Can This Gadget Make a Crappy Drum Kit Sound Expensive?

[@kunaikai]

That zoom sounds great though

[@8020drummer]

It's gotten me through many years of this channel. It's also super convenient to set up. Just turn it on, put it on a table in front of the kick, and hit "record".

[@drumjjj777]

I think you should blend them

[@Lmkt]

Hi Nate, I've been using the EAD10 for a couple years now and here are some thoughts/tips: -overall it is very quick to install and setup. It literally takes me 2 minutes to set it up. -most of the scenes sound like crap or overprocessed, which is why I think a lot of people here are saying "the Zoom is better"... -...but like you said, the 'Compressor' scene is actually very good and balanced and punchy. I use it about 98% of the time. -for lofi/hip-hop I like 'Dirty' (#8) and 'Motor City' (#29) -the snare side of the snare drum is actually too loud in most natural sounding scenes, because the snare side is geographically closer to the EAD10 mics. That's a pity and I don't know any solution other than lowering your snare. 'Compressor' doesn't have this problem thankfully. -drums or cymbals positioned right above the mics will be much too loud (we all usually have toms there or a ride cymbal or splash or whatever). No workaround other than put the drum/cymbal further away... Things you'll need: -In order to use the EAD10 to its fuller effect, like recording video with your phone, you'll need the Rec'n'Share app. It's free. It sometimes doesn't work very well. Make sure you turn the module OFF before plugging your phone, otherwise you'll see an error pop-up saying "couldn't recognize device, please plug a Yamaha device". -For iPhone user you'll need to buy the "Lightning to USB" adapter. It's overpriced (around $50) but without it you can't plug your phone. -Supposedly you should be able to play songs from your phone from the Rec'n'Share app. However most of the time the app won't even see or recognize the songs and you won't be able to do it. That's why I recommend to just use a jack cable to plug something like a phone, tablet, PC or disc player and use AUX to drum over music. -You'll most likely need a bag to carry the EAD10 around, I found a camera bag that is just perfect, I'll give you the reference if you need it. -You'll also likely need a male/female jack extension to plug your headphones into the EAD 10 if your cord is too short. -If you want to record video you'll need a long ass USB A to B cable, because Rec'n'Share can't use the iPhone 11 wide lens, so you'll need to put your phone quite far away from your drums. That was longer than I anticipated. Anyway, hope it helps. Most of the latest stuff I posted on my channel were recorded with the EAD10. Overall I'm quite satisfied with it despite the negative points that I've mentioned. I don't need a lot of scenes, I just need a consistent drum sound and something with which to record audio and video easily. The EAD10 provides all that.

[@eddygaspar6842]

What is the carrying bag that you use?

[@Lmkt]

@@eddygaspar6842 Sorry for the late response. It's a Lowepro Tahoe BP 150, which is now discontinued, it seems... But in case that helps, here is the internal size: 25.5 x 12.8 x 36 cm You can make your own little compartments, I made a big one for the module and two small ones for the AC and the trigger. Also has enough space for all cables and more. I think it's possible to find similarly-sized, affordable camera bags. I see lowepro has some stuff for like €200 which is way overkill for this, I think I paid like €60 for this one.

[@billbird9477]

In case anyone's curious, the EAD is made for recording and not live sound. It's condenser mics will pick up all the sound from the rest of the band and the room creating feedback in a live gig situation. Definitely a bitchin mic for in the studio tho

[@8020drummer]

Agreed. Since recording is all I do in that room, I neglected to mention that :P

[@jackmills5071]

@@HelenGPitts obvious scam

[@zacdrake]

I have used in a live outdoor setting and no feedback issues. Also have used it in a small practice room setting with loud guitar, bass and vocals...no feedback issues.. In the practice room, I had to turn it way up to make it feedback. I am sure that feedback could be an issue in some venues.

[@michaelstonedrums6877]

I use it to monitor my live drum mix too, though. I do in-ears and have been using monitor apps to control the mix, and this genuinely made it easier to manage that.

[@leroyharper4513]

Same no problem live after I put a gate on its channel

[@midininja3790]

TBH, I actually preferred the zoom.

