Can the Meta Quest 3 do Apple Vision Pro AR things?

[@shanecraigtech]

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[@123jayroe]

I love my quest 3. I see the comparison to but 500 vs 3500. Quest 3 does a lot the apple can do at a much better price. Awesome job showing that!

[@sierramist446]

This review is so necessary! I want to see more content like this

[@shanecraigtech]

That's the plan! Gotta financially justify this purchase lol

[@hellovagim]

I think they have a new drive mode allowing the screen to follow you while you move

[@every1critic]

you should give the immersed app a try on your quest 3! The features are almost like the Vison Pro....almost. I compared some of the videos I've seen with the quest 3 and immersed and it is compared very well. As well as you can move windows around and resized them. The only downside (currently) is that you would need to connect to your computer remotely, via usb, or wirelessly.

[@MacTX]

Meta is probably paying close attention to what people are saying about AVP. Probably have a team on it. I would be surprised if they didn't have some AVPs in their labs and going over them (software and hardware) with a fine tooth comb to figure out what they need to do to compete.

[@rtw68]

We picked up one last year and REALLY need to use it more! Great ideas!

[@B-Ware321]

To be able to place screens around just use an app like immersed. Up to 5 screens, that you can place around the room with passthrough.

[@shanecraigtech]

Yeah, immersed seems decent and fluid is also okay if not a little limited

[@B-Ware321]

@scaryifliteral I haven't tried Fluid yet. I mostly use Immersed or the native screens shown in the video.

[@timrod94]

This review was excellent! Also being Inspired by the Vision Pro videos, I revisited the quest. Now, I see it as more than just a media consumption device; there’s potential for other uses as I explore it further.

[@shanecraigtech]

I think a lot of people are going to be feeling this way..

[@timrod94]

@@shanecraigtech I hope that meta does allow for similar content from the Vision Pro to be on their quest as well. I mean it would be definitely great and it would save a lot of money.

[@smartinez281]

@10:43 omg.. I did not even THINK about playing guitar and reading chords that way

[@Matic3d]

Pretty useful, nice job. I’d like to see more actually… there are so many people who don’t realze 90% of what they are seeing the $$$ device do works fine on quest 3 as well. Like all the 2d apps you can use by side-loading apps, how nice movies incl 3d content in the youtube apps is, getting work done in the workrooms office immersed or virtual desktop, sports and events in venues and xstadium and hanging out with a friend in your virtual environment, a horizon meetup or watching movies with family in bigscreen. I also scout out locations for trips ahead of time with woorld, with my family.

[@TheKnutselaar]

The real question is can the vision pro do quest 3 things

[@dan_kitty_vr5107]

the pron industry says nope ;)

[@WolfieNamira]

I play the piano, and its very playable in the quest 3, almost as easy as just playing without a headset. the FOV is slightly less than real vision so i can't see the very high or low end of the keyboard, but its still great that I can just have many pages of sheet music without trying to cramp it on the single music desk!

[@c6jones720]

On app lab/side quest there already is a browser that lets you just spawn new windows and stick them to any surface in passthrough, they would stay in position if you walk around and you can have many more than 3 windows. Im afraid I forgot what it was called.

[@shanecraigtech]

Ooh, I'll look into that..

[@c6jones720]

It was the Oasis browser: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaiVo2eArplkq9E I used to have it on quest 2. Thinking about it something like that might actually be the future of VR productivity in general. You could place windows of whatever wherever you liked in the real world. Taking it one step further, some windows could could be 3d objects that you could pick up and use using webXR and other technologies. @@shanecraigtech

[@shanecraigtech]

Thanks. I checked out the Oasis Browser and found that the Reality Browser was a a bit better for me.

[@samramirez940]

What are the differences from quest 2 and quest 3

[@ALionlikeMane]

I wonder how well your LEGO test have been in the actual KZbin app (in panel mode obvs)

[@shanecraigtech]

Pretty similar

[@ryanmcvay1745]

I was curious if you had any of the balance issues that most people encounter when wearing a VR/AR headset for an extended period of time. Any comment on that? I also find it a bit humorous to see people and even companies bragging about how the headsets can be used in factories and such. Yet the manufacturing warnings tell you "Do not use in areas where you need to be aware of your surroundings."

[@shanecraigtech]

No balance issues, per se. My biggest issue is just motion sickness. Any experience where my in-game avatar is moving while I am stationary in real life is a no-go.

[@benjiebarker]

big screen is what vision pro lacks...i love watching other peoples 3d movies in a cinema, outdoor campfire, or drive in theater

[@Joesbeasty]

So do you think you'll keep your Quest 3 this time or are you returning it?

[@shanecraigtech]

Probably, but I'm not 100%

[@0heck]

Your hand tracking seems to be better then mine. My hands seem to lag behind a bit. Did i miss a setting to improve that?

