Can The POC Helmet Be As Effective As My Bell In Preventing a Faceplant?

[@elissaalgora5907]

Wait as a ski coach I'm very worried about this video! The slalom bar is not made at all for protecting you if faceplating, its not a full face helmet! Its made to protect you from the slalom gate to hit your face while going down. When we free ski, I ask my athletes to take their other helmet or to take the bar off because its actually dangerous to fall with a bar on for your neck....

[@AdamU1016]

I understand your point of view. I was not promoting it for fast rides but simply as an alternative helmet when doing mellow rides. This slalom helmet in addition to my mod which reinforces the chin bar’s strength is at least better than a regular helmet with no chin protection. I have since further reinforced the chin bar with paracord. For my regular fast rides I use my Bell 3R helmet with MIPS. Please watch the full video if you have not. In a slow ride I have a much better chance to initiate a tuck and roll to decrease a full face plant. It has actually happened to me on a mellow ride and I was able to do my evasive maneuver to avoid having to test the chin bar. Even if I do end up with a face plant the reinforced chin bar would at least absorb some of the impact to decrease the force of blow. In my video link below, I have the full clip of my fall while using the POC helmet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJCpeKqZjNF2gac

[@elissaalgora5907]

@@AdamU1016 im sorry but no, its not a full face at all its a ski helmet and the bar is made to protect your chin in case the slalom bar hits you. You should never free ski with a bar, its better not to have one. If you fall the bar can hurt your neck because I repeat is not a full face.

[@elissaalgora5907]

Even less bike with it???? Its not its purpose at all, I cant believe people actually buy what you’re saying in this video, Im sorry.

[@AdamU1016]

@@elissaalgora5907 - I do appreciate your input. You are a ski instructor and certainly more knowledgeable with the chin bar issue. You are saying that if the chin bar breaks, it could hit my neck. Did you watch in the video that I had shown a skier fall forward and the chin bar stayed intact? I reinforced that same chin bar on my helmet. My rationale is that it should be enough to tolerate a low speed crash. I am stressing the low speed because I intend to include my tuck and roll technique in my falls. I am a black belt in Tae Kwon Do and quite comfortable in judo falls similar to tuck and roll. For fast rides I use my Bell full face helmet. I use the POC helmet with chin guard on mellow rides where I should have time to do the tuck and roll. Did you watch the link where I fell and did the tuck and roll? I do use my Bell 3R MIPS full face helmet when I go on group rides with my EUC. I don’t ski anymore but if I do again I would be wearing a regular helmet with no chin bar.

[@elissaalgora5907]

@@AdamU1016 Hi, Im actually a race coach. We are aware that in some cases the bar does'nt come off when you fall and that it can be dangerous for the neck in extension, because the helmet offers no neck protection like a full face helmet would. A full face is made so that you dont extend your neck, but not a slalom helmet. Which is why we only use the bar when we do slalom gates.

[@Pantera-tp6jz]

Hi, as somebody who actually practices both snowboarding and downhill moutain biking i would just like to point out that ski helmets are by no means a replacement for full face motorcycle style helmets the main reason we wear those over the top helmets for biking, apart from the superior protection they offer at the high speed we are going at (up to around 65mph for elite athletes during races) is also the better coverage they provide when it comes to crashing into obstacles keep in mind that the ski slope is extremly smooth and the helmets are made for that situation and not a meeting with a rock face at highway speeds. I've seen many destroyed chinbars on downhill helmets, i would be very afraid of the chinbar on the poc helmet snapping and causing severe damage to your head. In conclusion this helmet is designed mainly for snow sports use and it's not recommended to use it outside of those conditions.

[@AdamU1016]

@@Pantera-tp6jz I do appreciate your input but did you even watch a second of the video? I mentioned that I would be riding it for mellow rides. For the faster group rides, I would be using my Bell full face helmet. A helmet is better than no helmet in a slow speed fall. As a favor, please watch my video as I really put great effort in presenting my point of view.

[@Pantera-tp6jz]

​ @AdamU1016 i did watch the second part of the video but still my point stands those helmets are designed for skiing where obstacles are quite rare, the bar could in my opinion easily split on a rock or a curb during a fall causing substantial injuries. I don't so much mind the helmet itself being used but in my opinion a half shell mountain biking helmet would offer better protection.

