Can the All Blacks rebuild quickly to dominate England? | The Breakdown

[@charlesw852]

It’s genuinely crazy how this isn’t a 3 test series!!

[@LourensBester]

Mills remains the only person on this show who is both smart and humble. The world should be run by people like Mills.

[@nepiahemopo1702]

He's woke. 😂

[@LourensBester]

@@nepiahemopo1702 And he's also right far more often than the other two clowns

[@sonnyblack6121]

Hes a bit of a fence sitter

[@LourensBester]

@@sonnyblack6121 No, he isn't, he just doesn't tell you what you want to hear.

[@camwells9726]

You think beaudy should play 10 ?

[@LetsOGGE]

Both teams are at the start of their 4 year cycle, new coaches and young talent across the park. This test series is going to be massive! There is x factor across the park on both sides. Don’t think I’ve ever been more keen on test series than this one!!

[@mattybhoy6522]

South African here and all i can say is go for it New Zealand. Absolutely throw the bust at these guys. I personally think Razor is the man for the job. I don't think he is liked by the NZ rugby cause he's not some run of the mill ou toppie ( old man ). Hes young, hes charismatic, the guys respect him and for sure fear him. I think New Zealand has not stuck to their guns the past 5 years and it shows. I think he will go for a very strong pack and that's where new New Zealand need work. There needs to be some big changes here. Been riding off the talent of the backs for far too long. I also think Nz rotate their backs way too much. Still have no clue why Beauden was ever shifted around out of fly. It was just done to accommodate others, but seriously if the ABs just built him into some absolute freak of a fly half i don't think many teams would be able to handle that. You look at the most successful past teams in NZ, players were not constantly played out of position, guys were pure experts. Conrad Smith my favourite New Zealander growing up was immense, you dont develop that kind of game iq switching it up every 5 minutes. I don't think people realise the beast that's coming and honestly would be great to just put the northernets back in their cage. Razor deserves a chance and hes taking the risk on selections. Same thing was said about Rassie when he came into the fold. That his selections were bananas but hes proven everyone wrong ( guys still nuts )

[@hennoliebenberg5391]

Couldn't have said it better. 100 % agree

[@samparkes2477]

Absolutely classic Saffa condescension and faux humility 👌

[@jimsquire-chestnuts8381]

@@samparkes2477respect to the ABs and derision for the rest.

[@robvanderkroft6515]

Bang on once razor gets them all to buy in he will be unstoppable. I biggest mistake foster made was not changing the way the abs play

[@DH-sf9xe]

regardless of results,after the final whistle we will shake hands,share a beer, laughs and stories,and us NZers will raise our glasses and salute our most loved traditonal foe...We see you N'kosi

[@michaelhussey440]

Wilson is right to see the England games as a 3 test series , with the ABs having the advantage of playing twice at home but being a new team against the more settled English team. I think England will win that game at Twickenham , just. The All Blacks will win comfortably at Eden Park. The first test at Dunedin is likely to be the real decider of who comes out on top overall. 50/50 game I reckon. Cant wait for it.

[@robertstrachan3482]

I think you might be right

[@joedennehy386]

Well considered comment

[@tomorrow3582]

Nice to see a fair comment that's based on reason not hubris. It's gonna be close. The ABs are more skillful, smarter and faster but England are much improved and if their defence fires they will take the ABs to unfamiliar waters from which they may not be able to row back.

[@pdewaal100]

Gosh I’m surprised by the level of doubt, indecision and uncertainty among this panel.

[@douglasdejager8450]

Sir John Kirwan has come out of hiding after the RWC 😅😂

[@richardlong5751]

Not a single mention of an English player. They could have showed the England team, discussed the key match-ups, England's front row is weak but the back row is strong etc.

[@vuyaniman9440]

Interesting to hear these guys talking about a possibility of losing. How times have changed?

[@mungoblizzard6114]

We being real here lol.. Times have changed and the NH rugby are leading the way - Fozzie + Hansen failed to evolve our game the last decade

[@markhankin467]

Think NZ win 2-0 but scores could be reasonably close. Look out for cunninghan-south in the back row, george martin at lock and manny feyi W on the wing. They might surprise a few people.

