Can't Stand Losing You (The Police); drum cover by Sina

Stewart Copeland is still regarded as one of the great drummers in Rock, more than 4 decades after the debut album of The Police was launched. This song is taken from The Police's debut album and it features some typical elements of Stewart's highly dynamic style.
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[@darrencady4261]

She certainly is very good. Stewart Copeland would be very proud of her performance. Very talented young lady.

[@MrN2hendrix]

Stewart Copeland would be proud of you

[@sheavonmarryshow8488]

Copeland did some sick drumming in voices inside my head.lol

[@darrencady4261]

I second that. Sina is great.

[@sheavonmarryshow8488]

@@darrencady4261 yeah it's voices inside my head. The drumming is very sick. Stewart did excellent drumming in that sound.

[@alf.2929]

The crazy thing is she probably plays better than Copeland. There's a video of them playing at a concert and Copeland wasn't keeping time. Sting had to motion him to slow down.

[@sheavonmarryshow8488]

@@alf.2929 yeah Stewart had plenty.speed.lol

[@jacquesmertens3369]

I've been a life long fan of Stewart Copeland. Never thought anyone would be able to match his style so perfectly. And that's just what you did. I'm blown away.

[@thomasn.3277]

This!!

[@audtom52]

I 2nd that

[@markvanoosterhout5074]

And once more!

[@julietp.5877]

After three years Sina calls the police again! What a way to start Black Friday... THE SONG - "Can't Stand Losing You" was written and sung by Police bassist Sting (Gordon Sumner). It was recorded between January and June 1978 at Nigel Gray's Surrey Sound Studios along with the other songs for the band's debut album 'Outlandos d'Amour'. The album was recorded on a GBP 1500 budget provided by drummer Stewart Copeland's brother Miles. After hearing "Roxanne", Miles persuaded A&M Records to release it which they did on Apr 7, 1978 but it failed to chart. The label gave the band another chance with "Can't Stand Losing You" which was released for the first time on Aug 14, 1978. It was a hit, reaching #48 on the UK charts in late 1978 and A&M then released the 'Outlandos d'Amour' album on Nov 2, 1978. In the US, the album entered the Billboard 200 chart at #139 on Mar 3, 1979, peaked at #23 on May 5, and was last seen at #184 on Sep 1, 1979 with 27 weeks on the chart. Following the album release, both "Roxanne" and "Can't Stand Losing You" were reissued. "Can't Stand Losing You" didn't chart in the US but reached #2 in the UK."Roxanne" was a hit in the US, peaking at #32 of the Billboard Hot 100 in April 1979 and reached #12 in the UK. "Can't Stand Losing You" deals with teenage suicide, a touchy subject, and some were put off by the light treatment and the initial cover artwork that showed a hooded Stewart Copeland hanging himself. The BBC banned the song. According to Sting, it was due to the artwork but some writers say it was the morbid content. As is often the case, the ban enhanced the song's popularity and may have helped it become the band's first charting single. THE DRUMMER - Stewart Copeland was born in Alexandria, Virginia USA but spent much of his youth abroad in the Middle East and the UK. His father worked for the CIA and his mother was an archeologist. In his early teens, while in Lebanon, he started playing on his older brother's drums. His father, who had played jazz trumpet for Glenn Miller, arranged lessons with an Armenian who played in a hotel jazz band. When Stewart moved to the UK, he studied with Max Abrams. He told 'Modern Drummer', in Oct 1982, that he tuned his drum heads very tight, "The only thing I actually do myself is tune the heads, which I do rock hard all the way around. The entire drumset is about to pop; I have them as tight as they’ll go." He used an Imperial Star TAMA set with 9-ply rather than 6-ply shells to handle the additional tension. His playing style is unique as well. He's a very physical, hard-hitting drummer and uses a slightly altered traditional grip, often hitting the drum rims at the same time as the heads in a semi-rimshot for a percussive effect. Although his early influences included Middle-Eastern music and jazz, he was into Mitch Mitchell and Ginger Baker and drew inspiration from their playing in a trio. The freedom to improvise led to bringing jazz elements into rock playing like syncopation, complex fills and jazz rhythms on the cymbals. Stewart Copeland was inducted into the 'Modern Drummer' Hall of Fame in 2005, the 'Classic Drummer' Hall of Fame in 2013 and was ranked #10 in 'Rolling Stone's' "100 Greatest Drummers of All Time". Sina has two previous Police covers. Look for "Roxanne" (Aug 27, 2015) and "Message In A Bottle" (Dec 18, 2015) so she is familiar with Copeland's style. Rosanna, as usual, had a few questions - RO: Considering his various influences, what elements of Copeland's style did you want to emulate? SINA: I think Stewart Copeland added many reggae elements in this song. I copied what he did without thinking about the genre, but of course I also played the song in a reggae and rock style. RO: I believe you're using the butt-end of the left stick. Was that for more power or to emphasize the rim clicks? SINA: Yes, I use the butt-end of the left stick. That's because of the rim clicks. My dad isn't pleased when I play the loud snare hits too loud, because that makes it difficult to hear the more quiet ones. So I try to avoid doing these very loud snare hits like Copeland did. RO: Stewart often does complex rim click patterns. You do this at around 1:40. Is that something you've done before or just adapted from his playing for this song? SINA: We practised that in Drummer's Institute when we learned about Brazilian music, so it was not difficult for me to do it in this song. But I'm sure I would find rim click patterns in Police songs that I would have to practise a few minutes before I could play it. UNSOLICITED SHOPPING HINT - If you're doing your Black Friday shopping online, check out Sina's merch at girls-got-groove.com/shop/ Tell 'em Niki sent you... that really won't help but Niki insisted! :D

