Can Memory DAMAGE Your CPU? - XMP Explained

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Why could using XMP void your CPU warranty?
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[@monabuu]

This car can go 100 MPH!!! (This vehicle is rated for speeds below 15 MPH. The manufacturer is not responsible for the damage caused by high speeds.)

[@macks6234]

Remind me a bit of the german autobahn: you should go 130 at max but you won't be punished if you go faster... unless you cause an accident, then you get a worse sentence than you would if you went under 130.

[@ARTEMISXIX]

@@macks6234 tbh if you cause an accident above 130 you will die so it's alright 😂

[@ikjadoon]

That's genuinely how car warranties work. Your car *can* drive at 120mph, but if you run it at 120mph and then run to your dealer, claiming your tires are getting worn out too fast: "get the fuck out" is what you should expect.

[@Jehty_]

@@ARTEMISXIX is that a joke or are you serious?

[@royisdabest]

@@ARTEMISXIX 130 km/h

[@krishsatpati2476]

*I PAID FOR THE WHOLE RAM, SO I WILL USE THE WHOLE RAM*

[@sopcannon]

eww leave the ram and sheep alone.

[@vitus4514]

@@sopcannon **whole** ram oh, **every** part of it

[@matthew02006]

@@vitus4514 even the horns?

[@MariuszChr]

No problem, just don't use it at high speeds ;p

[@prateekpanwar646]

I think you also paid for Speedo meter and Insurance

[@GreyFox474]

the correct answer to the question "did you use xmp?" when talking to customer support for warrenty is now and forever "I don't know what that is.". Sad reality we live in.

[@TinBryn]

You should answer it with the question "what's XMP?", now you're not technically lying.

[@Sophistry0001]

This right here. Same goes for any other questions they ask about your config. Just say you don't know what that is. You just plugged it in and turned it on.

[@i_am_macgyver84]

@@Sophistry0001 I bricked my 1070 trying to overclock it and told EVGA what I did, and the guy was like "well we don't give out instructions on how to use the software, so it's our fault, here's an RMA" lol but after seeing a few things about this I wouldn't say that to Intel.

[@mynameiszoro]

@@TinBryn whats extreme memory profile? intel: i see.

[@campkira]

this is why i do't diy my own pc for while now... it just waste time and time... just to dea with warrenty and bullshit.. officer that i don't left my brnad new computer without testing it..

[@Dudeinfire99]

Me: *Overclocks RAM RAM: *Warranty Void Me: *Changes back to original factory speeds RAM: *Warranty Regained Edit: Based on True Story

[@Skiman__]

Crazy Techy Kinda similar to iOS jailbreaking xD. You can restore your phone before going to Apple and they’ll service it for you no problemo. But go in with a jailbreak and depending on the rep, they’ll deny service

[@ikjadoon]

Like, really. A good analogy: this "warranty void" also applies to X570 / Z490 motherboards. You touch a multiplier and a voltage? *Fuck* your motherboard warranty. It's gone. Nobody warranties any overclocking. Nobody. Intel also designs K-series CPUs. Does that mean Intel needs to warranty those OC-gone-bad fuckups, too? No. What about AMD's? Unlocked multipliers for everyone = everyone can now void their CPU warranty *together*! Selective outrage, lmao... "but muh RAM!"

[@PrivacyNProgramming]

OH YOU HAVE BROKEN COMPUTER PHYSICS LOL

[@CaptainKenway]

@@ikjadoon Actually, Intel offer an overclocking warranty for $20 that covers you even if you blow up your CPU by sending 2V through it. Nice rant though.

[@Knebebelmeyer]

Me:*overclock the hell out of every part* Ram: *if i get banged, you havent any warranty* Me:*doesnt matter, if you dies i pick my hammer and bang the hell out of you*

[@alexlandherr]

“This Shuttle is rated for an atmospheric entry angle of 6 degrees; anything other than that can be blamed on physics.”.

[@northlandgaming8460]

This mans so serious he ended the sentence twice

[@mynameiszoro]

@@northlandgaming8460 still 40 seconds since you commened but underrated comment man!