[@shanecraigtech]

I didn't change any settings, lighting makes a big difference though.

[@MGTEKNS]

I’ll be honest trying to do things with pass through is hit or miss for me. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong but sometimes it’s perfect and sometimes it’s horrible and it’s nothing about the lighting.

[@shanecraigtech]

Are you referring to pass through it or are you meaning hand tracking?

[@MGTEKNS]

Hand controls are great as long as there’s some amount of light. I’m referring to the quality of the video pass though and being able to do things like read your phone or just seeing things in general. Sometimes it’s super clear and sharp and other time I get this weird wobbly mess.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

so u don't have a better strap for the q3?

[@shanecraigtech]

Waiting for a delivery

[@dan_kitty_vr5107]

great vid..the quest is a fantastic standalone/pc vr headset which can do a bit of mixed reality.. despite metas marketing this device strength is VR, i wouldnt buy it purely for MR just yet.. I love mine and use it everyday for work and pleasure, but im a VR enthusiast :)

[@n1nj910]

just got my quest 3 im loving it, it basically replaces my laptop and a lot of things i use my xbox for...

[@dan_kitty_vr5107]

sweet! @@n1nj910

[@pumpuppthevolume]

did u watch the genius bar episodes about Vpro

[@shanecraigtech]

No, I've only watched the verge review and a couple of videos from MKBHD.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@shanecraigtech there 2 ep now ....they r really long tho ....but if u check them out u might find it really interesting

[@hammy2779]

Love your videos Shane keep them up! 😃

[@SpaceSpuddd]

Have you tried playing the steam deck with the quest 3 ?

[@shanecraigtech]

I haven't. My guess is it'd be rough though.

[@SpaceSpuddd]

@@shanecraigtech I’d love to see how it works if you ever get the chance to test it out! I’m Looking at picking up both soon, would be cool to fire up the steam on a large virtual screen.

[@benjiebarker]

you should try dungeons of eternity. its like you are in the lord of the rings movie

[@Kevinhb_]

Hah i need to buy the meta quest 3. Last tome i used vr was years ago on the oculas quest gen 1.

[@jeffwoodard]

Good vid. Thanks shane.

[@_Pikalika_]

Nothing the apple vision can do appeals to me, watching a movie might be nice from time to time and the environment app looks amazing, but its a gimmick you use it once or twice and get over it. I want vr games, not a fancy ipad

[@Grimjow-bp5pc]

great topic love this video❤

[@Ni5ei]

12:35 Doing the Italian thing or not, you look like a crazy person wearing a headset outside either way 😂

[@shanecraigtech]

True

[@DavidLeBlancHero]

But that’s what I said too ! My meta quest 3 does all that already 😅🙌🏼 I love Apple , I’m a fan boy fosure but honestly tho I’m not sold with the Vision Pro

[@TransitAndTeslas]

I’m a huge Apple sheep, more than I care to admit. But the Vision Pro just isn’t something that I have found myself interested in. I use everything else Apple, even went as far as making sure my car had Apple CarPlay. I use the Apple Card, I literally embody everything about this awesome ecosystem. I think for the same reason I didn’t like 3D tvs, requiring me to wear something to enjoy it, and the fact that I can’t enjoy it with others, I just have zero interest. I bought a Meta Quest 3, but so far I’ve used it mostly as just a fitness device with an app called Supernatural. I have tried a few games on it, but have not bothered with them since. When I watch tv, it’s mostly a group activity, which I can’t do with watching it in the Quest or Vision Pro. As for your example of building that thing with a screen in front of you, I’d just stick an iPad next to me.

[@shanecraigtech]

To be totally honest, I think most people are going to feel similarly. VR is going to be a niche thing.

[@bujin5455]

Yep, you can buy the MQ3 for a fraction of the price at a fraction of the fidelity.

[@GanjaNomad]

I love the Quest 3, it does everything i need it to do as far as a VR headset is concerned...I would never spend $3500 on any VR headset on the planet, no matter what it does or no matter how much work i need to do on my mac. Just isnt practical...i havent seen one single feature on any of these videos that makes it worth anywhere near that price. Not one....i appreciate what Apple is trying to accomplish with it, but to me its just another cash grab scheme, simply because they know whatever price they choose to put on it...some people will buy it regardless. It is what it is...but i wouldnt be interested in upgrading at all from the Q3 until something comes out with complete FOV.

[@ProfPressure]

Why do you sound like the guy from Xp Earned 🤔 i might buy one though

[@shanecraigtech]

Ha. Haven't heard that name in a while lol. Hope you're doing good dude!