[@davebeck8973]

Juliet P. Black Friday just turned into a bright Friday after watching this performance!

[@JohnDoe-np3zk]

@@davebeck8973 it's a way harder drum part than I recall and she rocked it as per.

[@lonnierichter6962]

all the audio merchandise is great, I have all of it, I also have 1 of the coffee cups, which is also a great buy, I bought a copy of both Chi Might CD's, 1 and 2, for gifts, for my family and friends for Christmas, they make great gift ideas also.

[@joetownsend343]

Thanks, Juliet and Ro. Great write-up and love the interview parts. :) You are both a great asset to the Sina Drums channel!

[@johnbrady1211]

Thanks Juliet and Ro. A Sina video would not be the same without your very interesting comments.

[@aldrinalteza7497]

Stewart Copeland is one of my favorite drummer. This is tough.

[@johngray9434]

Stewart Copeland would be proud! Amazingly talented young drummer and so great to new new generations of musicians playing their music 40 years later!

[@jollyroger2012]

my two favorite drummers of all time are Neil Peart, and Stewart Copeland. You do them both justice! awesome! keep it going!!!!

[@bryanmorgan8940]

Ahhhhhh!! 1979 !!! Stewart Copeland one of the best drummers in the world!!

[@waltermameli2026]

This is a drummers song and This girl is without a doubt a drummer.....Great display of talent.....simply great.....

[@robertakerman3570]

This lady does a bit more than drum. But We won't hold that against Her. Oh yeah, You hit the nail squarely. She could change Her name to "Talent", but then there's that humility thing. Rock-On Bruh.

[@TheJenniferLJones]

This, Fall Out, and So Lonely are my favorite Police songs. Good job

[@tremayne3]

Good taste !!

[@grandpanonymousnonymous5834]

So Lonely. Stewart Copeland at his most delicious!

[@albertogiuffrida2864]

One of my favourite songs .... Good interpretation!!!

[@marcvanvliet9386]

steward copeland is my favorite drummer because when you good listen to his drums he has very dry and tight clean hits i love that and you sina doing a good job to cover this great drummer of the police you come close to his style i enjoy it very well 👍👍,,,mark

[@MrFeuerFux]

Steward Copeland is one of my favorite drummers because his technique is absolut unique and progressive. So in my eyes it's really difficult to do a drum cover like this that satisfies the claim. But as always you nailed it, Sina. My highest respect for this! 🥁👍

[@sinomais754]

Your devoted Fan is enthusiastic for your original STYLE in perfomances. Hello from MILANO city,,,SINO

[@BrotherExperimentus]

The Police are one of my favourite bands and Stewart Copeland is without doubt one of the most brilliant drummers in modern music. It was almost impossible to notice any difference from the original. You are without a doubt one of the most brilliant drummers of the current era that I have had the repeated pleasure to listen to. Thank-you for this homage to The Police.