[@rubenvanalphen2780]

Manufacturer: "Omg look how fast this brand new ram is we just made!!" People: "runs ram at the advertised speed" Manufacturer: "yOu WeReNt SUpPoSsEd tO dO tHaT"

[@tresnugget]

It's Intel and AMD that voids the CPU warranty not the ram manufacturer voiding the rams warranty

[@ganeshganji3959]

@@tresnugget oooo

[@139_fakhriputramahardika6]

@@tresnugget at least amd still giving higher supported speed

[@CreeperPookie]

Weren't*

[@skill_gamer]

@@CreeperPookie r/woooosh

[@macks6234]

Is it still a lie? Riley: "I don't know." Editor: Y E S

[@TheNillquest]

Is it lie promote something as a feature while it void your warranty? If they lie to take your money, you could lie to get it fixed properly.

[@mahmoudsobhy5843]

Fun fact: Dennis edited the video xd

[@starwarssith]

Tell Obiwan that

[@soroushjm1011]

@@mahmoudsobhy5843 how do you know ?

[@longlivenc7235]

@@TheNillquest No. That's obviously not a lie (bad practice, sure), but even if it was I'm pretty sure Intel doesn't ever advertise XMP above the rated value of the CPU, since they've recently cracked down on motherboard manufacturers who even allow people to overclock above the CPU spec. I'm sure it's people like you that caused them to do so.

[@samtherat6]

Just get RGB RAM to double your performance, easy. No need to overclock.

[@Kreeschon]

Facts

[@techbyjet5000]

Lol

[@ahmadzuhdi4212]

Just download ram. Easy. No problem

[@weetjewatikwil1]

Your comment is out dated

[@chilibiskit14]

Hahaha soooooo funny

[@Dudeinfire99]

Intel: Overclocking will void u'r warranty. Also Intel: *Extra Warranty sold separately*

[@AliciaCLR]

this warranty is not for regular user tbh, this is a very good deal if you into competitive overclocking

[@trn1446]

Intel and AMD: Overclocking will void ur warranty.*

[@rashidisw]

No Obama Care style for CPU insurance?

[@charlesjsescoto]

i asked about overclocking on intel boards community, they did not answer me, what does it mean?

[@ethanchaplin9597]

This isn't apple😂

[@reeven1721]

JEDEC: "You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master."

[@Spark_of_Fate]

"Is it still a lie if you only tell part of the truth?" Giant "YES" in the background had me cracking up. Hilarious that this was mentioned as I was literally arguing with a co-worker about this today.

[@AKaptijn94]

I didn't even notice the 'YES'. Great humor though.

[@Dudeinfire99]

Linus: XMP stands for xtreme memory profile Me: Xtra More Performance

[@jdwmyt]

hey xactly mega power

[@ultraopgamer8076]

eXcellent Motherboard bios Preference.

[@racerberlin5100]

intel: eXtra more money

[@michaeld1879]

Such a timely video after that issue with Gamers Nexus and NZXT BLD regarding XMP voids warrenty. Thankfully, they sorted that out and NZXT changed their stance on the issue.

[@Skradgee]

Riley rockin’ hard with that sleepy new dad look

[@itsdj6956]

This video is perfect timing! i turned on XMP 2 days ago and was wondering why my games kept crashing. looks like you explained why. thank you

[@DeltaStorm27]

What speed was your ram?

[@crimsondevil349]

been quite busy, yet quickbits and tech news always has my time.

[@chrisbauer1925]

I'm not worried about the warranty. The real question is, does running XMP RAM cause any instability on critical hardware where reliability is vital?

[@EvertG8086]

Yes possibly, which is why you shouldn’t run a chip out of spec for mission critical hardware.

[@AlexSchendel]

Also, if you need support from Intel/AMD and you've enabled XMP/DOCP and they want you to send diagnostic data or the like over, be sure to clear the CMOS (or just load factory defaults in BIOS).

[@travispulley8899]

Much appreciation for the visuals of hooking up a nuclear power plant directly to a cpu @3:00 - Thanks for making that.

[@BujuArena]

This is the most useful TechQuickie I've watched in a long time.