[@8020drummer]

I like the zoom too. But the compression is like a dish with too much salt. It's delicious for the first few bites, but over the meal it becomes cloying. Also keep in mind that I did *zero* mixing on the EAD sound. You guys will definitely see the difference in future videos.

[@midininja3790]

@@8020drummer Granted. And I'm thinking nice woody drums, not trying to mix-out horrible frequencies (or mix-in non-existent ones).

[@makisogroove]

yeah the snare is kind of irritating in the new one tbh

[@BrandonScottDrums]

HEY! It's me!! You know what's funny... I think that clip recorded outdoors was just using my Canon EOS mic!!! HA! Funny how things can actually sound better outdoors without the sound rebounding off the walls.

[@8020drummer]

Native mic or shotgun? As you heard my native canon sound is hot gaaaarbage :P

[@BrandonScottDrums]

@@8020drummer Not entirely sure to be honest... It was a Canon 60D.

[@8020drummer]

@@BrandonScottDrums new strategy - I'll just record all my playing clips outdoors :P

[@liveraddieradder]

I watched this video from start to finish without stopping!

[@robertstone1218]

For demo purposes, the zoom wins. In the mix, the EAD sounds better imo

[@javiergomez3109]

oh man EAD10 prices are going up on Reverb now!

[@AlexandreStOnge]

I've been using mine with Remo Silentstroke and low volume cymbals since I live in an apartment, it's pretty great!

[@hsap2223]

I need to get more tech savvy with stuff like this.. thanks for the vid man! Do more of these because I know im not the only drummer out there who struggles with technology..

[@rondeangelis7384]

nathan great device been using this over a year now. do videos and audio at same time. one thing to note though. that rubber pad attached to the knob for bass drum unit may come off, so always check that because if you loose it wont be able to attach

[@adamblevins1435]

I bought one of these about a year ago, and it has changed everything. I wouldn't use it for a pro studio recording, but it's great for a quick and dirty solution, such as recording KZbin videos. I've also had great success using it live, but it's probably worth mentioning that I use in-ear monitors with my band.

[@jonashellborg8320]

Great news! Look forward to hearing more drumming from said NYC rental place, definitely a step up in recording gear. Congratulations!

[@dugthrelfall2027]

Love this video, especially love the better music mention, assuming from Canberra, Australia.which is where I bought my favourite drum kit 34 years ago yes, LOL I must’ve been a toddler when I bought that kit ha ha ha ha hah Also my Roland TD - nine

[@markhedges1194]

Fantastic as Always Nate! Great expose on the Drum sound gadget! Wow that is impressive and gives everyone desperate for excellent sound quality, a fighting chance!! Thanks Dude, see you next time!!!

[@GreatBigBoat]

I placed an order for the EAD in June...Long and Mcquade, Toronto. They informed me last week that I will not see it until October......grrrrrrrrrrr.

[@honuman39]

I really like the ead10. I bought the extra snare trigger to isolate and change the snare sound. When I wanted to record a track before the ead I would sub mix a 3-4 mic set up on a Mackie 1202 which connected to a tascam digital recorder. Getting the mic sounds right and then sub mixing them so they're balanced took a lot of time. Then I'd upload it to my computer and software to add compression, reverb etc. Now I have the ead hooked up to my computer and the Yamaha mic does a good job of mixing a kit. I just record my track and send it off. I have to get more experience playing with some of the adjustments I can do with the ead but I'm really happy with it as a simple recording process. I think I can get a better natural drum sound out of using individual mics but the convenience and sound of the ead makes it an easy choice for me.

[@michaelstonedrums6877]

I love mine. I also use Compressor as my main. I'm using this with a bunch of other mics on the kit too, though. This unit seems to have made getting a great drum mix significantly easier.

[@gonzorudeboy]

I actually heard of it when it came out. I only tried it recently and was blown away. On ludwig "Bonham" kit, you had a variety of sounds without having to tweak a ton of things. Most innovative piece of gear for drums since Edrums.

[@gonzorudeboy]

Just saw the "airpods incident" episode. Man you got me on that one 😂😂😂.

