Can This EV Hypercar Deliver on its Promises?

We have been tough on certain supercars in the past. New Hypercars often promise INSANE performance, let's see if the Raesr Tachyon can follow through. This EV has many things going for it, but we have some questions.
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[@RAESR]

Hey Nolan- team RAESR to help clarify some of the questions about the Tachyon Speed prototype’s powertrain. As far as the horsepower claim discrepancies listed online, it comes down to the two different battery voltages we have used on the prototype. Our original Gen1.1 battery pack was over 700 volts. At that voltage, each motor could deliver slightly more than 200kw each (268hp), which adds up to just over 1600hp. After the initial press releases (listing the 1600hp number), we decided to go with a lower voltage pack because the higher voltage battery pack was quite large and didn’t allow any space for a rear passenger (something we decided was important so that the driver could share the extreme driving experience) For this reason, we decided to make a Gen1.2 pack rated at about 530volts, leading to a lower (1250ish) maximum power level for the motors (volts x amps determines the power). As far as the high torque number, the quoted amount is our motor torque. As long as the battery pack is able to provide a discharge of 2700 amps, the motors will deliver 800nm each. The motors are direct drive with no reduction, so that is the torque you “feel” at the wheels. Wheel torque is what really matters, and we are planning on much higher rpm motors for our Gen2 powertrain as well as gear reduction (multiplying the motor torque) so that wheel torque is at least double that of the Tachyon Speed prototype. The prototype is currently at the Petersen Museum in LA if anyone would like to see it in person as part of their “Hypercar” exhibit, maybe when it returns we can give y’all a ride! Thank you for taking the time to make this video, we appreciated your detailed breakdown and your support!

[@fire90h2]

is the car coming to forza horizon 5 too??

[@chriskhoury9839]

@@fire90h2 it’s in Forza Horizon 5 :)

[@dallas_barr]

@@fire90h2 It was a reward a few weeks ago as part of the seasonal challenges.

[@shahan484]

respect ++

[@charlielima1985]

Also, confirmation of pronunciation. Raesr = “Racer” or “Razor”

[@abdulgill5013]

Imagine carrying around a steering wheel of that car in Walmart just for other people to realize it's actually a key for a car.

[@smallbutdeadly931]

Can't steal the car if you can't steer the car

[@javierortiz82]

I hated digging my Wii Wheel out of a box every time I wanted to play, no imagine needing a backpack to carry your wheel wherever you go.

[@TNirbhay]

Imagine seeing an ex's car and breaking its window instead of scratching it.

[@MrRickChase]

'How about that sparco steering wheel?'

[@derrickstorm6976]

Imagine thinking you're going to a Walmart in a multimillion supercar

[@JordanReedYT]

Supercar Blondie ALWAYS is the ONLY PERSON to drive vapor-vehicles. She doesn’t even discuss actual car shit !

[@Matty.Hill_87]

She's the worst automotive KZbin out there, she'll say anything for the right price

[@shidfard]

What do you expect from a woman pulling in desperate men as viewers?

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

@@Matty.Hill_87 it's hard to disagree

[@sadmanh0]

@@Matty.Hill_87 she's not even automotive reviewer, just shows gimmicks in fancy cars

[@Ghostface944]

She basically knows how to read the fking brochure and that’s about it…..

[@vinnycent007]

EV hypercars are starting to look like concept future cars in the 90s. Happy to be alive right now.

[@aidaaliten8817]

I agree with the second sentence

[@wyattmunger5529]

Lame as fuck.

[@JC_Fuh_KC]

I'll be happy when they are affordable lol

[@tommasol9701]

Do you have the money to buy them or are you happy to be alive because you can see a car on a screen?

[@kami_dred7319]

@@tommasol9701 thats how it used to be with gas powered cars. Only the rich could afford them at first.

[@downwithtrudeau]

We need a "wheel torque is real torque" shirt

[@S85B50Engine]

Doesn't mean much when you take into account gearboxes

[@beanapprentice1687]

This car doesn’t have a gearbox. The motors directly drive the wheels. So in this car’s case, the motor torque IS the wheel torque.

