Can MOOG convince me to get into MODULAR Synths? | haQ attaQ

[@joeboygsxr]

Aw man, this vid made me so happy, best TSR vid I've seen. You would have lost it with a little splash of reverb, I would have too. With these things it's all about the connection with the instrument.

[@JakobHaq]

I knew that ending would put a smile on your face man! 👊🏼

[@devonclements1624]

Jakob Haq zh

[@strangersun7721]

I come back to this video every now and again. They are great instruments, but something about Jakob's approach to learning more about them and Jim's earnestness is so appealing.

[@daikuone]

Finally! Someone does a gradual demo that helps newcomers understand modular. Thanks 🙏 Jim from Moog and Jakob from Haq Attack !

[@scottsweatshirt9753]

Let me tell you something: I am a lifelong guitar player who has just gotten into the synthesis scene in the past year. I have acquired a mix of keyboard-based and semimodular Moog gear, FOR the specific reason that it is very tactile, hands-on, and interactive/intuitive to use (with essentially limitless possibilities as you learn more about the kit and how the various components work and generate sound). Having said that, one observation I have of this scene, in general, is how supportive it is, and this video is a perfect reflection of that. The synthesizer and electronic music community seems to be just that: a community. I really appreciate it. Thank you for reading my comment.

[@calderwood9641]

I also had a smirk on my face this entire video. One of favorite videos to come out of this event. Mad props to being open to new experiences.

[@exitritual]

I knew you'd have a great time there despite your pre-event worries. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@udw.boicot]

This chronicles are getting so good! I laugh, learn and get touched at the same time! And always being completely sincere! Thanks Jakob!

[@markusfuller]

nice video Jakob. I love wandering through the infinite and inspirational sounds you can create on a moog modular.

[@JakobHaq]

Hi Marcus! 😊 Yeah I really want to get back into this now. Maybe not fully Eurorack modular, but I’m absolutely getting myself a semi-modular one ... or two eh 😅👍🏼

[@t-GiG]

Wow, Jim is an excellent teacher! Bravo.

[@MrHihowryou]

The moment of pure bliss was just that. Best part of the video.

[@jexmartinez9343]

Mannn … what an awesome way to start a Monday. So inspiring. Awesome video. Congratulations to both of you. ❤

[@JakobHaq]

I’m quite fond of this meeting myself. Jim has such a lovely personality and a lot of what we talked about (both during and after the recording session) planted a little seed in my head. I realised that I had been looking at modular in “the wrong way” at least “wrong” for me. See, I stopped using modular synth many years ago due to me getting tired of patching. Now this was back in 2019, fast forward to 2023 and I’m making a plan for building my own Eurorack system. Fast forward to Feb 2024 and I’m only a few modules away of having a full 88HP 2 rail system. 😂

[@EsseaMusic]

Best demo and explanation of the dfam and m32 link I’ve seen, great stuff

[@bioburden]

Thank you for a great video, I'm the same as you when it comes to modular synths, so having someone walk through the process, features and benefits was really awesome. Great explanations too. Many thanks to you both.

[@zmarkgraf]

the relationship between the m32 and dfam is such a bizarre one, and his work with it totally exemplifies it. Goosebump material in a big way. Your reaction and even Jim's looks like you both were in awe of the power of these/analog synthesis in general. you said it yourself, that was a performance, and a fucking emotional one at that. big like, big subscribe, nice work

[@SynthsandSounds]

Watching a person fall in love is a beautiful thing. I can feel you so much, I once fell deeply in love with a semi-modular behringer neutron when I met it

[@puntig.1187]

Just an awesome video! I keep coming back to this and it brings an instant smile to my face... Reminds me of why I love my Mother-32 and DFAM. If it didn't convince you, I have to be honest that this video at least contributed a little bit to me pulling the plug on the Mother.

[@lesonkitu1]

The track he made could be a Radio head composition. I can almost hear lead singer mumbling about.... just beautiful.

[@DivKid]

Nice development of a patch, nice development of Jakob fighting back the joy inside of him to plug in some cables again. Great video! :)

[@JakobHaq]

Hey man! 👊🏼 Jim did a really good job here. What a great guy he is!