[@AdamU1016]

@@Pantera-tp6jz The half shell helmet has no front protection at all. The POC helmet in the video has the front portion of the helmet so thick that in addition to the chin bar which I had also mentioned was further reinforced with another same POC chin guard (therefore double the firmness and thickness of the original) should be able to provide enough tension and protection to prevent a full on faceplant. I have since strengthened the chin guard with paracord wrapped multiple times at 3 major points. The half shell helmet would have no face plant protection at all. As I said in my video, this POC helmet with reinforced chin guard and SPIN technology (similar to MIPS) will be enough for slow rides less than 20 mph. When one crashes at that speed, it is not like a tree that falls flat on the ground. The body is in a forward motion so the kinetic energy is being dissipated as one slides to a stop. When an EUC rider falls, we don’t have the Wheel still connected on our feet. We become disconnected to the EUC and able to move our legs and free hands to do evasive maneuvers. In addition, we are not rag dolls that just flop down in a fall. Evasive maneuvers such as tuck and roll and even just a movement of the free hands with wrist guards. In a slow crash there is increased reaction time. In addition to all I mentioned, the POC helmet with reinforced chin guard will be enough in a slow speed crash. It also does not look as intimidating as my Bell full face. All these justifications and more are explained in my well thought out video which I hope you will watch in its entirety and not just look at the cover picture for the conclusion.

[@andrewrathbun2775]

do you realize that this helmet is specifically made for ski racing?

[@AdamU1016]

Yes I do. May I ask how many seconds of the video did you watch? I even have a clip of a skier using the POC at 6:12. Please watch the whole video.

[@andrewrathbun2775]

@@AdamU1016 mb judging from the start of the video it looked like you wanted to use this helmet for skateboarding or biking and if you fall the injuries would defenitally be really terrible and thats why its made specifically for ski racing.

[@AdamU1016]

@@andrewrathbun2775 - I understand and I agree with you. I use the POC for mellow rides. Better than no helmet. I have fallen when I was going slowly using the POC and I was able to do an appropriate tuck and roll and I avoided a faceplant. No injuries. For faster rides I use my Bell Super 3R. Here is my fall and successful evasive maneuver at slow speed while wearing the POC. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJCpeKqZjNF2gacsi=HqzQ2dnwAZ3kGcZi There is more to riding than just wearing the proper gear. We have to also know how to fall. My background in TaeKwonDo and Judo as well as self taught Parkour skills have made me adept at learning how to fall properly. Check out my other videos especially the one called “The Way of Bruce and Jackie”.

[@kft4764]

The intro clip of you riding in your hospital uniform had me worried. Be careful of your long coat getting sucked into the wheel cavity space. The wind is helping keep your coat off of the tire, but I can imagine a case at lower speeds where the tire grabs your coat and pulls it in.

[@AdamU1016]

Yeah I was definitely concerned about the bottom part of the gown catching in the tire. I just did this for the intro which I wanted to be dramatic. It’s like the line in The Incredibles movie -“No capes!” Lol.

[@Allride_]

I don’t like the idea of the added chinbar at all. The zipties are the weakspot of this addition and I’d be worried about that thing coming lose and poking my eye out

[@AdamU1016]

I have actually modified the reinforcement since then. The zip ties were replaced with 0.5 mm paracord wrapped several times at 3 points. One in the center and one at each end of the chin bar. The paracords were also then glazed over with superglue to keep them from sliding as well as strengthen them.

[@Curtish8892H]

Thank you. I am waiting for mine to be delivered. I have been asking but all the responses were very straight forward “no good, you need a full face helmet”. Your explanation supports my decision. For easy going rides POC is good enough. At the current time I only travel at 30 to 40 km/hr. I feel silly wearing a full face when a cyclist blows by me at 42 and he is in a head coverage cycling helmet. If I ever get a big boy EUC and start riding at 60+ km/hrs then a real helmet will be in play.

[@AdamU1016]

My first wheel (Fastwheel Eva Pro) back in 2015 had max speed of 22 km/hr and back then that was considered fast. Lol. My 2nd wheel in 2016 (KS14C) had max speed 32 km/hr. Full face helmets back then weren’t even considered. I have crashed at 20-30 km/hr and had plenty of reaction time to minimize injury via either running it out or a tuck and roll. I feel the POC helmet in slow rides would be sufficient as headgear. However, if you plan to do fast and aggressive riding then a full face should be in order. Thanks for watching and stay safe!

