Can This Be the Alternative To Bare-Metal Foil For Your Model Car Building?Ep.198

I'm checking out a new product from Ammo MIG to see if it is a good alternative to Bare-Metal Foil.
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[@frontbum666]

I'm getting back into this hobby after about 30 years and non of these techniques existed back then. Really appreciate this 👍👍

[@truckerray7533]

Saving this video to my "saved model vehicles" here on youtube! Thanks for sharing😀👍🏻

[@knightwriter2989]

I'm an engineer but not a modeler. I love your channel because of attention to detail. Not sure I would qualify as a patron but would be willing to do so if some patrons are not top-shelf modelers.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

My Patrions are all skill levels

[@RekEighty]

Cool I can't wait to try some of this out myself. I've seen the regular MIG yellow sheets before, but this is cool they make Chrome and Aluminum. Little trip on Long Term Storage, if you have a Food Vacuum Sealer, you can seal your sheets of foil for long term so air doesn't degrade the adhesive on the sheets. Especially with Bare Metal Foil and how bad those can go after a while of exposure. Good review Luka!

[@goratgo1970]

Yes and use vac. deal to seal the storage bags for decals as well.

[@RekEighty]

@@goratgo1970 That's another good tip for using them!

[@johnhopkins6565]

@@goratgo1970 actually, you don’t need a vacuum sealer. You can put them in a regular clear plastic bag and slice the end with a hot soldering gun with a blade attachment. Works perfectly.

[@goratgo1970]

@@johnhopkins6565 Yes agreed, my post wasn't exact - I use a food sealer to melt open end of bag closed. But when I do, I have a hard flat surface same height as sealer, then when bag set to seal, push down on entire bag with clipboard to remove air. Extra flat for storage too.

[@craig8739]

Getting back in the hobby after many years off, my goal is to learn to do the trim with Bare Metal foil, but after this video I'm going straight to this product. Thanks for comparing the two.

[@stomper12000]

Luka Cee, thanks so much for sharing. I was on the fence until someone else reviewed the Ammo stuff. Seems like a better bargain for the number of sheets you get rather than the smaller sheet of Bare Metal Foil, along with the quality of the product. You've had a Bare metal sheet for 12 years; it'll deteriorate a bit more and just be a pain in the butt to use, but the Ammo foil will look better and would influence you to use more of it on projects. The bare metal foil can also be used on other things, depending on what type of finish you want; it's still relevant in our hobby, but to get 5 sheets with ammo, I'll go all in until someone comes up with something better ( who's got the balls to produce chrome trim pieces made of chromed metal with varying shines) the hobby is in good hands and we thank you for sharing your passion of the hobby.

[@bigcharliesmodelgarage296]

Cool. Price alone it's worth it. Thanks for sharing.

[@davehanson1417]

Wow! This stuff looks awesome and easier to use than BMF. Also, BMF always came with cracks in it making it difficult to find a big enough area of foil you could use without it breaking. I will absolutely be buying some of this! Thanks for covering this and putting our minds to rest on this product!

[@chrislong8134]

Luka..... no kidding I just got notified the chrome sheets are in stock. Order made. Thanx for the video and getting word out about it. God Bless Chris

[@gitrpicker]

I can't tell you how much I appreciate your videos. Thaks for sharing! After watching this one, it entered my mind to try aluminum tape. I had an old roll of 3M 2" sitting around (like you see at Lowe's), so I tried it. That stuff burnished into a real chrome look! The only disadvantage (if you can call it that) I see is that you have to be a bit more careful trimming it on the model because of its thickness. You have to take a little more care in indenting the tape around seams. I just now tried it for the first time, so I don't know how adhesion will do in the long run, but this stuff sticks to galvanized or aluminum flue pipe for years, even with that heat. You may want to try it or you may not...but it's another option.

[@gitrpicker]

I kept playing with the Aluminim tape, and it's amazing...for what it's worth. It's (a little) thick, but the shine really stnads out.

[@johnnymayo8534]

Tks! Just went to Andy's website....will be purchasing a set of these sheets.

[@FishEyedPaintWorx]

I saw this at my local hobby shop and was wondering about it. Thanks for posting this video!

[@redbarnmodelworks1115]

Thanks for sharing this L.C. Think I’m gonna need to get some of this! Thx again ~Don

[@RattleCanShenanigans]

I just picked up both the chrome and aluminum for the bench. Once Andy lists it on the site I'll grab my next set from him!

[@darrelhall9841]

Wow. Never thought to do the roll cage like that. Thanks Luka.C.