[@8020drummer]

They don't sound bad, actually. I'm a fan of lofi and distortion.

[@gonzorudeboy]

@@8020drummer I do too, it's just the incongruity of the situation that made me laugh. That and this sarcastic humour of yours. I often heard that us Europeans are pretty sensible to New York's humour. Well I do.😂

[@cresk]

I have this EAD10 thing since the week it came out and it has been the best practice tool beyond expectations. Now I‘m combining the EAD10 with a AKG drum mics and I will never go back again.

[@mikeyshy8522]

I'm a rock/ metal drummer and I really enjoy your show bro.

[@brettclurdrums]

Been thinking about getting one of these things for a while. Good to hear your perspective on it!

[@rickmcguiredrums418]

Very impressed with the Zoom audio. Great value too

[@bhaveshsolanki6485]

I think your great mate! Its will always be the player not the drumkit you use, I reckon you would sound good playing a tin can! I always love checking out new music also and that Alfa Mist track amazing so Thanks!

[@stephencshapiro]

Yeah gonna be honest the zoom is better for your channel. All the Yamaha clips sound like the snare is upside down. There's so much you can do with the placement of the zoom mic to change your drum sounds. I am one of those mixing mavens you mentioned. Hit me up if you have any audio questions.

[@8020drummer]

If I had $1000 to burn upgrading my sound, what should I buy. You can email me at [e-mail] .

[@stephencshapiro]

@@8020drummer Are there any mic stands at your rehearsal space / would you feel comfortable leaving some there?

[@8020drummer]

@@stephencshapiro there are communal mic stands

[@gautrstafr]

I've been eyeing the EAD10 for some months, looks amazing especially if using some silent remo meshheads.

[@ZaxDrumsandGolf]

Yamaha EAD 10 have become really popular lately!! Probably the best electronic devices for drums which Yamaha has brought out lately!! It makes recording acoustic kits easier from what I have heard!!

[@alensiljak]

Congratulations on the new gadget! Like many others, I actually like the sound from Zoom. And much easier to set up, I guess. I'm so used to your drum sound by now.

[@npc4-12c2]

Got my EAD10 last year. If you're considering buying it, remember that your use of the product is contingent with the Yamaha Rec n Share app working properly. Yamaha customer support takes about 1-3 days to respond, so getting help can feel like playing tag. If you're making drumming videos for IG and/or KZbin, you can encounter periods of downtime. For me, I had to wait a month for the app update after getting the iPhone 11. Not sure whether to recommend this product. It's a dream come true when it works - and an absolute nightmare when it doesn't.

[@sogent56]

Love mine

[@brandonniecampbell]

I love myead. I use it with a minimal kit mic setup and get a great mix.

[@sm3656]

The Earpod sound was awesome.

[@Tambolero32]

I agree the zoom mic sounds good!

[@rdefabri]

I could see the value for this in my home studio - it's in my basement. Using SM57 mics, and overheads, the room sounds terrible...I just can't get "studio quality" drum sounds. I do believe the EAD10 could help tremendously here. What I'm curious about is how would it work / sound in a live situation? Could ambient sounds "trigger" it? It would be cool to set up with a traditional drum set, but crank out some cool gated sounds or what have you. Could be a value-add for this thing. Still see it as a mic option, a good one at that. I'll consider one of these for sure!

[@philippefrater2000]

EAD Rocks!

[@Wildebeast27]

i think when you start mixing them both you are going to get a really cool and unique sound. When I include lower res audio into my recordings it gives it a nice flavor

[@brian96597]

At first I thought you were going to say ".... this crappy haircut..." :D

[@CyberChrist]

As others, I prefer the Zoom, but that was interesting. Glenn Fricker should learn about this.

[@tojafato]

Thanks 🥁👍:)

[@mechasartre3694]

Audio engineers having heart attacks all over the joint

[@gergelyosze7213]

Hey thanks for the video, more useful than the typical company gear videos. Question: so you can easily use with GarageBand and logic and co? Do you connect it to an interface or directly to the computer?