[@lorenzolavagna]

Wow, seeing two people connecting through such beautiful music… wow. That was so emotional

[@tuomaslaine4393]

Oh my lord Jim really gave an example of how to present a product. Very clear explanations at the same time while casually building a patch that gave me chills. Excellent job. Peace and love❤️✌️

[@joeboygsxr]

Loved this, love the DFAM, absolute techno machine

[@aikighost]

Jakob is a iOS guy and now we have Ruismaker NOIR on there which is a VERY similar beast except with patch recall :)

[@valdiskrebs566]

So yesterday, in AUM, I had 2 Moog Model 15s running two sequences and I was playing lead with a Moog Mini Model D. Each synth had a preset that I had customized - one was even poly! I saved it all and opened it up today, just like I had left it. All in a 1 pound device of glass and aluminum. No Polaroids required!

[@VictorSteiner]

That app made me get into modular and still I wonder how most of the very unusual preset sounds are created ... even after two years with a lot of sounds I have 0 clue ... I tried to reverse-understand some by unplugging cables, but wow .... those are a work of art.

[@valdiskrebs566]

If you have an iPad and want to experiment with “cables”, get Ripplemaker - a fun and easy place to start. RM saves your sound and sequence settings, no Polaroids! BTW, Ripplemaker is like a “west coast” synth (Buchla) ... not your typical subtractive synth (“east coast” - Moog).

[@VictorSteiner]

@@valdiskrebs566 Thanks, I know all the basics for 2 years now, it is just that from very normal "boring" sounding oscillators ... the sounds produced by the model 15 presets are so far away from that like ghostly winds or chimes, I think I will never understand how to get those out of modular :)

[@EnriquePage91]

You can pretty much Frankenstein the fuck out of music on iOS nowadays 😂👌🏼

[@cemolcay]

omg man, this is the best video for the moog semi-modular family, I'm fully blown away. Apparently, I'm going to start saving money for M32+DFAM combo.

[@cytone101]

Really interesting. This is the best presentation of the advantages of modular I’ve watched. I moved to an iPad to get more creativity with audio apps but now I’m tempted to just go for a minimal setup like this. Those Moogs sound gorgeous.

[@stevetodnem3195]

You can see it in Jakob's eyes, he just got Mooged.

[@ericclinton7399]

I was thinking that he was outlining his phone call to Kai, in his head, to tell him his latest idea about changes to the matrix in the Agonizer, which was about a year away from being released, to allow it to run like that . Ie the wave shape blends in conjunction with the CV blend and all the different combos of sources you can use to modulate those

[@Towy2012]

For me as a beginner this video is by far one of the best if not the best I've seen (and I tried to see a lot). I wonder that I couldn't find more tutorials or videos coming from Jim. He is such an excellent teacher - I would highly appreciate to see more videos. Are there any?

[@ConwayBob]

Thank you, Jakob and Jim, for this great video. Huge thanks also to Bob Moog and those carrying on his legacy. A huge thank you also to Thomman for hosting this amazing event. Have seen a number of super videos coming out of Thoman Synth Reactor featuring people I've admired for a long time as individual artists interacting with one another in exciting ways. Thank you all!

[@MrAlmostFly]

Incredible performance! good coverage Jakob.

[@sonorstudio1]

Best modular lesson that makes sence ! Thanks

[@5stringaustin]

LOVE this video. I think one of my favorite things ever is watching someone gain appreciation for something in front of your eyes. SO good. ❤️❤️❤️

[@PeterPrism]

Out of space... this thing HITS DEEPLY

[@SimonTheMagpie]

“Thats probably because Im part clingon” 😂😂😂😂 omg that caught me off guard!! Put that on a t-shirt god dammit

[@JakobHaq]

💋

[@syrupcore]

+1. Good jokes are impressive. Good jokes in a second language? Dayyyyyum.

[@kabood777]

I loved and liked and commented on this video as it came out, the funny thing is I came back to it today about a month later ... man, there is really something haunting and beautiful about this patch here ... Jakob thank you again for sharing the experience with us.

[@jewe321]

Thanks Jakob for this great vid, which gave me a complete new understanding of what Mother and DFAM together can do! I will definitely try out some of the patches at home. Imagine the infinite possibilities when combining these two unites with a Moog Subharmonicon! But alas, I guess this will never happen.

