Can NPCs defeat Pinwheel ?

[@solverrex]

Alternative title: "Can Pinwheel defeat NPCs?"

[@Lucivius27]

You didnt seem to get the joke.

[@mrgrouge2392]

@@Lucivius27 you did not get it either

[@DavidJohnson-zu4or]

@@mrgrouge2392 How ironic lmao

[@jayhovah5621]

@@Lucivius27 I have to remind after all this time how bad you failed 😂

[@ivanreyes6331]

Imao

[@darreideamos2309]

Pinwhell being dropkicked by André is something else

[@DraknalHitdan]

The fact that it actually knocked Pinwheel down surprised me.

[@offtop1832]

i was not expecting to see pinwheel get knocked on his ass by andre

[@SirNightGaunt]

THIS IS WRESTLING!!!!

[@chetpongen7704]

Dropkicked to death*

[@Kkruench]

Andre: Who is your giantdad now?

[@neumeria8558]

Solaire: *hurls a bolt of lightning* Pinwheel: Hah! You fool, my clones will block that useless attack! Clones: *sidesteps away from bolt* Pinwheel: What the f-

[@hattsbygaming2861]

Hey even his clones have a degree of self preservation. Clone: "Hey listen I was just born/manifested into reality, so..." Pinwheel: "IF I DIE, SO DO ALL OF--" starts dying Clone: " Well, SHI- "

[@angelodewitt6336]

Solaire: Another Víctory for the Sun... Oh well now I will leave my sign here just in case

[@TheHoodedWarden]

Haha! But your clones are no match for ✨ J O L L Y C O O P E R A T I O N ✨

[@holdenstucker2162]

I'm just appreciating that solaire used s in his rolls to not take damage

[@Erikanimations]

20:30

[@juanito8752]

“I don’t want to fight you André!” Andre: I wouldn’t want to fight me neither.

[@collorfull_00]

I've read this with Andre's voice

[@lyrradprime5177]

Gold

[@dingusispingus5987]

But if that’s a reference to spider-man, Flash actually lost that fight.

[@TheRealDys]

Man I love his drop kicks Poor pinwheel fell😭

[@CallMeMimi27]

Andre: these hands are rated E for everyone

[@denizs.9619]

" I hope my boy Petrus doesnt die to this useless excuse of a boss" - Nobody ever

[@lbster6088]

Me...

[@KOMODO_7]

@@lbster6088 You don't exist

[@lbster6088]

@@KOMODO_7 i'm just your imagination

[@KOMODO_7]

@@lbster6088 Indeed

[@a_lilypup]

hey at least petrus can say he would do better than eingyi

[@SuicidalRevolver]

"Can NPCs defeat Pinwheel ?" Leeroy: *PROCEEDS TO 2-SHOT THE MAN'S WHOLE CAREER*

[@lucscarabaeus]

Leeroy is one of the best NPCs hands down

[@VILE-ir3cd]

Havel*

[@insanemokey1025]

@@VILE-ir3cd Leeroy is the strongest NPC in the game, he easily beats Havel, but Leeroy is not a poise tank monster like Havel.

[@yuritrasimaco5201]

He used his signature move: LEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEEENNNKIIIIIIIIIIISSS

[@lucscarabaeus]

@@VILE-ir3cd havel my man

[@rylanconnolly523]

I am now convinced Petrus betrayed his squad to cover up that they had to save him from Pinwheel.

[@JTruong3rd]

That... actually sounds very plausible.

[@watchfulwanderer6443]

Given that he's the only one that had no chance of beating pinwheel? yeah. if reah had the ai to fight, i could see her using a WotG and smashing him flat. between reah, vince, and nico, it shows why they were so confident in their victory over the catacombs. it's just unfortunate that the tomb of the giants is different beast entirely.

[@NuclearRizzicist]

@@watchfulwanderer6443 "can't... Fucking... See... Hey is that a vendor? Theres treasure down there? Sure I'll go- aw you son of a bitch Patches. Wait... Is that a walking bone tower? Are those giant skeleton dogs? They're NOT DOGS?! WHAT THE FUCK IS DOWN HERE?!"

[@ammarslhim7934]

L

[@mwperk02]

@@NuclearRizzicist lots of weird skele babes mostly also pinwheels clones.

[@ironicweeb6684]

I love how every NPC has these weapons and armor but Andre just runs in with a 4.99 special of these hands

[@thenthson]

He served up knuckle sandwiches like it was subway

[@vwts]

He did finish with feet tho

[@Lumpofchicken]

Dropkicked his ass

[@SHmoogleThe1st]

Andre straight up dropped kicked Pinwheel to the wall, love it

[@jonasfadi8213]

Hoarah loux would be proud

[@fearanger1]

There's a satisfying schadenfreude knowing that Vince and Rico succeeded where Petrus couldn't.

[@irisdaniels2318]

nico*

[@whitehorse8558]

I love that in Patches' fight with him, he goes for the real Pinwheel each time. Makes so much sense for the lore.. Patches would be able to sniff out a poor imitator pretty fast.

[@thegk-verse4216]

Petrus is the Pinwheel of firelink, and that being generous

[@joshuakim5240]

It's hilarious how Vince has almost the same gear, minus healing, and still was able to beat Pinwheel unlike Petrus.

[@snypurr_ow]

Did pass English 6th grade?

[@GenshinLover283]

@@joshuakim5240 Meanwhile, Nico going full derp mode and STILL managing to win lol

[@xavierbostwick6191]

He's the arm trapped ceaseless of firelink.

[@esssss8415]

@@snypurr_ow What?