[@ryanpekarchuk4078]

People who thumbs down this video are just jealous of the talent on display here! Way to go keep it up you rock Sina! More police!

[@SignOfCross]

You’re 10 years younger than me, and still you show me many awesome songs I didn’t knew 😄 Love your job, you’re my favourite female drummer!

[@TonyP-ek9jg]

omg i jus realised i bought this in 78 on blue vinyl on 7 inch man to get stewarts complex rhythms amazing drummin jus watched her doin burn haha what talent ..incredible

[@user-fl8kf1pm2h]

I don't have a musical ear, but when I see a drum or a cymbal that produces a particular note for me, this song, listened to many times before, now sounded in a new way with a richer sound palette of percussion instruments. Thank you for the new sensations

[@galogarzonbenavides1021]

Ye' old perv 😏

[@matts9]

Quintessential Police playing superbly!

[@thecorbies]

Hi Sina. Stewart Copeland was/is one of the great technical drummers of the 70's and 80's. His timing and precision is hard to copy, but I have to say, you absolutely nailed this tune. I've been playing drums since I was about 11yrs old, and let's just say that I don't need to work anymore, but there's no way that I would like to take this track on. Really, REALLY well done. Regards Mark in the UK

[@alton936]

I'm with you...A very fine job indeed !...But, something was lacking - a crispness, some energy - Because Copeland surely does get a workout. Actually, I was hoping that Sina WOULD attempt a Police tune - And, i got my wish. something different perhaps, the equipment, possibly ?? I listened carefully to the cymbal work - The high hat did not sound quite the same, nor did the other cymbals for that matter. Whether he used them on this song - I can't discern - But, he does use a set of smaller drums up top.

[@thecorbies]

Apparently SC used to tune/tighten his drum heads/skins to within an inch of their lives. As far as I can see that only raises the pitch, but Sina's seemed fine to me. A fair amount of variation within a manufacturer as well as a given manufacturer's range.

[@oparockt8885]

Ich schaue mir ja jede Menge Drum-Videos an. Warum bin ich letztlich immer wieder bei Sina lande? Es passt hier einfach alles, Technik, Musikalität, Einfühlungsvermögen in das Stück/den Drummer. Na ja, und das spontane Gefühl - jepp das ist's, so genau würde ich auch gerne spielen mögen.

[@kennyl9419]

You drum with such intensity, yet it seems effortless.

[@jercruse]

Wow, watching and sounding like stewart, love the hand on the drumstick on the drum, nice to see raw talent

[@ernstgeernaert1749]

Sina at work! A dynamic cover and great to see the work that has to be done by the drummer. Normaly the focus is on the singer/giutar work. It is always good to see Sina showing us the hard work. I ❤ it!

[@audtom52]

Hands down...The best cover of Stewart Copeland Ive ever heard, If anyone can steer me to a better one Id love to hear it. Awesome job!

[@bowiev2schneider58]

👍 apparemment personne 😂

[@gamzeugur5355]

Such a talented drummer!!! Danke schön Sina!!!🙏👏👏👏👏👏

[@ImpartiallySpeaking]

2020. A new world, a new generation but the legacy of the police goes on!

[@Rivan98]

The police is one of my favorite bands

[@phi2771]

Stewart Copeland is my all time favorite drummer. Great job!

[@williamslater8741]

That was awesome. I forgot about that song it’s been so long. Best drummer in the world in my opinion is the professor.

[@infometria]

Spirit of the radio rush , can give us this pleasure of remembering

[@davebeck8973]

Sina You are a masterful artist in drumming, That was great !

[@davebeck8973]

josh grant You got that right, nor can my eyes keep up! Some times she looks like she has four arms.

[@joetownsend343]

Well, you can always slow it down. I've had to do that many times in order to see those quick moves.

[@davebeck8973]

Joe Townsend That would be nice Joe, my phone does not have that capability. I still love it all.

[@joetownsend343]

Could you dl it to your computer then, Dave? Then you could play it back in VLC or something like that, and adjust anything, including playback speed. I'm not sure what players you have on your phone, but there should be something.

[@GreenManelishi]

The best Police song of all time.

[@johnleonard3806]

Haven't watched a Sina cover in a while. Excellent as ever.