[@colin_henry1]

Title then: "Can you overclock your RAM?" title now: "Can memory DAMAGE your CPU?"

[@zomgt3hpoison]

"XMP Profile" Ahh, ATM Machine again.

[@TheMagneticreaper]

my favorite is "personal PC computer"

[@yousifrageh2835]

i really like your way of making a video and how you make if fun yet in the subject, keep up from Egypt

[@nicholaswyke4591]

Riley Is the best, please don't change. I love your humor and the way you explain things.

[@LeBeautiful]

Over clock or not, I wish RAM was downloadable and not physical.

[@yashfiuqesybr]

downloadmoreram.com

[@niels4473]

Downloadmoreram.com

[@Dudeinfire99]

Then people would use pirated Memory. xD

[@jdwmyt]

maybe

[@AwesomeSauce7176]

Bruh

[@DanchyMT]

Buildzoid: sees title Also Buildzoid: *angry noises*

[@angeltzepesh1]

@@lawliot Being honest with how time consuming it is, it's not really worth it to do manual OC for RAM.

[@musek5048]

@@angeltzepesh1 probably why i havent even bothered OC'ing mine, the gains seem marginal at best but some people can see a difference i guess.

[@angeltzepesh1]

@@musek5048 I tried to OC mine, a pair of Corsair LPX 3000Mhz CL15, but after 2 days of errors in memtest i gave up and run them on DOCP settings only. Maybe i could get them better since they are samsung b die, but its not worth it.

[@musek5048]

@@angeltzepesh1 i have samsung b die as well but i got it because i know its reliable as hell. havent tried pushing it farther than 3200 but my pc is blazing fast already so why the hell would i need it any faster?

[@angeltzepesh1]

@@musek5048 exactly my thoughts, is there really a need for a difference of couple of seconds? same reason why i didnt bother to upgrade my SATA SSD's to PCIE. My current plan is to replace all of my HDD with SSD's, now depends what deals i can get for M.2, otherwise i will stick to SATA on those too.

[@zeekjones1]

I see the new boss is workin' ya hard. Be sure to take a nap between episodes. As long as things are taken care of, a short nap for hard work isn't always frowned upon.

[@6.-THE-.1.-BOSS-.9]

I can see/feel this too!

[@Radii_DC]

It feels like watching tech news from super mario. It's wonderful.

[@supercarsnaviation6148]

The reason they called it XMP is when it’s extreme memory profile is because EMP is electro magnetic pul… [cod flashbacks]

[@tmaster928]

Me, who uses his XMP memory for 3 years: -What is this "warranty" thou seakest of?

[@linuxdragon57]

This is the most educational LMG video I have seen in a long time.

[@ugolin07]

Very good video, thanks a lot, regards!!

[@samtherat6]

"Should I overclock my RAM?" Intel and AMD: Yes, but actually no.

[@baishalidas1975]

Real answer: YES OF COURSE *t&c apply

[@DerbyMods]

"Voltage through your ram" Shows CPU

[@jdwmyt]

i dont know anything about computers

[@ogbogb10z]

Probably meant memory controller (that is located inside the cpu)

[@UsmanSaleemSulehri]

This comment is dumb.

[@DerbyMods]

Usman Saleem sure thing

[@DerbyMods]

yair ohana gilad makes sense lol

[@akashsahoo9343]

There isn't a single video thta isn't sponsored. Nice!👍

[@squallneko5004]

Thanks for the tech tips. Oh it is nice to see him without his glasses I have seen him wear in the past. Must switched to contacts.

[@deadchannel5933]

I have an off-topic question, tho: What is the first thing that a hard DISK drive does/looks for when it's started up? I've seen that hdds usually stay with the head near the spindle/(rotator thing) for a few seconds at startup and then it continues the rest... Do hdds first look at the file allocation table when started up?

[@bigdoggo5827]

Maybe their cache and start going through the table of directions trying to read the operative system parts

[@coreys2686]

You'd think they'd have something in BIOS/UEFI that limits/locks the RAM clock to the CPU memory controller. How hard is it to do that?