[@jackpecora3668]

@@beanapprentice1687 Very close, but not exactly. Still have drivetrain loss to be accounted for. On a hub dyno, it would be close, but with wheels and tires, brakes and all rotational mass it is still not an exact figure.

[@yungboicontigo9278]

Some bot called “Light” with a check mark stole your comment and rn its next to your comment. Say something to that stupid bot

[@damarfadlan9251]

@@S85B50Engine yes. Gearboxes should be a key piece...

[@shred1894]

I have no trouble believing the torque claims. Automotive electric motors generally have ridiculous torque numbers for their size/weight. And the horsepower discrepancy could be a special mode that runs higher voltage/amps through the motors at the cost of battery life/wear and tear.

[@damarfadlan9251]

Hi shred1984. Sexy lesbian bots are everywhere it seems.

[@dbclass4075]

Electric motors in general. They are necessity for freight locomotives due to the sheer amount of torque required.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@dbclass4075 yes. I bet these cars require sheer amount of control to do so.

[@dbclass4075]

@@purwantiallan5089 Henceforth the introduction of traction control, long before EVs were a thing.

[@devlintaylor9520]

@@dbclass4075 whats the point of 4000 torque when traction control is constantly on and limiting it to 800?

[@joeschmoe5009]

Ahhhh yes, the convenient steering wheel key fob to easily fit in my pocket

[@Shiroi-Kuro]

💀💀💀

[@qflight9851]

You clearly don’t ride motorcycles.

[@joeschmoe5009]

@@qflight9851 what does that have to do with anyrhing?

[@qflight9851]

@@joeschmoe5009 You get used to carrying your helmet around with you.:.

[@wolfgang_h3t]

@@qflight9851 I've only ever seen people leave their helmet on the bike's handles lol

[@User-th6yy]

Drove it around for about half an hour, slow compared to my other cars i owned... At least in Forza Horizon 5

[@parrotyee]

Did you upgrade or tune them?

[@User-th6yy]

@@parrotyee tuned every car i owned, even thr 3 wheeler or the mercedes trucks I found it weirdly slow giving its power and weight, it should've performed way better than other cars. I know it's just a game but still bothered me a bit. However, i couldn't engine swap the f50gt or other timeless classics, not to mention changing the aspiration method. Still a good game imo

[@ChaosqueenMaddy]

I checked and it has a 0-60 slower than most mid level supercars

[@beanapprentice1687]

It handles really well though in that game. In FH4 however, it’s slow AND handles poorly because you can barely increase the downforce.

[@damarfadlan9251]

@@parrotyee for me both. Thats how racing games went.

[@joshmnky]

Since we have a motor for each wheel now, we need rims that pop out and turn into propellers.

[@Derekzparty]

Don't give Elon any ideas ... nvm he just put rocket thrusters in the wheels

[@walterwhiteracer7336]

imagine lol

[@jahimuddin2306]

Spinner wheels taken to the next level.

[@Shiroi-Kuro]

@@jahimuddin2306 *stonks*

[@arcticfoam5480]

I’ve come to really look forward to donut videos and the podcast throughout the week, especially wheelhouse. Keep up the great work Nolan and everyone at team Donut

[@jeffhendrix2166]

It honestly blows my mind every time that I watch a donut video that all this is free. They could make an app based video channel and I’d pay for it.

[@yungboicontigo9278]

@@jeffhendrix2166 hell no KZbin is better. If it’s an app then it would fail especially if you have to pay for it

[@jeffhendrix2166]

Oh I wasn’t suggesting they make an app based video system and charge for it, I was only saying that IF they did then I’d pay for it.

[@damarfadlan9251]

@@jeffhendrix2166 happy new year 2022 Jeff Hendrix. Sorry late.

[@damarfadlan9251]

@@yungboicontigo9278 pay like 2000000 dollars.