[@johncoe6304]

Love her playing, love her attitude. Shes so cool. Wow

[@Olvenskol]

Had a chance to see Copeland during the Police reunion tour. His solo was amazing! You did an excellent job capturing the sound Sina.

[@BRUTUSPLAC]

August 1983 Hartford Civic Center with REM opening for them, and the REunion Tour 20007 ? Hartford CT. OUTDoors at uconn GREAT JOB MISS !!!

[@tkeplinger7504]

Sina does a great job on all her covers but, I think this is top notch!

[@pauldunlea6745]

Haven't seen this one before Sina. Great to see a young girl playing along to REAL Music.

[@jimmycarvajal6732]

In fact, I love Police' s music

[@dr.a006]

I got me the Police drum music book and this is what I’m starting with 😅 Love the rhythm.

[@archbirch7977]

Yes Sina... You definitely did it justice...... You are so good at every cover you undertake. Your father did super with video and mixing...... He added a portion where there are three different shots.. foot pedals, and two different angles of you drumming......very nice ...as well as the shot that got from normal view to close up. The seventies were definitely a fantastic era for music...... USA was still entangled in the Viet Nam conflict, Presudent Niixon forced to resign after the Watergate hotel breakin and cover up..... the decade was pretty much dominated by the disco scene and all the periphery it involved.... bell bottom pants,.men dressing in disco clothes, Studio 54 in new York city, changing morals, and then great rock and roll .............if you grew up in the 1970s..you would have been one of the great drummers with who knows which famous band....but definitely one of them. Did you ever consider letting the camera run for maybe a minute after song ends ..so that your minions could see how you wind down after a boffo performance.... maybe you talk to your Dad or just sit at your drums and meditate or get up and stretch or whatever....we would love to view it. Bye

[@sina-drums]

Oh, after my recordings I usually just disappear. So all there's left to see would be an empty basement :) As for the 70s, there was the Disco stuff towards the end of the decade as far as I can tell, but literally all great Rock Bands were there too. Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Queen...

[@archbirch7977]

Sina...can understand that when you done with a performance ..you just disappear. When you finish and carefully put down drumsticks and silence cymbal, you look completely "spent"... both physically and mentally. Maybe you go to garden with Jessy or go sit on the bench where you. Dad., and Milena were sitting? Just watched you doing the Police again.....you seem to do it so effortlessly and that every drumbeat you make is second nature..... quite astounding to watch !!!!!!!!bye for now

[@barswild]

sina-drums This is the answer of true musician!

[@KnEpH131]

Playing like Stewart gave her a little workout. God Job Girl!

[@FANDEFIRULAIS]

*I'm a Police fan...that's why I say¡your best performance!* 😌🔝🥇🧞‍♀️👌🏼👏🏼💪🏼🥳

[@davefrommaine9822]

I always loved this song! Great job sina!

[@thomasleja3435]

New Wave for a change - nice! I have this album on vinyl for 40 years and have heard it many times, but it's always exciting to see and hear you playing a classic rock song. Stewart Copeland is a great drummer for sure, but so are you!

[@docteurslump5517]

Thank you so much for making me remember having so much fun everytime I play police songs on drums. You're very talented and you definitely got so close to Steward Copeland's spirit. White Reggae rules ! 💙

[@michaelkulshammer1417]

das ist sehr gut gelungen, immerhin ist Stewart Copeland einer der besten und vielleicht am wenigsten bekannte Schlagzeuger der Welt, gerade durch diesen Song bekannt geworden. Vernünftige Schuhe 👍, ich werde nicht abgelenkt 😇

[@gerardomoran3027]

my first police cassette 1998 I create one of the songs that I like the most and songs of the scorpions thank you

[@colbythornton5152]

Another Police song, awesome job. Copeland is not a easy person to replicate. You Miss Sina, do it with what looks like it's nothing to you. Once again I am amazed at your unbelievable talent.

[@davidfine7066]

Meine Herz für dich Sina'... ❤ Die 🎶 Musik ist Wundervoll !

[@user-nk5jb8dj1s]

La façon de jouer et de tenir le rythme complexe est extraordinaire. BRAVO ! Vous êtes une très grande musicienne.

