Can the SLINGSHOT keep up with a motorcycle in the MOUNTAINS?

Ducati Monster 1200r and a Slingshot SL go to the mountains. Does having 3 wheels make you that much faster? Let's find out!
Thanks to Polaris Slingshot for letting me borrow this thing for a while and checking it out!
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[@nickzaugg7440]

Outside to apex to outside is still the same in a car. As far as braking and downshifting, do it before the corner, the once you hit the apex throttle out.

In car you can do earlier apex safely. With motorcycle it is more safe to do late apex on public roads and use the power to accelerate out from the corners.

[@MichaelRachal]

Nick has it right. You are not using the gears.

[@lollandster]

Yes, select the correct gear while slowing down towards the turn. Changing gear takes time and you have no power during that time, so it's best to do it while you don't need the power. Don't go full throttle, after the turn, until you know you can without backing off again (smooth throttle). All this is the same on a motorcycle though, but shifting takes longer on a car so you loose more by doing it wrong. I'm not an expert, so take my advise with a grain of salt.

[@Myndi78]

Downshifts downshifts downshifts - Keep it in the powerband and USE that enginebraking! It has plenty of power but you're not giving it to the poor car!.... You had 2 hands on the wheel the entire video, can you imagine taking a motorcycleride without shifting? 😎

[@briandeluca6908]

Exactly he is not driving the vehical how it should be driven. He literally just said that somebody else can drive it better... he is 100% right. He can keep up with that bike but hwa not riding it right

[@fredrickshamery7746]

ok, in this video it is obvious that you are still not used to driving a stick/manual car. You need to actual change gears like you are on your bike. you were loosing power because you were not in the correct gear at certain points in the curves..

[@b_mb4948]

When a car/bike allows you to have fun within the speed limit, it's a great thing... P.S I think Polaris needs to put you in touch with one of their test drivers. I'd also like to see how fast this thing can really go. P.P.S I think you'll find that the Slingshot may have also felt better after the shock adjustment because you were going uphill, and therefore on the throttle more, especially during a turn. With some rear-wheel drive vehicles, they prefer for you to be on the throttle when cornering.

[@kevinbass1000]

Brodie Bennett I got mine to 143

[@scorpion251970]

When the Yamaha Niken comes out, you need to test it.

[@ianthomas3653]

I just looked that up and threw up in my mouth when i saw it.

[@scorpion251970]

Ian Thomas I know, it’s not pretty, but it’s got to be better than the slingshot.

[@hitmetohelp]

He already did.

[@shadoe1769]

I have several friends that have tried Blood Mountain on a slingshot, none of them can even keep up with a big Indian, much less a sport bike.

[@Elcapbro]

After you get used to rev matching and blipping the throttle in general, it is essential to learn to heel-toe when driving in the twisties.

[@nligman]

Study trail braking. I have done bike and car track days. In a car, you want to straight line brake and down shift to just faster than you think that you can take the corner. Then, by trail braking, you can load the front end up, get a very quick turn in, and hold traction on the front wheels until the Apex. Hit the Apex with nuetral throttle and braking, then power out to the limit of traction and track width.

[@wavingwill803]

Suspension changes are so easy a caveman (a chaseontwowheels man) can do it! Loved the video man. My family's special vacation spot is at Vogel State Park, so whenever I see you riding those roads, it makes me especially happy! Stay safe!

[@coleslaw110]

Just in case no one's made this joke already, does this mean your channel is now Chaseonthreewheels?

[@sethglenn9022]

Chase, I don't know if you will see this or not. But the Slingshot is not made for handling, It's made for drifting. That's why it only has one back tire, and the KTM Crossbow has 4 tires. That's why you notice the TC kicking in so often.

[@R6foreternity]

TCS off, heel/toe downshifting, still hitting the apex of a turn, better tires, some things to consider for spirited driving in a car. Just my two cents on the subject.

