Can Straight People Be In LGBTQIA+ Community???

[@user-ip1jc1pe7p]

We are real and we are valid.

[@TranquilityChiba]

So Heteroromantic aces and heterosexual aros aren't straight unless they identify that. Because being ace/aro is part of the lgbtq+ community. They ARE part of the community just like heterosexual trans and intersex people. They are LGBTQ+! The only person who can say otherwise is an individual about themselves. We shouldn't gatekeep it weakens us. (Im not angry just very passionate on this subject)

[@amberbaker1122]

👏👏👏

[@farisakhtar4824]

I'm heterosexual Aromantic and would never identify as straight. I don't relate to straight men at all and do many people throughout my life mistake me for being gay due to a lack of romantic interest in women.

[@ashomox3781]

​@@farisakhtar4824and that's totally fine! Everyone is on their own journey with their own labels.

[@Nottiy]

This is exactly why i avoid very young people. You do not belong here and all I've seen from asexuals is demented homophobia because you think the lgbt community exists for validation and throw buzzwords at people with credible questions. Its a community of people impacted by types of homophobia which you don't experience

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

There are also straight cis partners of queer people who are technically in the community while not being a part of the community. Not queer themselves, but they go to events and support their partner. My favorite moment was when a straight t4t couple got flack because they passed so well😅

[@LilMissSpeeedy01]

I am straight and aroaceflux

[@beckheorshepls5397]

Solidarity forever 🎶

[@jimiwills]

Yep

[@ErnestoRamirez-bp9ms]

I love the lgbtq community 😊🎉❤

[@collyernicholasjohn]

Would we want to be?

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

There is safety in a community, but it's your choice. If you can pass that's good for you.

[@collyernicholasjohn]

@@HotDogTimeMachine385 more than 50% of “trans-women“ in prison are there for sex offences. So much for safety.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@HotDogTimeMachine385 According to crime stats in the US, UK, Australia and many other countries, trans people are the safest demographic from being unalived. In one UK 10-year period, more trans people killed others than were killed by non-trans people, so you should be safe unless you’re in places like Brazil and Mexico, where no one is safe.

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

​@@collyernicholasjohn Great selective statistic. Instead of looking at the hundreds of trans victims you immediately look at the vastly smaller amount of trans people who committed crimes. Great job not caring about people getting attacked or killed and only caring when a handful of them make crimes. And pretend they represent the majority. You'd be a great cop. Ignore that certain groups get victimized all the time and only talk when one of these people are the perps. I wonder, do you take the same approach when priests are revealed to be sex offenders? Or is THAT situation completely different and you shouldn't base your entire opinion off a minority. It's funny, since trans sex offenders actually get sent to prison, while priests are usually just relocated and covered up. How about you are earnest in your opinion and not needlessly cruel towards other? I promise, being an educated well informed person is good.

[@marshwalker7217]

Per capita is the statistic you want. Not sure if you're intentionally skewing things or are just ignorant but its not a good look. The stats in the US at least are not pretty.

[@user-hd9qc4kk5j]

Why would they want to

[@thoriumsucks7142]

We on gaytube again

[@ashomox3781]

HECK YEAH GAYTUBE FOR LIFE 😎

[@ashomox3781]

I believe that straight people are allies unless they are trans or intersex. It's the lgbTqIA+ for a reason. They are real and deserve to be loved.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

With the 2SLGBTQIA+ community constantly expanding and becoming more inclusive, why aren’t straight people included?

[@ashomox3781]

@@littlecatfeet9064 what does the 2S stand for? I want to make sure I'm up to date on the terms. Now addressing the rest of the comment, the reason straight cis people aren't in the community is because straight has always been viewed as "normal" and we are trying to combat the concept of a normal person. We are all different in our own way. As violent as this is I can compare it to war. The homophobic and transphobic people are fighting on one side and the LGBTQIA+ community is fighting on the other. Then straight cis allies are fighting alongside us. France and the UK are allies but not the same country. Does this analogy help?