[@zeekmx1970]

No wonder I already clicked the subscribe button, I can see now you're the brains around here.

[@MrReese]

Look in the QVL lists of the mainboard and the RAM on the respective websites to check whether or not the RAM speed is supported. For example, Z170 only goes up to 3466 MHz.

[@MuffinOrama]

It took this video for me to realize why they avoided calling extreme memory profile EMP mode

[@thepianoaddict]

0:44 Ah yes, the XMP profile, or eXtreme Memory Profile Profile...

[@Useless_Rift]

Ahh yes EMP Pulse (Electro-Magnetic Pulse Pulse), DC Comics (Detective Comics Comics

[@andysmith5464]

@@Useless_Rift 😂😂

[@antiseth3964]

Riley looking as fresh as when Geordi LaForge got the cyber eyes in Star Trek First Contact.

[@CACOE_]

Lt Dan you got new eyes

[@AndrewMcDreamy]

Love this Riley dude.

[@robin1987100]

This, indeed, was a bit of a surprise recently. After enabling AMD's flavor of xmp the system wouldn't even boot in to the 'bios' anymore, that was greeeeat. In the process I learned way more about memory latency then I would have liked. Took some attempts to get it going. Later a bios update became available, with that updated it did run fine at the default 'xmp' profile. Looking the qualified vendor list would have prevented this.

[@ferrelagrios8199]

I’m just really really glad a good friend of mine warned me of the qvl and the issues that comes with ram and cpu in the board. I hope more people who are new like me who wants to build the pc on their own will see this post. People Look for the QVL for you board, find RAM that supports both the board and the CPU series

[@maerklinistkaize4460]

the last time i was so early i had no idea what shortcircuit is

[@andysmith5464]

It's a movie right?

[@petenielsen6683]

AMD not only honored the warranty on my FX 8350 in spite of bent pins even though the RMA page said it would not, but they also sent me a stock cooler even though they said they would not. But I didn't even remember to consider what that processor's spec was for max memory speed.

[@jesuscarriontiscar5539]

Bro, at 1:28 I was gonna google my CPU but then I realised it's the same one you showed!! 🤯

[@Danny_Aniss]

So you went with this color grading huh! WE DEMAND LESS SATURATED RILEY

[@jdwmyt]

do you know the wae?

[@melaniejason3912]

WE DEMAND LESS CLOTHED RILEY TOO

[@verdigris1457]

@@melaniejason3912 spicy

[@melaniejason3912]

@@verdigris1457 very

[@alireza-mv3jh]

Just take out the motherboard's cmos battery and it'd just go to the default settings and then go for the warranty and if they asked just say "What is XMP?"

[@GoldSrc_]

"seamoss" lol.

[@mastervorn6380]

Riley you are the man! Whenever he is on, Techquickie, Techlinked, Technews, 400 more Linus monopoly channels I have to watch. James is a close second 😉

[@WigglyWings]

That 'YES' was subtle.

[@DuaLL1337]

It doesn't matter if you use 3200mhz memory with XMP, because a human eye can only see 256gb ssd

[@christopher9692]

I need to overclock my life.

[@pierreuntel1970]

Just turn your alarm faster an hour or two

[@LuisC7]

Listen to Dasand Rudestorm, then.

[@firstnamethenalastname]

do meth

[@pickletehdromer]

lttstore.com

[@Vandil_the_Rogue]

I hear the human malware causes a mean overclock in some users

[@PowerTrain]

Somewhat similar how phones brag water resistance but don't cover it in warranty

[@VenomFirework]

0:08 im liking the looks of that reality tbh

[@aakarsh1280]

Me: *Overclocks RAM* Intel: *i9-10900K - Warranty Void!* Ideally: Me: *Fries i9-10900K after 1 Year Warranty* Also me: *Underclocks RAM* Intel: *You weren't supposed to do that.*

[@tresnugget]

My binned and delidded 10900K was void before it even got to me.

[@hopey1809]

wrong the Intel 10900k is an unlocked CPU valid to OC.