[@allenbankstusc]

I've been thinking seriously about getting a Slingshot. After close to 150k miles on a GL1800's at 57 I'm, getting to the age where I feel like sitting in one of these is a better option than a sports car. Thanks for pointing out the suspension option because there's not much more that I enjoy than getting in the twisties, even though the Goldwing isn't a sport bike I still get a lot of pleasure pushing it in the curves! I'm curious how the engine performs still, according to your review it sounds like it lacking power. Did you have to do a lot of shifting to keep it moving along? Thanks again, "Great review!"

[@ridew2334]

I think the throttle cuts out sometimes since your taking a corner and not downshifting with your revs. Almost like your stalling

[@brockhutchison3301]

I think you have the right idea with cutting the apex and exiting wide similar to how you would in a bike. I couldn't tell for sure what you were doing with braking and throttle but my only advice would be to brake leading up to the curve, coast as you enter the curve, and then smoothly accelerate as you go through and exit. mostly just don't brake while your in a turn, slow down before hand and accelerate through it. but more importantly just have fun ;)

[@tiradoed]

Cool video Chase!

[@sarge852]

Did this model have the 305mm wide rear tyre or the stock one? Couldn't quite read the list on the last video

[@peteyboy6629]

Watching this and not seeing or hearing the shifte rworked drove me nuts watching this video.

[@magnugeoff4947]

traction control off + keep the revs in the sweet spot, and same thing as a bike outside inside outside, if the back comes out u can control it much easier than a bike. I would love to rip that thing through those turns great driving for it being your first manual "car"?

[@advcomp2019]

These autocycles look like they are fun. Plus, Chase, you might want to do a video on autocycle laws since you did these videos on this autocycle.

[@benroyal3742]

That was so hard to watch... I know you've never driven a stick-shift before, and you're doing better, but you need to get quicker. I so want to get my hands on that thing and I will show you how to get that through the bends... Love your videos, bikes all the way...

[@MsLoneWolf4]

For racing pace driving techniques: 1. Heel and toe foot use. 2.the corning you already said. Keeping the engine in the powerband with sequecial shifting. (But not during a turn). Turn off traction control and learn how to manage your lead foot.

With car (slingshot) it is a lot easier to haul ass since you can do all kinds of panic braking and stuff in the corners without falling down from the mountain. You know the limit for turn-in speed when it just understeers and won't wanna turn in. Keep it tight at turn-in and just hammer the throttle even before apex since it has traction control and so little power.

I already did but didn't really get to use cornering abs. I also prefer 1190! It has punchier engine and better feedback.

ValhalaFiveSix In Finland (and EU) it is classified as a three wheeler and can be ridden with both car and motorcycle license. Helmet is required. It sure is not steered like a motorcycle and therefore shouldn't be called motorcycle. Most of the US also require only a car license to drive it. Polaris actually is trying to get it classified as an "autocycle".

Autocycle. Just wait and see when that classification comes to your state too.

[@skylerjohnson8488]

I love your videos they make my day every time I watch them

[@coupe437]

have a 2016 turn of traction and the rest of stuff, now you will have a drift monster for tight roads, live in Montana

[@jacobsedacca246]

dam i just did the suches loop last night for my first time haha. those were some amazing roads

[@TKLMotoVlog]

Same rule apply in cars, minimizing the traction needed with outside, inside, outside (straighten your line as much as possible) In a car, you do have 4 wheel, you compensate the traction with drifting/understeering (4 wheel drifting). You drift to reposition your car's pointing angle into the turn in accordance with your speed and direction.

[@Pyrex_lex]

In a rwd car apex everything maintain momentum and haul ass on the straights I couldn’t say how similar that is try riding a bike since I’m still kinda new still keeping it to mild highway turns and going fast in a straight line haven’t dragged knee yet and don’t plan to either

[@TKLMotoVlog]

from the car perspective owner, you are not nearly at pushing the limit. Though your TCS is blinking, you are on one drive wheel. Drifting is fun, you are barely tapping.

[@redkofarmsadventures407]

Try an SLR or SLR LE with the 305mm rear tire. I rarely have issues with TC kicking in, and can power through mountain turns in 3rd without any loss of power. I originally test drove an SL and wasn’t impressed with the traction or braking, but the SLR is well worth the upgrade for that extra bit of capability.

