Can Taiwan's Economy Survive Without China?

Taiwan is heavily reliant on China in terms of trade and investments. As tensions rise, will these hurt Taiwan?
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[@BehindAsia]

Do you think Taiwan is still heavily reliant on China?

[@misterbig9025]

Taiwanese university graduates seek jobs in Chyna!

[@allacerz2289]

No longer anymore!

[@ric6074]

Yes indeed, many people don't know.😂

[@SalesManual]

@@ric6074 No.....

[@changpohao]

No

[@ej054jo3]

"It was announced on May 18, 2024 that the total foreign trade between Taiwan and mainland China (including Hong Kong) dropped from 42% to 28.57% last year." Taiwan is working hard to decouple from China!

[@lijenhsin421]

The problem is also: can China suvive without Taiwan...

[@OFFENDYOU365]

Yes they can

[@arrowghost]

Taiwan need to really prepare itself and diversify consider China still threatens them and the possibility of an instant decoupling once invasion starts. Better be ready and safe, than be sorry and waiting around hoping the invasion does not come. It's only a matter of when, not if.

[@user-dhdwjzm]

Taiwan don’t need China，but China need Taiwan. China's exports mainly come from Taiwanese manufacturers.

[@ric6074]

1.4b vs 24mil market? Who needs who? Commonsense 😂

[@yin1702]

You are correct but Chinese people don’t like this comment.

[@cdya3695]

​@ric6074 , Taiwan companies in China just used China's low labor cost only, because Taiwan companies in China produced high technology products like iPhone, and customer is Apple, And American big customer Cisco ...and so on. and these worldwide big high tech companies used TSMC chips only...😂 So, Taiwan companies in China are not due to china's markets.🤣

[@augustadwamena1193]

@@cdya3695 the founder of Huawei is not Taiwanese is he???

[@augustadwamena1193]

@user-dhdwjzm -Huawei exports all over the w6,yet it's founder is Chinese and was in the chinese army not taiwan.BYD sells many ev cars around the world,it's founder is Chinese and not taiwanese......so stop lying by claiming everything made in china and exported globally is taiwanese.even Chiang kaishek came from china.when japan invaded china,instead of fighting the invaders he fought the communists,he was a traitor to the chinese people and a betrayer and that is why in the end he lost china and fled to Taiwan. The Taiwanese should stop acting as though they are of white Europeans stock......they are not......if the taiwanese hate china so much, why don't they leave Taiwan and migrate to the United States and europe.

[@mikslids7083]

Taiwan's Industrial and Overall Economic Strength. Many people are unaware of the industrial and overall economic strength of Taiwan today. Taiwan has a well-developed technology and manufacturing sector. It is ranked first in the world in semiconductor chip manufacturing, first in the world in ICT equipment manufacturing, third in the world in machinery and components manufacturing, third in the world in biotechnology companies, fourth in the world in machine tools, sixth in the world in chemical plants, and fifth in the world in shipbuilding tonnage. Taiwan's aerospace industry is also ranked sixth in the world in terms of output. Taiwan is also the world's largest and most technologically advanced carbon fiber composite material OEM, with applications ranging from tennis rackets and bicycles to aircraft components. Taiwan has many companies that are hidden champions in the global manufacturing sector. These companies are at the top of their respective industries, but they are not well-known to the general public. Taiwan has developed its own supercomputers, AI computers, quantum chips, satellites, and has successfully test-fired military space rockets on multiple occasions. In terms of overall technology and manufacturing strength, Taiwan is on par with the United States, Japan, and the EU industrial countries. Taiwan is currently the 20th largest economy in the world, with total foreign investment assets of over $2 trillion. It is the fifth largest foreign investor in the world and the fifth largest net creditor nation. Manufacturing accounts for over 36% of Taiwan's GDP and contributes over 50% to economic growth, the highest in Asia. Taiwan's listed companies invest and set up factories overseas, and their overseas offshore processing and manufacturing import and export trade exceeds $1 trillion each year (most of which is included in Hong Kong's import and export trade figures). The import and export trade of these Taiwanese companies is not included in Taiwan's import and export trade figures. If the import and export trade of Taiwanese companies' overseas factories is included in Taiwan's own import and export trade figures, the total global trade volume of Taiwanese companies will reach $1.9 trillion, surpassing Japan and the Netherlands to become the fourth largest trading power in the world after the United States, China, and Germany. Taiwanese companies' overseas factories have supported the families of hundreds of millions of employees in China, Vietnam, and Southeast Asia. It is estimated that Taiwan will enter the top 20 economies in the world in 2023 based on its own domestic production and manufacturing import and export trade, becoming a member of the G20. Among the G20 countries, Taiwan is the only one with no natural resources, relying solely on manufacturing, and with a population of 23.5 million and the smallest land area.