[@the0Redneck]

Thanks for the review, Just asked my local airbrush shop and they will get it in stock, can't wait cause bmf are not sold here in denmark so I have to order it from Germany

[@scaleautoguysworkbench]

I've been using Bare Metal Foil since around 1995 or so. I am very familiar how it applies and how to use it. This seems like a decent replacement and at a good price that is until you calculate the shipping cost into the equation. Even still, it comes out to just over $5.00 per sheet to ship to my zip code. I may have to give this a try before they run out of stock like the manufacturer has. Thanks for the tip!

[@davidfeinberg5599]

Awesome vid... Good to know there's a new kid in town !!!

[@michaelcooke2559]

This stuff is great. It is definitely on my shopping list. It seem like it compares well to the Molotov pens. Going to order some from Andy soon. Thanks for sharing.

[@rickzinck9326]

Nice comparison demonstration. It looks like a good product at a better price. Thanks Luka.

[@onixfieroandscalemodelworks]

I think I might order some. I have the hasegawa mirror finish foil which I haven’t tried yet. That might also be an alternative to bmf but it is more expensive. The mig foil might just be a good alternative .

[@timemachinesscalemodels]

I'm gonna have to get some now. Thanks for testing this stuff for us, Matt.

[@marcsurrarrer9043]

Thanks Luka for spending the money and trying this stuff. I have been trying out so many alternatives. I have had some luck using dollar store aluminum foil (the major brand stuff is too thick) with Micro metal foil adhesive to make something look like a panel. What is cool about using actual aluminum foil is you have a shiny side and a dull side!

[@jamestaylor5143]

Nice! Sure beats masking and breaking out the airbrush to shoot aluminum on the crush panels. Thnx for the heads up!

[@dish8690]

Cant wait to try the new foil just ordered some. Thank You

[@badge764]

Nice. Finally something that looks better and better to use.thnx

[@michaelhintzmikesminiature1812]

'm gonna have to look for some of this. Thanks for sharing

[@JHartModelworks]

grabbed some of the aluminum and chrome to try out. Sadly Andy's was out of stock. BMF has gotten too expensive, can be hard to find in stock, and it doesn't work anymore. The stuff they have been putting out the last couple years at least, is too thick, it won't cut, and it won't stick for crap. You have to hold the bmf in place with a tooth pick in one hand, while trying to cut the other. and need a third hand to hold the model or part. Definitely looking forward to trying this stuff out. Thanks for the heads up!

[@raymondblasee1048]

LUKA, that new stuff looks and works pretty good! What I'm thinking is ill use BMF for window trim and such and ill use the MIG for large panels like the stock car piece that you put it on. Yea, you get a much better deal with MIG than you do with BMF. I wonder how it holds up over time, too. I've never had any problems with BMF degrading over time because I never put my models out in the sunlight, extreme heat or cold and it doesn't yellow over the years. Thank you for this video, it was very informative

[@tabletopgarage7625]

i can confirm this aluminium works but, and its a big but ,the Chrome works on flat surfaces but is made of a different material that DOES NOT conform to curves the material reminds me of the stuff they use for christmas decorations it has a strong plastic like flexibility that when used on curves tends to pull back into its original shape causing it to lift away from curves and any small details are impossible to get it to lay in there without lifting just a heads up for everyone hope it helps

[@bigeddie1231]

cool looking stuff will be trying it

[@KarlScaleModeling]

Great video there, a nice alternative which is worth buying, true. Well done and thanks for showing this to us all 👍🏼

[@oldschool6345]

Great tip. Definitely worth checking out. Thanks for sharing

[@JoeBarbato]

Luka, that stuff looks good. Comes out to about $2.60 a sheet, Much better then $8.00 for one sheet. Good deal.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Exactly

[@FEC1968]

Looks great and another new AK product is the AK Super Chrome for airbrushing and hand painting. Maybe also worth testing ?

[@charlespalavros6952]

Awesome going to have to pickup some thanks for sharing

[@johnlanger7852]

cool will have to try that stuff out looks great

[@davebrunette6394]

Thank you! 😎

[@markjolyn94]

Great video!!

[@ronstewart9792]

Man that Mig foil looks awesome. Ron

[@russellwilliams825]

I ordered some after I saw your initial video. It looks great!

[@doozersmodels3193]

thanks for the great product update… much appreciated… build on 👍

[@traviswright456]

Definitely gonna be checking this stuff out. BMF is too fragile sometimes and too pricey. Thanks for the review.