[@kellum0486]

Gotta do a shirt with Nolen’s head saying “The Answer’s More Complicated Than You Think”

[@BassistUndStolzDrauf]

regarding the fact that a current gen Formula E car already delivers up to 4000Nm (or ~3000 freedom torques) from a single motor unit the torque values really don't seem very unachievable. Still doesn't mean that the car will actually be fast

[@nabeelsajid5423]

"last night i went to a mastodon show" MY MAN

[@Donut]

It was the one of the best sets I've ever seen. They played The Czar!

[@biggusdickus6537]

@@Donut Nolan, do you listen to Animals as Leaders? gotta know

[@WhatAboutRC]

Honestly the fact they had Supercar Blondie come review the car makes it seem more like a hype scam than the numbers do. She has been one of the things all those scam car companies have had in common.

[@martingazdag7570]

Maaaan i can't stand her.

[@chartreux1532]

Rimac is probably the ONLY electric Hypercar/Sportscar that people were skeptical about at first but now is the only one to take 100% seriously The fact that Volkswagen Group now basically made Rimac and Bugatti merge into one brand shows that Rimac is serious and ahead when it comes to electric Sportscars & Battery Technology. Bugatti and Rimac now being together also means that all the Technology and experience under the VAG Umbrella will be shared. Now imagine Cars that will come out from the Volkswagen Umbrella: Lamborghini, Audi, Bugatti & Rimac, Porsche etc. I can't wait for the results of that Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps

[@wyattmunger5529]

Honestly, if Hammond had never crashed the Rimac, we still probably wouldn't have cared.

[@gnomche]

The thing is... Porsche was more than 80 mil€ deep in Rimac before Hamster took it to hill climb. His misshap made average Joe more aware of Rimac, for sure, but in no way has pave its sucsess.

[@awesomeferret]

You forgot about Polestar, dude.

[@gnomche]

@@awesomeferret he said hypercar/sportscar. I dont think polestar is that.

[@awesomeferret]

@@gnomche not a hyper car, sure, but Polestars beats most sports cars in performance (because electric and torque).

[@concernedcitizen2766]

Think about it, Daimler was once a small shop in Germany that built the first car, so yeah, the RAESR thing can be real.

[@concernedcitizen2766]

@Aryan A yeah but still though, think about it. Look at Tesla, Rivian, Rimac, Lucid. All of them started (relatively) small.

[@rezhaadriantanuharja3389]

Back when the industry was nonexistent and not in current inelastic state

[@markusgeimer3099]

BTW torque vectoring isn't that hard... Especially with electric motors... You just use the ABS sensor for wheel speed and apply power accordingly

[@Mechagnostic]

For 4 electric drives, you could damn near do it with a decent drone controller , an arduino, and a 4 channel EV inverter. 🤔 They do sense pitch, yaw, and roll. It's just how you tell th to respond.

[@dan3458]

Lmao. Isn't that hard because you know the very very basic overview of how it works. I'm sure you could knock out a torque vectoring system for them in an afternoon right 😂

[@opossom1968]

I think EVs will actually bring the internal combustion engine into the enthusiast clubs, like the combustion engine did to the horse. People claimed at the time, it would be the end of the horse, so far many millions of people still own and ride horses, thousands more even still farm with them. So the EV will actually save the internal combustion engine for all time.

[@johnmccrossan9376]

That's an interesting and unique take on it but I don't think itl play out like that. To get a horse all you need is a friend with a pregnant horse but to get and maintain an ice you need a vast support network that just doesn't exist unless you have a widespread use of the technology or insanely deep pockets. The fueling isn't as much of an issue with lng or ethanol or hydrogen if we ever figure that out but the appeal for the ultra rich, aka the only ones who could afford to keep these beautiful machines running just isn't there in the same way as it is with horses

[@john2g1]

@@johnmccrossan9376 Everything you said it's correct but I think you failed to understand just how rich the super rich are. Case in point Ted Turner he's not even remotely close to being super rich and yet he was able to retire from his job to go be a buffalo farmer!?! A nearly extinct animal that no longer has (had) a market for purchase. To continue to stack on to that insanity he opened up Nationwide restaurant chain and still had enough money to almost buy the entire state of Montana. By almost I mean he didn't have enough money to bribe all the people to allow him to buy the entire state of Montana. If one guy who's not even super rich could pull that off you don't think that some Uber rich friends can get together and maintain an ICE network? Cuba has been sanctioned into being dirt poor and they still maintain their ice Network from over 70 years ago without any support.

