Can Thin Barefoot Boots Survive Snow & Ice?

Barefoot boots have all kinds of great benefits for your feet, but how do they handle winter conditions. In this video I'm testing the Vivobarefoot TRACKER WINTER II SG to their limit.
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[@StephenJReid]

10% Off yfood with "STEPHEN-KZbin" geni.us/bUAZe ❗UPDATE: I've since used the boots on a camping trip in snow. Temperatures got down to as low as -4c (24f). I was out walking in snow up to my knees at times. I wore two pairs of merino socks and with that combo my feet stayed warm most of the day & night. I was outside wearing the boots for over 12 hours. Occasionally my toes got a bit cold, but that was when I hiked up a hill and it got windy. But they didn't go numb this time. So I think wind chill plays a bit factor in the warmth of these. It seems the warmth limit (for me) is somewhere around -5C (23F) going by wind chill. That's a huge improvement over the Forest Tracker ESC, as I got cold feet in those boots when the temp went below around 5C (41F). On the day of testing my thicker pair of socks were only about 30% wool and I did sweat into them, so I think a higher wool % is essential for warmth if you tend to have sweaty feet as wool still insulates when wet. My takeaway is that these ARE winter boots but they ARE NOT mountaineering boots, which I think was always obvious. As for waterproofing, zero issues so far, I've walked through rivers, puddles etc and nothing has got in. I'll still treat them with leather conditioner for max protection.

[@spacekat8249]

Thank you!

[@LoremIpsum1970]

Very nice review, think I'll give these a try with your code on payday, thank you Stephen! What are these like in mud and have you ever heard of Mudpons (and the story behind them)?

[@LoremIpsum1970]

ps Any longterm review coming for the Paramo smock?

[@spacekat8249]

@@LoremIpsum1970 What is/are Mudpons please?

[@StephenJReid]

@@LoremIpsum1970 Made one ages ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGKlZqh5pN95gZYsi=H2TUf0BNP306xft0 Opinion hasn't changed since

[@redauwg911]

Quebec Canada here. If you have sweaty feet you will freeze here, Wear platic bags over your bare feet and one pair of light wool socks and one pair of heavy wool socks and proper insulated boots, This could save your toes from frostbite if you really do go out in the cold. All the best.

[@docmagoos78]

@@redauwg911 in NI it never gets really cold. -4C is to warm for VBLs.

[@markilleen4027]

Canadian whether isn't even bad, you get normal dry snow

[@redauwg911]

@@markilleen4027 -30c This coming Tuesday -4 today,, Would you like to come and visit and tell me about that again lol ?

[@Erik-sq8nz]

@@markilleen4027every type of snow is here in canada

[@markilleen4027]

​@ at least you get snow we just get slush that gets blown into your clothes then the temperature raises and it fully melts into your clothes making you drenched, and then the temperature drops and freezes the melted slush into your feet, all the while it's blowing you and the rain slush all over the place

[@TheCloudhopper]

It's amazing to see these conditions on the saddle and the summit, if you keep in mind that less than 3 miles away people sit on the heated terrace of a pub having lunch. Thanks for taking us up there Stephen.

[@StephenJReid]

Yeah it’s a bit mad that you can be standing in sunshine by the sea and 2hours later looks like you’re battling up Everest.

[@SheriffCartman]

I bought a pair of these this week after spotting them in your last video. I love my tracker ESC so much I bought two pairs in case they ever change or discontinue them, so was happy to add these winter versions to my wardrobe. They look much better in real life than website images. Fleece lined throughout, and protection around the lower half that the ESC was always missing. As always, they are like walking the hills in your fluffiest slippers, it makes hiking so much more enjoyable.

[@cook1e2000robturnerxG]

Its important to say "meal in a bottle" is not a healthy daily solution long term no matter what the brand. The body misses out on key nutrients found in fresh fruit and veg and natural prebiotics are a must in a healthy diet so making sure to eat a colourful and varied diet is the healthiest solution long term.