[@keithacalu]

OutStanding. Great song and beautiful cover. I'm with Ray Haynes. So thankful for what you do and the many great folks you have brought on your journey. The song choices are dang perfect. I've been listening to Your SongBook II and what fun to re-visit these gems again. You and your basement clan are amazing. Have a blessed weekend.

[@mikebarnes50]

This song never sounded better thanks to your drum work :-)

[@lumpyfishgravy]

Good choice from possibly the best Police album.

[@torahislife]

Sina you are great. Thanks for doing the Police!

[@fredaldridge1282]

Sina, What a brilliant cover . This song is from a very early album but I really like it .i think every body has a copy of Synchronicity. Three amazing songs off of that album. This song is an unusual mix of reggae and pop and it works so well. Your on top of this cover like you always are just fantastic as always

[@bellerophonmusic2139]

Lots of dynamics in the playing, excellent !

[@dwaynewladyka577]

You did a spot on job with this cover. So awesome. Cheers!

[@spearhead787]

I was lucky enough to witness stewart copeland play live in 2008 on the police final tour. He has a unique sound. I love what you've done here sina. it's so special.!!

[@jonnyroxx7172]

Sina, I just watched a few of your drums covers for the first time. You've got great feel, timing & tone. One thing that impresses me most about your covers (other than they're all very difficult to play) Is that I can see you physically morph into these drummer's styles of playing - Especially with "We won't get fooled again". If I blur my eyes, I SEE Keith Moon behind the kit. You just got a new fan, Young Lady. Peace. JR

[@rickknutson6540]

When you go on vacation I have to look for videos I might not have seen I don't know how I missed this one Stewart Copeland one of my favorite drummers and you play him to a T thank you miss you and as always cheers

[@HaraldPlontkeMusic]

Unglaublich. Es ist, als ob du den Geist der Vorlage einatmest. Ich habe mir das Video gar nicht angesehen sondern die Augen geschlossen. Ich höre da wirklich Can't stand losing you von Police!

[@philorwick4378]

I’m out of superlatives! You’re just nailing it every time! I also see we’re getting close to half a million subscribers....OK folks it’s time to tell your friends neighbors and anyone else you know about this generational drummer. Not 19 not female just the best damn drummer I’ve heard and seen in a long long time ( and I’ve been listening to rock since the 60s). Let’s get her to 500k by Christmas!

[@joetownsend343]

Right on Phil. Everybody has friends that would enjoy Sina as much as we do. That's the key- "Tell a friend". If you do, a lot of them will end up subbing to her. In the effort to see if we could get Sina to 250k, many kept saying that in their comments, and it worked! :)

[@tonyeckman4822]

You always have the best selections. Bravo.

[@goldhillproductions]

Amazing song choice and so well performed, as always...

[@pauliect4476]

Made me smile. Sina your taste in music is amazing.

[@lonnierichter6962]

you did a great job on this, you always do great, on all styles of rock and music.

[@normanroth9072]

Sina, Copeland just seems to suite you perfectly..... He was one of the best, so makes sense

[@3dPrintCreator]

You played it very good Sina, my compliments. I am missing a little syncopated riff on the hi-hats sometimes but other than that, you nailed it. Great work.

[@MrGreggallman]

Truly inspirational to watch a uniquely talented young woman hone her craft and become so incredibly talented. Sina, your future is looking very bright! May all the stars align for you and deliver your hopes and dreams!

[@hugolepy7091]

Another great cover Sina ! I wish I've learned an instrument to enjoy all the complexity of your songs!

[@larryguy7160]

I am so missing the police in my life (musical group lol)…Thanks Sina for bringing back the '80's again, with your wonderful cover...

[@jcampos3608]

Very good, Very good. Brazil

[@ericsulli4177]

Bravo Sina, je ne me lasse pas de vous voir jouer.

[@TheWhoo2000]

I love those new drums Sina! They sound even better than they look! While I really liked the jazz video you did, I have to say that I love to watch a video that keeps you busy on the drums. The side-screen that shows your footwork is amazing! Not being a drummer I cannot imagine how you can do so many different things with your feet at one time. I think that it shows the talent you were born with. Use it well and use it often. Thank you again for your videos !! (The Whoo)

[@davidjenson1570]

Great cover! I used to listen to these guys a lot. One of their great songs. :)

[@cozccs]

For some reason Sina looks more famous and cute in this preferred section than in regular post. So happy I can help her.

