Can longboard wheels be TOO BIG?

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@Kufunninapuh 3 ай бұрын

Back in my day the reflex thane was considered unslidable and the classic urethane unracable. It would be really cool to have them compared to popular racing compounds today.

@darianflowers2916 3 ай бұрын

Fuck man we are old I remember this as well.

@mattmann393 3 ай бұрын

Yeah bros it be like that. But we know we've seen some shit 😅

@bennyb.1742 3 ай бұрын

I remember when "Reflex" first came out and the goose honk was unbelievable. Anyone remember Chris Chaput at DB4 running the six wheeler with the pink MoMos? That fucking board weighed like 50lbs.

@PeachNEPTR 3 ай бұрын

Meanwhile at least my experience was the Retro thane was ridiculously grippy until you broke them in and then suddenly they slid out for nothing.

@Gon_Martins 3 ай бұрын

When the Orangatang from Loaded appeared, it was a game changer in some way. We went from drifting through corners to pre-drifting them. The Reflex is really good for gripping, and they are comfortable for slalom, cruising, and downhill courses with fewer slides, and they are longlasting, but for today standards there are much better options.

@reee5159 2 ай бұрын

Dude you easily makes the best and most informative longboard videos out there. Ive been longboarding since i was 15 and am going on 27 and still find useful information in all of your videos. Keep it up man!

@owencampbell777 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@tituslazare2064 3 ай бұрын

4:55 sums up my experience with most of the big abec11 wheels🤣

@fetokun3718 3 ай бұрын

funny, I'm 220+ and it always felt like people's descriptions of wheels didn't quite match my experience. They say "these X big wheels are pretty grippy" and after I try them I think "no they're not, they slide pretty normal"

@NPCOasis 3 ай бұрын

THEY ARE TOO SOFT AND MEANT FOR 130LB SHORTIES...NOT MANY OF US BIGGER PEOPLE DOWNHILL...

@owencampbell777 3 ай бұрын

@NPCOasis Many wheels that are this soft are well suited for heavier riders

@NPCOasis 3 ай бұрын

@@owencampbell777 i dont like softies i think they feel weird and sketchy...80a-83a is the best for all around everyday type of riding.. you start going softer and it feels squishy like your inputs are not as direct, the rebound of the wheels them selves creates instability and input lag that makes it feel strange...i Think if you got used to riding harder wheels you would really be able to tell the difference... More technical "Grip" friction is not always better, the way one rides can create or negate grip.

@RatBürgerSk8 3 ай бұрын

Honestly I've experienced 70mm wide wheels (Biggie Hawgs) which have significantly less grip than round lipped wheels like 78a Raceforms. I think it's because a large contact patch spreads your weight over the width of the wheel too much past a certain point. So while the wider contact increases friction, it reduces the amount of downforce into the wheel lips. Balancing these two factors seems key for a good race wheel. Kinda wish there were more non "race wheel" options for DH wheels nowadays. Most of the stuff coming out is intended to be hyper competitive and grippy, and that's just not what I prioritize when I skate.

@Kufunninapuh 3 ай бұрын

@@RatBürgerSk8 The k rimes come in the ssf I think? Much narrower than magnums for example and a lot less grip I assume without having tried either

@RatBürgerSk8 3 ай бұрын

@@KufunninapuhI've had multiple sets of Krimes but they're pretty lacking in the stopping power department. Works for some people, but they're too slippery to be an "all arounder" type wheel for me. I'm thinking more along the lines of RAD influence James Kelly, Arbor Summit, Cult Death Ray and Gamma Ray, etc. Those wheels were all great for the purpose I described and there's not much to replace them nowadays.

@senefff 3 ай бұрын

Biggie Hawgs in general are plenty grippy especially the larger core ones, I'd argue that 70mm is just right size to be able to engage the lips properly. Also my fav non-race DH wheels next to 71mm s9 race formulas.

@huntergibson9359 3 ай бұрын

cannibals are my preferred open road wheel because they are more forgiving than race wheels but still have much more stopping power than krimes and other freeride wheels. I also love the red krimes for freeride.

@RatBürgerSk8 3 ай бұрын

@@senefffBlue Biggies with the black KMFSU core were my favorite open road DH wheels for a while. But in my experience, 78a round lipped Raceforms have better grip and stopping power. Those 71mm Raceforms in 75a were elite too, but I can't find any more sets anywhere.

@knifejames8163 3 ай бұрын

I couldn't get magnums to work for me until i changed trucks. They suit narrow trucks with spherical ect.