[@FatherDave]

Thank you! I love your comments on a non aggressive appearance. I'm a Catholic priest and love riding (just picked up a v11 to replace my KS16s). I was in a bad crash just before covid and of course it was wheel cutoff. I had a fox full face helmet and it sure saved me. I also had on full protection. While protective it comes across as super aggressive, which can lead to negative impressions from others sharing the bike paths. I was staying away from the open helmets because of my crash but just ordered this one after watching your video. Thank you. You also mentioned a NJ crew at the end. I've not heard of them yet. I'm in central Jersey, Point Pleasant. Whereabouts are they may I ask? I haven't seen any other riders about here, just occasionally a one wheeler

[@AdamU1016]

Glad to hear you are OK from your crash. I feel the POC helmet would be more than adequate for slow to medium rides. At slow speed crashes, there are other options to mitigate a faceplant such as running it out, tuck and roll, and even sliding with the right gear on. I have recruited 3 surgeons here at my hospital and they now are as crazy about EUC as I am. I also know a few people in North Jersey that I have ridden with. I am in Central Jersey too. I also ride with OneWheelers. Next time there is a group ride here I can let you know. There is also Rutgers ESk8 group but they are not just college students. There are also riders my age too from the 30-50 something age group. facebook.com/groups/RUesk8/?ref=share I am hoping to attend the yearly NYC Summer Streets in August where they close 9 miles of NYC streets for pedestrians, cyclists, runners, etc. Come join our NYC E-Riders group where we post NYC and NJ group rides. facebook.com/groups/309931096098067/?ref=share

[@AdamU1016]

Just a heads up. A Garden State NJ Riders Group was just started. Come join! facebook.com/groups/456539332116723/?ref=share

[@ajsena1655]

I like the helmet for low speed riding and the reinforcement is a good idea, but it doesn't really provide any additional structural rigidity. For it to add more rigidity, it would need to be attached to the helmet. Since it's just taped and zip tied to the existing chin bar, all it does is provide a little bit of padding.

[@AdamU1016]

You are right and the weakest links are the connections on both sides of the helmet. I was thinking of drilling holes for screws but it is such a beautiful helmet. I only use the POC for mellow rides and to just be vigilant and be proficient in my landing techniques.

[@rhalfik]

You're the smartest EUC creator I found. I learn a lot here.

[@AdamU1016]

Thanks! I appreciate the compliment. Many of my EUC videos have a component of medicine added in for flavor. Please check out one of my favorites regarding incorporating Parkour skills into preventing injury when we fall titled The Way of Bruce and Jackie. Have safe rides! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZS0f2N7lKucf5o

[@josephscalia1251]

one wheelers, including myself, sometimes wear full face helmet but might be overkill for anything less than 15mph, or maybe not. I don’t know for sure.

[@AdamU1016]

Hi Joe! One wheelers have less chance of face planting with their side stance vs. EUCers with forward stance. This is why most Onewheelers don’t wear full face helmet. Most serious injury for them is clavicular fracture. What a relief, right? 🤗. A regular open helmet will more than suffice for OneWheel riding.

[@OnAirPromo]

I really like the idea of this helmet and would get one if I were more confident with the face protection. I have a Bell 3R Air that I use for warm weather. I think a sunshade/visor arrangement for the POC would help as it sticks out from the top like the bill of a cap. That would help keep your face off the ground. Very informative video Adam - thank you so much for making it and posting! :)

[@AdamU1016]

Thanks, Larry! I would only be using the POC for my slow rides in my town. I have seen enough slalom crashes with POC helmet chinguards that I feel confident in its protective ability in a slow-medium velocity crash. I think that in an angled crash versus a direct impact crash the POC chin guard will be adequate. Since my mod, I feel much more reassured of its strength.

[@Dani-TiVi]

It is also to be hoped that the lateral attachments of the chin strap will withstand a direct frontal impact on tar

[@christinaguindon3050]

Thank you so much for sharing ❤

[@AdamU1016]

@@christinaguindon3050 - The POC helmet is super comfortable in both summer and winter. The main reason I use it is to not be so intimidating when I do my mellow rides. Definitely not as protective in a faceplant versus a real full face helmet but certainly better than no helmet at all. Have safe rides!

[@Platypus-Dreams]

This is hands down the best helmet review I've ever seen

[@ericanderson4975]

where is your Bell 3R helmet video?

