Can Shotgun Mics Be Used Indoors | Pencil Mics vs Shotgun Mics

I'm sure you heard the advice online that shotgun mics are bad for indoor audio because of phasing. This is very true for an untreated room with reflections. Sound phasing from shotgun mics and their interference tube is unpredictable and can ruin a video. Better overall mics for indoor dialogue are small condenser pencil mics. In this video, I'll go over the differences and do a sound test with a treated and untreated room.
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[@DT-yt2zh]

Didn't hear any phasing in the kitchen. The 416 sounded better in the kitchen, and the Sennheiser picked up all sorts of reflections.

[@tomwadek]

The 416 did well. I was surprised too

[@massimozirilli3282]

Thanks. Really useful video, in the kitchen actually the Pencil picked up a lot of room reverb, so ok a Shotgun could create a weird phasing effect, but a really light phasing effect is far better than a room reverb

[@TomWadeCine]

Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I agree, the 416 did very well in the reverb kitchen. I did hear some phasing but it was light and only for a few seconds. Cheers

[@GuyCochran1]

Thanks for sharing. Interested in learning what is the audio chain from mic to what we’re hearing?

[@TomWadeCine]

Coming soon!

[@rumorscameras]

think if you use a foam tube u ll be reducing the risk, it is like sound proofing the incoming sound instead of soundproofing the room, there are thincker foam tubes and also try the outfoor blimp without the foam tube,,,,the pencil in echoyyyrooms captures all the echoooo reverb, not the best, even though it is used mostly indoors it is used in open studios and or treated spaces where no reflections happen anyways ,,,not nevcessarily made for reverberant rooms for beginners for example

[@TomWadeCine]

All great points. Thanks for commenting.

[@krzysiek5209]

I want to buy a microphone for meetings where it will be positioned outside the frame. I heard that the Audio-Technica AT875R is a great value. Would it work in an untreated room?

[@TomWadeCine]

Indoor I would go with the one in this video, AT4053b

[@krzysiek5209]

@@TomWadeCine Thanks!

[@elili]

After you managed to invoke an Orwellian double-think moment for me from the theory vs. kitchen demo, I can't help asking: have you ever considered entering current politics?

[@TomWadeCine]

all the time!

[@dougshiloh3391]

Which pencil mics are “comparable” for indoor film dialogue that are less in budget? Want the 600 for outdoor.

[@TomWadeCine]

I got the at4053b used for $300