[@joetownsend343]

That's a great name for a HVAC company! Says it all in three words. Bravo.

[@khairilanuarothman3869]

When Sina does a cover of a song one is compellingly drawn to details previously appreciated but consigned to a supporting role because the song as a whole was all that mattered (1976 I believe it was when I first heard this; A-Levels coming up and all!). That's why I love this young lady.

[@aussie_al]

Absolute bewdy again. After some of the hard rock you've been putting out lately this one seems a little tame but it is still perfection. Love it when your covers are by yourself instead of collaborations but still all fantastic. So glad to be a subscriber. For those about to rock we salute YOU. Luv ya babe.... Alan from down under

[@flaviofrancojr6635]

One of my "best five" songs ever. Thanks Sina!

[@diegomolina8305]

you did it very well! good job! A hug from El Salvador

[@52morse]

Well young lady, I do believe if Mr. Copeland saw this he’d flip. Copeland always had the signature style but utilized amazing technique of which you seem to emulate effortlessly. As there are many “robots” out there that could play this song note for note, you obviously were in touch with the deeper vibe. Some of those fills are sharp enough to cut concrete. The relentless atomic kick/rim that rattled many a young skull. This song dates me. Yes, probably older than your dad. At that age I was crawling out of a punk induced feedback hangover. Don’t get me wrong, great times. This song brought an energy that was badly needed. An order to a chaotic mess of politically charged fast, good but sloppy noise. My point? You captured it. Maybe without knowing it. You are amazingly talented. Concentrate, stay focused and set goals. Chops like that? It’s your oyster. Peace

[@joetownsend343]

Aqua- ++

[@matteoriva6925]

The Police😍

[@jyrivirtanen4126]

Sina is master at work here. I see and hear that Sina does the best job you can ask for this piece, technically as well as emotionally. And that’s not a little.Very immersive, immaculate and respectable cover. It’s not easy to realize how hard challenges she beat even as a teenager. To get it just right💯

[@IbbyP]

Hi ya. Another great drum cover. You pick some great tunes ya know. Love it.

[@renzootommydrummerminazzi7600]

Brava.. Sina..stile di Copeland..reggae roll..e molto bello..beautifool..wery well..music!! Yesss.

[@hudsonsantos9968]

Como sempre,perfeita.💐💐👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@aggressivehorsepower1918]

I accidentally came across one of your vids tonight and have been watching them for about an hour or so, you remind me of my older brother that has that same talent (Drums), but he never moved on it.He could duplicate Rush, Police, Metallica, Styx, Iron Maiden... You as well are f...ing amazing and I think you found your day job / calling, GO GIRL!!!I really can't figure out how you have any dislikes, must be people that can't appreciate an awesome Female Drummer. You Rock

[@laykehicks8413]

This damn album I can listen to front to back over and over, I got sick of it LOL! Great drumming, extreme accuracy. Pleaeeease do a cover of their other song wrapped around your finger :-D

[@limitedignition]

Yeah, I would love to see that, too. One of my favorite police song and a killer on drums...

[@incub8]

Spot on! Stewart Copeland would be happy!

[@norbertomiller7511]

SINA INCREDIBLE SINA!!!!!!!!POWERS RIMINTHIME!!

[@DirkGrosemans]

Stewart Copeland should be very proud when he sees you playing drums.

[@magnuspahlsson3531]

I love the sound from your "new" drums! They are better then those orange one you had before. (But the orange one looked better!) Milena We need more cowbells! :-P

[@delonalamon2039]

We,your fans cannot stand losing you.nice taste of music to cover.

[@carlosdias9745]

Parabéns, sensacional 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@garethleitner9547]

The sky's the limit for this gal.

[@Podemosllegarasuscriptor-vr8gr]

Sina Drums forever love

[@marchaller548]

c'est toujours un délice de te voir battre ces morceaux qui font partie de notre vie.... merci

[@phillee2814]

Another excellent cover of what I've only really learned to appreciate very recently. Sina, thank you for helping hugely in that rediscovery of the music I'd almost forgotten, not being a huge fan at the time. The Police are far from the only example of this, which makes me very confused when videos get blocked - don't the labels and artists WANT the additional royalties? Are the artists even aware that they are being deprived of income by that kind of blocking?

