Can Players Like Paige Bueckers Be Propped Up Without Mentioning Caitlin Clark?

[@chanediedericks]

OPNION FROM AN OUTSIDER FROM SOUTH AFRICA: Most of this is centered around college loyalty. And some people don’t know when to put a pause on loyalty to a college and when to appreciate talent. Every single person who has doubted CC has been from one big school or another. IMO 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@LoloLV24]

They all want to denounce Caitlin Clark while riding on her coat tails.

[@petep5207]

The REAL question is...."Can Caitlin Clark be recognized and given her due credit and praise...WITHOUT mentioning every single player to ever play the game?"

[@jayburnham3994]

Nope not going to happen

[@michelleliberman5493]

Thank you!

[@JaimeTanner-b2i]

What other players? Never heard of 'em.😊

[@marisoltammero3331]

Have you noticed that? Every time someone wants to praise CC, we have to remember/acknowledge the 1,000 other women that came before her.

[@396375a]

Caitlin is the only WNBA/college player who has that "are you not entertained" aura about her. It's not complicated!!!

[@nina_6789]

Shame on the media that continues to put down on CC yet use her to pop up Paige and JuJu

[@michaeldwight3212]

There are several women basketball players that are extremely talented and skilled but the big difference is the fact Caitlin is a point guard that is so far above them all because of how phenomenal she is in so many ways. It sets her apart light years ahead of them all.

[@Vadimony]

Caitlin Clark ranks #1 in PPG in NCAA history. Caitlin Clark ranks #8 in APG in NCAA history. So yeah, you have to compare everything college-related to her. Caitlin Clark ranks higher than Courtney Vandersloot in college career APG. And basically all others besides Tiana Mangakahia (only player in the 2000's that ranked higher than Clark: year 2018-2021; Syracuse) as every other player was pre-1999. So, yes, she is the standard of the "highest" level of a G.O.A.T. caliber player and therefore every other player is compared to her.

[@Vadimony]

And for the advanced stats lovers, Clark ranks 11th in Win Shares--with standard notable names like Fowles, Stewart, Moore, Griner, Charles, Collier, and Ogumike ahead of her due to their school affiliations at the time. The surprising one is Elena Delle Donne that made to 5th (47 W/S vs CC's 41 W/S) despite being at the lesser-known Delaware school. Paige is ranked 120th. Angel Reese is 71. Aja Wilson is 37. Sabrina is 15th. You get the gist of it... Paige isn't "Clark before Clark" because she literally ranks nowhere on the echelon of statistical dominance and will need a 6th year to climb the ranks to even be in the same sentence as Clark.

[@michelleblanc6377]

@Vadimony The problem is people compare HS records and Championships at HS level and compare players from different school systems in different regions with different levels of competition and try to claim who is better based on that. The players barely cross paths while they are in College which makes comparisons difficult now you want to compare them in HS and draw irrefutable conclusions based on that? Come on. When people say they have extensive basketball knowledge and want to sell me on stuff like this. I just can’t help but burst out laughing. Either you take me (and everyone else that listens to this stuff) as complete morons or you’re making your stuff up as you go along and you’re not realizing how much BS you are currently regurgitating. Anyways as far as I am concerned nobody was CC before CC because nobody did what CC did before she did it.

[@motherofthreeb6337]

....are compared to her.

[@SGriTa913]

The more you try to force "stars" on people the more people will start rejecting them...I rock with Hannah.

[@marisoltammero3331]

Love Hannah!!

[@jon-jl7fl]

IF she's so good how come she hasn't broken any of Catlin's college records

[@kristenmichelle3467]

So funny story or not, but I am cc fan through Paige. I loved PB and never heard of CC until they made a big deal out of the UConn Iowa matchup Paige’s freshman year. I watched that game and CC outplayed her and I walked away a CC fan. I realized then CC was the better more entertaining player and Paige was on the better team. Still watch PB some… so yes you can be a fan of both. I was the biggest UConn fan too and found little by little I stopped watching them and ended up becoming an Iowa Stan 😂

[@motherofthreeb6337]

😂😂😂

[@mariettedorobis6967]

lol I so relate to this - I started watching Paige until Sue talked about CC, and then when I watched CC there was no going back

[@dmar191]

The country has spoken with what matters - our wallets. Media can trying to spin this however they want. We made our choice. Caitlin is a true role model.

[@vondaphillips]

Paige will never have the fanfare Caitlin has and she will not break as many records as Clark Clark beat her head to head yea Paige knew she wasn’t going number 1 in the draft cause Clark is way better!!!! Paige will not sell out her games on the road!!!!!