[@xperience-evolution]

Plus chewing is an important mechanism and part of our digestion

[@taytos93]

I've often wondered what it's like up there when the snow properly hits, but I know I'm not experienced (or stupid) enough to go up, it was amazing seeing the shelter on the wall looking unrecognisable!

[@StephenJReid]

It’s crazy the difference especially when it can be sunny in Newcastle at the same time

[@Killerbeetattoos]

We tried to go up here the Sunday before but had to turn back just before the saddle as we were slipping everywhere!

[@StephenJReid]

Wise! Too many people get injured in that part. A large % of mountain rescue call-outs are for there

[@Trundlebugg]

I spotted the new feet a few weeks ago and wondered if you might finally have warm feet! I got them for Xmas, haven’t really needed breaking in as I’m 98% barefoot already and didn’t feel any rub spots. So far warmer than my other barefoots and much warmer than my classic mountain boots. Very happy to see your success with micro spikes! I’m waiting on a new pair that will hopefully fit them. I needed crampons earlier in the weeks so had to go back to my mammut boots and went straight back to flipping my ankle in them 😔 pre barefoots I used to flip my ankles several times a day and live in a stake of perpetual bruise, it has only happened a handful of times in 2 years of almost exclusive barefoot use, I felt so unstable in comparison in my mammuts. Not counting the first few hundred meters of family sliding and bruised bums we seem to be at around a 50/50 crampon/mircospike usage in snowdonia as of Friday 😅 much better than usual.

[@StephenJReid]

Yeah was very happy the microspikes worked 🙂

[@matteotamberini2152]

Great channel I enjoy every video you knock out brother Brilliant personality 👌

[@twiglet2214]

Is it true that you were going to make a video about the thermal insulating properties of hiking boots but changed your mind and got cold feet ?

[@StephenJReid]

😂 🥾 🥶

[@septemberblueuk]

😂 😂

[@alanrobertson5497]

Fun video, fair play for getting out. Love watching ❤❤.

[@StephenJReid]

Thanks Alan 🙂

[@KyleJamesFrazer]

Great cinematography as usual, Stephen 👍

[@austingavins9181]

Thanks for the Video Stephen! I was on the other side of Donard 24 hours previously coming up Bloody Bridge. Myself and my dog had to turn back about 100m below the summit, 50-60 mph winds coming over the wall and I was trying to post-hole up the path from the saddle - which was somewhere under 2-3ft of snow drift - was absolutely bonkers :) After the wind unbalanced me for a 3rd time face first into a snow drift I thought that discretion is the better part of valour...... Nice to see what at least one of the summits looked like 24 hours later!

[@Jaqaroo]

That was great, Stephen! It looked exciting, challenging and a lot of fun.

[@MorewithMat]

The boots/spikes seem like a good combo! Conditions looked pretty brutal up there! 🏔

[@thomasshafe]

Looked like good fun. Amazing that the snow was as high as the wall.

[@sandyknight3910]

thanks for this. I'm about to head off for a winter trip in scotland, and footware is always my concern. Would love a video on crampons to point out the differences, benefits and drawbacks of each type, as I got very confused on which type to pick (ended up getting micro spikes so hope they will be ok) also I'm looking at merino socks, and some have different wool % and different added content spandex/cotton/ poly something, and some seem thick hiking type and others thinner... its making the choice harder, tho something tells me to vere away from anything with cotton in... Thanks or your continuing content...so worth watching as they are so informative and entertaining!!!

[@StephenJReid]

I’ve never actually used proper crampons so the wrong person to ask I’m afraid. Although I’m planning on doing a winter skills course in Scotland this year so will be using them for that. For socks I looks for ones that are at least 40% wool

[@confusedwhale]

If you want a suggestion on some socks, you can look at Darn Tough. They explain a lot about what kind of socks you want. The level of cushioning each has. The weight of each knit type, and why you might want one over the other. And they have a lifetime guarantee of the item. So, if anything happens to them, even just normal use of the item, you can get a replacement. Doesn't mean you will want to buy them, but it's still a good educational resource.