[@Ramshackled17]

I'm playing with EAD for a month,it is great, very easy to get it to work instantly. But I think it will never be like a recording you can make with some drum mics, audio interface and daw. Check out Jeff Randall. His drum sounds are amazing with 3 mics, and not ultimate gear. I'm starting to recognize instantly if the drum video is recorded with EAD. Specialy the snare sound, with the snareside sound prevalent. But when mixing with songs, it can blend really well I think. There's a song in my channel I just did with only EAD on drums. It's called Grape Hill #2.

[@simoncook5125]

Really like your channel - Keep the content coming =)

[@octaviohenrique.n]

I still didn't got if the sound is entirely triggered or if it blends with the real drum sound with the mikes

[@LoadingSet7]

I liked the camera sound best

[@RVADrummer]

Wait until you get into the Rec n' Share app!!!!

[@Jellybeantiger]

Awesome.

[@rorekel]

You always look so disappointed in me

[@jaygee8566]

Quality drums outside the snare hardly matter for recording. It's all the room, the mics, and the cymbals. Honeslty, I think the weak spot in your audio quality is the cymbals. I'm not particularly fond of any of them, and the ride especially always sounds over-bright and harsh for your style of playing. Get yourself a Dark Energy or K Con ride, a K Dark Thin crash, and some Sand hats (or cymbals around those lines--dark and complex) and your recordings will sound significantly better imho.

[@sydhamelin1265]

I play with a new-wave band that really, really wants my drums to have a much thicker, reverb sound (think 1989 Cure). This might be a nice quick fix, and not require me looking into a different kit.

[@nram3930]

I just find the prospect of micing up a kick so fun I probably wouldn't use this out of desire to mess with the sound analog style...

[@Rockin_Ross]

This is THE best $500 I’ve ever spent for my kit. The module has endless settings and just injects new life into you playing. Just get one. Trust me!

[@jonas2484]

Hi Nate, always enjoy your videos, especially like the fact this is 12 min 34 secs long.... 12:34... I am sure it was intentional 😎

[@QuincasMoreira]

Your Zoom sounds better imo

[@jasonzurlo1543]

"Mixing chops" lol

[@thiloschacht6311]

From a musicians point of view - by „musician“ I mean someone, who has been working for years to achieve a certain sound, something like a unique voice - this trigger-device seems kind of perverse. I even prefer the old Swingstar with all the wrong sizes, recorded by camera or zoom. This translates at least some of the players dynamic and tone. By the way- it‘s absolutely possible to record a small drum kit with only one or two halfway decent microphones. And it‘s fun to learn how!

[@t3wells]

The weakest link is EAD's inability to pick up cymbals because they are out of range. I think the only choice is an overhead mic. The cymbals sound much better with the Zoom ... because they sound.

[@nicholasalexander1644]

Dang but no one's going to talk about that sick haircut tho

[@naturligfunktion4232]

Finally, now I will sample the shit out of your drum breaks *evil laughter*

[@MtnXfreeride]

8:08 "its almost like going from mono to stereo" Most samples I hear sound mono - does this device output stereo?

[@andydrums4333]

5:13. Bro what💀💀

[@sandwichyourself4481]

It sounds like the future breaks kit from GarageBand

[@sydhamelin1265]

That sucks that the Prince song was taken down, because I was going to listen to this 4 second clip instead of buying the album. The KZbin copyright system has been proven totally competent, because my plan to listen to this video, instead of Purple Rain, was thwarted.

[@khalednajjar3609]

niiiiice thannnk u .....Which is the best mic for camera to record drums and not expensive, and to record directly without using an audio editing program on pc

[@alpacarama21]

Wait, I'm confused. Is this a midi triggering system, or an effects/processing system? Is the audio it outputs actual mic audio or is the mic only triggering midi samples which become the output audio? EDIT: or capable of blending both?

[@8020drummer]

alpacarama both/either. And you can control the level of raw mic sound vs trigger from the module

[@alpacarama21]

@@8020drummer That makes it much more clear. Sounds like a pretty trick system!

[@Tambolero32]

How is it going in NY I hope everyone's well and safe!

[@lecapitole5663]

Hi Nate. Thanks for the new vid. I was wondering if you apply any post treatment with the zoom recordings (eq, comp), and, if so, what software do you use ? Thanks

[@profbruzequickhhp6438]

Request: Can you play simple drums to simple blues?

