Can The Perma-Spike Get 2 MILLION Pops? (Bloons TD 6)

[@jamesfisher4388]

I love how the perma spike is not permanent, it last like 4 rounds or 300 seconds (whichever comes first)

[@ninck8992]

Least cash/tiers bosses would get insanely out of hand if it was permanent

[@goatnoodles9162]

Perma spike really shouldn't have a round limit just a time limit imo

[@DaDragon8tor]

Really? I have had mine last WAY longer than that even after being sold

[@xross_cnr9905]

I thought it was 10 rounds

[@megarotom1590]

Thought it was 5

[@ambros1a_]

Few notes if you try this again in a different map: I don’t know what version this was done in, but 020 spike got nerfed so 10x is now the better crosspath in every single situation Downdraft is a lot of money to commit so owl is more commonly used for stall, you could’ve afforded perma spike far earlier Rounds should be black bordered ideally because spikes lose all buffs on reload

[@daniel19465]

prolly most recent version

[@michaelbeatyou5345]

@@TYsdrawkcaB 10x IS better but if 10x and 02x had the same dps, mermonkey buff on both would have the exact same dps as eachother still. If the buff was additive then it would favor faster attack speed less base pierce, but it's the exact same for both since its multiplicative.

[@Humblenoob935]

When did 025 get nerfed? Not that I don’t believe you just curious

[@ambros1a_]

@@Humblenoob935 44.0 nerfed 020 spike factory

[@HgDR.stoobid]

Even with alch?

[@kavinvenkatesh1581]

Ok but when #ouch 2MP

[@a-wv3te]

you are crazy!!!!!!!! but i gave like

[@MehalicPops]

Bro loves #ouch 💀💀also thanks for the superthanks

[@llowotv]

ouch

[@FürstUranovderEchte]

Do Ouch+two megapops+2 tc+half cash😮😅

[@Faze_Stylo69]

@@MehalicPopsnot even a thanks for the $10 💀💀

[@tbush6657]

You were accidentally right since on the Spike Factory specifically it always uses every pierce, unlike a dart monkey which might miss full pierce if not aimed properly. So if a 10 spike pile is buffed with +1 pierce, it will do 11 damage consistently, but if that spike pile is instead buffed with +1damage, every spike will do 2 damage totalling 20 per pile. The +1 damage falls off on later tiers since +1 pierce on 50 damage per spike (I think that's what the permaspike is) is +50 damage while +1 damage on 50 damage is 51 damage.

[@RichardDong68]

The idea sounded easy at first, until I remembered one time I relied on Permaspike too much on Corn Field Chimps without removing any corn, and got completely destroyed by Round 98.

[@thatnolan]

I know you corrected yourself at 4:49 but for the spike factory pierce = damage (this is the only tower this is true), so technically it was +1 damage.

[@Kevaca]

Not completely For early levels (i.e, before xx4) functionally damage = pierce, but further upgrades unbalance the equality

[@sage5296]

Damage < pierce, 2 damage 5 times beats 1 damage 6 times in most cases, especially once you factor in layer skipping (popping a zebra 2 layers at once is effectively 3 pops)

[@YonaMcBona]

i love the casual challenge attempts, its actually sorta interesting when you fail it cause not every video is a success with 2megapops

[@MehalicPops]

yeah, I think that makes it interesting too, but I did really want to win one this time since ive failed alot of 2mp recently

[@fipinoob2955]

Call to Arms only affects the towers in its range, Homeland does so on the entire map. So by putting CtA on the discount tile you made it not affect your Perma untill upgraded. Also the timing is also important cause it gives +50% pierce while active (100% for homeland) which helps a lot when the bloons touch the pile.

[@MehalicPops]

CTA has global range in btd6, it was buffed to do that a while back.

[@Craigalicioususa]

Makes you realize that using perma spike path in Chimps is the only time where it's easier to play straight through than hitting "retry last round" lol

[@LordStrudle]

I'm not sure how you'd set this up, but I'd like to see you try it. I call it the Fifty challenge. There are only two rules I'm thinking of, but you can add more if you like: 1. Every odd numbered round is completely deleted. You only face the even numbered rounds (2,4,6,8... all the way to 100). It's called the Fifty challenge because you'd only face 50 rounds total. 2. The prices are set to the "Impoppable" numbers. You could add things like the Chimps rules or even try the same thing with the "Alternate" style rounds, but I think just the base challenge would be a fun battle.

[@chadyourmaxdashdaddy]

Maybe like only 50,000 to work with, only 50 tiers, upgrades whose costs end in 50? I don’t know about that last one, I think it might be too restrictive. The rounds tho maybe there’s a mod, otherwise I’m not sure how to do it. It is a good idea tho

[@LordStrudle]

@@chadyourmaxdashdaddy I'd actually want to see it done where you keep it to the two rules. To word it a different way, it'd literally be a regular impoppable game, just minus half the rounds (which makes it harder, because you lose out on the time to farm)

[@MehalicPops]

sounds interesting, but I have no idea how I can change roundsets like that, even with mods

[@Borl0v14d]

There are mods that let you skip rounds iirc, but I don't know if it just skips the round or works like races

[@megarotom1590]

@@LordStrudle and limited to 50 tiers/j

[@konandrium]

Been watching a lot of bloons content lately. Your voice and videos have stood out to me. Earned a subscribe.