[@byAndreasEkberg]

This is one the good ones Jakob! ; ) Can see you got totally trollbunden :D!! Super nice tune in the end! :D

[@jakobsweet5219]

hey man awesome video. What an unbelievable synth performance and i espeically like the part where we spell our names the same way

[@markusklauser5812]

So good to see you enjoying this event! Can’t wait to see more of it! And get yourself something with a patchbay, you almost looked like being in love 😍

[@messupfreq550]

This is an area I am fascinated by... agree can tweak & patch into some awesome tones but also agree it is nicer to save presets quickly for the iOS portability and my couch composing. On the patch side, it will never crash and all the cables disappear, or run out of CPU headroom or RAM space and suddenly start sounding quirky. Anyway... excellent food for thought and way to better learn & understand sound design. Many thanks!

[@sudbenzer6603]

what a good explanation for module synthesis. props to the moog-dude! good video!

Ok you've sold me that little beast.. i was find with my studio but now i need this so bad :D

[@kabood777]

this was really beautiful, thank you guys .

[@j-ltekbrain2177]

Actually one of the greatest videos ever about the philosophy of modular synthesis.

[@FishfaceFP]

Love this, i got into modular purely through curiosity and i love the direct no frills process of creation for no other reason than i like to fiddle.

[@JohnBack]

Brilliant Jakob... so happy to share that experience.

[@brian2590]

Awesome video Jakob. I am not an iOS user but still enjoy these videos. There is something to physical connections and not having blue light in your face. Modular synths and conventional instruments will work longer than any computer will. Hardware will always work as is and one does not have to worry about decisions a company or programmer makes that may impact creative flow. Dedicated hardware is almost always predictable and almost always repairable. I am a self employed programmer and spend 12 hours a day in front of a screen, this has been my life for the past 8 years. before that i was a traveling street musician for almost a decade and had the opportunity to improv with hundreds of musicians. messing around with apps does not create the magical feeling for me. I write patches for pure data and max msp but i feel im doing more sound modeling than composing. recently I have started making my own custom hardware midi controllers because all the blue light exposure is getting toxic. Sometimes it's healthy to just turn off the screens.

[@SoundsAndGear]

Hahahahah great vid bro, I see you trying to fight it lol. Jim had a good vibe going too!

[@JakobHaq]

Yeah he did a great job, real ace!

[@OttosTheName]

Is that the Robin S - Show Me Love bassline at the start? And great Demo. I just bought a competing semi modular, but these Moogs are getting more and more interesting too...

[@plucollective604]

I like how the sounds evolved and interacted with each other which appeals to me a lot more than just listening to traditional scales and notes all the time. I really do like the feel of the knobs on the Moog synths which seems to be a tighter level of feedback and control than what I have experienced on an iPad.

[@dafingaz]

Modular patching is a foreign language to me. But for those interested, check out Junkie XL’s modular wall performance (FYI it took him a week to figure out the settings and patching for this performance): kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppWVoJeYh52HeJY

[@memorypalace8009]

Really great video...

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

I am Dutch and pronunciate it as in school, pool, drool, you get the idea. Bob being of Dutch origin make me feel proud (as well as owning two Moowgs). There is a Dutch saying: You can't have enough Moogs :)

[@HousePlant_Ambient]

haha, love his genuine expression, I was pleased by what he created in the beginning, it reminded me of Death Stranding for some odd reason...

[@AlexandreLeroux]

Another great video Jakob! Thanks :-) With the time I have, I want instant fun, and to me, that means presets! I love modulars, but as Apps that I can connect to my midi gear. And it’s through this midi gear that I have my physical relation with the instrument, not directly through the knobs. So I’m not convinced yet either Jakob! Useful video for sure (hey, I even met Jim in person at Moogfest and played real Model 15s there :-) Cheers!

[@Sklang32]

Dude, DO EEET! I see your face looking all excited like a kid on X-Mess! DO EET!!!

[@JayTheLane]

When I create music I get like you Jakob. Almost transfixed in the moment of beauty. Imagine wacking that through Soundtoys Echo Boy or something 😍 Thanks for the inspiration as always 👍🏻

[@AM-ui9mc]

Great video!

[@paradiddle16]

hahaha that moment around 32:20 is hilarious.

[@gyzzgyzz8353]

if Thomann's synth reactor with their 25 youtubers in one place had a concert of those said youtubers, that would be a great thing, tens of thousands would pay a ticket to see that. i would..

[@compfox]

What was the relationship between Robert Moog and his Mother(s) like ?