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@ashomox3781 2S apparently stands for 2-spirit. It’s supposed to be a term taken from some Native American nations who believed in an idea of a third sex (in reality, a woman who lived socially as a man or vice versa) but like many concepts in trans/queer ideology was made up by white people in the 20th century, in this case a member of the Canadian Radical Faeries in the early 90s. Though there are some examples in some nations of people living this way, it’s not ascribed to widespread belief that the gender nonconforming person is actually the opposite sex the way trans activists describe it now. Gender the way people claim to understand it now was invented by controversial New Zealand sexologist John Money in 1955 based on studies of intersex people and contains the usual misinformation that their existence disproves the sex binary. That’s like saying that people born with one or no legs disproves the assertion that humans are bipedal, but the social sciences have embraced the spectrum and now it’s been taught in schools. I’ll address the rest of your comment separately.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@ashomox3781 ok, your analogy helps me understand where you’re coming from. I have some experience in the thinking of straight v anyone else when I came out at 15 in 1984 in a same sex relationship. It was not received well. However, between then and the passing of marriage equality acts from 2014-2020 there were huge changes throughout the West in acceptance of and attitudes to the alphabet community. Obviously the first was marriage itself, but the changes include employment policies, media representation and the dubious honour of Pride Month and progress Pride flags flown from every government building from Tennessee to Tasmania. There’s also 20% of Gen Z in some countries identifying as not straight and we now have a situation where being LGBTQIA+ is not only accepted, but is given more social cache than being straight. The majority of straight and otherwise people ARE normal and want the same things, just like people in France and the UK have more in common than differences. In fact, the only homophobia I see now comes from radical trans activists insisting, for example, that lesbians must like penises and the Christian right insisting that marriage equality led to radical trans ideology. Let’s call them China and Russia respectively, because while the ordinary people living there are fine their governments are hostile to the UK and France. Just like ordinary trans people and Christians are fine but those who speak on their behalf are hostile to people who aren’t them. I have more in common with any woman who believes in single sex spaces than a trans ideologue who thinks any man can pretend to be a woman and that we should be called people with uteruses. And plenty of straight people are as concerned as I am that transing legal minors erases the identity of the 85% of them who are same sex attracted. Don’t get me started on straight people who identify as queer and nonbinary to feel special. I would not call them allies. If we can counter the hostility of China (the trans lobby that wants to enforce acceptance and dehumanise women and children) and Russia (the Christian lobby that wants to force us back in the closet), no one needs to go to war. We were fine.

[@ashomox3781]

@@littlecatfeet9064 okay, since your comment on 2s doesn't show up regularly for some reason I will just say thank you for the clarification, and move on. I see I am a lot younger than you, so I may not understand near as many big alphabet mafia (🤣 I love using that term it's so funny🤣) events especially because I only started my research a few years ago. Now I struggle to find any official research that suggests being LGBT+ is more popular than being straight, but taking your word for it, this means we are winning. Eventually when acts of violence against the community stops pride month will hopefully become a historical appreciation, which it already is to some extent, celebrating how far we've come, but also how far we must go. There are many places where being LGBT+ publicly is dangerous. Just Google a map of where it's illegal to be LGBT. All those places we still must fight for. So no. It's not just "Russia" and "China" they are large groups, but not it. (Though I disagree with a few of your remarks about the RTA I will not get into that as that isn't the main point.) I love internet debates, it's quite fun to learn new things and talk about controversial stuff (humanely ofc) with strangers.

[@realtmontana]

your hand is so much smaller then your face

[@unapologetic3674]

I'm a very progressive and understanding person but now it is just too much, I'm so over all this BS

[@DeadlyNightShadeBloom]

Everything alright?

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

How is "some trans women are attracted to men" and "straight intersex people exist" where you draw the line? 🤨 Doesn't sound like you're progressive and understanding if you can't accept the bare minimum that trans women are attracted to men.

[@Devlinator61116]

How is it too much? The T stand for transgender and a person can be both trans and heterosexual.

[@DasOrangensaft.]

What is too much?

[@endo9902]

how is this conversation relate to being too much... in progressive and understanding scale? (perhaps this is were your understanding ends? lol)