[@StolenJoker84]

hopey1809 I think you missed the point of this whole video. Yes, the K series Intel chips are unlocked. The point of this video was to point out that by overclocking any part of the CPU (XMP is essentially overclocking the memory controller on the CPU die), then you are voiding the warranty - especially so if you run the memory higher than the spec sheet for the CPU.

[@hopey1809]

@@StolenJoker84 i know. But the comment pun isn't working like that

[@tresnugget]

@@hopey1809 what pun?

[@maz4725]

What I like about this dude is that his moustache looks like an upper lip of his upper lip

[@samisalemal-juhani8940]

it's kinda a cute thing I guess🙃

[@henrirobbins4526]

the burger on the right at 0:10 probably tastes waaay better than the one on the left

[@masiosareanivdelarev562]

Good information.

[@AntExe-ey5my]

I vote Riley and James for a stand-up comedy duo as an LTX (from the studio) event.

[@kishorkanna5718]

The real question which no one addressed is: *”Should you download more ram?”*

[@kishorkanna5718]

☝️You know where this is gonna go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moLaZapvjMyLmbM

[@aashiq7152]

Yes should try it bro If you succeced please take a min to inform me BEST OF LUCK

[@zachf9187]

👍Whenever my computer is running slow I just download a new 32 GB kit and I'm back to blazin.

[@kishorkanna5718]

😂😂 I can’t wait for that one kid, who going to say that it worked!! 😂

[@aashiq7152]

@@zachf9187 oh yeah baby....

[@frisk8550]

You should hire this guy LTT

[@sp0tb11m]

If you're really worried about running overclocked RAM, just check the maximum voltage of the CPU and buy overclocked memory with an XMP profile that doesn't require more than that voltage to run. That's what I did with my i7-4790K finding DDR3-2133 memory that only required 1.50 voltage.

[@ChessCat1500]

I did this with my cat and now it's a tiger... Not recommend

[@beware_the_moose]

Yeah this is like sony supporting custom android roms, then refusing me a hardware fix because I'd installed said custom android rom. I bear very long grudges.

[@ryanwallace983]

You and me both-I still swear off Samsung products

[@royisdabest]

if you want a reputable android brand, i think lg is a good way to go. samsung is digging themselves in a ditch rn (plastic note 20, im using a s10+) and sony doesnt know what they are doing with their aspect ratios. oneplus is alright too

[@arunnatarajan5623]

@@royisdabest typing this on a oneplus 8. Solid phone, good support and they actually encourage custom roms. It doent void your warranty. The OnePlus 1 got Android 10 the other day through lineage os

[@tresnugget]

All of those phone warranties with custom ROMs have to be able to be reversed. They never supported custom ROMs, they just wouldn't void your warranty as long as you reflashed their firmware before sending back your device. The problem lies in if your phone bricks with a custom rom then you're pretty much screwed.

[@beware_the_moose]

@@tresnugget wasnt even that, I flashed it back but they could still tell I'd unlocked the bootloader. On top of refusing to fix the broken power switch they had the cheek to charge me £15 to ship the phone back, I forgot about that part. I'm getting annoyed again.

[@rmpll]

Love the Powerfull FormulanToilet Cleaner.

[@kentosalazar]

i dont even understand what he’s talking about but these are fun to watch!

[@katherinemorton9126]

Original title: You Should NOT Overclock Your RAM?

[@HeenaPatel253]

Katherine Morton yup

[@DakinRinone]

I feel like they are training him (personality wise) to be linus lol.

[@Cernunn0s90]

Norwegian consumer laws: Product advertises overclocking, therefore warranty must cover overclocking.

[@omkarnaik2758]

I was about to boost my ram above my CPU's spec memory. Thnx for saving me.

[@bankuz_4690]

Yus....first comment again!

[@caffexd]

You must be working with Linus 😤

[@TheGamingSharieff]

Literally the 1% people who’s reading... May your parents Live More Than 100 years with good health 🙏

[@chrisholland]

Rileys got the lipstick going strong today!

[@naeem8434]

Amazing video

[@firestormsentry80]

How long before we can buy our "Techquickie 'til the End of Time" official t-shirts and merch?

