboxer using umbrella. It was just for fun but the speed and precision was spectacular and I was in awe. Still am, this is really spectacular.
@The_Custos
@The_Custos 18 күн бұрын
Kendo is amazing. I got into it late 30s. Hopefully you give it a go soon. I used to have axes and the like for self-defence, after 10K suburi, the bokuto is good enough. Might get a big meaty club like the show in the video one day.
@CRobinsonpk
@CRobinsonpk Жыл бұрын
always fun watching your videos!
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always fun!
@zerofoxgavin1286
@zerofoxgavin1286 Жыл бұрын
Check out his forearms. He could be using a boat oar and it would still be fast.
@GregoryMom
@GregoryMom Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see that. After all, pretty sure you know what happened the last time someone tried an oar.
@guyblew1733
@guyblew1733 Жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a fun video!
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita Жыл бұрын
How about trying jian vs katana?
@samasensei8592
@samasensei8592 Жыл бұрын
Nearly 100k ! Let’s go !
@takoburito5429
@takoburito5429 Жыл бұрын
So interesting. Thank you.
@NamMonn_
@NamMonn_ Жыл бұрын
That’s a strange looking bokken👀
@darkapostate8358
@darkapostate8358 Жыл бұрын
It is a tsuburito, the added weight is for strength and speed training. They feel quite heavy, particularly after a couple swings.
@NamMonn_
@NamMonn_ Жыл бұрын
@@darkapostate8358 my fat deadass literally read the bokken's name as a burrito 🌯 But thanks for the information🙏
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын
No way! That's awesome.
@heribertohernandez2910
@heribertohernandez2910 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a sword breaker with dull blade of course.
@eastoforion
@eastoforion Жыл бұрын
that dude is jacked holy shit lol
@minhchautran1146
@minhchautran1146 Жыл бұрын
I take aikido and All other martial arts. As yeah I can unsheath a kantana fast and make a clean cut
@marcosyy87
@marcosyy87 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Can you do a "jogo do pau" video if you ever find a master of this portuguese style?
@reginaldooliveira7345
@reginaldooliveira7345 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to be used in the "the walking dead" series to kill and outrun a good amount of zombies!
@christophersantrizos1657
@christophersantrizos1657 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful!!!
@erfanayubi6080
@erfanayubi6080 Жыл бұрын
Amazing kendu warrior ❤️ 💙
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE Жыл бұрын
Nice 👊🏻
@MaraudersWorld
@MaraudersWorld Жыл бұрын
Very cool
@jhl3653
@jhl3653 Жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration of the power of kendo. HOWEVER, the katana shines as a cutting/slicing weapon. While such harrassing strikes to the opponent's wrist and forearm with this kendo movement is perfectly fine (you can also see in the slo-mo that the sword barely came up at all before moving back down) there is still a large difference between "hitting" with the sword and actually "cutting" with the sword.
@nylonandstockinggirls2636
@nylonandstockinggirls2636 Жыл бұрын
There is another video where a kendoka actually cut using kendo's moves : kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnjafGisrKpppKM&ab_channel=Weaponism time code 3:23 Enjoy !
@S.Grenier
@S.Grenier Жыл бұрын
My experience in either kendo or Kenjutsu is absolutely non-existent. But from an HEMA perspective I'm very tempted to say that these strikes would be at the very least completely disabling, and quite possibly fatal. we have these kind of casting cuts in sabre, longsword and other systems, I count them as ending the fight if they land clean, it's probably bad enough that there wouldn't be much afterblow either. But it's always hard to say for sure... no one is going to get out there and put that theory to the test.
@jhl3653
@jhl3653 Жыл бұрын
@@nylonandstockinggirls2636 Yes. As I said, this kind of strike is perfectly valid. All I'm saying is that, to bring out the maximum potential of the katana as a cutting weapon, one needs to actually wield it as such. Chopping with a sword is not the same as cutting in the sense of slicing.
@jhl3653
@jhl3653 Жыл бұрын
@@S.Grenier I agree with you. A strong and rapid chop to the wrist/lower forearm is likely to result in a fracture at minimum. My only point is that the katana is principally a cutting/slicing weapon. The difference is between an attack that disables the wrist vs. one that takes the wrist completely off. This may seem like splitting hairs, but it would be wrong to conclude that a kendoka could actually wield a katana as intended at the same speed as a shinai. In short, can you do certain kendo moves with a katana? Sure. But can you perform kenjutsu moves with a katana at the same speed as you could with a much lighter shinai? No.
@georgyekimov4577
@georgyekimov4577 Жыл бұрын
katanas chop fairly well also at this speed even without a cut it might just break your wrist
@MarshOakDojoTimPruitt
@MarshOakDojoTimPruitt Жыл бұрын
awesome
@robpace881
@robpace881 Жыл бұрын
My guess without seeing the ending is Katana is faster or he is faster with the Katana.
@kdefensemartialarts8097
@kdefensemartialarts8097 Жыл бұрын
Wah
@coderhex1675
@coderhex1675 Жыл бұрын
No matter how you train you cannot do judgment cut as Vergil.
@MaNoTachi
@MaNoTachi Жыл бұрын
Please, can you tell me what do you use to mesure the timing on video ? I need to mesure my own speed. Thanks a lot
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS Жыл бұрын
You can do it by frame analysis. Film a stop clock that's counting, view the footage frame by frame and see how much time has elapsed after one frame, this is your baseline. From there you can film yourself and count the amount of frames it takes you to complete your action/attack (I am unfamiliar with the exact terminology sorry) and using the baseline amount you got from the stopwatch footage, multiply that by the amount of frames and there you go. There are probably better ways of doing this, but this is a method that's simple and doesn't require any additional equipment than what you already likely have (your phone almost certainly has a stopwatch function). Hope this helps!