[@DanielSpiegel]

Awesome hike, looks amazing up there in the snow and ice.

[@TaylorGreene-98]

Really looking forward to seeing someone review the tundra esc

[@StephenJReid]

thought the Tundra looked like overkill for Ireland/UK, although if you had to do a lot of standing around in the cold, maybe not. Although they aren't waterproof, they are designed for dry cold

[@Rationalskeptic49]

Thanks for the review of these boots Stephen, I've been mulling over getting these as I already have the Forest Tracker ESC with similar issues. Mine is down to Raynauld syndrome, not sweaty feet. So I've had to return to my old walking boots for the winter. I am not sure if I can afford them at the moment, but I will look at getting them next winter

[@StephenJReid]

I’ve been using industrial foot antiperspirant recently to try and confirm if that’s my issue 😂

[@jsimes1]

Brrrr that looked fun! 🥶 I got my first pair of Forest Tracker ESC last week. Because I've never had barefoot boots before I used their sizing chart after measuring my little Hobbit feet. It suggested 40 even though I usually wear 42 and while the toebox and sole feel great the uppers are super tight. I contacted Vivo and the guy said well you have a 100 days to evaluate them maybe they'll stretch out. But I doubt they are gonna stretch two shoe sizes. 🙄I don't think I could put two pair of socks on with these sized boots without my feet turning blue from being strangled! 😂 Anyway I might split the difference and go for a pair of 41s! But I'm not waiting 100 days! 🤣

[@evachjourney]

Nice video! The scenery! 😮

[@Mick.quinn1984]

Another top video there Stephen. I have to admit I paused when you mentioned Raynauds and went down the rabbit hole. Never heard of the syndrome before and convinced I have it. To be fair I'm absolutely gobsmacked!!! Lol. Thanks Doc 😂

[@davidwilson-zs5xd]

very clever and funny,, seriously good

[@JCJ7754]

Still working with the Forest esc with the Noord socks and a thinner second pair underneath, working well at around zero.

[@valdius85]

Now make a video about their grip on snow, ice, and with spikes 😂❤ please 😅 Thx, good video.

[@pjos11]

Great work Stephen. My wife and I have done a few of the hikes on the Mournes but not this one. I’d probably get lost in weather like that!! 😜

[@StephenJReid]

Easily lost in that weather if you loose the wall. We nearly got completely turned around on the way down

[@Ravenblade86]

Great video as usual Stephen, that thanks for making me spend more money! Had been looking at a new pair of Vivo Primus on sale but had decided I didn't need to spend the money, now I've ended up ordering those and a Tracker AT thanks to that discount code lol

[@StephenJReid]

I take zero responsibility 🙈

[@garydubhda33144]

“ weaker sham “ is only a Ballymena thanggg , cool touch 😎

[@StephenJReid]

😁

[@Damienmcbride87]

I camped there just by the stile on the 4th.i was hoping for plenty of snow and got more than I could imagined.it will be one of the most memorable camps in the phoxx 1

[@StephenJReid]

Was that your tent I saw photos of collapsed on FB? Looked like you nearly became part of the snowdrift 🥶

[@Damienmcbride87]

@StephenJReid possibly I posted it on ni wild camping I packed up at 4am and got out of there.