[@tresnugget]

In most cases I believe enabling xmp shouldn't void your warranty, however there are those insane kits that do like 4600 MHz and motherboards will throw insane voltages to the vccsa and vccio like 1.5v.

[@Vytautas4Xfiles]

Love the way this guy talks and his character 👍👍

[@Stennishh]

I got an ad before the video started with linus in it lol

[@supaapple]

#2 is incorrect because, as you said, the IMC is on the CPU. So overclocked RAM is still sending more voltage to the CPU which is considered overclocking, even if the amount is negligible.

[@McMasterProGenius]

3:02 "Putting too much voltage in ur RAM" Unexperienced PC USER: *OOOH Ur Ram Square? Mine Rectangle!*

[@accuracy544]

can you do a video on the different chipsets and the differences between them please

[@louiefriesen]

When my PC/Hackintosh wasn't booting, I had to reset the CMOS (which also reset the BIOS), so now I'm in macOS and I forgot to turn on XMP, so my 3600MHz memory is only running at 2133MHz

[@WuFluChan]

I have 4600 but have always ran it at 4000 because I can get some insanely tight timings, seems to work better than very loose at 4600

[@norm1233]

Yup..... Intel denied my warranty on a 8700k due to running memory at 3000mhz on a 3400mhz kit.... I said I didn't bump it up but they were able to find out and were spot on...

[@fullstack5461]

A lot of these issues seems to be with people over clocking. If you want more speed just buy something faster by default

[@mins_982]

Yes that riley boi is back

[@niko1even]

My laptop comes with 2666 DDR4 Ram, and the 10th gen intel CPU’s support 2933MHz ram, so I overclocked it to 2933 via the BIOS. I have not regretted doing it ever since. Do not be afraid to overclock your RAM guys, it is not dangerous as long as you don’t mess with the voltage.

[@ChicGeekette]

3:45 [The Felis Catus dialect is heard]

[@dan_cambo.chefdannn2577]

Anyone else think he sounds like Ron burgundy off anchorman haha "I'm ron burgundy u stay classy san diego"

[@patrickmahon3476]

I fried my 1st not-used motherboard from overclocking. (Thought I had killed my ram, bought more... and it still didn't work) A few adventures after that... I swore off overclocking. Maybe on an old PC for fun. But if I NEED to for my daily driver/gamer... then it's time to save for anew parts.

[@Starfals]

Whaat? So when i upgrade next year.. my ram might be slower than what the ram speed was on the store's website? hmmm.

[@ImperialDiecast]

How can you check if your ram frequency is fully enabled or is being artificially limited?

[@AceStrife]

Yes, it can. Because running fast memory 'over spec' (2800MHz, CL16) damaged the IMC on my 5930K. *Three times.* Three separate CPUs. Eventually the 4th RMA Intel refunded me outright and I bought a 6850K to replace it and never had a problem again. Wish we could go back to simpler times.

[@832elf]

great video. I don't game, but I'm looking for a trading laptop. Would you suggest ryzen 5 or 7? also does the graphics card really matter, 1650 ti or a 2060 or is it more important to have 16 gigs of RAM or 24 g b rather than a powerful graphics card for trading? looking at the legion 5 but it's only a ryzen 5 Thanks for your help

[@Qaxalvr]

my 2600k is still running @4.4Ghz on a 1867MHz XMP profile in extreme phase mode (since 2011)

[@AranakAsulis]

They probably void the warranty because overclocking the RAM is actually overclocking the CPU, because the memory controller is physically on the CPU and XMP or DOCP draws more voltage through that controller. I've had 1 Ryzen 3200G burn out from this. It was fine for a Ryzen 1200, two ryzen 5 2600, and a ryzen 7 1700.

[@blaegme]

For quick set features it should make it obvious when you are selecting a setting that might cause an issue such as voiding a warranty. Bios should be able to tell what memory speed range the CPU is looking for and help keep the user informed. Doing otherwise is poor design at best.

[@scurvy786]

Funny thing is i have the exact same sticks of ripjaws with same speed and timings used for the image at the start of this video and in 3 diff systems they wont run at the advertised speed haha