Can the "upsetter" forge a hammer?

[@MauledByBears]

Your tooling development videos are your best content, imo. Thanks for showing us all your tries and mistakes, they save other smiths countless hours in the shop! I was shocked that removing the backstop improved the performance that much!

[@Lynkah]

I couldn't agree more. I'm not a handy guy, but seeing the development process is always fascinating. Trial and error in action.

[@frzamonkey]

the backstop was stopping the tool from actually moving the steel in the direction away from the wedge.

[@rustjupiter]

I love the development videos. Watching his process for producing products is fascinating.

[@overwatch2671]

Some of the most interesting videos on the net that I've seen to date. Great job Timothy

[@jjwouters6436]

Howdy, I just seen you are in the latest edition of Farm Show! That's awesome! Keep hammerin'

[@douglasfathers4848]

The best part of any job is the development process Tim , In my 45 years of as a boiler maker _ welder, 25 years wear in the development of products Best years of my life . Now I'm retired I watch videos like yours and mate you make me feel young again. So thanks mate and keep up the grate work . Cheers from Australia . ⚒👍🤠.

[@minnesotatomcat]

Bingo! I was screaming at my phone, Just get rid of that backstop cause the metal has nowhere to go! Maybe make that backstop so where it’s quickly adjustable so you can use it at the end when it’s nearly to final dimensions but leave it out of the way on the first initial squish so the billet has room to go where it’s gotta go 👍 love the tooling and R&D episodes

[@adammizell6227]

Tim, your videos always look great. You're a true artist. I gave a little shout when you upset the last blank. It goes to show that perseverance pays. What a great example. Keep it up bud!

[@VeX-hr8yr]

The time lapse of you shaping the hammer head from that long piece of rail track is brilliant 😁

[@eddyarundale1566]

👋,love the thought process on the tooling

[@1kreature]

Seems like the eye could be formed in the upsetter but that material drift with the removed back means it has to be planned out perfectly. Love the toothpaste effect on that last ingot!

[@roostercogburn5184]

Your videos are fantastic!! On par with Trent Palmer!!

[@htownblue11]

Two new shop supervisors show up just to keep Timmy in line! Love it.

[@davidwhiren817]

IT IS TIME BROTHER , we need you to post again !!! we need a new fix !!!

[@kpuff2477]

I love your tooling and process videos.

[@FarmsteadForge]

Thanks for showing your tooling process - always very interesting.

[@codykenison6581]

Love the tool development process. Your videos are amazing I am never upset. No pun intended

[@s56505]

Could punch/drill holes in your dies and plug weld the parts for the back side for more strength in the welds.

[@WoodScrape]

I Always look forward to your vids Tim

[@The_Smith]

Impressive how fast that bandsaw cuts! ;)

[@irvinhofer2021]

It's sped up... BTW

[@The_Smith]

@@irvinhofer2021 :)

[@jimrambles3968]

Enjoy seeing the process

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Always very awesome to see you work Timothy. creativity idea sir. hope it works out well for you. cant wait to see more videos an projects soon sir. keep up the great craftsmanship an hard work. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge Lit . Keep Making. God Bless.

[@kylemccullen4417]

I like heavy weight forward hammers if you are going to scrap the rejects ill take them as long as there is a good handle hole

[@DanteYewToob]

I kept thinking why not make a second “final final finisher” tool that cleans up the angles while also cleaning up the hole. One last squish to force everything into shape and alignment. But I’m no expert and that’s probably a dumb idea… lol

[@engjds]

Stick my favourite welding process, simplicity, cheap and great penetration, I would only ever use MIG for thin materials.

[@glennbayley5863]

Timothy brilliant video 📸👍

[@RyanSchmidt92]

You should add some relief notches in the upsetter tooling for the eye punch so you can grab the block with your tongs easier

[@northernironforge]

Looks awesome mate! Great work! I didn’t notice if you did it or not, but when I make cross peens I usually offset the eye in the block, and the small side becomes the cross peen end, this helps get that good center of balance. But I’m probably telling you something you already know. Keep up the good work tim!

[@The_Smith]

You are on the way to figuring it!, remember to allow for the weight of the eye, in your starting stock, and leave space for the material to move into, think of the hot iron just like water, it can't be compressed, it has to go someplace. FYI, I love the shape of the hammer with the bit on the end of the peen, looks like a whale! Constant volume is fun, just do the math and allow for loss from scale! Of course it is easy on my part to give advice from a 1000 miles away ;)

[@alexhamon9261]

Have you considered making the forming tool convex on each side of the eye so the drift operation warps the sides closer to flat?

[@antoinebleau2880]

Great video, I love seeing the iterative thought process. I just purchased a 225 ton hydraulic press with hammer making in mind! I am not familiar with your equipment, is the Upsetter hydraulic? If so, how powerful is it? You probably have a relief valve somewhere, how many PSI did you set it up?

[@Joe___R]

Once you get the setup figured out, you should be able to make the occasional titanium hammer as well.

[@AlanW]

What if you put a "mandrel" in the upsetter jig to ensure the taper is in the right place relative?