@hugaremo1997
@hugaremo1997 Жыл бұрын
Use nodachi/odachi please:)
@bangmasse3644
@bangmasse3644 Жыл бұрын
Now search some hma practitioner with same condition. Lets see the result.
@kostaspivoriunas9140
@kostaspivoriunas9140 Жыл бұрын
hello, what is the name of the training katana that is made of steel and is adapted for 1vs1 training? like yours
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
They use rubber katana for sparring.
@jiuweihu
@jiuweihu Жыл бұрын
how fast omgg
@marc5266
@marc5266 Жыл бұрын
Rapide 👏👏👏
@franklfrs1598
@franklfrs1598 Жыл бұрын
The question is stupid in some ways, because the times will be of course the same. However, I bet the katana used this way will never cut an armor (it's just a touch and quite not a cut. Try to cut your steach simply by pressing your knif on it instead of slicing).
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
Swords do pretty poorly against armor in general, which is why most fencing systems represent unarmored duels or small sided street brawls. This same motion could however be used to slip a sword point under a helmet into a vulnerable face or neck.
@drejade7119
@drejade7119 Жыл бұрын
Swords are not meant to be used against armor normally
@franklfrs1598
@franklfrs1598 Жыл бұрын
@@drejade7119 how convenient
@Zxrow_02
@Zxrow_02 Жыл бұрын
Itu lebih mirip seperti teknik ngeplak temen 😂
@Jessicx1
@Jessicx1 Жыл бұрын
100k ✨👁👄👁👍
@tokyo333
@tokyo333 Жыл бұрын
日本刀を使う際に、近代スポーツである剣道の動きではなく、古流剣術の技を使ったら、もっともっと速くなると思いますよ。
@Tkoutlosh
@Tkoutlosh Жыл бұрын
But will this fast move be also strong enough to deliver some damage?
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
They have another video addressing that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnjafGisrKpppKMm22s
@a.lame.username.
@a.lame.username. Жыл бұрын
The faster it is the more kinetic energy.
@Tkoutlosh
@Tkoutlosh Жыл бұрын
@@a.lame.username. It is not only fast cut, but overally fast move, which is not the same. Also, it is fast, but he had the blade pointed forward already so it is still "tapping". You can hurt someone with it, but it is not exactly killing blow and you have to be able to overcome your opponents defense. Which is not always possible just with the speed.
@ultrasuper6353
@ultrasuper6353 Жыл бұрын
@@Tkoutlosh 0:38 take a look at his shinai
@Tkoutlosh
@Tkoutlosh Жыл бұрын
@@ultrasuper6353 Is it broken? Or what?
@toponamikaze942
@toponamikaze942 Жыл бұрын
I'm the 100,000 subscriber 🤯
@dermysticschadow6727
@dermysticschadow6727 Жыл бұрын
Ich habe das Video nicht verstanden.😕😕😕😕😕
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын
But what is the name of that Kendoka :'(
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
They say that his name is Hyun Seung-cheol at 2:14, but this could be a translation error since I cannot find any information about him.
@weaponism
@weaponism Жыл бұрын
www.letskumdo.com/sh_page/player_view.php?pid=69
@Mephiston1984LoD
@Mephiston1984LoD Жыл бұрын
🙂
@lunelie7724
@lunelie7724 Жыл бұрын
He can cut something?
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
The power for this particular strike comes from the feet, so chopping should work fine, but the strike as presented lacks a follow through so it will not cut without modification. They have another video investigating this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnjafGisrKpppKMm22s
@user-gq3jl9nu4p
@user-gq3jl9nu4p Жыл бұрын
Who is this guy
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
현승철, translates as Hyun Seungcheol
@user-gq3jl9nu4p
@user-gq3jl9nu4p Жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1 thanks but i cant find him on social media platforms do you know if he haves any social media?
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
@@user-gq3jl9nu4p I don't believe that I can post website links, but weaponsim replied to a post from 6 days ago a link to his kumdo association page. Hopefully that is enough for you to find it!
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
@@user-gq3jl9nu4p I believe that this video has a link to his dojo in he description kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5axeYd6pcpoorc
@user-gq3jl9nu4p
@user-gq3jl9nu4p Жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1 oh thank you very very much
@jatsantsa
@jatsantsa Жыл бұрын
OK chalange, let him hit with something heaby so se can se what will slow him.
@ArcticGator
@ArcticGator Жыл бұрын
He did though, at the end he used the suburito which averages at about 2-3x's the weight of a steel sword, its used to train the arms, didnt look any slower but that added weight would probably kill you even if you had a helmet on, just breaking your neck or driving the skull downwards which can cause the brainstem to drive up into the brain or detach it.
@jatsantsa
@jatsantsa Жыл бұрын
@@ArcticGator That is not my point, I am intrested where is weight limit for given athelete, where we are able to see slow down. Question is when it becomes too heavy to be noticible, for speed.
@cloudiamadeuro2411
@cloudiamadeuro2411 Жыл бұрын
🙄
@gerardooviedo4145
@gerardooviedo4145 Жыл бұрын
Que chingones son los felicito
@mr31337
@mr31337 Жыл бұрын
Great LARP video!
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that this one was LARP, they didn't seem to be roleplaying.
@thomasdavis3933
@thomasdavis3933 Жыл бұрын
No. Saved you having to watch the video.
@unklmonk651
@unklmonk651 Жыл бұрын
the narrator sounds like the korean englishman....
@howdyfolks5134
@howdyfolks5134 Жыл бұрын
So....like....she single ?
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