[@AdamU1016]

The Bell 3R is a great helmet. I interchange between the 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZTJcqqHat55oM0

[@ashirokai]

I learned more about helmet protection from this video than from any other long and explanatory vids or texts I've ever read. Can't say thank you enough, Adam! P.S. Did you get a chance to ride Inmotion V11 or another euc with the suspension? I'd really like to know your opinion on that ;P

[@AdamU1016]

Thanks! I always try to put some medical info in my videos to give it some flavor. I have ridden the KS S18 and it rides so smoothly. The S18 wins for best looking EUC ever. I have had 2 KS wheels in the past and never had a single problem with them. The suspensions are a great improvement. One of my friends also got the V11 and looking forward to trying it out in the next group ride. He says it rides like a smooth sedan. I currently have the Nikola 100V and really love the power, speed, torque and range. I would like to get a suspension wheel in the future. If not I will probably get the Veteran Sherman.

[@keithancajas4623]

been waiting forever for someone to review the poc slalom helmet since i first saw hsiang wear it. finally! i want one for the same reason; strolling around town or buying groceries.. but damn it's expensive..

[@AdamU1016]

It’s a nice helmet. Very light and comfortable. I got my Arctic SL 360 SPIN for $200 at starthaus.com. They had a sale. Usually they sell for $250. There is an older model called the Arctic SL SPIN that I have seen selling for $150-$175. I usually just do a Google search and hit shopping. Sometimes you might get lucky and they have excess inventory of the older model. Thanks for watching!

[@keithancajas4623]

@@AdamU1016 thanks doc! will check them out

[@pauldfinch4145]

My 2 euc helmets exactly, same reasoning. The new poc slalom has gone mips. The bell chinguard hangs out a lot further, I'm guessing more leverage to twist my head off? Great vids keep em coming.

[@AdamU1016]

Great minds think alike. 😊 I don’t like to look like Robocop on mellow rides. I think that is overkill. We also have more reaction time to do more evasive maneuvers such as tuck and roll when the ride is slow so I don’t feel there is a need to wear more extensive headgear. Riding with more aggressive riders would of course make me want to wear the Bell Super 3R. Stay safe!

[@kost.pan.3039]

Thanks very much for the video!!! I think that a helmet for a ROAD BICYCLE must be with chin protection!

[@AdamU1016]

You’re welcome. Chin protection is a must for for high velocity forward stance riding and I agree also with a road bicycle.

[@wito89]

Can I please you about link to this modification from eBay?

[@AdamU1016]

There is no link. I just bought a used POC helmet chinguard of the same model that my helmet came with. Someone on eBay was actually selling their POC chinguard. I used that extra chinguard to reinforce the stock chinguard. I used black paracord wrapped multiple times on each end as well as the middle.

[@simonreilly213]

This is so confusing to me. The slalom chin-guard is in no way designed to protect you from facial impact with the ground, and is why the breakaway system is highly regarded. This chin guard is designed to prevent a ski racer who’s skiing slalom from losing their teeth to the gate if it so happens to hit them in the face. Any impact harder than that and these guards usually cause more damage than they prevent. You are promoting using this product in an unsafe manner.

[@AdamU1016]

I hope you watched the whole video before you came to this conclusion.

[@luischalasnyc9657]

You nailed it Adam, Thank you for your explanation.

[@AdamU1016]

You’re welcome! Stay safe and enjoy your rides.

[@stepyhenjkm]

Great video, I appreciate this content a lot. This kind of info is hard to find, so is a very important contribution to the community, Thank you!

[@AdamU1016]

Thanks! Glad you liked it. I have other videos on my channel that you might find interesting.

[@FHDadsBball]

Great video Adam. I just bought my first EUC and really like your focus on safety. Please keep them coming. I was going with a regular bike helmet but just bought the Bell Super 3R with MIPS after going through all your videos. I do agree that the full face option could be a bit intense when just riding around the neighborhood. At what speeds do you think is okay for going open face vs full face on the 3R? Would love to hear your thoughts about that. Thanks. Would also like to see more videos on other protect gear reviews. You recommended some on one of your videos but those are WAY expensive. Would be great if you can review some of the highly rated “budget” options found on Amazon. Thanks.