[@ConwayBob]

There had to be great affection there. Moog was an inventor and all good inventions require good mothers. It's a basic necessity.

[@blkrbbt]

I remember the original before the cut at 3:40. Prob a bit too spicy for a sponsored video.

[@hujuu]

Personally .... full-blown spaghetti-level spaceship-control-panel modular = hell. A couple of semi-modulars on a desktop = heaven.

[@MatthewJohnCrittenden]

Get yourself a copy of VCV Rack and enjoy the comforts of presets, etc. Sure it isn’t the same sonically or as “hands on” but it’s fun and free (unless you want to support the devs, which I do). Good to watch your reaction here, it’s a slippery slope ...

[@ConwayBob]

VCV Rack is the most painless way to get into modular that I've ever seen, and it WILL keep you absorbed for hours and hours if you give your imagination free range. But oh, those lovely little Moog semi-modular boxes. How can a sentient being not fall in love with them?

[@hoppy303]

The best part of this video is from 0:00 to 33:47

[@noistromo]

Awesome! :) I hope that finaly you will get some modular synth :D Will be great to check the patching and knobs setup of this, maybe Jim could post it somewhere ?

[@AndyChannelle]

I bought a Volca modular a couple of weeks ago to experiment, and I also bought Ripplemaker for my iPad. So far, I've had some fun with the Volca, but not really got anything musical from it. Ripplemaker has given me better results so far, and obviously it was £170 cheaper. It''s cool to try things, but I'm glad the Volca wasn't hideously expensive.

[@azieser]

I always suspected some Klingon in you Jakob! Excellent video!

[@polypolbeatz3212]

The best video so far from this conference I like modular and love Moog but im wondering from this performance how does it translate to trap

[@macronencer]

Loved watching this, but the out-of-sync synth audio bothered the hell out of me. We kept hearing stuff change almost a second before Jim took an action in the video! Anyone else?

[@mrfett]

holy shit this is cool!

[@markquavertune2003]

At first modular seemed far off and away to my capacity to do know what to do .I have been practising with software modular and am very surprised .I will one day transition to hardware .

[@Dogboy73]

This just makes me want a DFAM even more ..... again! 😉

[@fimkatube]

Jim and Jakob the meeting of the artists duo. You should produce an album together.

[@steventaylor3789]

Awesome.

[@Nokanmusic]

Jim convinced me.

[@aber3724]

I started digital. Now I’m getting into analog. Both are great. I would get this or the Moog mother

[@TheAudioDabbler]

See, I think the beauty of modular is patching it and creating an evolving sound over time. I could see myself, hitting record and just getting lost patching for a few hours. Not really sure what will happen. You don't get a modular because you want to save a patch. You get a modular to play and jam. Maybe I would compare a modular synth with patch bays like a guitar, drums, or any other physical instrument where you have to play or modulate your fingers/arms to make sounds. Modular seems to be a more playable instrument than say just setting up a sequence. Now I want a modular!!!!!!!!!

[@jml19221]

Modular seems like a lot of work to get sounds that you would get w/o patching on other analog synths.

[@x-iso]

Modular is a journey when you don't have anything specific on mind and just want to explore the possibilities beyond standard routings and get inspired once you find some gems out of the process. But in this day and age you can really do it virtually, although non analog sound. I think the future of HW modules is having digital control for CV I/O for the whole bus of modules. Perhaps with MIDI 2.0 it would be possible, since precision and amount of channels will be increased significantly. Some modules already give MIDI control, but it would be best to just connect all the modules to computer and see their virtual counterparts like in VCV rack, patch it there and get the result out of actual modules in analog. Then you can save presets and get less obstructive interface with lots of patching going on.

[@jean_mollycutpurse_winchester]

Spare a thought for Wendy Carlos back in 1968 and look what she produced! Perhaps patience may be a necessary ingredient for excellence ?

[@GianoVerani]

Is this the new iMoog everybody is talking about?

[@Wasteland_FX]

Ok... i think this will be my last video to watch on the DFAM and the Mother 32... i was convinced before... but i'm ordering them now :')

[@lesonkitu1]

Who was the guy you said makes beautiful music on modular?