[@CocoLico-fh5py]

Don't think that's even in razors vocabulary

[@bucky2355]

It’s all part of the job description

[@rodwellchigome7567]

So true. Even if true, you don't say it loud. But NZ knows now that with world rugby so hotly contested, gone are the days of AB 90% win ratios. The attrition in the modern game won't allow for it, but yeah, still dismayed at the lower mentality on display by pundits and fans alike.

[@contrarian63]

No country in the world has the depth of South Africa. Combine that with our physicality, skills, and the best coaches in the world. I am very excited about what Tony Brown is bringing to the team in addition to what we already have. All I can say is: Good luck to the other sides!

[@fabiov8412]

Nah NZ has more

[@contrarian63]

@@fabiov8412 As of March 2024, South Africa had 804,279 registered rugby union players. New Zealand had 147,434 registered rugby players in the 2023 season. Spot the difference?

[@macemason6119]

@@contrarian63and it’s always been this way as we are a small nation and yet we are the toughest of all to beat. We have the best win ratio and we will keep it.

[@contrarian63]

@@macemason6119 Except in World Cups. I know that really irks the New Zealanders. Great team with a great history but I think SA not being part of Superrugby has hurt NZ. Not to mention Australia not being competitive. The talent in SA is just off the charts.

[@macemason6119]

@@contrarian63 best thing SA did was leave Super Rugby it’s allowed the pacific nations to grow and it wasn’t good for SA and it showed in their results. Nobody expected NZ to make the WC final and under estimated the All Blacks. SA had more respect and hung on … just. We just keep coming , they say we’re done but then here we are again . That’s AB rugby that’s NZ as people we got a tough year this year and you can tell they can’t wait to get into it.

[@darrellbibile3575]

ABs couldn’t capitalize on opportunities. Have a look at the match at the 26:56 min. Dmac only had grubber the ball and Talea had acres of space behind to score. Rush defense creates opportunities and just need the vision to accuracy to execute.

[@kainoizking]

I’d be really happy with 10. The standard of international rugby is so unbelievably good right now amongst tier 1 nations. From the tests that we have this year? The away games we have to play in SA and Ireland? 10 from 14 is a very good year.

[@Mark76556]

I think the all blacks will beat ireland in dublin this year

[@kainoizking]

@@Mark76556 will be a huge game.

[@MrWillt100]

If the England forwards get some domination up front and their backs can utilize the ball in hand than they could beat the All Blacks but if the new All Blacks team gel than watch out. I make a prediction that the All Blacks a team biting at the bit and just wanting to break loose and given space and time they will overwhelm England like hasn't been seen since the days of the Richie Macaw era.

[@M0RR1S10]

Mills is the only one that knows anything about rugby on this panel

[@luckyluke5549]

Kirwin and Wilson are the Good morning Joe and Jake Tapper of rugby.

[@austingtir]

Thats rubbish. Ross Karl of aOtEaRoA rugby pod is the establishment MSM hack who pushed the crusaders rename/rebrand and all sorts of other woke BS. Atleast these two actually played rugby at the highest level and coached.

[@michaelmoynihan9591]

Kiwi s are very silly putting up with these two gospel singers.😂😂😂😂😂

[@austingtir]

@@michaelmoynihan9591 You can talk with that idiot Jim Hamilton you have up in the north saying all sorts of utter bollox.

[@My1notyours0409]

Comparing anybody with Jake Tapper is Ludacris, that man is an absolute disgraceful fool.

[@joedennehy386]

Ten wins out of 14 good for me

[@IverKnackerov]

Some good, mature, considered opinions here. Rugby is as competitive as it’s ever been….Aus and Wales excepted. And that’s good for the game as a whole. A NZ side that doesn’t expect to win, if anything is a more dangerous side. Nothing wrong with respecting the opposition (when it’s deserved)…..

[@robvanderkroft6515]

10 out of 14 would be bloody good. Barrett at 10 Mackenzie should stay coming off the bench thats where he has the most impact. Christie made alot of poor decisions in the black jersey.