[@johnmccrossan9376]

@@john2g1 I don't contest that the super rich could do this if they wanted to as far as I'm concerned it's just a question of will. With horses Its more understandable because they've been symbols of wealth for Mellenia and they have lots of fancy grooming and leather and stuff but the appeal for a mechanical machine just doesn't seem as strong for people obsessed with status. Consider that horse riding is traditionally a leisure activity, trotting through big country estates or gardens and smelling the flowers. It's something well suited for old fancy people is what I'm saying. Now I don't doubt that there's a few super rich out there with the admiration for ICEs to keep a handful of them going, but if there's maybe 20 if them in the world (probably not allowed on the public road eventually) can that really count as preserving them more so than if they were simply props in a measuem? As far as Cuba goes they have a few advantages, 1 the international production machine keeps car parts acessable to ordinary people, 2 they're working primarily with mu h older models that can be easily worked on and 3 it's more economical to keep the cars they have going so they have that incentive. Theres also the fact that the carribean climate helps to prevent rust to a degree but this isn't a problem exclusive to ICEs so not as relevant.

[@Starfighter-nk4mo]

Exactly. I love gas cars. But we are running out of oil, and global warming is real. If 95% of the population who doesn’t care about cars switches to EV’s, my great great grand kid might still be able to enjoy V8’s.

[@bolt5564]

So long as gasoline cars are not completely banned I think that will be true. However if gasoline cars are completely banned in most countries, then there will be no new gasoline cars ever made, and within a couple decades old gas cars will become extremely expensive such the only the rich may experience them.

[@markrounds6302]

I think if you get the tour, that it needs to be a B2B episode in the format of the original episodes where you actually did walkthroughs of the car. Would be a sweet episode.

[@Donut]

I'd really like to bring that format back, fingers crossed!

[@AyaxRo]

@@Donut why did the format change? Pandemic?...... B2B now is not really B2B in the spirit of the "real" format. Still good content, just not B2B

[@TimHunold]

As a resident of Southern California I can tell you I've seen it rolling around on the road a few times in Sherman Oaks as well as at supercar Sunday

[@jasonG72]

The fact he went to a Mastodon show is the best part of this video. I wanna talk metal and cars with Nolan. 🤘

[@mitchellsnider4198]

Nolan, you've got a handle on this one, I buy it too. Torque vectoring is dead easy when you have motors dedicated to each wheel like this thing and a lot of other EVs by the way. Simple software solution only. Much more complex when you need to use brake bias or a fancy planetary gearsets + clutch packs setup like ZF has done.

[@rfldss89]

That harmony at the end of the merch ad tickles my brain in the best way possible every time i hear it

[@armbristersgarage]

Happy new year donut. 🤙🏎

[@sunny-sq6ci]

theres been one nagging concern that many haven't pointed out with the ev's: the whine from the motors. i get that its a game, but in fh5, all the ev cars emit such a high pitch tone, that i temporarily develop tinnitus. i wonder if they really sound like it in real life.

[@drakeperry.]

Try turning your volume down a bit

[@robertcatuara5118]

Really? I hear them all the time. EV whine is unmistakable.

[@ok0_0]

I live in a city with tons of EVs and they all have a light whine like that, it gets the faster it goes. They're kind of silent if they're going slow though.

[@GraceTheTDI]

@@ok0_0 except for that one electric mini suv from kia, those fuckers are pretty loud and can get annoying after a while source: multiple of my neighbors have them

[@ComfortableFetus]

They sell EVs by saying how quiet they are and all i hear is an F1 car pitched up 4 octaves

[@equieh]

I love that you used the Forza Horizon 4's picture on your Thumbnail.

[@SteeveohRising]

Another great vid guys. Lots of sound logic. Definitely a story to follow up on! Will be watching.