[@charli216]

Things should’ve worked with submerge. With denser rounds don’t forget about Geraldo’s creepy idols + glue gunner you already got. And for the purple rounds that Jerry’s fire can’t handle you could both micro heli so it shoots down a straight line forwards (chasing) and unsubmerge sub, and use microraptor. Also Moab glue would’ve really helped with stalling both before and after permaspike.

[@charli216]

And it’s probably worth timing the last CTA/Homeland ability with the fast spike deploying at the start of each round.

[@TMM1616]

Ryan such a casual at BTD6 he doesn't even know Perma spike is the best tower in the game LOL!

[@MehalicPops]

💀

[@Neon-py4wy]

Bro he literally said that in the first sentece

[@sUpErBaNaNa12]

nahh its 0-0-0 dart monkey (how did you not know)

[@FenchBaget]

Free dart monkey has an infinite damage to cost ratio

[@sUpErBaNaNa12]

:o

[@chunkbase9636]

Yes! in fact, its so possible that it has been done on maps like dark castle and blons

[@MehalicPops]

Yes, but that’s back when permaspike was much much stronger, it’s gotten heavily nerfed since then.

[@chunkbase9636]

@@MehalicPops No, not really. The pspike that 2mpc’d blons is nearly if not just identical to current pspike, also, pspike receiving alot of nerfs is a pretty popular misconception as rohan himself said that its one of the least changed towers.

[@MehalicPops]

its still slightly worse than previous versions and was nerfed in 44.0. additionally alot of the 2mps were done with geraldo when he was significantly stronger than he is now

[@aliasgerchallawala4582]

@@MehalicPopsno bro top crosspath perma spike is the same as before and it is better

[@chunkbase9636]

@@MehalicPops Dark castle pspike 2mp was done with gwen

[@borb43]

1:50 thats +1 pierce

[@grawlicks]

I may be wrong here but I feel like Fortify Stripping Mortar would have been very useful here, although pretty difficult microing

[@willchangehandlelater]

the spike factory insta you got fits perfect to this

[@poopalachas5200]

Payday "oh and the autistic peanut allergic kid, fuck'em" my brother grabbing his throat barely able to breathe on the elementary school's outdoor eating grounds. People on the internet, AllErgYs dOn'T ExISt.

[@Triist99]

14:36 why the hell is this zoom and his shooting so funny 😭

[@Robolav1]

I get the idea of doing this map but I would’ve done logs as I believe the long length would give it a bigger spike pile even if it will take longer to get homeland defense:D

[@Pax_Mayn3]

I don't know why people say Quincy is mid, I got 20million pops and I could have did a lot better using him as my main damage. With overclock 10x and permabrew he's an absolute beast against everything. Plus with his bounce he does consistent unmissable damage. I actually think he's overpowered compared to way more expensive heroes. Totally off topic I just felt like pointing that out.

[@999_Apple]

Nah most of the others are really good at specific things like bosses or races or have really high damage, Quincy is just decent at everything

[@imcool3184]

​@@999_Appleyeah.. when you have little bit of everything it gets outclassed giving the illusion that it's bad

[@999_Apple]

@@imcool3184 I’m not sure what you’re trying to say, but I never said Quincy was bad however at every stage of the game their are much better options

[@imcool3184]

@@999_Apple outclassing: a certain unit doing a better job in the thing it specializes in than the other one in the same subject.

[@999_Apple]

@@imcool3184 again i dont know what you are trying to say, i know what outclassing means but im done talking about this

[@Eos05]

Great work my friend!

[@justfeeldbyrne2791]

I might try this to get my achievement it looks fun

[@Introvert-ez]

I think if you bought a potion that added range and hit camo balloons - it would have reset your far targeting where you wanted it

[@JoelTheParrot]

2mil with my long-time-favourite second favourite tower and it has my as-of-a-couple-years-ago-or-so favourite tower as an earlygame supplement :D!!! wow that Spike Factory on Far tech is pretty cool :o bruh the retry last round glitching out >o< great job! part of me wants to suggest a beast handler 2 megapops since i want to see you use that tower more but honestly? 2 megapops with beast handler is super-omega-easy mode since the pop count of every beast in a merge goes to one beast handler. to make it interesting it'd have to be like... an expert map lol. or erosion

[@animejuggernaut2553]

Wouldn't it have been far easier to do this on a different map, where the tracks line up in such a way that the spactory can throw the spikes pretty far ahead in the tracks? That way you could have buffed it with the top path mermonkey+striker+top path for a MASSIVE pierce buff and none of these towers could steal pops since the spikes would pop everything earlier in the track?

[@Paytrolah]

Not going to lie as a battles 2 player I pretty much laughed and shook my head when I saw the title. I didn't expect this vid to even get CLOSE to 2 megapops, turns out I severely underestimated permaspike...