[@Jeff-q4u]

I learnt a valuable lesson watching this video. You crazy! 😂

[@StephenJReid]

😂

[@Jeff-q4u]

@StephenJReid they do look like good boots though 👍😜

[@Bluemerlehikes]

I always like to wait until you have changed the video photo before I watch😂

[@Chilternwildcamper]

You are the best at frolicking. I am about to buy an action camera, which one are you using for this video? Fantastic filming

[@StephenJReid]

😁 DJI Action 5 Pro. I always colour grade afterwards so the footage looks quite different than what I get from the camera. I’ve a video coming next week shot entirely with the Insta360 Ace Pro 2

[@hazetheherd2214]

I have these same boots , I always used to get cold feet too , not anymore ! I also always used to wear 2 pair of socks but only one pair now , the darn tough winter socks , I think it is because your feet can move around more that they stay warm I love them and the Forest sec 😊

[@stigfloberghagenphotography]

Very nice 👍❄️

[@leemcilhatton7841]

Could you do a video plz on sleeping bags plz and that was a great video keep up the good work

[@easternmenace]

Perfect timing, I was looking at these as the forest trackers aren't warm enough and not waterproof. At first I thought the soles might not be grippy enough but on second thought they are fine. The forest trackers clump up with snow and lose the grip anyway and the snow in the lugs keeps my feet cold. As I've mentioned before the coldest I've used the forest trackers was -22 with wool insoles and it was fine while moving but as soon as I stopped it was damn cold, wonder how these would fair in those temps.

[@TheOpenboater]

Another great video. I suspect it might have been busier on top of Donard, you made the right choice. Did you lose one of your microspikes towards the end of the video?

[@StephenJReid]

I took one off to take the thumbnail photo and didn’t put it back on immediately

[@TadeuszCantwell]

Fun fact Ötzi the Iceman had just straw in his shoes for warmth as he walked in the Alps!

[@StephenJReid]

And look what happened to him! If only he had proper boots he might be alive today 🤪😂

[@antine1279]

​@@StephenJReid you sound like my mum 😂

[@StephenJReid]

Your mum is a wise woman 😂

[@itwasntme8770]

@@StephenJReidÖtzi was hit from behind by an arrow in his left shoulder.

[@StephenJReid]

@ I thought he died from severe bunions 😜

[@1enediyne]

I haven’t had any luck finding barefoot boots with soles grippy enough to prevent slipping in our Canadian winters. Altra Olympus boots have been great for me. The soles are almost sticky, which has been great down to -30 C.

[@docmagoos78]

I’ve found a pair of wool insoles make your feet keep warm longer. If they’re wet just switch for a second pair. Plus you get insulation from the ground. All within reason though.

[@kenttuaim3443]

Did you get them after watching red branch bushcraft?

[@docmagoos78]

@ no. Had the idea by myself.

[@Stu1972Mac]

I've found a boot without a heel brake is useless in descending in the vast majority of Scottish mountains, at least, and can't comment on other areas.

[@ciaranmuready7435]

Would you ever consider taking a group of people on a wildcamp expedition through the mournes?

[@nicolabenson1155]

I’d join that!

[@stephenmartinez6359]

Look for vibram Arctic soles on any boots you get, the grip on the ice has been phenomenal with my cheapo carhartt boots i wish i could sole swap my zamberlans with them!

[@Melerovsky]

Great content man! I am thinking about getting a pair of these. This helped a lot. Did you try the micro spikes as well? I have the standard micro spikes, not the Kahtoola nano ones. I would love to know if they work with the other ones too. Thanks a lot!!

[@Martycycleman]

Cheers Stephen, a good crack.😊

[@sarahwatts7152]

Honestly can't say I absorbed much of the video (I was packing up to move), but looking up occasionally to see the scenery was very nice

[@RH1812]

Hi Colin

[@TheDigitalFlight]

Very interesting 👌

[@IvanDP1967]

Great video as always Stephen, but I think it's the first time I'd have to disagree with you lol I've watched quite a few videos (probably including some of yours) regarding footwear, an for me personally I am just much more comfortable in a traditional boot. Even a lot of my everyday winter footwear consists of boots. I will however admit that a good pair of Merino socks can make the world of difference when it's cold.