[@cjr12171]

Building models while listening to the Iron Maiden “Killers” album!! That’s too cool. Gotta love Maiden!!

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I DO love Maiden. I bought that album behind me back in 1982.

[@cjr12171]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel my favorite! yes, I saw them live a few times. The talent in that band is second to none! Anyway, thank you for your videos!

[@robertnussberger6449]

There's paint I used called liquid mirror and it worked quite well. It's expensive but a small amount will go a long way .if spread thin it looks better. I think it looks better than the molotol pen

[@raisingarrett7763]

Did you try it over emblems or trim with ridges? I am curious how well it shows small details.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

No I didn't. Didn't think about that. I'll do an update video on that.

[@marcosfernandeznanita7150]

That looks pretty danm good bro, thanks for sharing

[@bkmodelcars]

Looks. Good

[@fubarmodelyard1392]

Looks like good stuff

[@Enigma-Sapiens]

Great video and information, thank you! I found some aluminum foil tape (3M 3311) that's one inch wide by 5 yards long by 0.10mm or .004" thick. It cost $2.95 per roll on Amazon. It seems to work ok for me.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

That's cool. But I don't like that stuff. Too thick and sticky.

[@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835]

Yup. Cool. Not too sure about the the thickness for what I want to do, but hey - just guess I'll go buy and try... Great video review 👍

[@UncleStevie8er]

Would like to see this stuff on an airplane to see how well the rivets and panel lines show through.

[@robertjutson4640]

I hate doing bmf. My last batch leaves a residue, so I have to premask the trim to be foiled to avoid the residue cleanup. I like airbrushing Molotow. It’s also good for hand brushing small details and doesn’t need a black base.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I have never had that residue problem. But I do lean towards the Molotow as you do.

[@lysdexicsoftheworlduntie1881]

Awesome info! I've been looking for a decent BMF alternative for a minute now. I've always had good luck with it in the past, but I am definitely NOT a fan of their "New and Improved" foil. I tried foil tape, but found it too thick and unforgiving. I'm going to pick some of this stuff up just as soon as I can get back to modeling. Right now all my efforts and extra funds are going into honey do home improvements lol.

[@davez3838]

Looking good so far 😎

[@scottmccloud9029]

Which of the two would you use for mirrors?

[@markjolyn94]

This stuff is amazing! But I shouldn't be surprised since it's from Mig. But between this and Molotow my chrome is done!! Now,who has good gold foil

[@stevenbongiorno9277]

I like it! Gotta get me some!

[@richiek6379]

Looks like great stuff to try out.

[@michaelreed9733]

Am wondering if you could actually polish it with some aluminum polish to make it shine more if you would like since you mentioned it's actual aluminum

[@larrydelaruelle5778]

Can't beat the price and it passes your test. Guess I'll have to get some. Thanks for the review.

[@larrydelaruelle5778]

BTW, I checked Andy's and could not find it. Is it out of stock or did I just use the wrong search parameters?

[@scooterdoughmas3012]

rex did a vid on painting molotov w/airbrush must see someone comented 99% iso looked great

[@garyparker2969]

Hhhmm🤔🤔,,,, Thanks For The Review L C, I'll Keep It In Mind. God Bless All 👍👍, Gary.

[@kudukilla]

I’m getting ready to do my first car soon (have just done aircraft since returning to the hobby). So I watched the old video yo mentioned just 2 days ago.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Thank you for watching

[@jimmymikecallahan8488]

Tried Andy subs for the foil packs and was nowhere to be seen on his site. Anyone else offering this for purchase? Great video!

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Click here. They are very popular so they are sold out right now. But he will get more. You can request an e mail when they come available, on the site. andyshhq.com/products/copy-of-ammo-masking-sheets-1mm-grid

[@alancyr3100]

Looks like for the price and amount you get you'd be more willing to use it for masking paint. I always used to save my bare metal foil just to do bright work. My bare metal foil sheet looks alot like yours, still has quite a bit on it and all cracked. Thanks for the demonstrative review.

[@vacustoms]

Finally there's another product. Not liking the BMF these days. I'm buying some of this to try it out.

[@algray1195]

I’ve been trying different things to simulate BMF that doesn’t cost as much. I need to find some.

[@davidwillis3913]

Gotta try this, around here 1 sheet of bmf is about the same price as five sheets of this

[@deakonschlicker3700]

Honestly not bad I think I'm going to buy some

[@blownmouse]

Went straight to Andy's website after watching this video to order a couple packs. It's not on his website so how do we order it from him?