[@AdamU1016]

Thanks. When I first started riding I bought the cheapest gear I could find because I felt basically at the speed I went I just really needed to prevent road rash. That was many years ago when the max speed of wheels was 15-20 mph. I feel that when going only 10-15 mph most important to wear are helmet and wrist guards. Now EUCs can go 50 plus miles per hour. That is both good and bad. It is good that the higher max speed will decrease the chance of power cutout when the rider tries to go really fast. The bad is that injuries at high speed can be quite disastrous. Of course, an accident can happen anytime and my worst injury occurred at about 5 mph when I misjudged and got pedal clipped. I ended up fracturing my right rib. This is where knowing how to fall is also a must. Below are gear that I would recommend that are less expensive but are of good quality. I do have these Triple 8 elbow pads and the ones I recommended have Kevlar material and have Velcro straps to keep them from slipping off. My Triple 8 elbow pads helped prevent me from clavicular fracture when I fell sideways so I am convinced the material is thick and durable. With regards to wrist guards, make sure you get ones that have supporting splints to decrease the chance of hyperextending the wrist as well as sliders (very important) to further decrease the chance of hyperextending your wrist. I don’t like wearing external body armor such as the ones some wear. It looks overkill. I like to look more subtle by wearing a motorcycle jacket. They look less bulky, are made of tough material and have included back protector, shoulder and elbow pads. Cyclegear.com have great jackets at decent prices too. Protective Pads: amzn.to/3pGRaZL amzn.to/3oAPl1a amzn.to/3IJM0VV www.cyclegear.com/gear/bilt-techno-jacket

[@FHDadsBball]

@@AdamU1016 thanks Adam.

[@ewheelsfanclub4027]

I have this helmet and wonder if you knew what Bluetooth speakers fit inside if any? The helmet is too sound proof and I want to hear the beeps better and if I could pipe in sound I could hear them. I love the helmet but it's sound proofing is too good. Anyone recommend good helmet sound?

[@AdamU1016]

I never got the feeling that the helmet is too soundproof. I can easily hear when a car is about to come close from behind me. Regarding being too muffled to hear the wheel beeps I can understand what you mean. I think at speeds greater than 30 mph the wind noise just muffles the wheel beeps no matter what helmet we wear. I have heard of mods where people replace the built in speakers with bigger drivers though so it can be heard louder.

[@pandabike3826]

I'm considering a neck brace for my current full face helmet setup. Will a neck brace be uncomfortable? When the medical break down clip played, neck rotation looks like another area of concern.

[@AdamU1016]

When I go riding my EUC whether slow or fast, I usually wear helmet, wrist guards, knee pads and elbow pads. A neck brace would be unnecessary and would just be uncomfortable. It would also hinder a proper tuck and roll in a crash.

[@RobUKTH]

Really informative Adam, thank you 🙏. Ride safe! 👍😎

[@AdamU1016]

Thanks, Rob. Glad you liked it.

[@Dani-TiVi]

Very good video thank you Adam! I wonder if it would be effective on tar, because in the extract from your video we see a face plan in the snow ... I ride at 30km/h maximum with my ks16s.

[@AdamU1016]

Thanks! I am confident that in a slow crash, this POC chin guard should be sufficient to decrease the effects of an injury from a face plant. Having said this, I feel that for rides more than 20 mph where reaction time is less, a true full face helmet like my Bell Super 3R would be a better choice. I have fallen a few times on slow rides and in no way was I ever close to a face plant. Based on my experience on EUCs for almost 6 years now, I feel the POC should be fine for leisurely rides.

[@YASAJTV]

Excellent content.

[@timguo7334]

Great video, learnt a lot. But I just don't understand why you are using a ski helmet on the road and comparing it with a properly designed MTB helmet? They are different.

[@AdamU1016]

Did you watch the full video? I mentioned in detail my reasons. You are right. The 2 helmets are different. When I am doing fast rides such as my NYC friends or with other advanced riders, I opt for the Bell Super 3R helmet. It offers true full face protection. When I am doing a mellow ride around my town, I prefer my POC helmet. I will have more than enough time to respond to a potential faceplant crash. Check out my video “Unexpected Crash The Good and Bad” where I had a crash at slow speed while using my POC helmet. The key is being vigilant and knowing how to react when we fall. Having a POC helmet with some full face protection is much better than no helmet at all. It also does not look as intimidating when there are people around.

[@volooooo]

Not sure about that Person Of Color helmet

[@AdamU1016]

Lol. The person of color helmet is only used for mellow rides. Better than no helmet. It’s best to also learn proper tuck and roll techniques should a crash occur. With the right technique, the less reinforced chin guard should be able to sustain some minor impacts. For more aggressive rides, I use my Bell Super 3R helmet with true chin guard.