[@travis_8833]

It’s not a motercycle. But it’s awesome

[@lostears1]

@chase, some advice from a big car guy (drive a highly modified st180), you need to keep the slingshot between 2nd and 3rd gear. Need to get that rev matching going and continuosly shifting between 2nd and 3rd gear. I see your revs are mostly in the mid. You want to keep it between 4500-5500 rpm (think you said it maxed out at 6k). So your power not being there is because you hunting for the power in the top end. Downshifting before a corner is a big thing for cars. And turn that traction off :). You'll have far more control.of the car when its not fighting you.

[@WideLoad405]

I’m sure someone has said this but I’m not digging through your comments. There’s a saying in the autocross and track circles. “It’s more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow”. That’s why you had so much fun. Get an MX-5 or BR-Z/FR-S. Go to an autocross even or a driving clinic. You’ll see what I mean. And I’m not telling you to buy one of those cars. Just find someone who’ll let you take one around an autocross course. Huge fun. Go drifting with Motonosity some time. You’ll get it.

[@TGL_Jay]

Heel-toe shifting and also downshift from before turn and floor it through

[@bobby__custer]

When you are in a car break, turn, and when you are halfway through the corner start accelerating.

[@underdogmotomania]

That mustang though wow !!! Didn't even run through a crowd of people that being said I love mustangs and have owned 3 myself :)

[@justinbarber24]

Check out the Campagna t-rex. Like a slingshot but smaller and it has a street bike motor. Its way faster then the slingshot.

[@Wilsonite6]

For better traction and grip through turns, you want to soften your suspension. For higher top speeds and more stability at speeds, you want harder suspension

[@MarkusAndre]

Please go watch any video on how to do racing with a manual car. Your grip on the steeringwheel needs to be lower and you have to shift gears in like every turn, so that the engine is in its sweetspot all the time. I live in northern Norway where every single road is twisty and fast. If you trusted yourself and that Slingshot, and driving how you are supposed to drive when "racing" i bet you, you would have had waaaay more fun. Btw this is not hate, just tips

[@jessegutierrez5871]

What do you drive during the winter?

[@jacobgebman4666]

Downshift before going into a corner to slow, and use the extra torque of the lower gear to power out of the corner. Remember those downshift to keep within the power band!

[@Poteven]

I think the uphill VS downhill has more to do than the suspension setup, BUT, having stiffer suspension in the front will reduce the ''nosedive'' under braking and keep more power to the rear wheel

[@Cotivity]

There's this neighbor of mine that owns one of those tryke bikes (two in the rear/one front) and when he has that goofy, sad thing out I make sure to downshift as I turn the corner....On a serious note, I see these around my city and NO ONE is wearing a helmet...never knew you needed one and either do the police, I suppose.

[@sstrey174]

You dont....depends on the state..I been riding my slingshot around cops and they just smile

[@mrvwbug4423]

I would definitely watch some videos on track/autocross driving with a car, and learn how to heel/toe your downshifts (the car version of rev matching on a bike). Also the preferred hand position for performance driving in a car is at 9 and 3, or 8 and 4, not 10 and 2 (10 and 2 is what they teach in drivers ed for normal driving)

[@ThisOlGiff]

Lines and throttle are a little different in a car than on a bike, not entirely sure where the slingshot falls as far as that, I'd assume more towards car as bike lines capitalize on acceleration.

[@casey360360]

Hitting the apex like that is called the Formula line or F1 line. It's the same in a car on a track, on the street you don't have enough room most of the time without cutting lanes.

[@mrvwbug4423]

I've yet to see a slingshot properly haul ass. The lack of rear wheel traction seems to be the big issue. I also suspect the stock tires on the slingshot suck. Put on some good performance tires and you may find it has a lot more grip. The difference between an all season car tire and a high performance car tire is huge, where on a bike the difference between a sport touring tire and a super sport tire is minor. Under normal circumstances a proper 4 wheeled sports car will smoke a bike in the twisties, they can carry far more cornering speed, the bike's main advantage is quicker side to side transition and faster acceleration. As for the cornering line, it is the same, you just have less space to do it in with a car.