[@timmyfoxworth6710]

Caitlin goes play golf. Has fans take over. But the leaders show her respect love and treats her right. Wnba could learn from them ,and let the jealousy go.

[@lucysalas2314]

Thank you, so sick of the media comparing Caitlin with other players. They need to stop. Let these kids play

[@rockyeades5935]

Yeah, Paige is good. But Auriemma has pretty much beaten out of her the stuff that made her "Caitlin Clark before Caitlin Clark". She may be the next Sue Bird when she gets to the WNBA, but I doubt she'll be the next Caitlin Clark. Milaysia Fulwiley has the best chance of being the next Caitlin Clark - unless Dawn Staley destroys her at South Carolina.

[@marisoltammero3331]

@@rockyeades5935 Free Milaysia!!!! Get to Iowa, girl!!

[@smoothblink]

I totally agree with this take...it's ok to build rivalries through basketball comparisons/jokes/insults. If she had gone for Caitlin on a pure basketball level it would've been totally fine. Or just talked about how much she loved Paige's speech on its own. It's when you add in all this offcourt comparison stuff that it's no longer friendly sports talk. Tiktok is weird, man. Stay offline more, everybody.

[@Doomguy9OOO]

Everyone comparing people to Caitlin Clark im okay with because great players get compared to alot because they are the standard of greatness. What confuses me is how you can use caitlin as the standard for greatness to compare people to and then simultaneously say shes not a great player, then why are you comparing every player with supposed greatness to Caitlin clark? Nobody is comparing people to Angel Reese, just saying

[@michaeldwight3212]

As an Iowa fan this women is a liar about Iowa beat UCONN on an illegal screen with time left in the game. If "they" wanted Caitlin to win the title then how come Iowa lost? That invalidates her mindless drivel.

[@karencarlisle2887]

Iowa won fair. They will always try to take away from Clark's achievements. Tearing her down is what they use to build up whomever they find. Jealousy isn't a good look.

[@ALLENONDRO]

I don’t know what the IT FACTOR is. But I know it when I see it. Clark has it. Paige doesn’t. No one currently playing does, except Clark. It is what it is. 🤷‍♂️

[@wajj1842]

"Probably the most universally liked person in sports". Liked how? What does that even mean? As a person? As a basketball player? As a superstar? If she is referring to popularity or influence, Paige is not in the same league as Caitlin Clark.

[@mariettedorobis6967]

It’s also not a good sign lol, every great has had haters

[@jon-jl7fl]

They Love Paige because she's WOKE

[@tonyleukering8832]

And it's bad to care about those less fortunate? Truly? I've got news for you: Caitlin is no different. And WTH does politics have to do with playing basketball?

[@mlouise1828]

Clark is popular outside US on her sophomore year, she's often in sports news and her highlights gone viral on tik tok, on you tube, the overrated game. The people who were lock at home because of covid were able to see her play, thats why she gain a big fan base around the world. Paige is good like others, it's just that they have no star appeal, the aura that CC and MJ have.

[@lucysalas2314]

I feel so sorry for Paige, with all she’s been through

[@philipmtran05]

UConn media is trying to "manufacture" Paige to be ABOVE CC levels and the media machine is in FULL Speed. By trying to organic growth based on Paige skill levels and fandom draw then Paige is NOT even close to CC while Paige was in Bahama tournament with ONLY draw 567 fans to be inside the gym to watch her and UConn play. Last year, CC and Iowa Hawkeyes were drawing from 3,000 plus to FULL gym crowd in the Caribbean final when they beat up Kansas City State. Fandom crowd is EARN-work thru organic hard work and fantastic BB plays and NOT "Manufacture" or Hype machine....

[@GhostofGerulaitis]

I learned about Paige years ago via her high school KZbin highlights. Then Geno and injury made her boring, but the bean-counters discovered fans like thrillers, so now they're trying everything they can to re-hype Paige. Honestly, I hope they're successful. Paige was a fantastic talent as a kid and I would love to see her regain that spark.

[@eveyrapp2078]

This Tic tok " Influencer" was paid for this video. Let's not be naive. P R is doing their job ,which is why we are being blitzed with Paige videos,articles and commentary. Just watch 👀

[@mariettedorobis6967]

This does check out… it’s weird they keep using her activism as PR, the point of activism isn’t good press lol

[@harmansandhu9753]

Paige just played a game in front of 576 people in a 15000 arena. Trying to force or guilt fans into watching someone does not work because it’s the skill that matters on the court and not your skin color or political beliefs.