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I believe they are out right now. They will get restocked soon.

[@bruceh1300]

I'd like to try it, do you have a link to order it from your hobby shop?

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

andyshhq.com

[@tonyhughes3072]

Where did you get those sheets

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

👍👍👍

[@bobisbell1837]

way more bang for your buck. being thicker might be an issue in some situations. looks good tho. ty Luca

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

That's what I thought at first. But I don't think so.

[@bobisbell1837]

I'll grab a pack from Andy.

[@erics3424]

Hmmm. Can't find the stuff anywhere, even on Andy's website. Hope this stuff comes out soon though. I have plenty of projects that could use it.

[@erics3424]

Okay, I found it. lol 😆 If you do a search for it do not use the work "masking".

[@arthurmacon4319]

I was interested until the shipping cost drove up the price by double. I'll check at my local hobby store before spending $26.00. BTW I received an order from BMF last week after ordering direct from his website.

[@ghrobbs]

Awesome!! Can't wait to see how it forms around door handles & call outs. Quick question while it's fresh on my mind. What do you consider to be the Holy Grail of model kits?

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

For me? All of the MPC 70s Pro Stock kits. I have 5 of them.

[@deenjoan9938]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel Wow now that's a question you should use that on the other channel with BG , Luka what's it called 2 guys and a model are something like that lol

[@chucktaylor2772]

Awesome looking, multiple sheets in a package and looks like anyone smarter than the average bear can work it. The manufacturer does not have it listed on its homepage . You are a lucky feller

[@tracybales7036]

So tell us..... Where do we get it from!!!Searched Andy's website and didn't see it.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

He's out right now. More is on the way.

[@deenjoan9938]

Well I can say for $13 I would try it out but as far as bear metal foil goes I am not a big fan of that product kind of mess a few body's up doing that I do like the Molotov pens a lot , but the problem is I really don't have a hobby shop around here but I can order from Andy' and being its from one coast to the others they are really fast too guess I will put an order in thanks for the video

[@johnhopkins6565]

Have you ever tried HVAC sealing tape?

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Yes. That's why I use this product.

[@PatrickKend]

Hasegawa actually makes something like BMF but the Hasegawa is stretchy and I like it better. Just my 2 cents worth

[@kevinjachim2378]

i been using aluminum muffler tape for decades.

[@chrislong8134]

Andy's website says sold out on both

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

They will get restocked

[@timrobison2647]

wow😯

[@zepkaswar]

I bought it with high hopes out of utter frustration over what has become of BMF. Unfortunately, my experience is that it is too thick which might not be bad for certain types of chrome appearance on 50s and 60s cars. But it is difficult to cut through with any degree of accuracy. Then when I try to remove small pieces of excess it sticks too much causing the blade to scratch the plastic. Maybe you all have had better luck. Would much love to know if the so called improved BMF is really improved without investing anymore $ before I find out. Would love to know if anyone has used the "improved" BMF.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Did you get the Aluminum or Chrome?

[@craigwest8386]

Did you ever peel the aluminum foil off a chewing gum wrapper? It was "bare metal foil" long before it's namesake. If you were a really old modeler like me, you would know this.

[@moodyrick8503]

Well, we know you like it better than BMF, but what about Molotow? Is it better than Molotow in your opinion?

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I did state it a couple of times that I do prefer in most occasions. The Moltow.

[@moodyrick8503]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel Sorry, I must have missed your statement of situational preference. But which one "in your opinion", looks more like _actual chrome,_ the "new stuff", or Molotow. (specifically)

[@johnhopkins6565]

Go to Lowes and get a roll of foil tape for sealing ac duct junctions. Cheapest source of bare metal foil you will find.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Naw. That stuff is way too thick. This is totally different.

[@frankmilavec3063]

Just went to Andys and his web site can find it. Bummer

[@frankmilavec3063]

Sorry, meant to say his website cant find it. My bad

[@Dinglezz]

Stuff looks like sheet of regular foil tape.

[@johnperson3377]

Too sticky, your paint better be on perfectly, and even than this stuff will pull your paint off when removing the cutoff, just sayin….l

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I haven't had that issue. I did a video on putting this on. Look it up. No issues at all. I love this stuff.

[@samuelvasquez8170]

I tried it but would not stick. Waste f money

[@PontiacBanker]

Which one did you try that wouldn’t stick?

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

What I have sticks quite well

[@samuelvasquez8170]

@@PontiacBanker The Ak. But I did not try small pieces. I tried to do the whole back window. Next time I will try just small sections and see how that goes.