[@bobby__custer]

You brake, turn, and accelerate just like a bike and use heel and toe which is a way to be on the brakes and rev match to downshift easier.

[@morphman21]

Does Luke have a channel or anything so we can check him out?

[@mattrowe6394]

In the U.K if you pass your driving test in an Automatic (most cars are manual over here) then you can only drive automatics, is it not the case Chase in the U.S?

[@c0c0asauce]

Go to a driving school. You are the kind of person that needs constant direction from a good instructor to quickly grasp the concepts (no offence you looked for instructions with those zip ties.) You will be amazed how fast you can go when you aren't guessing the whole time. Suspension tip for you. If you make the front stiffer than the rear it will move some of the grip towards the rear of the car.

[@kenethdejesus8914]

Please review the mv agusta f4rr

[@AOL0321]

Chase, What road/mountain are you on outside of Atlanta? Anywhere near Dahlonega/Helen, GA?

[@tylerswensonrose544]

Outside to apex to outside is still the same in a car dropping a gear pre turn so you have the "Power band" to power out... and just be ballzy thats the best i can say.

[@321itsdone5]

Curious what happens with a passenger on both. I think it would effect the bike signifigantly but not so much the slingshot. That bike with a good rider would whoop a supercar on that road, so these results are expected. Three wheels aren't ideal for cornering. It's not all about lap times, fun factor means a lot to most people.

[@buddieboy72]

try down shifting round corners to keep u in powerband. make use of the gears.

[@brian1680]

Tail of the the dragon. 318 curves in 11 miles. We have a blast in the slingshot...

[@MikeChvarak]

A friend of mine did a bunch of suspension and engine work on his Slingshot... I struggled to keep up in turns and in straight line accel / top speed and my ktm 1190 is pretty quick in sport mode. He was still inching away from me at 165mph. His friend in a stock Slingshot could not keep up and we beat him up the mountain by almost 10 minutes. These things have tons of potential, just not much off the showroom floor.

[@SammyOnAYammi]

Very nice!!

[@julians.8685]

If you take traction control off you can do mad burn outs

[@Roy_Godiksen]

With a rear wheel drive. pump the break right before the turn and give it gas through the turn. The rear wheels will push the car through the turn.

[@acog9891]

The Slingshot seems like a cool novelty but I'd take a Ducati Monster over it without hesitation.

[@karlskipsey2964]

So the transaction issues in the long sweepers are probably because you're being overly aggressive on your turn in, you're having to do multiple turn ins on a single apex corner. As for power, it's not built to set lap records however you're not using your gear effectively also doesn't seem like your using all of the power band. Having said all that, you did pretty good for not being confident car driver/manual shift driver. kudos from the UK

[@rickjones2534]

Is that a birth mark on your right forarm it looks like a maple leaf shaped

[@jeffruebens8355]

Some of the Can Ams are a lot less expensive, and they are known for poor reliability. The Yamaha Niken should have very good reliability since it is based on the MT-09. Another major competitor is a new or used Mazda Miata/MX-5, with a roof that removes, a heater, an air conditioner and a little storage space, or the BRZ/86 with 2 small back seats. The Civic R front wheel drive is more practical where it snows in the winter and for seating 4 adults.

[@Turbotuberx3]

Looks to be a bit more show than go, betting a new MX5 (or probably an older one) would probably shred it.

[@R3CKL3SSsk8r]

Haha caught myself watching your hands a couple time and it appears to me like you’re still trying to shift and throttle with your hands 😂

[@jeremyantunes7022]

Wait did you say you don't drive a car? What about when it rains or snows?

[@marquis7902]

Jeremy Antunes 👂😑

[@SpecopsArmageddon]

Bikelife bro...