[@11jerans]

Havel walked around the arena like, “Is this a joke? Someone tell me this is a joke”

[@lostsoul5385]

Havel literally eats magic on a regular basis

[@JimmyPizzaDelivery]

@@lostsoul5385 Lore? _I need the lore._

[@Doc_Chatter]

@@JimmyPizzaDelivery Havel is the one who made the Great Magic sheild miracle plus the tooth grants a magic resistance buff

[@Furymgs3]

@@JimmyPizzaDelivery Havel absolutely hated magic and Seath. Like 06 said, he used gear and designed Miracles (Magic Barrier and Great Magic Barrier) which were specifically made to counter mages.

[@pantheon9988]

Havel stood idle for a bit when he arrived in the first place, killed me right away. 😂😂

[@supergoodadvice853]

Ciaran: Sorry, I'm helping purge the Undead Crypt. Artorias: My parents aren't home. Ciaran:

[@Kemuell_Mabuen]

LOL!

[@ExhiledGod2]

Hello gun friend

[@SIGNOR-G]

*Gwyn isnt at home

[@meamez6456]

Xenophage is better

[@sal_ad]

Fancy meeting you here

[@pathfindersavant3988]

There is some kind of poetic irony to Lautrec getting ganked to death. Also, Shiva of the East? More like Shiva the Deceased.

[@stevebuhrt3504]

ToG watcher I see

[@spacebat3657]

Power up the bass cannons

[@kawailook]

Please de edit this comment

[@locomotivebreath9364]

Lol

[@1MoreStep1]

Giants, giants, giants

[@TheNerfer]

Never in my life have I heard Pinwheel's battle theme for this long.

[@stefanbs4723]

No one

[@Danktorias]

I've lived long enough to see Andre dropkickin Pinwheel to death lmao

[@palkinator]

Truly we can all die happy. No regrets left.

[@l0rdsab3r]

We all have no rejects, time to depart on our final adventure

[@joshmay2944]

13:13 in case anyone missed it

[@adradox]

"I may be crestfallen, but even I can defeat Pinwheel" - Crestfallen Warrior to Petrus, while pointing and laughing at him.

[@Mortablunt]

Savage

[@namethefifth7315]

Petres is so weak how did he ever get get into lordran

[@Executioner_Smough]

He’s just free food at that point

[@BuffGuitarist]

@@namethefifth7315 his shittalking skills

[@Windowlicker96G]

New challange - How many pinwheels does it take to beat a Gwyn?

[@nothis0432]

Seeing as pinwheel has a cloning move, less than expected but way more than What pinwheel would like

[@thekiss2083]

The game would just stop running

[@drakensong24]

There aren't enough pinwheels in existence

[@greenhowie]

It would be pinwheelception

[@danello9091]

@@drakensong24 Don't worry, they can always make more

[@thestrengthofyourwill9831]

This video cements two things I already knew: 1. Pinwheel is a very weak boss 2. Petrus is both a garbage fighter and human being

[@goofball7289]

I get the garbage fighter bit, but what makes him a garbage human being?

[@thestrengthofyourwill9831]

@@goofball7289 if you leave him alone he murders lady Reah

[@goofball7289]

@@thestrengthofyourwill9831 HE WHAT ...as a faith build main, if you may excuse me, I have a heretic to slay...

[@Hiddendandilion]

Petrus is the one who organized the murder of Reah and her two bros And also he made some rapey comments

[@crossbowwobssorc8425]

@@goofball7289 You're not alone. I played dark souls remastered for like 3 years and I just realized petrus was a bad guy 2 or 3 weeks ago lmao

[@samueltheriault4790]

2-handed Zheihander heavy attack poise damage : 46 Andre’s dropkick poise damage : 9999

[@broek6075]

The heavy attack has a total of 120 poise damage I believe, because there are multiple instances in the attack where it deals poise damage

[@matthewhall1467]

It’s been a decade and we’re still finding new layers to Pinwheel’s suckiness

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

Pinwheel: _" I am a Scholar, not a combatant. "_ Poor dude just wanted to uncover the mysteries of the universe man. :D

[@writtenworlds]

And how shit petras, and low-mid level sorcerers are.

[@redduskironsky1058]

@@writtenworlds thats what he gets

[@mee091000]

He did manage to beat Nito though lol

[@metalmonster9536]

@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly Aldia: Hold my first sin Of course, considering Aldia being easy and slow for a true final boss, it seems scholars are pretty bad at fighting

[@pharaohbubbles1547]

Of all NPCs that failed, Petrus was the most satisfying

[@Beastlango]

With his fighting style you could probably run it a million times and me would never succeed

[@peeeepthis]

Lautrec is a close second

[@MrDibara]

@@peeeepthis Eh, more or less. A backstabbing dick he may be, but at least Lautrec is decent enough in a fight, so I attributed his loss to bad luck or just the wrong strats. Petrus on the other hand is just straight up BAD! You can tell this guy never gained his title of "Elite Cleric" through his achievements and prowess, but instead through his privileges and manipulations. A rotten liar, the likes of which made Patches hold a general grudge for all Clerics.

[@1mclv]

@@MrDibara meh, as much as I dislike Petrus, I always kill Patches in DS1 too

[@stripedhyenuh]

I was rooting for Pinwheel

[@ApofisRaxionNecros]

Contender Number One: Paladin "Foregone Conclusion" Leeroy. I love how Big Hat Logan, greatest sorcerer of our time, was so unphased by Pinwheel that he decided to flex by running up to him and stabbing the dude as an opening move.

[@ttd0000]

As the greatest sorcerer of our time, Big Hat Logan knows the truth... sometimes it's faster and easier to just shank a bitch.

[@umukzusgelos4834]

while his student got incinerated within seconds, trying to do the same...

[@Zaheer_Zafar_Zawhereeveryouare]

@@umukzusgelos4834 flexed on his crispy student

[@watchfulwanderer6443]

@@ttd0000 sometimes it's not faster, but it is more fun.