[@JamesDOConnor1916]

Happy new year nolan another great video sir, you and team keep up the great work man 😀👍

[@diddy2612]

I like how that one KZbinr got all pissed about his lykan vid, when nothing he said was wrong about that car

[@CosineHyperbolic]

I mean the car has more than one motor per wheel, so if it's capable of turning freely [without any "binding"/resistance from the motors trying to spin at identical speeds], then it's basically already using torque vectoring, lol. Actual torque vectoring is a huge feat of engineering for something with a single power source splitting outputs to multiple wheels, but for vehicles with a power source at each wheel...it's implied, and just adds fluff to the car's resume.

[@beanapprentice1687]

True

[@sunrisedwn2146]

You guys always post just in time for my lunch! Y'all the best

[@onlybands321]

I got to sit in this car over a year ago when I was working for ROKiT. It was pretty cool and working at the time. Looking forward to seeing it progress!

[@rolfstuh]

Il stay with the rimac nevara. Thats a real freaking fast car

[@dc6521]

Nolan be like "electric good pls trust me"

[@wildhorses4x4]

trusssss

[@nim1839]

I remember I had seen a profile on Instagram from someone that worked on this car . It really looked like they where trying more to make it look cool than being cool while using what is already widely available. There where many posts about speed test like the promo in the desert but never showed any speed. Just nice pictures . They where really focused on making the seating and doors work and look cool.

[@jamessizemore7103]

Happy new year d-holes

[@DeStraatz]

CFD; also known as colours for directors All jokes aside, a great engine can approximate the airflow very accurately. So it's an invaluable tool.

[@JSwatchesthings]

I think I've figured it out... I watch these videos the minute they drop, and then it feels like a muuuch longer amount of time between videos. I need to learn to delay my gratification and to understand you guys have lives outside of making videos for my entertainment and just might want to enjoy the holidays without someone like myself begging for more content. That being said, Happy Holidays (belated) and Happy New Year, guys!

[@NobodyCaresLI]

You my friend will save humanity

[@CamoKKing]

Just do what i do... rewatch old videos.. im currently rewatching the 350z hi low series

[@purplesectorracing]

Six. Million. Subs. Great job guys!

[@StormRoxas]

Gonna casually not mention that they've hit 6 million ! Woo ! Great start to 2022

[@n0pic325]

Torque Vectoring is pretty "easy" with motors in each wheel btw. You can just controll each inverter different which with a good Matlab Model is pretty simple but hard to refine.

[@grounddodger3212]

yeh the torque vectoring shouldn't be hard, we essentially do that with fpv drones; it's how they fly and the guys programming are doing it opensource. If it's got motors on each wheel, a simple feedback loop with gyros and accelerometers and some coding and it's not hard to imagine.

[@anzezibert4749]

Great video! Have yall though about doing a video on the interesting tech on the rimac nevera?

[@thomasrustin9955]

Also an avid lover of Mastadon. Have 4 vinyl records, a dozen shirts, and a beer stein from them. Much love, Nolan! And Donut😘😘

[@S85B50Engine]

Computational fluid dynamics are not a replacement for wind tunnel testing, but it lets them get close to finalizing it and then fine tuning in the wind tunnel.

[@rmg8729]

1600 HP is achieved with E85 while the 1250 HP is achieved with regular gas, hope it helps

[@bocahdongo7769]

And 0 HP with kerosene

[@OmegaF77]

@@bocahdongo7769 +500 HP from red paint and stickers.

[@alexjohnson8850]

A 2022 Ram 3500 optioned correctly has 1,075 lb-ft of torque btw. 2021 is the 1,000 figure. Ford beat Ram for the 21MY, so Ram changed and tweaked a few things to be the King of Torque again.

[@user-zd5lz7su9t]

Thank you! I was annoyed when they got that wrong

[@nordic5490]

The 3500 torque to weight isnt that impressive. >3000kgs !

[@shivamgalkhe3887]

Congratulations for featuring on mkbhds channel 👏👏🎉🎉🎉

[@steveczawiak3128]

1:43, that turning circle though. 🤣🤣

[@maraskotska8445]

Pls do a up to speed on the inline engine and or the v configuration

[@nikolai5348]

Nolan is my favorite person from donut

[@francisgabagat2291]

Thumbs up on good videos and being a metalhead!