[@Canvashed]

Think England can run the ABs close as they get used to new coaches system, but not expecting a series win for England, from what ive seen alot of AB fans not thrilled with selections.

[@mungoblizzard6114]

I like how Felix Jones operates after watching Springboks chasing the sun - He will definitely influence England new way of playing

[@gregwaghorn8496]

Cannot expect the first test, without a warm up game to be a win. After they have played a 6 nations. No excuses, but its not realistic

[@willemsteyn7808]

I think the question to ask is can NZ avoid conceding yellow and red cards?

[@bittersweet340]

The players who have been selected have been warned to tackle low... Red Card's sin bins were an aspect of the game that Razor wanted to stamp out...

[@rabbitss11]

The bookies reckon a 14 point win for the All Blacks, they must know something we don't but I'll take it

[@luatala8008]

Not surprised if ABs win 14/14 but equally won’t be surprised they don’t win again the next World Cup. That’s the pattern , win everything but the cup.

[@MrWillt100]

I seem to have heard this before and then yes I also remember it got thrown back in their faces. The Aussies can attest to this aye Gregan, so don't speak too loudly cause someone might hear?

[@brianmurray6287]

Razzie is building an army not a squad...Ireland are missing hanson JGP and Keenan and have inexperienced half backs....England have some really good new players and are also building a strong squad.

[@ShaheedManie-nd4os]

Rebuilding...ABs need to do it swiftly tough tough season ahead SA hard place to tour etc...also stalwarts gone...need to be brutal from start starting against the poms on sat gonna be interesting with the new generation....

[@MrWillt100]

Do you think we've never been to South Africa before or won a game in South Africa if so you don't know much?

[@Yaackov1]

But u have PICKED 2 broken locks ? Do u think this wise decision ?

[@scottnz411]

rebuild? its not that bad, they were a goal kick missed away from winning the World Cup, and won the rugby championship for the last 4 years,

[@georgelane6350]

Still a rebuild because at least half that squad won't be there for the next world cup. Taylor Retalick Whitlock Cane Smith Mounga Those are big names and were all starters

[@KiwiGraggle]

Umm, yes, but it is going to have to be a grinding series, where our forwards, that I believe are better than England will do the job. This is what has to be done to win, because I do not think running wildly at the English will help NZs cause. Grinding match, where I do genuinely expect the All-Blacks front 5 to dominate over England. That is Englands weakness, as nuts as that sounds, vs what I think Robertson will and has to do, which is use big forward power to basically dominate the smaller and less stronger English forward pack.

[@tomorrow3582]

I don't see an England weakness in the lock department. George Martin is a beast and Itoje is coming back to form. The front row you may be right although we do have some solid players there too, they lack the dynamism of the Kiwis. I really don't think NZ gonna dominate us physically, but we will see. I watched the Super Rugby final and the intensity of defence in nothing like NH rugby, the ABs are going to have their hands full. That said I'm not making England favourites to win both tests, but the first test England have got a real chance to come away with a win.

[@RanginuiRuatita]

those 2wingers tal 2 much my own apinion

[@7884golfguru]

Poms looking dangerous

[@AnalogFilmDiary]

Big pack? Aerial threat? Have these pundits actually seen England play since the World Cup? There’s a very different team and style coming than they expect. Still a tall order and I think England will be happy winning 1 of the 2 games

[@ShaheedManie-nd4os]

Huge disappointment not see hoskins anywhere!!😢

[@shanemorrison9002]

Hey i want 14 and 0, Bakers dozen Im ok with 13 and one draw, Not too greedy but ill accept 12-1-1, Realistically a 11-2-1 Unanimous decision on the Score cards by all 3 judges , leaves us with the Status Quo, The Men in Black deliver the Knockout 77 times to 33 . and that my friends anyone would be proud of!!!

[@lockk132]

One loss each to England,South Africa,France and Ireland,,plus potential for 2 more losses so I think 8/6 or 9/5

[@MegaTkls]

Do the All Blacks have too many coaches? I personally think so.