[@JakobHaq]

Ann Annie! He was at the event too. His whole channel is full of modular sounds. 👍🏼 m.kzbin.info/door/f_l8F01d2RtvoVf0R1-lHg

[@VictorSteiner]

Can Tim Apple I mean Jim Moog please post us a Polaroid of that patch? After getting into many more modules this video made me put my DFAM back into the same case than the Mother-32 ... well done ... can we get some kind of photo of the patchbays?

[@irrationalculture7439]

You would love the sound of Mutable Instruments ELEMENTS.

[@broboard9658]

Pirates of the MOOG

[@hulkslayer626]

I like to think the difference between playing an actual synth and playing a plug in synth is similar to the difference between bowling and playing Wii bowling. They're both bowling, same objective, same scoring system and same technique, but just different. And both fun! I love both. And if someone said I had to pick one to do the rest of my life, I wouldn't want to choose... but sometimes I want to go bowling, and sometimes I want to stay in and Wii bowl :)

[@JakobHaq]

I completely agree! 👊🏼

[@jonaseggen2230]

Great story. Also you two look like a good band. I think you should at least try to keep in touch, maybe remix each other or make a collaborative project for KZbin.

[@OliverBusse]

I always ask myself: could you produce a short circuit when doing something stupid?

[@SynthsandSounds]

I think you have to be quite careful only to connect inputs to outputs. You might break stuff if you connect one output to another one

[@EmlynInTheMix]

Haha, I hate the cables too.

[@pheotus]

Omg you two were sooo cute together.

[@orpheusx]

I realize this was over a year ago but...I like that Jakob was so open minded and as someone who enjoyed learning about synthesis on a big 70's Moog (a Modular 55, I think) I have nothing against patch cables per se. But I think it's a fallacy to think that those kinds of systems are deeper/produce better sound/are more interesting by virtue of requiring patch cords. Moog, Inc would love for people to believe that, of course, because they produce a wide range of terrific, *very expensive* synths. (Ironically, Bob Moog's original goal was to produce instruments that were more affordable than what had been available previously.) I would hate for younger composers to think they have to buy into the expense of modular synths in order to be serious electronic musicians. P.S. I have several 1/4" tapes of my Moog modular compositions from the 80's that sound very similar to what Jim was doing. Progress?

[@jthorpe4droid]

This is a really interesting video as most people show you a performance without this much explaining. Very cool video, but way about my head.

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

I’m not crazy about modular because it takes forever to do simple things. Work smarter not harder. But I understand it’s about the creativity and the process. But you got to remember , these are companies. They want you to feel like you need more gear to be a “Legit” artist. Don’t get modular if you’re looking for “Superior sound” after mixing and mastering on a DAW , the average listener couldn’t tell if it was made on a computer or synthesizer. (Or even care that you have modular synths.) Basically , if I could talk to my younger self I would say “If you don’t NEED it , you don’t NEED it.” It may impress your music friends but outside of this niche world , it doesn’t mean much to anyone. For instance at 23:38 it’s cool when you understand the context of what’s going on. But to 99% of this world that just sounds like bpm change.

[@torbenchristensen1481]

“Work smarter not harder” ruined popular music. I guess that’s when producers fail to be artists.

[@johnc6030]

I see a nice metal and wood Moog box with plastic cables :-O Braided metal ones would make me feel better. Sounds bloody great though.

[@JakobHaq]

I’m a sucker for braided cables too. 👍🏼

[@InkyDaCaT]

Hehehe....It blew my mind when I unplugged midi controller from neutron I had tried patching...and it was just...well ...alive? And sounded like nothing Id ever heard...brilliant times!!...if not Mother 32....Get a neutron? Its like a good way to get into it without...errr well....getting into it too errr....don't know if it fixed or enhanced the problem lol

[@josiethompson2420]

I love the multi-meter tattoo measuring 666

[@EsaiaRED]

Honestly - I'm not convinced modular is all its cracked up to be - consider in all of this if the idea was to accompany another instrument/musician....

[@RAVS_73]

It's obscene the amount of times I have now watched this. I think I have a problem.

[@JakobHaq]

I’m flattered! Thank you for coming back to watch this one. One of the most fun moments I had back at TSR. 🧡

[@personmcperson4440]

If they ever ported VCV Rack to iPad...wew shit, boy.

[@rossadams2193]

dope

[@JakeSweeper]

Hah... That has to be the first time I've seen a multi-meter tatoo. Is he a FLUKE man? :)