[@Jo-po2oo]

Damn nicely played ggs

[@miranhaespada1381]

I dont really understand how did u need so many trys to think about getting the glue on a primary square Like, it is in a better place and also gets a buff, and since its a tower that doesnt get pops, it's perfect

[@prathamshah4762]

For people who are new dont forget to subscribe!

[@Colgate365]

Did my guy seriously buy perishing potions in a 2 megapops 🤦‍♂️

[@Salah-IstandwithPalestine]

It buffs the alchemist buff makes it last longer

[@HgDR.stoobid]

​@@Salah-IstandwithPalestineit defortifies stuff so faster throwing or not crosspathing it would have been better

[@Horseyh]

I stand with Israel ​@@Salah-IstandwithPalestine

[@Detwand]

Ryan is heavy contender for best uprising BTD6 KZbinr, greeding for top position as always.

[@MehalicPops]

appreciate that!

[@pancwake8444]

I already know theres gonna be so many problems cuz of saved spikes disappearing on restart round 😭

[@leadedbison1997]

Subbed start 10k gang

[@BlumiTheGhost]

I wish you had shown the total pop count for all the other towers at the end

[@h2kwolfz572]

1:49 it's a pierce icon. don't know how much pierce tho. but pierce is perfect for p-spike. Edit: 4:49 oops caught me...

[@balovr6821]

I'm really enjoying these CHIMPS challenges. And that's on cod 🐟

[@MockySocky]

When is the next “First 2tc on (Blank) map” video?

[@MehalicPops]

its very hard to find new ones lol, ive tested a couple that hasnt worked

[@ImMrMes33ks]

Are you trying to use boost when the bloons get towards the end of the map? Lol it sounds like you're hitting the space bar when you get overwhelmed.

[@m4dsi427]

should've used glue a lot more

[@powdering]

Why didn’t you like the jerrys fire as it adds the damage to the permaspike

[@TommyToes96]

PUT YOUR SPIKE FACTORY ON CLOSE OMGGGG YOU'RE KILLING ME😭😭😭😭

[@stormonmsk4525]

Why tho wouldnt it be worse?

[@uzundeprem5743]

Jerrys fire cheese is so played out dude

[@Kapibara__gaming]

bro got a 0-0-0 spike insta monkey...

[@alexanderschnittert2242]

They're called regrow bloons/regrow farms, not region ;D

[@AtlanticCow]

I think the invis pot ran out and and that’s way far glitched so it looked like it was still there but it wasn’t really

[@bobby6849]

G freaking G my guy

[@ThatGuyDylanFR]

Under 1Millon subs gang

[@injoethehero]

How long did this take?

[@powdering]

why didn’t you just put smart targeting always as it just means more spikes

[@maxt2822]

why not use striker and lord of abyss out of range to increase pierce instead of relying on gerry fire

[@slothicc]

cant every tower get 2 million pops? except for banana farm ofc

[@MehalicPops]

Goodluck getting 2 million pops with a 0-0-0 ice monkey

[@slothicc]

@@MehalicPops right... stupid moabs

[@Boomerang_monkey1]

You have to get it on chimps

[@pinarjohnrobinkristoffer8961]

why is your pfp here in 0:06?

[@amry_the_noob9846]

ryan, that was a pierce tile, but since pierce = damage to spike factory, yeah you where half correct

[@beaconJr64]

nerf permaspikes spikes and remove the decaying untill 20 round or 15 minutes pass

[@goldenpig6453]

ah yes, because the first twenty nerfs weren't enough

[@undynesgaming9462]

​@@goldenpig6453 ikr 😂

[@moose6991]

is striker jones not better for spike factory giving more peirce

[@bigfella23729]

is spiked mines 2mpc possible? i tried on logs with striker and overclock and the 402 crosspath but i got stuck on 94.

[@daniel19465]

just put it on close targetting bro😭😭

[@MehalicPops]

put it on close targeting lets all the bloons pass my dart monkey/engineer range and they rack pops. the whole purpose of the invis potion was to throw the spikes at the start so nothing could steal

[@invinsible1987]

Super glue and the challenge was free

[@MehalicPops]

Super glue pops Bloons and a decent bit of them (even with middle crosspath)

[@wojteklesniczak8647]

are you ryan mehalic?

[@SmileyTheFoot]

Probably

[@guotyr2502]

eraldo is an asspull, they shpuld 100% nerf him to use items only in range

[@Stagnated541]

👍

[@Efwin197]

Hi

[@jacksonbrown6576]

stoooool lol

[@Beastman6090l]

🌽🐀🧀🍰

[@alexanderfrsch]

Corn rat cheese cake?

[@Boomerang_monkey1]

Lol

[@a-wv3te]

sometimes regent farm is realy great beacos you can get more pops and more money

[@kavinvenkatesh1581]

In btd 6, regrow bloons do not give pops or money(except in soms bugged cases)

[@F22Raptor_Brqwlstars]

Yeah mainly to prevent paragon farming

[@Kevaca]

Regrow bloons no longer reward pops