[@janiv6621]

There is nothing not to like about PB. She's just not as likeable as CC22. Also, availability is an ability very looked out for now in pro-basketball. And with the new money coming to the WNBA, i wonder if owners/GM's would invest a big chunk of their cap space for someone who has a history of being not available to play.

[@danncorbit3623]

I think it is a bad idea to push labels on the college kids. Walter Dinky Proctor was supposed to be the next Ervin Magic Johnson. If you said, "Who?" that's not Walter's fault. JuJu and Paige are really good players. But calling them the next Caitlin Clark is a disservice to those players.

[@ToddDietrich-i4s]

I hate when they compare players to Caitlin Clark. Clark is a generational talent. Broke college records and attendance. Little girls screaming for her autographs. Trying to compare these new players coming up is unfair. Raising expectations they might never meet. Paige is talented and gifted. Can't we just leave it at that?

[@vondaphillips]

Paige doesn’t have an it factor!!!

[@vondaphillips]

They don’t have to bring Angel up all the time no body cares to watch Angel play BB

[@rlrudedog]

Never getting to see Paige play mainly on ESPN and I am on the west coast, Paige could be hearing or reading an outstanding player. Only I am not reading numbers at her game like most over great players. She will go to the WNBA like Stewart with a few fans having nothing like 200,000 maybe 5,000. Problem being according to her coach Geno, Paige will have problems in the WNBA not having the body to take the hits. Paige will not receive the blows or dislikes one player had rookie season or that could be three players. Wilson has said Paige will be more than welcome to the WNBA mainly not for basketball, oh no not this activist league. For her standing up to BLM and such. After this brief clip about Paige, I am not sure she will hold up long in the league of these pros having the physical problems in the past. What has been so forth Paige will not be having the sales and fans like we have seen in 2024.

[@hoopsfan4528]

Borat: "Caitlin Clark is greatest player in the world. All others play like little girls."

[@lindysmallwood2039]

It would be great if all media would stop comparing basketball players. They all have a different style of playing basketball. Certain players have a charisma about them and draw you in. WNBA has a lot of great efficient players, but unfortunately not good humans. Remember professional basketball is an entertainment venue. You can be the best basketball player in the world and the worse person and people are not going to support you. I haven’t mentioned any players in this comment, but you did think about individual players while reading my comment. Skill and character makes a difference on the court and in viewership. 🌺

[@GOLDKW-bl4gp]

Would be nice if the media can stop comparing these players to CC. Kind of makes the media really stupid and puts a undo burden on these college women. All the Social Justice stuff will make Bueckers journey in the WNBA a easier transition. CC will still have similar issues in 2025. Might get worse depending on if Unrivaled is a success or failure.

[@stevenoverbey4239]

I am sorry, this is just an example of Big School Program vs Non Basketball Powerhouse. If Paige is BUCKETS then where are her scoring records in college? She will never break the records CC has set so everyone should just quit calling her the greatest until she really is, which may never happen. Everyone of these great players the media hypes JuJu, Hildago, Plum, Wilson, Stewart, Inoescu, Reese, Paige etc., are all compared to Caitlin Clark. But if you notice no one ever points out all the records she has set both in college and the WNBA. Where all all the records for all the other players? They didn't set them or they were broken by Caitlin Clark. When will the jealousy, pettiness, bullying and racism stop toward Clark. If she wins the MVP and the Fever get to the WNBA finals, she will still have the same basketball haters who will find she owes her success to someone else.

[@steveshort1121]

I just wanna watch the Fever again. Whatever with Unrivaled, Aja, Paige, JuJu, Angel ....blah, blah, blah Gimme Caitlin and Kelsey at Gainbridge and I'll be happy

[@fernandopaterno3710]

Yes float their boats but CC is above C level😅😅😅😅

[@mariettedorobis6967]

It’s funny because Caitlin also participated in marches and protests for BLM, but she’s not looking for props because of it, because that’s not the point of activism

[@GOLDKW-bl4gp]

These women are getting paid a lot of money and receiving a ton of media attention. Are they going to stay hungry. Every off season MJ had a goal. One year it was to become a better 3 point shooter. CC goal this year was to get better at her mid range game and floaters. One of the most media generated athlete looks exactly the same as last year with lower FG%. She has been extremely busy off the court. Is she going to pound the pavement to keep elevating her game. Or is she content with being famous. Time will tell.

[@robw1031]

Paige is injury-prone. I wonder if WMBA teams can access her rehab reports before drafting an injury-prone player. One would think a team would want to know more about the causation and condition, such as genetics, biomechanics, overtraining, or muscle imbalances. Are they just relying on peptide and stem cell therapy instead of correcting the causes? I don't think she is a good first-round pick if a team is looking for longevity. Also, I wonder if a team can build around an injury-prone player.