[@rossmacrae8406]

Thanks for posting, great fun video. I too suffer from cold feet and frequently double sock with a thin base layer sock. I'm fascinated with barefoot boots but I wouldn't buy boots to use in winter that can't do some basic technical work as you never know what you are getting into - rigidity is often needed and I think they would struggle with edging. A heel is also useful on the slippery mossy stone steps that you climbed at the base of the hill. I had traditional winter boots on yesterday and in taking a shortcut through a gully, to avoid deep wind blown snow, required crampons to navigate the steeper than planned terrain - I have spikes which I'll take late/early winter season but I wouldn't have risked them pinging off. With worn boots with a few hundred miles in them, I hurt my feet when I use a stone point for a fine edge grip - I wonder what that is like with barefoot boots. Incredible that your feet stayed warm enough but would that be the same in wet snow which tends to cool feet down the most?

[@StephenJReid]

Yeah if you’re only going to have one pair of winter boots, I can see the argument for a more traditional pair for more technical terrain. I’m planning on getting a pair for Scotland as I want the option for proper crampons. But for the vast majority of the hiking I do, barefoot boots have been great. Probably would be colder in wet snow just due to how it would suck out the heat

[@philcornforth796]

Hi Stephen, I used your discount code and got myself some Vivio barefoot Forest Tracker ESC. I used them in the Pennines up at High Cup Nick at the weekend knee deep in the snow and ice. They were great! Feet warm and dry. Did you know Vivo sell thermal insoles for £10?

[@AndrewMcIntyre-u7u]

Great video Stephen. Did you lose one of your spikes in the snow on the way down Commedagh?

[@alangauld6079]

I've looked at these barefoot boots but I just find I get sore feet. I already have a pair of Merrel Moabs that have gone soft and I feel every twig and stone and get blisters in about 5 minutes wearing them. A deliberately soft boot just sounds like a nightmare. I do wear extra-wide boots to let my feet expand laterally but I like a solid sole under me. I am interested in the exospike things though, a new one on me.

[@torpedeo1]

Another great video mate can I ask for the make of the trousers please.

[@GearTutorials]

They're snow hiking trousers from decathlon. I've got the same ones. Work well for me on snowy hikes even when knee deep and have mesh vent zips down the thighs

[@nicklasfisker196]

Did you consider trying the new Tundra ESC for winter hiking?

[@BLAND_TC]

whats that front pouch harness looking thing? looks interesting and potentially useful

[@StephenJReid]

Helicon chest pack, great bit of kit for keeping things handy

[@KennyHull-p2z]

What make/model are the trousers with the integrated gators please?

[@Corcioch]

What are those pants with the built in gaiter?? please. Im a fan of Vivos so those boots really interest me. Thanks

[@milco8755]

I also want to find out what they are!

[@JORGEN-OUTDOORS]

Whats the lowest temp you'd wear these in?

[@psomars]

I got these last week and they are fast becoming my favourite pair of shoes I own. I haven't done any hiking yet but as I live in Oslo I have worn them down to -10 with a single pair of thick merino socks and deep in snow for like more than an hour shoveling snow or digging out my car. Didn't feel cold or wet once. I haven't had the need for spikes yet as they are also the most grippy once I got but I was wondering what the spikes you used are as they didn't seem to be putting a lot of pressure around your booot

[@StephenJReid]

kahtoola exospikes, linked in description.

[@jordandoyle7699]

Stephen, what are the trousers you are wearing, please? I’ve been looking for a pair of fleece lined, non salopettes with gater trousers for months and I can’t seem to find them. These seem perfect!!! Thanks.

[@thomasskinner240]

I don't know if this is common but I bought some forrest tracker esc's last week and have walked around 10miles in them so far about 3 miles today and they are literally the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn. I've never worn barefoot shoes before these and have had no aches or pains and it just feels completely natural. Maybe I haven't done long enough long distances yet but it doesn't feel like transitioning is needed. Has anyone else had the same experience? I realise this sounds a bit douschy.

[@StephenJReid]

Took me 6 months to transition but some people it’s really quick.

[@antine1279]

I had the same experience, but I wouldn't recommend it to others because I know some people get hurt

[@chrisrobinson9332]

What is the insulation grams on those boots?