[@davidballoid2118]

First off in a car, you'll need four wheels. Secondly tighter front and rear suspension with good directional street tires a must. The problems with a slingshot is the rear end. there's not much stability on one rear tire which causes body roll and at higher speeds can cause you to roll the vehicle over completely.

[@briandeluca6908]

Have you ever driven one? It doesn't sound like but the theory is correct

[@cliff8675]

If I'm riding solo, Monster. If the wife comes along, Slingshot.

[@markszyszkiewicz]

So does this mean you will now be known as "ChaseOnThreeWheels"?

[@felixgla30]

Tip for going fast in the mountains: shifting. Don‘t just stay in third gear all the time, just shift like you would on a motorcycle

[@robertdetwieler1631]

The monster all the way, I didn’t know Dan came to visit you

[@d3e3dz77]

You have the potential to push that thing so much harder, just not confident enough.

[@ryandunne8442]

Foot to down more, lower gear, you are in to low of a rpm. And take it to a long straight and see what it can do

[@chriscraig7062]

great video, #jealous af....lol keep it up.

[@airtylerb]

Cornering is the same as a bike, out in out, brake before the apex, throttle up after, and the big key is smoothness, the more smooth you are the faster you will go. Also slingshot all the way.

[@nirmalprem4337]

Chase, could you please put the helmet cam a bit higher so people can get like a 1st person view cause, now all we can see is the steering wheel

[@luukwolf161]

You shift fairly slow, get confident with the car and just try to shift faster

[@JonnyMoto]

I want to see you drive a Subaru BRZ (MT). You want to watch a professional driver? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKKzqZmvm8ighsk here u go dude. The pro driver is in a BRZ, which costs very little compared to these other cars on this road. Expensive cars getting spanked by an inexpensive light weight sports car

[@theKPtrucker1]

10 points to Gryffindor 😂

[@2wheelz420]

10 Point to Gryffindor! for the Win!!!!

[@Gaara-man]

Slingshot's geometry does not compare to a car because a normal car has two wheels in the back and slingshot has only one, which affect it's stability in the corners. For that reason It will not perform as well as a car. That said it's a good way to enjoy twisty road.

[@psychotic_hero]

literally play what ever the newest Gran Turismo is, i think it's like... 6, or 7, it will show you how to drive like you're on a track. Also shifting faster will help a bit.

[@z20lehcorsa67]

I wanna see a gt3rs next

[@nef4ri0us68]

It's a car missing a wheel, be a car, be a motorcycle, or be nothing.

[@davidpanek7646]

I love your videos it makes me want a motorcycle so bad but I’m only 15

[@andrewdonald2812]

You should trade in the Jeep for something fun (and with 4 wheels) there are a lot of cars out there that are much quicker than the Slingshot. That thing is so slow.

[@ffdeg7882]

When your on a twisty road put your hands on 9 and 3 instead of 10 and 2

[@moneyandtimefreedom3352]

There is a reason race cars have STIFFER suspensions 👍

[@pochunks]

First take the traction control off by pushing the button then treat it as if your drift racing let that reran come around in a controlled slide you’ll have a ball once you get used to it

[@brayvdb2191]

What do you mean you're not a car driver? You drive a car.. So you're a car driver 😂

[@murderbird1733]

Dingleberg

[@1200bonzo]

I love riding my slingshot on The Tail of the Dragon.....

[@atsuensteve3843]

monster for sure

[@FreddietheFly]

I like how you say "vee-hickle"

[@vendelet]

Why no just check your speedometer?

[@DiggsGhost]

I love the slingshot but I highly doubt it. Power to weight is off, and power isn’t delivered too well lol

[@Doogleraia]

Go pro on helmet is mounted way too low for the Slingshot, on a bike it'd be fine, but can barely see over the dash with the Slingshot

[@zackphelps3052]

Mainfold I agree but doubt he is going to change it for one vehicle

[@toasty_local1424]

Your back end has less weight and with just one rear tire you have less grip. Going around these corners your back end will want to slide out. That’s most likely why traction control is kicking in

[@briandeluca6908]

It does want to kick out.. its more so a slide than a drift