[@williamcarter3933]

Theres real jeopardy for NZ this season, lose to England in the 1st 2 games and then have to face Argies, Saffas next.....ouch! Then France and Irish later on in the year....could be a Decade defining year for the ABs

[@mungoblizzard6114]

Can’t see us winning

[@williamcarter3933]

@mungoblizzard6114 who's us?

[@mungoblizzard6114]

@@williamcarter3933 depends , who are u ?

[@lockk132]

Yep I agree

[@williamcarter3933]

@@mungoblizzard6114 I'm Welsh....I can't see us winning every week

[@FareedLoyiso]

Springboks

[@booey28]

We're gonna beat the ABs

[@DH-sf9xe]

Everyone knows we attack flat at the line,been that way like forever ever,too predictable Rush defence or outsides up and in squash us up,use some league style plays🤷‍♂️multiple lead runners with main option(dMac or BB)sweeping behind

[@mo-p6x]

Wilson and Kirwin know how not to win games as coaches, plus they supported Foster when he made excuses for his mess and destroying AB's history. The reason Sky employs them, they work cheap.

[@ihaveaidsish]

Well said

[@donovanmostert6692]

I'm a super boyk fan.ABs not boks number 1.even though you guys lost the final.then Ireland.then us.there is a difference between being world champions and the best in the world.cant wait for the internationals to start

[@maverick214]

The days of the New Zealand rugby dominating are over. There simply isn't the depth of player talent like a decade ago, Super rugby is weak and so is provincial rugby.

[@MarmiteTheDog]

Love it! The Kiwis making excuses already! 😂

[@mungoblizzard6114]

Name the top 3 excuses:

[@rodeo4786]

😂😂😂 so funny

[@kainoizking]

England have played 6 tests since the World Cup, ABs have played zero. That’s just a fact, nothing to do with excuses lol

[@mungoblizzard6114]

@@kainoizking There we go number 1, what are the other 2 👀

[@ihaveaidsish]

Excuses? Pal, the Prince Andrew fan club are going to knocked out the Euros and pumped my All Blacks in the same week. Glorious

[@johnlamb3101]

Depends how BAD England is!

[@TevitaFunaki-h2s]

Allblacks will beat england by 6 points at Dunedin

[@krlauf5307]

cant take this goofball seriously with his macro specs

[@greattimeforacoffee]

Why watch it then. Get a hobby

[@shortMario]

The way the couch got this job. The players will be worried about toxic Razor sharp knife stabbing them slowly in the back.. I will be shocked if this is a good season. This guy is poison.

[@mungoblizzard6114]

What you mean? Razor 🪒 earned it

[@MartinFromIowa]

@@mungoblizzard6114 He earned it but the timing/manner of the succession announcement hardly seemed supportive of Foster (who probably earned the poor treatment he ultimately got).

[@shortMario]

@@mungoblizzard6114 Its the way he went about it ,the timing the disrespect the ego. He could have been exactly where he is right now by being clean. The players are not stupid. You will see how it turns out mark my words

[@mungoblizzard6114]

@@shortMario I agree with the timing part. They should’ve waited until the World Cup was over before announcing the hand over 🤦‍♂️ l

[@scottdawson1607]

Your full of shit

[@Robbybabes1988]

I think in pure rugby terms you guys give England too much credit. I believe the covid gap closer has officially lost its momentum after the world cup and the Southern hemisphere teams will set the pace of the game again. A brand new All Black side will have too much for the English, I mean it’s not their first time playing rugby, these guys know their roll on the field and might be a bit rusty for the first 20-40 minutes but once it clicks it will be brutal for the English.

[@starzgarden5553]

You’re living in the past

[@davidwalker2402]

If you lose against England you’re going down fast….

[@JTAIT-b7g]

Ireland lost to England in the 6N, does that mean Ireland are going down fast?

[@Robbybabes1988]

I think in pure rugby terms you guys give England too much credit. I believe the covid gap closer has officially lost its momentum after the world cup and the Southern hemisphere teams will set the pace of the game again. A brand new All Black side will have too much for the English, I mean it’s not their first time playing rugby, these guys know their roll on the field and might be a bit rusty for the first 20-40 minutes but once it clicks it will be brutal for the English.