[@johnnix3623]

Hell no

[@artshaffer9255]

OMG - everyone bow down and kiss the ground. According to the clip we're lucky being allowed to witness the Buckets miracle! The Espy crowd also says it so it must be true? Eh?

[@moniquemorris5833]

Caitlin Clark is the gold standard so everyone is going to get compared to her 😂 Heavy is the head that wears the crown. I wish this girl could've said nice things about Paige without throwing shade at my girl. Paige needs to learn to not turn her back to the inbounder and she needs to tell her teammates not to set illegal screens if she wants to get a natty. This might be her year.

[@sjchai166]

When she said PB gave the speech, then the video is not relevant anymore.

[@michelleblanc6377]

You cannot bring CC when a basketball situation remind you of CC which is perfectly legitimate when you want to draw a comparison. But every single time you mention Clark you have to mention another WNBA player even if the conversation doesn’t require a comparison or even if the player doesn’t compare to CC. This just shows the hypocrisy of how this league that cannot embrace her phenomenon and cannot wait to hitch their wagon to another player to be able to move on from her. Meanwhile the other professional leagues could just hope to have a comparable marketing phenomenon that they could hitch their wagon (This is why whenever they have an opportunity LPGA, NBA, MLB cannot wait but jump at the opportunity to do joint activities where she can help promote their league). Hopefully the WNBA will start seeing the error of their ways and start embracing the phenomenon in order to get the league the level of recognition it deserves but that will never happen if they stick to their current merry go round.

[@mazzas-OZ]

Nope

[@RolieVerSinganon-es8lr]

CC22 ❤🇵🇭

[@SkyDLegend]

I honnestly like Paige game better , she is more efficient , better mid range , she drag a team of 7 players to the final 4. the reason a start watching woman hooping was the video Paige add online 5 year ago , C.C is fun to watch but i don't think being good at logo 3 mean she is the best player that ever exsisted

[@GeeAmbler]

All these UConn homers / CC haters simply can not keep her name out they mouth 😆. Just be happy to rock with PB and leave it at that! Your favorite player not getting the shine you think that's due? Go be mad at Geno Auriemma, who has a knack for turning McDonalds All Americans / Gatorade PoYs into glorified role players in order to pad his own legacy.

[@steveshort1121]

Paige averages 20, 4.5 and 4.5...really good numbers but nothing amazing...

[@JayAli-u3x]

Dude that’s Jalen Roses daughter

[@pijv6289]

NOPE !

[@timmyfoxworth6710]

Clark could play checkers and draw more than most of these players playing basketball ,why I don't know she just h a s it. All I can say.

[@DonKJB]

As someone who was a Caitlin fan waaay b4 y'all bandwagoners.. Paige was a megastar since High School. _Paige was LeBron of WBB b4 y'all knew CC existed._ Then ACL happened.

[@marisoltammero3331]

@@DonKJB Poor Paige got Wally Pipped.

[@mariettedorobis6967]

But her ACL tear didn’t really have anything to do with Caitlin’s success, like even if Paige had not been injured, Caitlin would’ve still gone on her March madness tear and then broke the all time scoring record. I just don’t see how Paige once being the media darling somehow means she’s better than Caitlin. Things often change for athletes from high school to the pros

[@DonKJB]

@mariettedorobis6967 so if Caitlin couldn't play for a year.. U would drop everything and no longer watch WBB??? The world moves on. Paige been a phenom since junior in High School days. Caitlin never had that pressure except last couple years after LSU game. They're both great but Paige been in the spotlight much longer.

[@Mirror_of_the_Soul00]

This is YPUR you can talk about Clark all you want. Just don't talk about LeBron unless you are insulting him

[@denisebailey3226]

Paige seems like an amazing young lady. Thanks for sharing her background! Look forward to watching her play in the WNBA. Ju Ju Watkins is also one heck of a talent. . . . . she just got a major NIL deal with State Farm. Flau'jae Johnson is another one who will be taking the spotlight. . . . this young lady got game. Olivia Miles getting drafted this year . . . she will be one of the best who plays defense really well. Don't worry they won't be mentioning Clark's name much longer, soon will be a distant memory compared to these up-and-coming superstars.

[@Paul-b5n7x]

You along with many others are afraid that if you don’t talk about Caitlin, no one will tune into your channel, it’s probably true.

[@TheRobinLundberg]

How do you explain this? Dawn Staley and MiLaysia Fulwiley Dynamic Dominates South Carolina Loss Discussion! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKOZnZd5mdWdnas

[@gillie60]

You are also afraid that if you don't talk about Caitlin you comment will get no replies. It's probably true.