[@Bwoah420]

I think they got it goin for em! Im hyped to see this thing get made!

[@pabloquijadasalazar7507]

Wouldn’t it be *easier* for a small company to make a super car? Seems easier than building a sedan to compete with the Hondas and Toyotas.

[@thephranc]

Werent all supercar builders small shops at their start.... or made tractors. John Deere or Kubota may be next

[@scuckplexity]

Yeah. They aren't mass produced

[@mikochamp8848]

The answer for people in hurry: No, no it can't.

[@OmegaF77]

Then you haven't watched the video.

[@thinkwastaken]

Dang, cant beleve I missed this video. Glad MKBHD linked you guys in his latist video.

[@SandsSpades]

keep following this, I imagine the next stories will be amazing

[@georgeppdo7056]

why dont you do a video like this on sp automotives's prototype car ''chaos'' with a 4litre v10 with a claimed 3000hp and a 500+kph top speed

[@speedracer2please]

Lol Forza needs to focus less on fictional (for now) supercars and more on including obtainable, fun cars like the Mazda3 Turbo. Great video though and I look forward to seeing what Raesr do!

[@ReginaldAnteel]

Facts

[@wumbology72]

Its funny how many people I see say this and they respond by adding 5 new supercars. Supercars are what the casual crowd cares about and will always be the focus in a game like horizon.

[@jamiahmt1349]

Right, can I even ride a kia stinger yet? Lol

[@wumbology72]

@@jamiahmt1349 horizon 4 had one so I'm certain it will be added to horizon 5 as an update

[@Zephyr_-wk2qi]

I would love to see an xj jeep or a 2013 camaro zl1 even any of the previous forza cars that are no longer in the game

[@daedalus1279]

Hell yeah Mastodon shoutout! Seen them twice and they put on such a good show

[@GiannisZax]

I would love to see the guys at Donut analyse the concept (because they haven't produced one yet) of the "SP Automotive Chaos".

[@CrqzyLeg1t]

Please create an video about CHAOS Hypercar ! Please !

[@vortifyne]

The thumbnail is from Forza!

[@BigGroupHug]

Real numbers, math, research. Thank you Dolan

[@adamhannaford9164]

Love the Mastodon hangover!

[@martinflores1743]

How would four electric motors in the rear work? Genuinely interested on how they would lay it out and make it work

[@fuzzcopter467]

I think they mount them to one common shaft, kind like pistons to a crankshaft

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

Two per wheel

[@beanapprentice1687]

Two per wheel, and each pair of motors have their rotors are connected together to make one longer rotor, which is directly coupled to a rear wheel.

[@YaBoyoplo]

Super car blondie… aka miss “ I can read the brochure “

[@broggie123]

Hate to say it I still watch her videos... for the cars. She's terrible "come here guys they've got this cool new design to the head lights" wow thanks 👏

[@YaBoyoplo]

@@broggie123 shame we have to listen to her little mincy voice .. if she did videos without her talking utter shit Id actually watch it

[@Fc-cb3tn]

1:36 that’s the kiss of death for the car and the brand.

[@jaimebernardovg]

Cars and mastodon! Nolan is such a well versed person. I'd love to see more of Misha Mansoor and his cars in the channel

[@kapoioskwstakhs]

I can wait to hear Donuts opinion on CHAOS by Spyros Panopoulos a.k.a. The FIRST Greek car, a true hypercar

[@hugo-pg5tv]

Will be the devel 16 2.0

[@user-ge3yx4qt5b]

Could you please check out the Chaos "ultracar". It's a Greek hypercar that claims some outrageous capabilities.

[@Donut]

👀

[@tmkskilled1]

@@Donut can we get a Hyundai Up To Speed?

[@SimplyTakuma]

@@Donut Yes, Spyros Panopoulos (manufacture) Chaos (Car name) should reach 3000hp with a twin turbo 4 Liter V10 engine that revs up about 12.000rpm.