@owencampbell777 3 ай бұрын

That seems to do the trick! I have another wheel I’m reviewing right now that I couldn’t get to engage until I tried them on 100mm trucks

@derowmediataskforce 3 ай бұрын

I’ve ridden a lot of dh wheels kind of starting with the basics and always focusing on shape and slide ablity. Basically, if they had sharp lips and didn’t wash out in corners and were nice smooth predictable slides I was sold. Started out with Otang In heats which rolled great but slid like way to much. Then reflex thane bigzigs and Sector 9 78a raceforms. The raceforms were the most consistent I’d found. Tried some more stuff like seismic speed vents and rad advantages. speed vents were probably the best nimble open road Freeride wheel but kinda slow, the advantages were the perfect in shape and consistency. Since then I’ve tried alphas, Mags and A1’s and as far as a race wheel that could handle open roads, the magnum probably felt the most safe, but took a while to break in to the point where a person at my weight could control it. They were a bit to heavy for my liking though. As for the alphas they were also very slippery right out the gate and had an enormous amount of road dampening which I wasn’t a fan of. I see with my feet sometimes when riding and those left me feeling kind of blind. As for A1’s they are very fast and grippy but I got smoked trying to drift them and they kind of hurt to slide. I think the Mach 1 74a cannibal might be the answer.

@pseudomugilidae5897 3 ай бұрын

I remember having a really hard time with the 75mm monster hawgs on my friend's board. didn't seem to grip as well as my round lip 70mm race forms, nor did they slide as smoothly or predictably. Just really chunky chattery slide way before I expected it. Mostly unrelatedly, but since I learned to slide on round lip race forms, I had a hard time adjusting to slippier round lip freeride wheels like snakes. they just didn't have the edge grip I was used to for gauging when they were gonna let go. I like them now for slower speed stuff, but I still prefer wheels that are a little more communicative for where the edge of traction is. I like my savanna slammas but even find them a little slippy now that they're fully broken in. I'm trying to move towards more DH riding since I have the terrain for that where I live now, but having a hard time finding a transitional wheel towards full DH wheels. I'm trying square lip race forms for now. It's really interesting all the factors that go into how different wheels ride.

@HDDH_Stoked_Hippie 3 ай бұрын

Man that's funny, I skated a lot of runs with you at the spring Maryhill 24

@t0rment411 3 күн бұрын

I got a set of the 83mm big zigs and they still are pretty chattery but because of the narrower contact patch they are surprisingly predictable when paired with my 155mm gen 6's, there are definetly better wheels out there but they are a viable 83mm wheel in my personal opinion, but im easing my way back into DH because I had a nearly fatal fall a year ago, so my gear knowledge is pretty rusty and ldp warped

@owencampbell777 3 күн бұрын

I’d love to try those, thanks for the insight!

@eBoard3R 3 ай бұрын

*Another wheel topic discussion!* 👌🏽⚡️⚡️👌🏽

@NPCOasis 3 ай бұрын

72mm, 54mm contact patch, 83a wheels work great for me and run fast enough for fun rides...

@pkpotate 3 ай бұрын

I wonder if someone built a wheel like this but with a more normal car tire design so the pattern can grab the ground better. I don't know how long it would last but I bet you would get some crazy grip while they lasted

@owencampbell777 3 ай бұрын

Reducing the contact patch with intricate grooves might actually work! That’s an interesting concept

@EverybodyEditsHacks 3 ай бұрын

what about 7 inch pneumatic wheels?

@owencampbell777 3 ай бұрын

Send me a set and I’ll review them, lol

@anotheryoutuber_ 3 ай бұрын

i always prefer a lil drift to maximum grip because it feels more predictable. also, could you do a video on shimming tkp trucks? please

@owencampbell777 3 ай бұрын

Could you elaborate on what you mean by “shimming?” Do you mean wedging?

@anotheryoutuber_ 3 ай бұрын

@@owencampbell777 yes, i do mean, wedging

@owencampbell777 3 ай бұрын

@anotheryoutuber_ it’s the exact same process as wedging with RKP. You don’t have to do anything backwards. Check out downhill254s video on angled risers

@Aminormaze 3 ай бұрын

As a skateboarder I want to try longboard wheels because I love big chonking wheels, but which ones slide the best? So I don’t stick on noseslides and stuff

@cowboy4187 3 ай бұрын

You could try powell dragons, those are pretty hard. Anything under like 90a is going to be difficult for not catching up on stuff when grinding. Maybe powell g slides, but i don't street skate and can't say for sure.