[@bartell20j]

Tf is aura?

[@Bludersbunch]

Bla blah blah... attendance, merch sales, viewers, dollars are what matter.

[@jayburnham3994]

Thats what you think. What matters is who can give the best speech about the injustice of the world

[@petep5207]

@@jayburnham3994 Depends from whose perspective.

[@jayburnham3994]

@@petep5207 im kidding. I just want sports to be fun.

[@denisebailey3226]

The white man's way of thinking. . . . 🤔

[@ericMT]

Shoutout to Coach Bob Buckets. I’m sure he’s proud of his daughter’s accomplishments.

[@ericMT]

You always compare the new product to the gold standard. That’s just how it works.

[@phillipsimpson447]

propped up? in High School the most talked about female player in the nation was Paige. In Caitlyn and Paige freshmen year in college the most talked about female player in the country was Paige who by the way won every conceivable award. No one has to prop up this young lady. Caitlyn as great as she is has one win against two losses to Buecker's. Stop with the nonsense.

[@mariettedorobis6967]

Yeah and Caitlin won all those same awards last year, so seems things have changed! Also she only lost to Paige once, get your facts straight

[@CodyCha]

Too much yapping about who’s better, who’s generational, etc. All the yapping is not going to make people go watch games, buy jerseys

[@Paul-b5n7x]

It’s people like you that carry on this topic. How about coming up with a new topic.

[@marshoops]

No one dislikes CC, and no one cares if she’s the most popular or considered ‘the face’ of the league. The real issue is the delusional and over-the-top takes about a player who hasn’t won anything at any level. You’re the ones constantly comparing CC to everyone else, not us. You’ve had this channel for three years but only started talking about CC seven months ago-never even mentioned her during her college days. It’s the delusion that’s the problem for me.

[@TheRobinLundberg]

How many videos I have before several months ago? And when did I ever lie about how this all came to be?

[@godkot4466]

Keep telling yourself that, if that makes you feel better.

[@marshoops]

@@TheRobinLundberg I watch all your videos, but I don’t comment on every one. But often times, I felt the need to hold up a mirror and call out your hypocrisy. Everything the girl did in that video, you’ve done yourself-even in the ‘Caitlin was a star before Angel Reese’ video, you did the exact same thing. 😂 Now, show me where I lied in my initial comment, and I’ll delete it.

[@pugdova1138]

@@marshoops "You’re the ones constantly comparing CC to everyone else, not us"... There's the lie.

[@Bigrod8673]

@@marshoopsPaige is an amazing player, but between her injuries/privileged video/she is part of the gay community… . CC was selling out stadiums, before Reece was around. CC was part (Paige, Boston were also on that team) of the jr Olympics that won gold medals. If you need more info on what CC has accomplished use google. Please remember there are girls out there, probably better than Paige that didn’t get the same opportunity as Paige, and media coverage like Paige did.

[@denisebailey3226]

Clark has been given more exposure and recognition than any other sports person on earth and people is getting bored and tired of it as you can see. People want to hear more about the other player's more. You will have the opportunity to do that during "Unrivaled". Let's see if you take advantage of the opportunity.🤔

[@lindysmallwood2039]

Is there a player in Unrivaled that has the skill and the character that will bring the viewership? Will have to wait and see. 3x3 is not a popular venue for basketball. Unrivaled failed at having the opportunity of having support from fans coming to the games with a 850 seat arena. Unrivaled put are their eggs in one basket for TV viewership.

[@denisebailey3226]

@@lindysmallwood2039 that is going to be the new way of doing business with sports. If you watch the games overseas that the ladies are playing in, they have about 50-60 people in attendance in the seats. . . . . .but the women basketball players are being paid millions over there. The only way they can possible do that is through advertisements and viewership. What other way can they be doing it? I watch the overseas games early morning with Kamilla Cordosa, Chennedy Carter, and I watched one with KM. They have about 60 people at the most in attendance. Explain that please?

[@gillie60]

Unrivaled what? That's a useless league with two missing players riding on the coat tails of Clark.

[@denisebailey3226]

@@gillie60 someone with a avatar of a cartoon talking shit. Scared to show your damn face. Go sit down somewhere. I don't know why I respond to simple people like you. lol

[@Bangs_Theory]

If Caitlin Clark is the most popular athlete in the world, then what's all the crying about that she isn't getting the credit she deserves? We're not building her a gold statue, so please stop with the snowflake tears.

[@gillie60]

You're the one crying. You can't even stop mentioning Clark

[@kentcarlson1841]

Caitlin Clark is that one of one period . The rest are unto their own future .