[@davidf4897]

If it's " boggin'" 😂 Bonjour Stephen. Qu'est-ce que c'es le ' boggin' ?

[@StephenJReid]

c'est du caca

[@oddierocks]

Hey Stephen, 1st time commenter. Do you have a video for recommending good semi bare foot/transitioning Trail runners? Looking for for a good pair. Been wearing wide fit solomon trail running shoes for a while but they’re hard to find in my size.

[@oddierocks]

Also loving your vids, inspirational, educational and fun.

[@StephenJReid]

I’ve been running in Altras this year, they are a great place to start and have a shoe finder on the website: www.altrarunning.eu/uk/shoe-finder/

[@muskadobbit]

You can look for shoes with a drop (difference between the height of the heel and the ball) that’s somewhat lower than what you’re used to. Use them for short, slow runs for awhile, then very short intense runs, but use your older shoes for the rest of your runs. Increase the distance of each, then do that cycle again with shoes with drop that’s lower still, working your way down to zero drop. If you have any hint of Achilles or heel pain, go back to your older shoes for awhile. Be patient.

[@oddierocks]

@@StephenJReid thank you so much! Happy trails!

[@oddierocks]

@@muskadobbit great advice thank you!

[@noktuah]

What trousers are those with built in gaitor?

[@GearTutorials]

I've been wearing Freet barefoot shoes for around 7 years from grippy trail running ones to casual every day. Just got myself their winter boot (Freet Arken) and tried them in knee deep snow in -5°C this week and feet were toasty warm the entire time. Also worked with microspikes. Better yet, they're only £115. Did try vivobarefoot primus trail sg but felt the toe box wasn't roomy enough and durability was also an issue. Freet equivalent are also cheaper at £85 (Feldom or Calver model). Wish this brand was more widely known as I rate them far more than vivobarefoot.

[@StephenJReid]

Interesting looking. Might test at some point, although don’t like the colour options. Which I know shouldn’t make a difference

[@easternmenace]

I love my freet Keld and looked at the winter ones but haven't decided on those or the vivos. The vivos are not as wide but the outsole on freet, especially the keld I have, is terrible in the wet. The arken seem to have the same outsole.

[@GearTutorials]

@@StephenJReid I do agree, I wish they did some more colourful options. I've had easily over 25 pairs of their shoes (mostly for trail running, hence wearing them out and such a high number) and am happy to sing the brands praises (not sponsored by them nor a brand ambassador - sadly 😂).

[@GearTutorials]

@@easternmenace yeah the tread on the Arken did surprise me a little, can only speculate that they're trying to make it appeal to folk plodding about day to day when it's frosty rather than just for hiking. As I said though, microspikes worked well on them, so I'm not concerned (also spikes work well on the Feldom and Calver models too)

[@garysgotatent]

I,ve got freet and vivobarefoot.i prefer vivo boots for hiking a nd my freet pair for daily casual walking.i get my vivobarefoot at sportspurs for about half price.both companies make good gear.also when they're at sale price I look at altra trail runners.i love zero drop and wide toe box footwear.

[@drizztdourden2066]

Hi Stephen, Thanks for the review. Can you give me the name of the blue microspike ? And where I can find them in the web ?

[@StephenJReid]

Kahtoola EXOspikes I put it in the description 🙂

[@adventurousdavee]

Those spikes look the job , I used the other ones and found they just clump up with snow 👌. Glad you unclipped your mic before you launched your bag in , I forgot a few times before and panic moments as thought £80 was gone lol .

[@StephenJReid]

😂 been there, done that

[@adventurousdavee]

@ 😂😂

[@tomzzo]

@Stephen J Reid Hi mate great video. Unfortunately your discount code isnt working now?