[@twomix1822]

This is why Taiwan needs to massively diversify it's manufacturing and markets to the rest of the world.

[@carloschu7127]

Taiwan's exports to CHN decreased from 45% to 31%, while exports to US has increase to 22%. Still working on diversifying.

[@SalesManual]

@@carloschu7127 "2024年5月18日 - 台灣去年對中國（含香港）貿易總額占對外貿易總額28.57%"

[@carloschu7127]

@@SalesManual 我沒有即時看 經濟部的資料。 我只是看謝金河社長的報導。 不過 中國這樣搞，連臺灣的藍白皮紅骨在中國投資的人 一定拋棄不動產 直奔東南亞。

[@zaizai-lp8jj]

Do you know that when Taiwan is distant from China, Taiwan has enjoyed significant economic growth? When Taiwan invested heavily in China, Taiwan suffered tremendously in its economy. Do more homework before talking about this subject!

[@jameschen7661]

Sounds reasonable for people without deep thinking, but china economy is fading and weaker, and becoming insignificant in technology. Most of traditional industries were moved out which creates more problem in employment issues, another big issue is people don’t spend money but keep and save as much as possible, no GDP to be created.

[@cool.politics]

The truth is China also dependents on Taiwan deeply. The KZbinr is pro Chinese communist by advocating their perspectives.

[@pawsworldshorts8258]

Not anymore

[@cherubimcherubim9515]

You can survive without China but don't expect much for country economic growth. China remains Taiwan's top export partner, receiving nearly 40 percent of the island's exported goods.

[@waichui2988]

Of course it can. Without trade with the mainland, you think Taiwan will become poorer than North Korea? The question is: how many percent of the standard of living decline? Even if the standard of living declines 15 percent, they are still better off than most places in the world. But, how willing are they to suffer 15 percent decline?

[@misterbig9025]

Does The Philippine need China?

[@rickyboy6390]

Only to make ties with them

[@azteclegalgroup7604]

No

[@ric6074]

Banana, mangoes, pineapples, coconut, durians etc.

[@onexoxtoo]

Can China survive without US market, tech and investment?

[@daveh5947]

Yes!

[@andia968]

in 1989 .. US and western europe sanctioned China heavily.. GDP dropped but continue to rise in 1991 despite severe sanctions... so yes they can survive.And what techs? China can make everything that US make from needle to space ship to moon

[@misterbig9025]

China needs US consumers and vice versa

[@arrowghost]

They're still trying to be independent, but without FDI and the current economy is on life support, it's not gonna survive well in the long run whether if US market is still on or not (decouple). China will have its own Great Depression as long as communism is alive.

[@wumaobot]

Why not?

[@Dino-pk5hc]

the better question, can China survive the Russian style sanctions IF they start a war ?

[@muhammadjoshua7464]

well.. China is the largest trading partner for over 120 countries... you're basically sanctioning the whole world at that point 😂

[@sychoxxxx]

The whole world will be in chaos if that happens

[@andia968]

1989 ... US and western europe sanctioned China heavily.. GDP dropped but continue to rise in 1991 despite severe sanctions... so yes they can survice.