[@ThePaleShade]

gandalf builds take note

[@mordirit8727]

Quelana literally went "you call THAT pyromancy?" and I love it

[@TheHimbeerjoghurt]

Technically Pinwheel is a necromancer, not a pyromancer

[@alyseleem2692]

​@@TheHimbeerjoghurtPyromancy is the casting and manipulation of fire. Necromancy does not include casting fire. Therefore, what Pinwheel is casting is either pyromancy or ( very unlikely) fire sorcery.

[@nickmarinakis2100]

Nico's fight: when a stoppable force meets a movable object

[@Basketfullofcrabs]

Shiva of the east? More like Shiva the deceased lmao

[@Yes_Indeed-w7t]

He was going to die because I use that freaking chaos bug to kill him after the part where I just buy demons great machete off him

[@Ferromancer86]

I understood that reference

[@olegwind]

Feels like he is a simple merchant, who got the nice gear and now is pretending to be a "mysterious warrior of the East" :-D

[@smeghead6041]

What was that from again?

[@DerCrawlerVomUrAnus]

@@smeghead6041 It's from the infamous "He's back" video, one of Dark Souls biggest memes.

[@SuicidalRevolver]

headline: *Local swole blacksmith dropkicks creepy basement dwelling nerd out of existence*

[@jarrarwinks8470]

Correction* Man who forged the universe drop kicks my neighbor.

[@theperfectcrabbo9414]

@@jarrarwinks8470 fuggin’ kek

[@2HandHangerDunksOnly]

Basement dwelling nerd and his conjoined wife and son

[@KaptainKommissar]

I love how Tarkus and Havel just sit back and let Pinwheel make the first move What chads

[@paladin181]

Both of them: I'm going to give you a chance. Go ahead. Do something before this is over.

[@niteliniN]

@@paladin181 meanwhile leroy: Okay guys, let's do this... LEEROOOY JEEEEENNsus christ it's already dead....jmmmm.... well, at least I have chicken...

[@MightyPoggers]

First hit from Havel 3/4 of pinwheels life gone. I spit out my water lol

[@TheRealTorG]

>shows up >kills Pinwheel >refuses to elaborate

[@Boball345]

Given that there's cut dialogue of Petrus being captured by Pinwheel, this all makes sense now

[@heitorgdo]

Canon

[@dunkleham]

Average NPC: Hard swings with expertly crafted weapons, some taking blows to their heavy armor Andre: Givin him the fuckin _business_

[@palkinator]

Not sure which is funnier; the fact that Havel literally stood still for a few seconds to give Pinwheel time to clone and then 2-shot him, or watching Big Hat Logan, Master Sorcerer, start beating Pinwheel with his staff.

[@anonemuss1418]

It looks like he actually uses a scimitar as a secondary weapon. You can see him switch later on in his fight.

[@watchfulwanderer6443]

look, even master sorcerers have to have their fun. if you were to go up against someone who is like you, but worse in every possible way, and also you can resurrect indefinitely, wouldn't you want to have some fun with it?

[@cpt.sortinaz5572]

@@watchfulwanderer6443 i can imagine logan is litterally dying seeing a so-called bosses does a horrible job at using magics, much worse than his student. To the point he drop all respect and litterally just playing around and then does a damn finisher.

[@hiddenshadow2105]

Havel calmly waiting for clones to spawn and then nonchalantly 2-shotting Pinwheel anyway was my favouritem moment After Andre's dropkick, i.e.

[@fantasticmrmonk]

@@cpt.sortinaz5572 not so much worse as to beat his student. Man, Logan must be all kinds of disappointed.

[@darreideamos2309]

My man Crest really clutched the fight with some great rolls. What a fight

[@crestfallenwarrior5719]

Yes indeed, but what now? Should i go the tomb of the giants? So many dangers...but fight my way back to the firelink shrine...ah...maybe i just wait here...hollowing in peace in this literal graveyard. Iconic. Hopefully the curse of the undead won't keep me waiting for too long...hahahaha

[@shinyrayquaza9]

you gotta remember he is responseable for most of the firelink bloodstains

[@lefteron6804]

I mean, there are so many books laying around here, you have something to pass the time at least. You might even be lucky and go insane instead of going hollow like Logan.

[@watchfulwanderer6443]

he stopped fighting because he came to believe that ringing the bells is impossible, not because he's bad at fighting. if you pick a fight with him, he's a badass. hell, even after waking up frampt and sending him to new londo, he's still a threat.

[@aaronofastora2308]

@@crestfallenwarrior5719 ah, I'm sorry sir... I tried to spare you so many times, even avoiding you and that smelly snake in the hopes that you'd just linger at the shrine a bit longer. I miss your cynicism old friend.

[@inviinviinvi]

Petrus: Those young knights are her old schoolmates. But I'm not sure what to make of them... I'm afraid they may be a bad influence... Nico and Vince: At least we don't die to a fucking pinwheel

[@GenshinLover283]

Nico: *Condescending Hmmms*

[@xcritic9671]

Logan: so anyway I started blasting Andre: catch these hands Quelana: duplicate through this Havel: it's clobberin time

[@zomboids2100]

Tarkus: *I'll give you a heads start to make this fight fair for you.*

[@xcritic9671]

@@zomboids2100 not possible.

[@orilux3898]

Seeing Andre just drop kick the boss several times and knock him down is very satisfying

[@QWIKGAMES]

Never thought I'd ever see something as glorious as Andre chain drop kicking pinwheel but I'm so glad I was invited to see it. This one was a treat.

[@DavidNwokoye]

Lord's Blade Ciaran and Leeroy beat him like they had somewhere else to be 😂😂😂

[@MrDibara]

To be fair, they ARE two of the most OP NPCs in the fame, even lorewise, so... XD

[@doomrider7]

Same with Onion Bro Seigmeyer. I don't think he even got hit in the fight.

[@supergoodadvice853]

Artorias said he was free.