[@TheCabult]

Ok questions. Can the hammer weight differ between blanks? If so should you cut to a length then squish to length. Then put in the upseter. To get a uniform weight and size. Also you have to weld the front or the tool will not last

[@joelambert-barnett566]

Love the video, especially the tooling production ones for the learning, love the fact you show mistakes and the development from them. Like the previous commenter I was surprised but the backstop removal working so well. I do wonder however if you could have the punch on the same tooling as the cross pein tooling. That way the eye would be constant with the pein dimensions. Not sure if that would work, maybe worth a mull over? Keep up the good work! Dare I ask? Is that a Martin mark II working in the background? 😀

[@archerkn2413]

I'd say you might have been pushing that power hammer's limits (just a bit)!

[@rypht8242]

Would it be possible to have the wedge and a front and back plate (from camera viewpoint) leaving any spread to go out to the right (where you removed plate at end) and you could cut/grind just that end until you get the start and finish weight dialed in? Then for the eye, make a vertical wedge at back of the form to gauge the handle hole distance from wedged end? (Sorry for lacking terminology) 😂

[@sgtrock68]

I'm wondering why you don't put bevels where your tooling, walls/punch, welds to your base plate? Would it not be stronger using a multiple pass fillet weld? IDK, you're getting into forces I'm not familiar with. I just made highway equipment. We overcame any weakness with tons of steel, so giant welds were the only welds.

[@CaptCorpMURICA]

Moving on to next things…like .50 cal center punches?

[@blackhammerartisan]

hay Tim who is the guy in the back round of the shop.

[@strangeblacksmith]

If you're going to work without the stop, I'd flip the dies around so you can get it square easier.

[@LanceMcCarthy]

I spy, with my little eye, another blacksmith guy! Who was the dude in the background?

[@azuanatoya]

that billet in 9:00 , still good for my use. i have small hand and muscle :D

[@epicname1549]

I claiming the name.... Name the hammer... "The Upsetter". OR you can call it Whaley McWhale Hammer.

[@epicname1549]

Yeah... Again... You should name it "The Upsetter"... Make it 4 pounds... Able to upset bigger things

[@michaeldixon3562]

If you would put a bevel on your pc where it welds It will be WAY STRONGER

[@nathanhawkins4108]

What would it take to get a hold of a couple of mistake hammers? They’re still usable.

[@jeremiahcox9597]

I'd make tooling where you could actually make two hammers at once by pinching the peen area and have a hammer head come from each side. Just start with a longer piece of stock.

[@dawall3732]

Name one dog hammer and the other one tongues.

[@azuanatoya]

what kind of machine is an upsetter is actually?

[@stevenhitchcock4278]

When you make "tooling" you are making exactly what any factory can do. The "hand"forged is taken out when you do this. Congratulations, You are a factory now

[@davedoessomestuff8176]

That's ridiculous man. Every blacksmith I know makes tools and jigs to make the job easier. While I agree some people take it as far as basically drop forging, making a blanket statement like that is silly. You think we shouldn't use scroll forms/jigs because "that's what a factory does"? Imagine making 50 scrolls for a railing and doing them all by hand, tweaking them with a scrolling wrench, and trying to get them all to match. It would take ten times longer and no one would be able to afford that work. If you've ever forged a cross peen you'd know the worst part about it is forging the peen. Fish mouth and fixing it takes up so much time, and time is money. If he wants to use a tool to help him more power to him.

[@realnoplandan]

This video was very upsetting.😉

[@Lynkah]

You doing alright Tim? You sound a little sick!

[@aliagha5598]

[@michaelbrocato7535]

I am dying to know who makes the upsetter ....the brand name i need that for my shop ...does anyone in the comments what company makes the upsetter machine??????

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

Maybe The Upsetter wouldn't be so upset if you gave it (I don't know its gender) a nice-sounding French name? I dub thee The Perturber!

[@stevenhitchcock4278]

When does one stop being a blacksmith. And start becoming a local factory

[@bas17h4]

I'd just bandsaw the angles in... could pump em all out from one bar

[@Lynkah]

Lol! You wing something so hard it gets wung!

[@tiber_drake]

What a cute doggos_)

[@joshuanicolai4776]

Do you break your nose when you were younger?

[@stevedyer13]

Need to forge a Anvil to sell and stamp on it dont be a D$#k use a Dyck Anvil! Or don't Beat your D$&k Beat a Dyck Anvil need to catchy like alex Steele when he sold his anvils ,grinders and hammers even sold forges. I want a Timothy Dyck Anvil. Mabey even make a starter kit Hammer, tongs, file, ect then sell the big dogs 100 plus pound Anvil gas forge or coal forge with hand crank blower? I mean I'd rather get it from you than a place like vevore. Just a thought and making a joke. Love your content keep em coming please🙏🙏🙏

[@junit483]

So the goal is to mass produce cross pein hammers. So what makes yours better than any of the other forged carbon steel mass produced cross pien hammers that sell for $20-40 all day?

[@franksworld9922]

So, your goal is to shame another for wanting to put one of his hammers in more people's hands? The answer to your question is that he uses higher quality materials and pays better attention to qc,and is not mass produced in China. The amount of hammered he makes mor than likely is under mass production numbers by far.

[@bronchiosaurus2766]

well i get your point, but you could make that argument about anything we buy that comes from god knows where, has been made god knows how made by god whos who.

[@adammizell6227]

Quality of material and the level of quality control are going to be two big factors of the value of these hammers. Supporting someone we enjoy watching would add to that value as well. If you want a $20 hammer with $20 worth of time, effort, and materials, then buy one.

[@franksworld9922]

@adammizell6227 that is exactly what I said.

[@franksworld9922]

@bronchiosaurus2766 That is not the case in this situation, my friend.

[@Blue.4D2]

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