[@Dino-pk5hc]

@@muhammadjoshua7464 how can they trade if their currency is cut from SWIFT ? (not accepted as payment) ....

[@muhammadjoshua7464]

@@Dino-pk5hc exactly, those 120 countries would not be able to trade with China, prices will rise, businesses going bankrupt, and people going crazy.. Unless if they use brics payment system of course.

[@donaldlee8249]

China is Taiwan’s biggest source of trade surplus, actually over 40%.

[@carloschu7127]

Nope. Exports to CHN decrease to 31% and will still decrease.

[@aniketk8689]

25-30%才是合理的範圍，一方面可以以此讓共產政權忌憚動武，一方面可以潛移默化輸出民主自由的觀念改造中國人。

[@SalesManual]

no "2024年5月18日 - 台灣去年對中國（含香港）貿易總額占對外貿易總額28.57%"

[@donaldlee8249]

@@SalesManual I’m talking trade surplus, not trade amount. Read better. Taiwan actually runs a trade deficit excluding China and hk.

[@vengeancerecovery5535]

For most of "US" in Asia Major, Asia Minor, EurAsia (Slavic part not whoite part) ASEAN & GlobalSouth didn't even considered toiwan (including iapan, s.kotea & philipones) are part of us anymore.....(THEY ARE ISLAND CHAIN continental seabed) but for the whoite peoples economy & leisure (adult area) then if u all whoite peoples want them.....u can take them or "protect" them....😊....p/s : n.korea & s.kotea are different race, religion, "CULTURE" & peoples now.....😊.....only NIHAO PRIVIET maybe Salam from ASEAN 🤘

[@Joan-h9m]

Lots Taiwanese Industries are transferring from China to Bangkok .

[@vincentleo6812]

There is no Taiwan without China and that a fact everyone knows😊😊😊😊

[@stephentsai8560]

Well, think about it. Taiwan had no whatsoever trade with China or reliant on Chinese labors before 1980, it still strived economically. The question is when the world goes back to the Cold War when the supply chains were divided by freedom world and iron curtain. If Cold War II starts, the labor needs can be satisfied by SEA, India and Mexico and Eastern Europe which Taiwan businesses are relocating their manufacturing capabilities to due to the increasing political and economical risks in China.

[@perfume3187]

🤮

[@hurrikkkanes2533]

fun fact: there’s a huge TSMC fab in Mainland China 😂

[@SalesManual]

It's small one, only 28nm.

[@oceanbreeze89]

On the other hand, when Australia didn’t trade with PRC, Japan was their biggest trading partner. Australia was doing perfectly fine!

[@liebfraumilch3518]

Can China's economy survive without Taiwan, Japan and Korea? Taiwan, Japan and Korea were the same country.

[@sychoxxxx]

@@liebfraumilch3518 vice versa

[@eduardarnold5404]

They were never the same country. Taiwan and Korea were occupied by the Japanese fascists who were allied to the German Nazis.

[@donaldlee8249]

Short answer no.

[@gilberttello08]

✋✋ Philippines

[@PravdaSeed]

Taiwan without China !🇨🇳! , Is Like a : "50" without "5". 🌻🐉🇨🇳🐉🌻 Magnificent 100% Chinese.

[@harrisng3041]

⁉️⁉️Taiwan will do well not to isolate itself from China.. ⁉️❓Taiwan would prosper and progress in and within a China hinterland ⁉️‼️Taiwan must distance itself from the USA and fall not into the American Traps and promises of CONTAINING CHINA. ..... HARRIS'' NG YM 😄☕🌹🍰🍜

[@MuhammadAhmad-db6sf]

yes Probably Taiwan need China For Big Market and Increase there exports or companies revenue so thats why taiwan need it and on other side usa in trouble because china and taiwan come closer... 😂😂 🇨🇳👹

[@critique7767]

you can dream is free. Now TSmC in arizona USA INtel in OHIO. netherlands dont even talk to china on its machine ASML. poor china only chip u can make is for toys lol..Now USA have "chip and science act" banning china because of national security threat 🤣

[@TWMan001]

I almost need to shop on Taobao every week for various items because they are good quality and reasonably priced. The shipping cost from mainland China to Taiwan is even cheaper than domestic shipping within Taiwan.