[@lucasduque8289]

Don't all of us beat Pinwheel like if we got somewhere else to be? "Fine, I'll fight you, but be quick, I gotta get to Nito"

[@BlazeWill]

so pretty much like actual players, no one wants to stick around Pinwheels area for too long

[@yannym4605]

Big Hat Logan redeeming sorcerers everywhere Then you have Mildred once again blocking fire with a wooden shield.

[@jorge4572]

She didn't block it... tbf you can see that she is almost inmune to fire damage.

[@jmdefault]

@@jorge4572 She must have built up immunity from all the times she deliberately baths in Quelaags lava puddles.

[@dampierre99]

The problem with Pinwheel isn't that he's weak, it's that he's supposed to be a starting boss. But since he isn't easy to find and most people don't like going through skeletons, he becomes a somewhat mid game encounter where you're already buffed up and wont have a hard time with him.

[@Foxenco]

​@@elock1277 Not necessarily, I guess He's talking about the fact that in DS you can pretty much go anywhere from the start of the game. So with that fact in mind, Pinwheel would be one of the fist bosses you fight if you choose the catacombs at the start (but nobady would do that anymore because you would get stuck with the skelletons and then you would consult a guide). After that is tomb of the giants, and then the golden fog gate would tell the player "fuck off and get the lordvessel" so they get back on track for the bells.

[@auroravarelasaldana327]

@@elock1277 it supposed the play should down to the catacombs before or after kill the ares demon because when you come back in that time to the firelink sanctuary is when come the partners of petrus a talks about go down and another characters talks about that place.

[@Torthrodhel]

I probably would've stuck with the plan of doing catacombs first if a holy weapon was an easier thing to get at the start. Since it's not it kinda makes it a temporary no-go area (at least for a player like me who doesn't like to run past things that could sneak up on her later, preferring to wipe stuff out as I go). So yeah the boss difficulty level seems misjudged with the completion method availability for the area. One's tuned to early-game, the other's tuned to early-mid.

[@CivilizedWasteland]

@@Torthrodhel thought the same, it's pretty obvious once you enter the catacombs you're not supposed to be there, kinda like when you get to the ghosts in the flooded area. They should have put a holy weapon at the end of the graveyard and put the zweihander somewhere else. Honestly I think the area is easier than the typical beginning route, it's just that the skeletons become overwhelming early game because it takes so long to kill them.

[@NiGHTSnoob]

The Catacombs are roughly stat lined to be in league with the Depths, and the first part of Darkroot. Which makes sense as you get the Divine Ember after Moonlight Butterfly. Presumably the "Intended" path is to either hit them before going down to Blightown or after coming back up from it seeing as you meet Rhea and get the Rite of Kindling hinted to you after beating Capra Demon if you don't head straight down.

[@1OaKind]

Poor Sif went from confused to frustrated with those darn illusions 🥺

[@coolrotaryphone]

Poor pupper had too many options, thankfully she made it

[@Etothe3rdPower]

Until Young Sif’s turn, I had never heard that much of Pinwheel’s theme music.

[@rickscott8756]

Right? it's a pretty awesome song too. I'd be pissed if I was the person who wrote that.

[@TheDirtyBum900]

Facts, ngl I kinda dig it

[@realkingofantarctica]

I cheered when Patches won, and I cheered even louder when Petrus lost.

[@NatVirgo]

Thanks… for spoiling…

[@kango6218]

@@NatVirgo bruh, don't read the comments before seeing tha video

[@NatVirgo]

@@kango6218 I’m on mobile, you’re the top comment.

[@antohan1496]

Bruh, on mobile you must click "the comments" section to actually see the comments

[@NatVirgo]

@@antohan1496 do you have discord cuz I can screenshot it if you wanr

[@waltuh11121]

I just love how the NPCs are sitting around the arena

[@thaias9654]

Completely forgot about that while watching.

[@mikecharecky2818]

Even a very confused dog with a sword can smack Pinwheel. I think Petrus may have forgotten that the strength of your miracles relies on your faith.

[@nicolasrodriguezbadala1024]

Quelana was so sick of pinwheel she was like: "ok screw this, firestorm!" And deleted him from the game

[@clueless6763]

Andre: "Dropkick Combo ACTIVATE" Pinwheel: The... WHAT?!

[@TheHoodedWarden]

The… end. For you, Pinny--

[@sabotower1792]

Narrator: *This is one of Andre's special moves...*

[@TheGayling2]

To be fair if the AI was smart enough to spam Andre's dropkick he would stun lock most enemies in the game to death 😂

[@Crappy9922]

Out of all the NPCs, Patches is the one who gets the Mask of the Father drop. True daddy material.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

He was the only one that looted pinwheel at all lol.

[@MrDibara]

Honestly, seeing Petrus perform so badly compared to his peers just adds new layers to make his character despisable. He may _supposedly_ be the veteran of the Thorolund Cleric Knights, the "Elite Cleric" evidenced even by his armor. And yet, the fact that he is so much weaker then "rookies" such as Vince and Nico to me suggests that he did not achieve his Rank through his own merits, but instead through his "connections" and "privileges" that he used to have before turning Undead. In other words, he lied, manipulated and backstabbed his way into his position as an Elite Thoeolund Cleric. And when you meet him for the fisrt time, his manner of speech could EASILY convince you he's a wise veteran of his art. DAMN, it most certainly are "Clerics" such as *this guy* that made Patches develop the murderous grudge he has now. A damn shame, because unlike Petrus, the young Clerics Vince and Nico were honestly good people, if a little misguided by the teachings they grew up with. They didn't deserve the trap Patches set up for them! And yet I can't blame Patches if he had mistaken them for the same "lying, rotten Clerics" that folks like Petrus are. If in the past he was devastatingly wronged by "Clerics" such as Petrus, I can understand him developing a negative bias for all Clerics in general. (though I don't agree with it)

[@grfrjiglstan]

There's a bit more environmental storytelling to Petrus. That talisman he's using? It doesn't scale with faith, so it's usually used by people who don't have much of it. Also, you find a regular talisman and morning star down the elevator shaft. I think the leading theory is that Petrus killed the real elite cleric, took his clothes, and shoved his body down the shaft.