[@sina-drums]

Thanks Phil, I think it's not the artists' decision, it's decided by the record and publishing companies...

[@phillee2814]

@@sina-drums If the artists own the copyright, they can insist on the final word - but only if they know it's going on. And labels do their best to stop them finding out (in the guise of "protecting them from harassment". That is why so much of what we hear on the radio thsse days, from the big "music" publishers, are commissioned works by employed composers and lyricists (meaning the copyright is owned by the label), performed by created "stars" (this week) who have little say in what they do - and no means of building any catalogue of works which they own the copyright on, and which will continue to provide for them in retirement. That is why so many are deliberately avoiding the trap of being signed now. Some are young artists like yourself, with good advisors like Mike, some have learned it from the inside, like Nita Strauss, who used Kickstarter to fund her original debut album (just like Motion Device). The record companies don't like anyone else having a slice of the pie though, and use their financial muscle to set the agenda. And they are prepared to pay liberally for control of music outlets like radio stations, channels like KZbin, and even governments (see the way licensing fees in the US changed recently to favour the huge corporations). If you want to see what has changed on KZbin over the last couple of years, follow the money trail.

[@sina-drums]

That's all very true, since about 2 decades the music industry is doing a good job killing the music and killing itself. However, the artists and composers - especially in the old days - never owned the copyright (the publishing right) of their own recordings, unless they were independent. The copyright of all those iconic recordings I like to cover was always owned by the record labels/publishers. The copyright must not be confused with the writers' royalties. Royalties are not connected to the copyright.

[@joetownsend343]

The labels that do this have their heads up their asses, that's why. That's why they got killed in the internet era, and why they're going to get killed again in the blockchain era. The artists will win in the end (finally). Time to hand it over, suckers!

[@joetownsend343]

Sina- >"The copyright of all those iconic recordings I like to cover was always owned by the record labels/publishers. The copyright must not be confused with the writers' royalties."< Can we all just get real for a minute, please. Blocking a cover, in any way, is disgusting to me. It's like blocking free speech. It's a simple money grab, at the expense of the original artists and the covering artists. You know that's what it is, when sometimes it's ok with them, and sometimes it ain't. It has to be the same for everybody. It is also self-defeating. For what Sina and the other YourSoundTube artists do for ANY song they cover, the RHs and Pubs and original writers ought to get down on their knees and kiss her Convers. The idea is to keep the song in the culture, without trying to grab the share of the cover artists that are doing that work for them. Not smart.

[@sydhamelin1265]

New drummers, watch the way she doesn't rest a beat coming from the floor tom to the hi-hat on the second verse. That's very good form and is not done but a surprising number of drummers. So, if you want to sound good, make sure you don't skip a beat. Excellent technique here.

[@ryanroose6124]

Syd Hamelin How does he get to the ride bell and back to the high hat on message in a bottle. I’ve never been able to play that.

[@sydhamelin1265]

@@ryanroose6124 One of the best drumming questions ever. The ride was overdubbed in the recording. You can actually hear the hi-hat, ride and snare all hit at the same time. He was asked about how it was played in the studio and he said the ride cymbal on the verse and some toms were recorded separately.

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@@ryanroose6124 So, what he's playing is technically impossible (unless you have two sticks in one hand). BUT, you can fake it pretty convincingly. The first thing is to make sure your hi-hate and ride are both in a comfortable arc, so you're not stretching to reach either, cause it is a fast transition. So, the last verse, he's doing 16th notes on the hi-hat, with the ride and snare hitting on 2 and 4. I stick RLRL, but on the 2 and 4, I carry my left hand over to the snare, and my right hand over to the ride. So it looks like 1-R E-rest &-R A-L 2-Right on Ride, Left on Hi-hat E-rest &-R A-L On the recording, he rests the hi-hat after the snare hit, so it lines up closely.

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Syd Hamelin Thanks for that info man. Think I might just buy a bell and put it right next to my snare and hi hat.

[@sydhamelin1265]

@@ryanroose6124 Yeah, I can see that having a lot of good use as well. I did a little digging and found this cover of Message in a Bottle, it's a very, very close representation. Enjoy! kzbin.info/www/bejne/goPWiWmZgNFrrcU