[@ronaldhenry5595]

Well informed

[@demetrizuev258]

I've been looking at this helmet for quite some time now, since I usually ride with a bike helmet with no chin guard and I just don't like full face helmets at all (tried the coolest TSG Pass and hated the feeling of being isolated) for various reasons. What I can't understand is can this chin guard actually protect you from hitting your jaw when you crash, is it strong enough for that, or will it snap off or crack immediately upon impact? The helmet itself was created for slalom competitions so it seems that this jaw piece is intended for hitting hard snow surfaces, but asphalt is much harder than snow...I was really hoping you would test the used chin guard by itself with a real impact on asphalt :)

[@AdamU1016]

The chin guard is definitely not as strong as my Bell helmet chin guard. The POC chin guard is pliable and not hard and brittle. Therefore, I feel it offers some give and less likely to break than a stiff chin guard. If anything the chin guard would lessen the impact and injury in a faceplant. In my video I did show a slalom skier face planting and the POC chin guard was effective and stayed intact. The POC helmet is also rather thick up front so that also offers increase buffer distance from a full on face-plant as I showed in my demo. I was not fully reassured by the POC chin guard durability if it could fully protect me in a face plant. That is why I decided to reinforce it with another POC chin guard I bought off EBay for $18. I have since further reinforced its connection by wrapping black paracord multiple times on both sides as well as midline. It is fully secure now. Overall, I feel more confident wearing this helmet versus a regular bike helmet with a chin guard and without looking too intimidating.

[@Papalou1234]

thank you good infos good video Doc👌🏻

[@AdamU1016]

Thanks, Luc!

[@ericanderson4975]

thank you! ❤

[@badimpulses17]

This helmet is only good for flat surface protection. If you land on a edge of a curb or hit a protruding rock your face is going to get smashed.

[@AdamU1016]

I totally agree with you. When I am doing rough terrain I use my Bell Super 3R full face helmet. The main reason I use the POC is when I am in the suburbs doing my chill rides. I look less intimidating to the local moms pushing their stroller. The cops are fine with me whether I use my Bell or POC. Riding slower also gives me more reaction time to do a tuck and roll and avoid a faceplant.

[@Shuttermemory]

Hsiang would love to see this

[@AdamU1016]

Maybe he has already seen it but decided not to comment. We are in a couple of chat forums. He apparently loves it as I do too.

[@Cons2911]

Sorry, that guy that went downhill with basically nothing on.. That's just stupid

[@AdamU1016]

Yeah that guy was stupid for doing that. I definitely do not condone it. Despite his reckless abandon of gear I could tell that he does have experience in preventing serious injury or he was just extremely lucky.

[@silbernersurfer8264]

At the speeds of EUC and the way you are falling a full face helmet is mandatory! Even at low speeds! Get a motorcycle helmet or at least a downhill helmet! Its not only about hitting the asphalt! There are situations where you hit an obstacle, or a truck rolls over your head! Motorcycle helmet is the best safety for most situations in accidents! Dont waste your life! Trust the experience of motorcyclists! And dont trust these flimsy tsg pass or predator helmets! They may look great! But for safety for a faceplant useless!

[@AdamU1016]

You certainly have good points. I now have a V13 and use my Bell full face helmet again. However, I will still on occasion use my POC helmet for a mellow ride. Yes an accident can happen anytime but for slow speeds around the park or anywhere there is mild traffic I feel comfortable using my POC. Check out my video Unexpected Fall The Good and Bad where I had a slow speed fall. I used a Tuck and Roll technique to avoid a faceplant.

[@marksac5080]

No bueno

[@AdamU1016]

Have you had experience with the POC in a faceplant?

[@eBoard3R]

🤙🏼⚡👀⚡🤙🏼

[@Babyfasty]

No chicks holder as motor bike helmet. They prevent your face going outside the helmet perimeter. This helmet is a joke.

[@AdamU1016]

What is a chicks holder?

[@Babyfasty]

@@AdamU1016 sry I mean Cheeks

[@AdamU1016]

@@Babyfasty - Did you get the right size helmet? Mine fits snugly on my head. There is also a ratchet wheel on the back of the helmet that will securely tighten its connection on the head. The helmet strap is firm and secure under my chin too. I recently fell and the helmet stayed on my head with no displacement of its secure position.

[@Babyfasty]

@@AdamU1016 it stays in place because you didn’t experience a crash. When you chose a motorcycle helmet the two keys are good maintain on your forehead and on your cheeks. On this helmet, the cheeks are free

[@AdamU1016]

@@Babyfasty - I see what you mean. On a motorbike you are also going much faster than I on an EUC with max speed no more than 35 mph. The cheeks are free when wearing the POC but for me at the speed I go through the helmet is secure. On my most recent crash, the helmet did stay in place. Here is my most recent video experiencing a crash while wearing the POC helmet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJCpeKqZjNF2gac