[@MrDibara]

@@grfrjiglstan DAMN! That second half of your comment is gruesome! But it lowkey makes sense. If Rhea, Vince and Nico did _not_ depart for Lordran together with Petrus and were instead meant to redenvouz with an Elite Cleric Knight, then this theory has a lot of credence to it! Maybe Petrus was also originally from Thorolund, but not a Cleric at all and he somehow managed to assassinate the Elite Cleric Knight that was supposed to meet up with Rhea's party. Personally, I still like to think he is a corrupt Cleric from the beginning, since I think that gives more layers of complexity to the entire Way of White church. While there would be honest souls trully blindly believing in their faith, there would also be those in power who'd secretly use their authority for their own ends. That's a nice theme that I think fits well within this universe, considering how Dark Souls in general is heavily inspired by Berserk. (where many supposedly "righteous" authorities were in fact rotten to the core) But I will admit that this theory you presented is very cool too! In fact, if I were to discard my personal preference, this would easily be my second pick right off the bat! I wouldn't know how to explain the Talisman and Morning Star hidden away in that chest otherwise! (though that could've also belonged to a prieviously failed Thorolund Cleric, who also embarked on an ill-fated quest for the Catacombs)

[@Snickersnek]

Personally don't buy the "murder-and-replace" theory for Petrus, there's no real reason for the imposter to act as Petrus, it's not lucrative or anything like Licia in Dark Souls 2, and he DOES know miracles. (Also if From wanted to push that narrative, I think they'd have a thief's set in one of the chests or a skeleton among the chests) Pretty sure he's just a corrupt 'cleric' who found himself cursed and sent out on a death sentence of a pilgrimage, and suddenly all his connections didn't matter any more once he had the Darksign. The loot seems more like just backup supplies, things he's hoarded or brought along with him to Anor Londo. The red orbs showing he's not above pillaging Humanity to keep himself away from Hollowing, after all there's little else keeping him from Hollowing any more...

[@MrDibara]

@@Snickersnek _Hmmm, true._ All of your arguments are very much valid. :\ I still do like the "fake Cleric" concept as a side theory, but for the most part, I agree that the "corrupt Cleric" makes far more sense in light of what you've said. It's also the one I personally hold as my favourite.

[@smartstudyingdoggo9031]

please keep talking. I’m loving all the theroies

[@Mornepin]

Pinwheel's moon jumps are so entertaining. Like he's playing the ghost "wooo hoooo, be scared human, booo"

[@coolrotaryphone]

wOoooOOOoooo - - Pinwheel (probably)

[@RandomDuude]

Laurentius is that chill AF old stoner who one day you discover was in special forces back in Vietnam.

[@NEEDbacon]

Given Laurentius is a Pyromancer, by osmosis he's learnt all the tricks and skills of people who do SL1 runs.

[@tylerstiles3780]

I hate that I have to lie to him to keep him alive

[@davidcardozo290]

@@tylerstiles3780 It would be cool if you could teach him pyromancy this time around and maybe even have him as a summon in certain bosses.

[@ehoraida5900]

It pisses me off so much that the ONLY boss fight that you can summon Leeroy to it's against a boss that he barely receives damage and can TWO SHOT the thing like it is nothing

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

I think it's a joke at pinwheels expense

[@rylanconnolly523]

I took it as "you can Leeroy (Jenkins) him and win"

[@snakeshepard9761]

Without him getting to Tomb of Giants just after reaching Firelink Shrine would be almost impossible

[@JTruong3rd]

If only we had him for the tomb of giants first bonfire

[@literalcancer8810]

I think it's super funny that they give you the most op npc besides Havel for the laughing stock of the series. I always summon him just to watch pinwheel get slapped

[@mariusastrupclausen7888]

I love how Lautrec literally just walks away from Pinwheel thinking he is not worth his time. And then all the clones spawn and he dies. If he had just hit pinwheel one more time he would have won ;_;

[@dreamadept8784]

i was so SO disappointed in Lautrec’s performance…

[@shinren_]

More like he thought the fight was over and walked away and then all the clones spawned xd

[@SoulmongerV2]

I think Lautrec was robbed of this victory. Watching the health bar I realized that some of the NPCs had their summon's stats while others had their regular stats. Prime example of this would be Solaire of Astora, who took nearly no damage from Pinwheel, despite his health and armor being comparable to Lautrec's, suggesting that he was actually a white summon. Lautrec is also summonable and I'm pretty confident that if he had the same stats as his summon for Gaping Dragon fight he would've won with ease.

[@hugofontes5708]

@@SoulmongerV2 he just had to literally not just stare at pinwheel's faces at the end D:

[@M5r.S5g]

Pinwheel: *exists* Siegmeyer: "And I took that personally"

[@TheDexecutioner]

Thought I'd see more comments on Siegmeyer, pretty sure he took the crown!

[@ethannelson3285]

FLAWLESS VICTORY

[@RelativelyBest]

When the fight started I happened to look away for a few moments and when I looked back Sigmeyer was like: "I have already defeated him!"

[@kenlo2410]

hhmmmmmmmmmm....... hmmmmmmmm..............

[@Darlanter]

@@TheDexecutioner As expected from the Onion bro ;)

[@trevinhs]

I was legit so happy my boy crestfallen made it by an inch of his life

[@miyukiteishi9051]

The Sif fight was really emotional, she looked scared and confused at first, but then learned how they attack and their trickery and grew confidence and began to take them out.

[@keztannis6848]

Or the AI was just spurging out...