[@aniketk8689]

Good quality??????????????😅

[@SalesManual]

suck quality....😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@byz7968]

Good quality？🤣

[@BeigeBrownClip-jd2pv]

What stupid title is this ?

[@raphaelromeo1223]

FIRST

[@enghoeban7027]

40% of Taiwan total export go to China

[@SalesManual]

"2024年5月18日 - 台灣去年對中國（含香港）貿易總額占對外貿易總額28.57%"

[@enghoeban7027]

@@SalesManual 忘了说，2023顺差是810亿美元！

[@LongLIN-ol6es]

@@enghoeban7027 台灣對中港貿易中，極大部分是由在中國的台商和外商，從台灣進口關鍵零組件，再送到中國加工成成品的，這從中國十大創匯廠商中，台灣廠商就佔了六家即可看出。隨著台外商不斷移出中國，台灣和中國的貿易量肯定愈來愈縮減，何況一般中國人應該也愈來愈買不起台灣產品了

[@yuanliu-i5i]

中国以前很希望通过对台湾让利来拉近两岸关系，但事实证明对台额外的优惠政策只会增强台湾的分离倾向，现在政府很希望台积电搬去美国和日本，这样就可以平衡中美贸易逆差，也可以降低未来统一战争遭受外部干涉的风险。如果因特尔开放对中国的代工，中国一定是美国制造的坚定支持者，平衡贸易，也避免台湾一家独大。

[@自由的生活]

如果美國有這種思微才是大問題。台灣壯大不會威脅美國 反而是讓美國更強大。看看AI巨頭多來自台灣裔美國人。而且發展過程也是台積電等在支援。 反而一個政治威權大於經濟與人民的中國。一旦強大就開始想著如何改變世界秩序。 我想美國不希望被共產制度淹沒。 自由和平從來都不是中共的目的。

[@yuanliu-i5i]

@@自由的生活 哈哈，人家就喊个口号，你这还当宗教经典了。你猜为啥美国要台积电把先进制程都搬去美国日本?政府只会为国家利益服务，马上特朗普就上来了，到时候台积电外迁的节奏会更快。

[@la5774]

Intel不可能被中共收購或入股 再醜的兒子都是自己的兒子

[@kglin8276]

Of course those Taiwanese can survive without China but not in Taiwan island which is part of China.

[@viewflyhsu6776]

你的話等同於法西斯納粹

[@viewflyhsu6776]

你的話等同於法西斯納粹

[@viewflyhsu6776]

我會讓你付出代價

[@hansjam8364]

台灣有什麼發展潛力？可使用面積不到1萬平方公里，勞動力數百萬，除了台積電996的苦逼勞動力，沒有其他任何優勢產業，人口和資源缺乏只能靠外銷，沒有製成品只能生產中間零件谁愿意買你的東西。這個頻道沒有任何根據整體這裡吹逼

[@高朗-g7b]

taiwan should go to Africa , there is still have land for them to buy

[@hansjam8364]

What development potential does Taiwan have? The usable area is less than 10,000 square kilometers, the labor force is several million, and there are no other advantageous industries except for the hard-working labor force working 996 at TSMC. The population and resources are insufficient and can only rely on exports. There are no finished products and only intermediate parts. Who is willing to buy your products? This channel has no basis for bragging here.

[@s0936171553]

你研究不夠深，台灣是離中國越遠，台灣經濟越好，了解嗎？在去做功課吧！