[@JoesPhenomenal]

I Just picked up my Tesla Model 3 last week. All I can say is OMG. Soo.. Much... Accelleration! Love it, and super fun to drive, too. Can't wait to see what's coming in the future with these.

[@spencerforman4668]

I had a quick chat with one of the engineers at Supercar Sunday event at Pierce college a couple months ago. I was told the motors are Yasa 750s

[@shawnblake5897]

"Wheel torque is real torque" That should be a T-shirt 😏

[@mattliesch7047]

7:32 EV has direct drive. 8:10 EV has a ratio. The statement that everyone uses of electric cars not needing/having transmissions is not really true. Even everyone's fav the Tesla, has what is essentially a single speed transmission. Also, at 7:05 torque numbers are HIGHER at the wheels as a result of the torque multiplied by gears (not lower) and hp (ignoring parasitic losses) would be the same at the wheels as the crank. HP=(TQ*RPM)/5252. So, HP=((4*TQ)*(RPM/4)/5252. The 4 in this scenario would be a simple 4:1 gear box where the 4's cancel out in the equation yielding the same as the crank hp. (Again, this is assuming there are no parasitic losses. In short the torque portion at 7:05 is wrong, but the hp is fundamentally correct. Now to see how wrong I am as everyone picks this apart.

[@Mohsinbagban]

Glad to know that I wasn't the only one to notice that..

[@danetz88]

You are right the diameter of the wheel does not impact torque but the force that pushes the car forward, Tq=F x diam, so F=Tq/diam, they got it wrong. Also parasitic losses is used wrong both in the video and in your explanation, parasitic losses refers to all losses including internal engine losses at the bearings, piston rings etc., so if you measure the power of the engine at the crankshaft it already takes into consideration those losses.

[@mattliesch7047]

@@danetz88 Thanks for bringing up wheel thrust where I failed to consider it (I didn't mention wheel diameter). As for the parasitic losses, yes crank hp takes internal sources into consideration. I was referring to the losses in the gearing where a simple gear set like a Tesla's yields about 5-10% loss.

[@adamtheninjasmith2985]

Wait a minute! Isn't the song in the beginning the same one Brent from pfi speed used in his tuning montages with the animated Brent dancing on the screen? 😂 Love it!

[@Kowen8714]

Horsepower differences might be theoretical motor power vs what the battery can supply. Tesla had issues with that some years ago, when they listed motor power that wasn't achievable because of battery limitations.

[@zayhs6351]

I will not conform to the EVs, they will have to fine my gas engine out of existence

[@OmegaF77]

Pls don't give them ideas. And I love EVs, but I'm a car guy too.

[@48Boxer]

If Supercar Blondie reviewed it you know it's fake

[@Tony_Man]

So many casualties

[@kresimirmilisa5560]

very good explained about ev cars.

[@joseabundis557]

I've watched Mastodon live in concert like 3 times. Always an amazing show.

[@satyamkalgude3902]

I remember driving it and it was good at first but then nothing was remarkable about it,felt same like other my cars such as Lamborghinis and Ferrari's even slower perhaps, they could have done a lot better job than what they did, idk but didn't felt normal,just like any other car in Forza

[@sunnersoohoo4279]

Same problem as Tesla : the wrong technology. & where's the glory in dying in a massive battery fire 🔥?

[@RandomTaemate]

First time here within the hour of the post! Sup Nolan hope you and the donut crew have a great 2022!

[@Donut]

Thank you Taelor, you too!

[@donavinnezar]

you guys should still try to get a shop visit and interview going it could make a great episode !

[@luchadorito]

Oh my God an other billionaire techbro who thinks he is Carol Shelby payed some engineers and marketing people to build him 7 overpowered gimmicky toys which will never be mass manufactured, will overheat like crazy and will be forgotten in a year…I can barely contain my excitement.

[@luchadorito]

Even if this makes it to production and has all the advertised figures, it will be a low production number toy for rich people not a proper racecar OR a proper production car. Moving a shitload of capital to produce something thats neither profitable as a business venture nor particularly revolutionary in its field is not very impressive. I dont like Elon but he did revolutionize the car industry with Tesla AND make a shitload of profit. Lycan, Raesr and all these other fugazi ass supercars do none of that.