[@subject_of_ymir]

Yes, Sif is a female name. But Sif in Dark souls is a "He". Look it up.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

@@subject_of_ymir there is no official confirmation of Sifs gender but is also widely considered a she.

[@celestialcosmo2237]

Watching sif run around brought a smile to my face 😊

[@OscarofAstora69]

I thought it was a he

[@mastermarkus5307]

Lautrec really... snatched defeat from the hands of victory there.

[@kissadev.]

Pinwheel is Magicarp, necessary to make the Giant Dad build. Giant Dad is the Gyarados.

[@burritowyrm6530]

Never forget your roots

[@alajndress]

If you’re going to make a terrible reference, at least spell the proper noun correctly because I don’t remember battling Lord Gwon and his Block Knights.

[@o_ver2.094]

@@alajndress Man i remember gwon and his Block knights Easily the hardest boss and enemies on the souls borne lore

[@Javlin95]

@@alajndress What will be next, the Daughters of Kosm? ... ...hold on who opened that eldritch portal ther-

[@gochez1017]

@@o_ver2.094 How to forget Gwon, Lyrd of cinder fight? His theme is amazing

[@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce]

21:44 That has to be the coolest ending out of all the fights. That looked cinematic as hell. GG Witch Beatrice.

[@patricklukcy13]

You dont count andre drop kicking pinwheel into oblivion as the coolest?

[@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce]

@@patricklukcy13 It's cool, but no, not the coolest imo.

[@patricklukcy13]

@@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce fair enough. For me it was Andre, qualana, and laurentius. In that order.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

I love the way that Andre walked like badass towards the camera, with his dukes up, when he was done with all his dropkick insanity. That was hella cinematic!

[@Ric_Vicious]

Lautrec's AI breaking halfway through the fight was actually pretty hilarious, lol. "That'll show that weird, 6 armed thing that I most definitely just killed..." 15:48

[@TheGabrielbowater]

Seeing Petrus eat shit will never not improve my day Also, Lautec walking away like he'd one and then getting zerged was amazing

[@blackoutsampler9993]

Some Notable Fights: Trusty Patches: One of the few that actually looted Pinwheel. Also got the Mask of the Father Petrus: Pinwheel's first victory... Real decisive Nico: Close back and forth between Pinwheel and Nico, closest fight by far. Laruentius: Was taking no shits from Pinwheel. Kept him on the backfoot the entire time Crestfallen Warrior: Did really well despite being obviously underpowered for the fight. Ingward: Was kinda clever at first, using the walls for cover while sniping the real Pinwheel, but got overwhelmed in the end. Siegmeyer: Utter Stomp, First No-Damage victor. Knight Lautrec: Had the clear advantage at first, but Pinwheel feigned death, and then jumped him with like, 9 copies of himself. Shiva: honestly, it seems like Pinwheel is getting smarter with each fight. That or it could be that Shiva fought the wall for half the battle. Quelana: Second No-Damage victory. Quelana showed Pinwheel how to really do pyremancy Iron Tarkus: Really close fight, Pinwheel really seemed- *pshh* Ha! I can't say it with a straight face, nah Tarkus gotta Tarkus.

[@kyuugetsu3387]

Havel: Wait, your attacks do damage?

[@gingahbeef2604]

@@kyuugetsu3387 Havel damn near one shot him too! Heaviest hitter of all of them.

[@zomboids2100]

*Tarkus! Tarkus! Tarkus! Tarkus!*

[@goozilla132]

Wow just gonna ignore how Andre drop kicked pinwheel to death

[@Nekomomoz]

u missed Ciaran. Fastest kill

[@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce]

11:46 Crestfallen Warrior coming through in the clutch. That was impressive. I thought he was going to die for sure.

[@JohanKylander]

He may be crestfallen, but he isn't defenseless.

[@NoForksGiven]

Leeroy be like: How many times do I need to teach you this lesson old man?

[@Rzurab]

Soooo happy about Young Sif! At some moments, he looked a little insecure. Petrus deserves it well.

[@vwts]

He’s not very aggro and being aggro is the way to beat Pinwheel. He’s bulky enough that it wasn’t a problem tho

[@NateTheScot]

She.

[@NateTheScot]

@@vwts Sif is female.

[@nerobiblios4086]

I'd like to think that FromSoft purposely made every single NPC that has canonically gotten to the Tomb of the Giants have enough power to kill Pinwheel both gameplay wise and lore wise.

[@kristopherdrechsel5742]

I just thought about how cute it would be to see young sif put down a summon sign

[@ApofisRaxionNecros]

It's a little paw print with a couple of sword gouges around it.

[@vshiki4872]

@@ApofisRaxionNecros please I'm gonna cry, that'd be so cute, I'd smooch her on her head the second she gets summoned

[@hugomoberg3071]

No wonder Lautrec kills the only cripple in town when he can't kill Pinwheel.

[@jarrarwinks8470]

Yeah, but he could have killed the Chosen Undead, yeah, I know the secrets.

[@knightsona7782]

I feel like he just got really unlucky with his targeting.

[@Varesmyr]

Lautrec wallking away like his job is done while Pinwheel summons several clones

[@MCYonazz]

He started off so well with the dodge rolls, but the clones confused his targeting to much.

[@orgastrange5861]

Laurentius comin' out here like "Fire? I'LL show you FIRE!"

[@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce]

Also Quelana of Izalith. She did about half of Pinwheel's health with one fireball (I think it was a Great Fireball or Great Chaos FIreball).

[@orgastrange5861]

Yeah, I saw her come out and absolutely ROCK his shit just after I made that comment.