[@rhodrijones6321]

Anyone notice the typo in the video title? Great review / vid either way, as per!

[@8020drummer]

lol - fixed

[@rhodrijones6321]

@@8020drummer Sorry man, really didn't want to be that guy!!

[@DominicToma1995]

Are you using your AirPods straight through Logic with the EAD10? Do you ever experience latency?

[@colesisler582]

Will this make my great Ludwig kit that’s pretty high end sound even better

[@ethanmole7536]

What’s the track at 1:10

[@crouton3455]

so it just triggers sample libraries?

[@8020drummer]

The Aussie guy explains it - it's got two mics in xy config (and from the sound they're higher quality than my zoom), and also a trigger. My guess is there's also some AI in the box that makes the mix sound good.

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

Just get a decent quality large diaphragm condenser mic and put it a couple of foot away from the kick drum.

[@bijikedelai]

what's the output? is it MIDI? or WAV?

[@BeesWaxMinder]

From 8:36 to “what about Jazz” the audio went WEIRD?!

[@gigajule5000]

probably trying to avoid the copyright thing or something related.

[@minisurfbanana]

Wait that’s a shared kit??? No wonder its crappy and the room is gross! Lol but who cares yourr a great teacher and drummer👍👍👍

[@8020drummer]

lol somebody actually realizes it. (That it's a shared room, that is.)

[@minisurfbanana]

The 80/20 Drummer some of your lessons go way over my head since I just started 37 days ago and 70hrs of practicing later...lol u don’t happen to take on beginners Do u?

[@topa1798]

Wow

[@Jorgelopezdrums]

it sounded like shit before, and now it sounds like good shit.

[@Thomlistentoslayer]

Change that damn snare drum head😅i'll even donate a new one for You😀

[@8020drummer]

Thomlistentoslayer not mine. My personal snare hear is pristine. As I’ve stated multiple times, in multiple places :)

[@edrackham6041]

0:30 prefer the before sound honestly

[@Sami-Gantz]

OK now we're talking! How do you sync external audio and video?

[@mechasartre3694]

In filming movies, that’s what the snappy black and white thing does, link the frame that it closes in to the audio spike from the snap

[@gruwer92]

I downloaded rec n share app, downloaded some songs from apple music and the app keeps telling me „This data cannot be selected” under each song. Any idea whats going on ? Dope video tho !

[@adamyurgionas4680]

You have to outright buy the song

[@thomasnussbaum4711]

I like this thing a lot for practice and homerecording. But I use it live, too! In a Top-40/Dance band, where there are no amps or monitors on stage. It works fine and this shaved a lot of my set up/tear down time... great content video as usual. Greetings from Germany.

[@drumming4p]

Who else @5:13 let out a giggle?

[@johnmclaughlin9674]

Cause TAMA rules

[@jeremykane2384]

Stud

[@shallowfakes593]

sounded shit the zoom was way better, have you tried putting the zoom up in the air behind your head more like an overhead mic?

[@jangobango2847]

Lol all bluetooth mics can easily be hacked just like car computers can easily be hacked and controlled xP fun times

[@jhstony]

Sorry, I don’t like the results.....the zoom sound was better

[@ricosalomar]

Call me crazy, but I LIKE cymbals.

[@waranghira]

......It's an improvement? Native Camera sounds best. Maybe a combination of the three would work.

[@natefreedman2972]

You better check your ears cuddy

[@helemaalnicks6215]

I'll buy that kit for 0$ if you bring it here.

[@8020drummer]

Exactly. I have to throw in delivery just to move it.

[@mdlassel]

Ill take that drumset off ur hands for $0.00

[@iamsteveshoe]

Before sounded mucho better

[@1musikgeek]

Tell Trump to approve the 2nd round of stimulus so I can buy this gear. :3

[@gruwer92]

Did you have your hair transplated, bruh? On your older videos your have much fewer hair 🤔

[@MichaelMoralesTV1]

They both sound equally bad. The snare's a piece of paper.

[@alessandroboraso4870]

Zoom wins