[@ProfPressure]

​@@shanecraigtechlmao it is you 🫡 I changed my name from the nerd delegation, I knew the voice was familiar

[@shanecraigtech]

Yep, chasing my real love of tech these days. I think I'm still subscribed from all those years ago lol.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

q3 is worth it compared to q2 ...far better soc and the lenses and the size r far better ....and of course somewhat usable passthrough for the background of a game ....like Demeo ....and the rings on the controllers of q2 r unnecessary

[@123glass7]

Buying a quest three to play quest one games as diabolical.

[@scooter5480]

It looks as good as the vision pro

[@shanecraigtech]

It's definitely not, but it's also definitely a lot better than 1/7 as good lol.

[@WhoKnowsZombie]

One of best things about Vision Pro that adds most of its value is the Apple ecosystem like there was so many times I wanted to use a certain app on quest and most times when I looked for an app I wanted it didn’t have it. But with my Apple Vision Pro it has everything I look up. Being able to just check twitter, answer texts, do phone calls and face time, listen to Apple Music and so much more has honestly made what I spent worth it. I bought it because I spend my days mainly watching tv so the Vision Pro was perfect for movies and tv. And that alone has been amazing but the ecosystem made it even better. Being able to control all my smart home devices from it is amazing as well

[@shanecraigtech]

To be clear, you can check Twitter, answer texts and listen to KZbin music on the quest. It is certainly fair to point out people who are heavily invested in happily consistent will benefit more from buying a device seated within the Apple ecosystem though.

[@Matic3d]

Not enough people realize you can sideload most android apps to Quest just like any android phone or tablet and they work fine. Sure the Apple ecosystem is super integrated compared to the android ecosystem, but you are also a captive audience who ends up paying thru the nose for the privilege on both hardware, accessories and software. I’m willing to skip facetime, and actually it turns out in quest3 i can hang out and watch movies or play pool with remote friends in quest3. I bought myself and a few family quest3 and still only spent a fraction of the cost and now we can all spend time together across the planet.

[@andrievbastichy8551]

Poor wigglers like me just watch videos because i cant even afford the "budget"

[@anglosaxonbreed]

Google vr is free. Samsung VR is free. Apple VR missed the boat by 5 years

[@Killswitch1411]

Meta dropped the ball on the quest 3 Mic.

[@shanecraigtech]

Yeah, it's not great. In portions of this, I'm using an external mic.

[@prettyboyerin8879]

Meta has more features but apple do them better I’ll choose meta cause of the games n vr experience

[@italiener82]

What's a sci-fi Italian? 🤣

[@shanecraigtech]

If you don't already know, you can't afford it.

[@MacTX]

If all you do is gaming, the choice is pretty clear, you're not buying/using AVP. For everything else, the Quest 3 vs AVP question for a lot of people will be what level of quality are they willing to pay for. Everyone will have their own value standards and expectations and not everyone will be the same. That's why there are Free to $300 budget class phones as well as $1000 to $2000 high end phones. If you value premium, it's really hard to use a premium product and go back to a budge product. If that's not important to you, it's very easy and you're more than likely a budge device user anyways. There's no right or wrong, people just have different standards.

[@MacTX]

​@@rangerkayla8824 I used to be well entrenched in the Apple ecosystem. I can't afford to be in the Apple cult. If I could, I would though. I never understood the hate some people have towards Apple. It comes across as jealousy most the time to outright hatred at other times. Very defensive response to anything Apple does. Apple has shifted the tech industry so often that jealousy does seem appropriate of a response from people who refuse to use their products. The response to AVP from Quest users has been the most intense of them all. Oddly, I can't completely fault them. I've watched them over the years from the early Oculus days to what it is now, they're a proud bunch. To have a company like Apple come along and set up a tent nearby to try and steal the show, I'd be angry too.

[@Matic3d]

But the thing most people havent realized is that this premium product cant do a lot that you can do with the budget product. And not just gaming. I have yet to see remote people watching movies together with AVP, something I do a lot with my quest. And playing xbox while watching 180 vr sports from my couch with a $500 device is pretty awesome…

[@Daddyhack2174]

Everyone in these comments clearly havent used the Vision Pro. I own one. It is next compared to this. The pass, though on this device, is terrible in comparison.

[@shanecraigtech]

Congratulations

[@WeAreTheKulture]

Agreed, it’s clear people dont own a Vision Pro. This is like saying I have a car, its a corolla, its the same thing as a rolls royce. The difference between the two are night and day.

[@Badbigboy123]

@@WeAreTheKulture if you only need to drive to work and back then the Corolla is all u need

[@shanecraigtech]

And it's clear some people are missing what should be an incredibly obvious point with videos like these.

[@TRX25EX]

I have both and what you said is rubbish, who cares about passthrough? What matters in passthrough is giving situational awareness not to look lifelike because Vision Pro definitely doesn't look lifelike + it have worse motion blur than Quest 3.....