[@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce]

@@orgastrange5861 Lmao. She's insanely powerful. Also pyromancies in general are so strong in Dark Souls 1. I love doing pyromancer builds in Dark Souls (not just Dark Souls 1, but all three Dark Souls games). I think Pyro builds are the most fun in Dark Souls 2, but arguably the most powerful in Dark Souls 1. Pyros can be fun in Dark Souls 3 but sadly they're never super powerful from my experiences. Pyromancy scales with int and faith in Dark Soul 2 and Dark Souls 3, and they can do a lot of damage with +10 pyro glove and 30 int & 30 faith in Dark Souls 2, but I feel like pyromancy scales in damage a lot slower in Dark Souls 3. Everyone seems to think you need 60 int and faith for pyro builds to do a lot of damage in Dark Souls 3. For casters of any kind in Dark Souls 3 (clerics, sorcerers, hexers even though hexes barely exist in DaS3, and pyros) it seems like people will aim for 60 (int, faith, or both int and faith).

[@watchfulwanderer6443]

@@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce it helps that all the pyromancy teachers are good people.

[@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce]

@@watchfulwanderer6443 Definitely. This is kind of random and about a Elder Scrolls game but your comment made me think of how in Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind there's a npc trainer who you have to use the "Calm" spell on in order to talk to him and have him train you in Enchanting (a skill to enchant stuff gear and weapons with magical effects). Imagine if in a Dark Souls game there were npc's that you had to trick into helping you, or you had to defeat them once in combat before being able to have them help you out.

[@OuroborosChoked]

Mildred wasn't even in doubt. She can solo Quelaag in NG+. She's a beast.

[@gringomoderfoquer8287]

Mildred took less damage from Pinwheel than Havel. She has some serious fire resistance, even though she has no armor

[@capnheehee8103]

Sort of makes sense, as she was designed to be the NPC summon help for Quelaag, who vomits fire on the regular. It's how Mildred doesn't die in two seconds every time Quelaag spits lava on the ground, naked though Mildred may be. She's got flash sweat on at all times. :-p

[@gmjakeery]

Pinwheel: "omg this rock dude hurts like hell" Us: "Yeah we know"

[@zegominha3586]

THAT’S A LOT OF DAMAGE

[@Robthetank001]

I can imagine everyone making the trek down the Catacombs, It took all of Patches' willpower not to turn that bridge switch XD

[@danghostman2814]

"How many NPCs can outsmart Patches?" "Oddly, none of the clerics made it to the starting line of the test."

[@DrPonk]

For legal reasons, everyone agreed to tell Patches the meeting time was a few hours later than it actually was

[@cake_knight183]

"c'mon Patches, keep it together. It might be funny to send all these lot down a pit, but seeing that rotten cleric and the tin can get crushed by Pinwheel will be 1000 times funnier."

[@conkysouls9574]

They made him go first.

[@BigBadBalrog]

I never get tired of seeing Petrus get absolutely bodied

[@lordofgeese6437]

Literally every Pyromancer in the game saw Pinwheel’s slow-ass fireball and was like: “You call that pyromancy? Here, let me show you pyromancy!”

[@captain__castle3177]

Pinwheel: “I don’t want to fight you Andre.” Andre: “I wouldn’t want to fight me neither.” 🤣

[@PanRokador]

Getting hit by Havel is like getting hit by a train. But harder.

[@jonbaird8835]

BIG TRUCK

[@ThePaleShade]

haval is played by Dwayne the rock Johnson

[@SuicidalRevolver]

Isn't the better question "can Pinwheel defeat an NPC"? *Wall of shame:* Petrus, Domhnall, Griggs, Ingward, Lautrec, Shiva(?!)

[@awesomesauce980]

Shiva of the East? More like Shive of the Deceased!

[@jarrarwinks8470]

More like Shiva of the Deceased!

[@doomrider7]

Petrus was the weakest of that line-up and the others were just very dumb AI.

[@danghostman2814]

Git gud u scrub (Lautrec is also an odd one to fail.)

[@eadyzrx322]

@@danghostman2814 he parries and has limited range in fairness

[@greenhowie]

I love how all of these are set up like a kind of proving ground that the NPCs have decided on

[@xanthiusdrake2775]

a lot of them don't really need to prove anything though, pretty obvious that ones like Havel, Iron Tarkus and Leeroy would win, they are tanks and hit like a truck (almost forgot Siegmeyre). And ones like Qualana and Laurentius have their pyromancy, which are basically nukes.

[@buddyboltgaming8269]

I love that Tarkus used his sword to block, instead of the giant shield on his back.

[@nicolapodgornik6644]

Laurentius is a beast, loved that sprint into combust combo, and the weapon swap was amazing ❤️

[@joereno955]

I think Pinwheel is actually a great boss. You have to look at the context: you fight them after running a long, brutal gauntlet of enemies... or just sprinting past a million guys and taking shortcuts. Either way, a difficult boss would be too punishing in those circumstances. Instead they give you one last relatively easy challenge, but one that keeps you on your toes and forces you to fight instead of run.

[@turt18]

Fair enough I get where your coming from

[@mj_out]

Nice thought

[@GazpachoMacho]

Tell that to sir Alone.

[@joereno955]

@@GazpachoMacho Yeah but Sir Alonne is an optional DLC boss, not a mandatory boss in the main game. Arbitrary punishing difficulty is fine for an optional DLC boss but not always great for a mandatory boss in the main game

[@rhysofsneezingdragon1758]

Kinda like demon of song or wolnir. An interesting yet easy boss after a brutal area

[@beydey2647]

Really surprised by Laurentius here, my man went hypermode

[@stevenking9612]

I was thinking the same! He did not fuck around and was super aggressive right out the gate. I felt bad for Griggs. Boy did try hard but was such a glass cannon!

[@allhandsondik7803]

@@stevenking9612 poor Griggs got fucking triple tagged in .2 seconds, he was doomed from that moment

[@UselessSwordork]

You know. Ingward and Lautrec may have won if they stopped trying to block fireballs with knives

[@moradan81]

This comment made me think, has anybody plugged a better AI into these characters and tried this? Like, a learning AI?