[@Tony_Man]

@@luchadorito at least with ICE, it's impressive for a small manufacturer to churn out 1K+ horsepower without the aid of various other establishments like SSC, Zenvo, and Koenigsegg. From a consumer standpoint, EV hypercars all don't seem to have any unique features to justify buying one or the other. A least Lucid is able to sell cars for an expensive price but at least the car looks like something you might see once in a while and is practical for what it is.

[@yes7420]

unable to hear the beans

[@Casper_and_Red_Betty]

Been waiting for you to review this saw this a couple years ago

[@diogodimas8677]

Btw, for all eletric cars with at least a motor in each wheel, awd torque vectoring is actually simple.

[@Starfighter-nk4mo]

Yup. Just some lines of code to the ESC’s

[@jeremiahmauricio5377]

Long term EV's have a capacity problem, 1. is the rare earth elements to support the battery needs. 2. Grid fragility limits the increased power demands for large scale implementation. 3. Mass EV use in cold environment could cause critical breakdowns in say a blizzard where vehicles are stuck on the road for hours trying to heat the passenger compartment, you can't just send people out with gas cans to support them. As a niche or a small capacity of the total car market EVs make some sense though not much, and when we stop subsidizing them you will see the market crash. Hybrids however make tons of sense, imagine a diesel/electric hybrid even plug-in capability. I would drive a turbo diesel hybrid all day long, and you could run bio-diesel to help the environment.

[@TechDove]

Well said 👍

[@daltonv5206]

Careful using logic and reason. Ev fanboys will attack you relentlessly

[@4literv6]

Cobalt consumption is #2 for the fossil fuel industry. It takes 15-20% of all energy used globally just to find, extract, transport, refine and transport fossil fuels again so you can burn it at 15-25% total efficiency well-wheels. Plenty of rare earths are used in spark plugs, catalytic converters and 02 sensors. Any comment on that by chance? 🤔 As for heating, an ev doesn't sit there wasting its fuel by idling, at full blast a tesla for example can run its heater alone for day's. So no sitting in traffic won't be a major concern for any ev owners. Plus they almost all have seat warmers and heated steering wheels. As for grid stability try doing some research on off peak charging. Evs actually allow the grid to shunt energy that would otherwise be wasted into their batteries so utilities make more $ Also for fun look up total amount of rejected energy. Hint you'll find if we stop burning fossil fuels and switch to renewables and evs, we'd actually use less than half the current worldwide energy needed now. Just shutting off the drill rigs, oil refineries and oil pump jacks would allow the complete conversion to evs. 👍🏻

[@michaelbuckers]

I believe the torque and horsepower claims. Electric motors produce absolutely bullsh*t amount of torque and horsepower, especially at launch and when cold respectively. It's why electric cars only need a final drive, but not a gearbox.

[@cyrus986]

Idk why you said ecoboost mustang as the example but i liked it!

[@vistastructions]

MKBHD just released his S21 FE review AMD YOU GUYS WERE FEATURED IN IT!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!

[@yanmustand]

The Lykan was debunked as a pretty dang good car, who knows about this one

[@l33tshinobi70]

I'd be all for Raesr being featured on a Donut episode. Wishing them the best. I love underdog stories in the auto industry.

[@misterhat6395]

Even when I’m not watching a mastodon video it’s still kind of a mastodon video, hell yes algorithm good job!

[@murmur3966]

Hey I would love to see you do a follow up video with a tour and Q&A with the Raesr guys if they are up to it. Great look at the new kid on the block.

[@D2U56Gaming]

Hey, could you make a comparison video about the manual shift between a set of paddles and a tradition stick shift?

[@dert693]

Is the shop visit still on? That would be amazing as a separate vid!

[@julessimon7665]

Nolan were you at Mastodon/Opeth concert? From now on you are my favorite youtube/car host. 🤘🤘

[@jorgetardones4206]

Best moment to go see Mastadon live, their new album is fire!!!