[@StephenJReid]

What?! Really? Ugh I’ll check with vivo

[@andrewjohnston9115]

To be honest I'm not convinced, I can't see them being useful for kicking steps, and crampon unfriendly should be a deal breaker for anyone going out in real winter conditions. Would you tackle CMD arete, Crib Goch or Sharp Edge in marginal conditions in them, I'd say certainly not, and at £220 you're looking at something similar for B2 boots that are appropriate for C1/2 crampons, great if you've got stacks of cash, but most of us haven't.

[@StephenJReid]

Yes they are not a replacement for proper mountaineering boots, I make this point at the start. What I was doing in them is the upper end of capabilities. Winter hiking on fairly non-technical terrain in fairly shallow snow. You’ll almost never see anyone using crampons in the Mournes. Even a lot of older and experienced hikers don’t even use microspikes in the Mournes (although in places they really should)

[@markhill8218]

I was thinking the same, ive no doubt they look comfortable but they look like an old well worn pair of boots? Will stick with my Scarpa for winter walking.

[@OptimusToaster]

What part of this video did Stephen ever even slightly suggest doing any winter mountaineering in these? He made it abundantly clear these aren't replacements for mountaineering boots...

[@markhill8218]

When he put them on his feet, went for a winter Hill walk and questioned if his feet would be cold.

[@OptimusToaster]

​@ Winter hillwalking is not winter mountaineering

[@torpedeo1]

been toying with these boots for about a year now first pair what you you recommend the winter or the normal please?

[@torpedeo1]

Sorry here in NI lol

[@StephenJReid]

I will wear the the Forest Tracker ESC boots probably April to October and these over winter. I think these boots might be a bit warm in summer. If you don’t mind sweaty feet in warmer conditions then maybe these will cover you for most things. But they are fleece lined so will get warm in hot weather. But if want a more breathable option, I’d look at the Forest ESC.

[@torpedeo1]

@@StephenJReidthanks mate

[@TomChaton]

I wear zero drop running shoes, and I would transition to barefoot shoes, but they're _so_ expensive.

[@bradjones2924]

What gloves are they

[@StephenJReid]

Montane prism. Great unless you get them damp, so I had backup gloves too

[@AttilaTheDev]

Initials in snow are supposed to be yellow in a lady's handwriting. Have I thought you nothing? 😄

[@davidpoots8362]

So that's where I went wrong, crampons on my boots, not feminine hygiene products. Doh!

[@JasonHollis-hg6vg]

For me vivo barefoot are way too big. So I end up going half a size down. Don't think many people walk in them properly. You're supposed to put your ball of your foot down first. That's the whole benefit of wearing them. They strengthen your feet. By forcing you to walk correctly. Not sticking your heel into the ground.

[@perbor24]

there is no correct way of walking, you should walk how you feel like.

[@mezmerya5130]

Nice. Now do a nice kick to make a ledge, in those "boots". -10c aint cold, it's perfect for trail runners, especially on a daytrip. People wear boots in winter for other reasons - crampon compatibility, kicking ability, proper edging and insulation from ice while belaying. This is misleading and dangerous.

[@OptimusToaster]

Except it's made very clear these are not a replacement for mountaineering boots and these are about the limits of their use. So it's not misleading at all.

[@mezmerya5130]

@@OptimusToaster none of qualities i mentioned are exclusive to mountaineering boots. Just normal hiking boots.

[@OptimusToaster]

@ And none of those things were necessary on this trip

[@mezmerya5130]

@@OptimusToaster you never know. nothing going to happen in summer. in winter 1 hour stop without bivy gear and hot water may as well kill you.

[@RichardTongeman]

Be careful with those meals in bottles, they use low quality ingredients. You’d be better off with some beef jerky or something for protein.

[@andreasweber7828]

First world problem. Ignoring the fact that common winter boots and alike have thicker soles for a very silly though important reason. I had to be almost 50 yo to learn about an Irishman who did not believe the facts of how to get cold feet in 10 minutes. Plus, you must be the last person on planet earth who didn’t realise how bad the world wide operations of Nestle really are

[@carolinapopovic2129]

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