[@okamiwarrior3327]

Well... Fire Keeper from Anor Londo did same, but still won.

[@charles-antoinemartel-roy]

@@moradan81 The thing is, they probably would. You have to remember that Lautrec is meant to challenge the player in a 3 on 1 fight, so his AI aggressiveness seems to be toned down a lot. My guess is that he was strong enough that trying to fight him early on is still hard, and that by the time you would crush him, he has killed the FK and fled, so you have to fight him 1 on 3. Because if you try attacking him in Firelink, you'll notice he's no where near as aggro as the crestfallen warrior

[@mordirit8727]

Lautrec's AI is so defensive, he tries to dodge any _action,_ not even attacks; if Pinwheel is jumping, flying, summoning, Lautrec is trying to "dodge" those things instead of attacking, no wonder he lost

[@Shad0wFL4ME]

I'm surprised any NPC could defeat Pinwheel, such a pinnacle of difficulty and gate keeping of an entire location

[@DerSisch]

Ciaran, Quelana & Havel: "Can I get a real challange next time?" Sif toys with her food Patches: "I bet that was a cleric in disguise." Laurentius: "Time for a camp fire." Siegmeyer: "Mmh... Hmm... Oh! Haha." Andre does his best impression of Hulk Hogan Lautrec is the one where you cheer for Pinwheel

[@_-Lx-_]

Sifs a boy.

[@duroorud527]

When they care a bit much for the fictional canine's pronouns

[@joshuamiller1111]

Great. Now I'm imagining Andre as Hulk Hogan

[@DerSisch]

@@joshuamiller1111 I can forge that for you, brotha!

[@joshuamiller1111]

@@DerSisch "Don't get yourself killed. Neither of us, or the thousands of screaming Andremaniacs want to see you go hollow"

[@sadburrito6551]

I’ve NEVER heard his theme for long enough to recognize it until now lol

[@xxazurephantomxx8242]

Trusty Patches is so trusty, that even he gave you the father's mask as proof of how trusty he is.

[@elkain4630]

Seeing how little damage patches does in all souls titles compared to what it feels like when he is actually mad at you...shocking , but i never doubt my boy Andre

[@MatsYoo]

Well in the fight against the knight of filianore in ds3 he does decent damage, but thats not his gear hes using

[@elkain4630]

@@MatsYoo yeah but i mean isn't he Lapp at that time? Or am I thinking of a different boss?

[@dynamicflashy]

@@MatsYoo Spear of the Church? That's because he was using a powerful weapon.

[@krabparrot5724]

@@elkain4630 Kinda, he already stopped being "Lapp" at that moment and ditched his armor, but kept his glaive and stronger greatshield.

[@jawson3903]

You don't realise how much you need Andre dropkicking Pinwheel footage until it's right there in front of you

[@imtryingalright8555]

Laurentius did surprisingly well. Did it like a player would. Bravo!

[@irwanimationtad]

andre dropkicking pinwheel to the ground is the most disrespecting anyone can do to pinwheel. he brought the whole family down

[@Jasder]

In the defense of Lautrec, he does a lot of parry and pinwheel, well…

[@shinyrayquaza9]

does lautrec really deserve to win tho

[@firewall5189]

@@shinyrayquaza9 lautrec just ran/rolled right up to pinwheel's face, stared him dead in the eye, and did nothing lol you make the call on whether he deserved to win

[@goneforgood443]

Yeah nah don’t defend that knob lol, I cheered out loud when he died

[@sirfijoe450]

Lautrec is a chad. Any NPC that trolls the player character is a chad.

[@Jasder]

@@sirfijoe450 can confirm, patches is one of my favorites npc

[@AlmightySammich]

Siegward's just there to collect the Mask of the Father, since he already has the Bass Cannon and all.

[@danghostman2814]

Wait, speaking of which... WHERE'S SIEGLINDE?

[@lefteron6804]

Or the ninja.

[@danghostman2814]

@@lefteron6804 What do you mean? The ninja was right there at 22:50 . I know he was a bit sneaky, but did OK. :P

[@runaan7382]

out of everything life has to offer, im pretty sure andre dropkicking pinwheel to death is the peak of it all

[@Velka-.-]

Andre really made pinwheel fall down He's really asserting his dominance

[@p3rfectlym1saligned]

Everyone out here talking about the human NPC's when Best Boi Young Sif did his pupper best.

[@DiggitySlice]

He would have done so much better if he wasn't constantly backing up

[@JavierMartinez2010]

@@DiggitySlice he was distracted with pinwheels clone's sticks

[@kylekillgannon]

Goodest Boy Sif was so excited at how many hands Pinwheel had to pet him with!

[@Katepuzzilein]

@@DiggitySlice It kinda looked like he was playing with them

[@balazsadam3861]

Isn't Sif a she?

[@RavielUriaHamon]

21:48 22:28 Beatrice and Tarkus were THIS close to getting fireballed into oblivion. I'm so glad they beat Pinwheel in time.

[@zaleost]

I guess a lot of this fight really comes down to how aggressive they are able to be and whether their attack is high enough to finish it off before too many of the phantoms start appearing. After that they really struggle to target the main body and become too defensive to avoid its own projectiles.

[@marvinscheer1028]

exept our tanky puppy who doesn't care about puny fireballs

[@ItsJustTeddington]

Lautrec did so well too, but he ended up dancing around too much.

[@moradan81]

It's basically how this fight goes for a newbie player who is underlevel. Doubts and the inability to focus the real one are the only things that can make this challenging, and that is if you don't two shot the thing.

[@alexcrick8010]

Nico taking a year and a half to realize pinwheel ported behind him is so good haha

[@michaelcollins4534]

12:38 Pinwheel: HELL ZONE GRENADE Ingward: ah man it's even got a cool name

[@weskerrun4647]

Who’s got two broken arms and is a total bitch?