Can we get this RUN DOWN Yamaha XJ 600 to start / Adventure bike build EP 1

[@makam2089]

1) The body of spark plug needs to touch the motor to spark. 2) If the bike does not want to start, do not open the throttle - you are just adding more air to a mixture which is most likely too lean. The motor started with started fluid = to lean. Most likely choke is not working correctly. 3) Stuff coming out of carbs is petrol. That means that the needle valve does not hold pressure and is overflowing the carb. This petrol goes to the crankcase and dilutes the oil. 4) Due to point 3 - please check oil level. If it is higher then when you parked the bike you will need to replace the oil. If the oil smells like petrol - you will need to replace the oil. Only 2 % content of petrol in oil increases friction by approx. 50%. If this confirms - don't run the engine with the old oil inside. 5) You will need to check the float valves at carbs. TheMotorcycleMD channel has a good video about this. Put the carbs up-side-down and apply small pressure with your mouth to the pipe that supplies petrol. If you hear any hiss - one or more valves need to be replaced. At this point I would order a set. 6) Adjust the float height (same TheMotorcycleMD has a good video) as it is very easy to mess up and most mechanics dont know how to do it. 7) When you leave a carb bike for more than 2-3 days, close the petrol supply (ex. pinch the vacuum hose to petcock) when the bike is running and let it burn all the fuel in carbs. Even if one needle valve does not hold, it will not bleed this petrol to oil. 8) When removing the carbs, heat the boots connecting carbs to engine block with a hair dryer. It will make them softer and avoid any damage as they are most likely quite old. 9) Please stop buying new parts at random :) Your ignition wires are fine if the bike ran well during Iceland or winter in Italy. They don't go bad overnight :)

[@adkomst]

Yep, you have to touch the spark plug to the motor in order to ground it

[@FreeMilesMC]

Thank you i will try again with that ☺️

[@MtbPoland]

yep

[@paulpaulsen7309]

Hi @@FreeMilesMC, ... es empfiehlt sich außerdem, den letzten Cm vom Zündkabel am Stecker abzuschneiden, da korrodiert die Seele vom Kabel und nach dem Abschneiden hast du "frischen" Draht am Stecker ...

[@cacavati]

So i would do as.follows: -carb cleanup and adjust ( settings can be found in manual) -coils resistance check - valves adjustment ! -check timing chain tolerance. Some of these things need repair manual. I am not a mechanic but haynes repair manuals make it clear. I have a 96 srad that i keep on the streets running still. Best of luck from Romania

[@SherKhan-b1kes]

Miles, your most important thing needed is a good Workshop (whb) manual for this model. It’s full of trade secrets and gets you into a rhythm of working methodically. Has the tank been cleaned? You can clean the carbs a thousand times and the jets can still get blocked. Petrol filter? A subscriber below has already mentioned the coils, they’re paired 1+4 as with 2+3. It’s a process of elimination. Good luck 👍🏽

[@bassiebouw]

When checking the spark plugs, make sure that te spark plug is touching the cilinder head, or somewhere to ground.

[@azimuth2142]

DIY mechanic language. I am so proud. :D 1 and 4 not firing. Sounds like a an ignition coil has given up.

[@FreeMilesMC]

I will Order a new one ☺️

[@azimuth2142]

If you have a multimeter, test the coil. A workshop manual will tell you the resistance values for a working coil.

[@zweispurmopped]

@@FreeMilesMC Don't yet! Get the book first, don't get into aimlessly swapping bits. That will turn any repair into a penny grave.

[@zweispurmopped]

The firing order on almost all inline-fours is 1,3,4,2. If a single coil is installed, all fail, if there is a wasted spark system, 1 and 4 or 3 and 2 will fail. quadruple ignition coil could make what Miles sees here.

[@FreeMilesMC]

@@zweispurmopped already orderd it, it will arive soon from Amazon ☺️

[@robertsarghei9408]

100% I would get a workshop manual ASAP as it holds a lot of information for your model in particular. I went with the more expensive route on my TDM 850 4tx. I bought original mikuni carburetor rebuild kits with all the parts needed. Also a choke rebuild kit might be in order. In my case I am doing a complete overhaul for the bike. If you are on a budget I would go with fresh coils + leads, a good carb cleanup, fuel filter and choke setup/rebuild. Setup the carbs as instructed in the manual and you should be good. Looking forward to the next video.

[@benetnasch2096]

It's always going to be the last thing that you (or anybody in the comments) thinks to check. That's always how these things go. The progress will be fun to watch and I'm interested in seeing you figure out what's causing this. A common recommendation is to check the coils and I agree with this. I had an issue once where I tore nearly the entire electrical system of a vehicle apart without thinking to check if the coils were actually good.

[@lauraiss1027]

I know that everyone and their mom already said this, but also at 12:14 You answered it yourself. Just think about it a little - electricity goes where there's continuity, like ground or consumer. If you pick up a live electric wire it does not spark because electricity does not have where to go. It does not have to be the engine, you can touch outer part of plug with anything grounded. Even yourself if standing in puddle with bare feet or holding on water faucet, but that is not a pleasant experience, don't try that. Anyway, exciting video as usual and I love how you are not shy of not knowing stuff and don't pretend just because video.

[@gjerdeanders]

Before ordering new coils, or wires. Check the ignition control unit. They have a tendency to get corrosion in the pins, and can give you dead cylinders. It is a black flat box at the rear end of the bike, you probably need to remove the plastic there to get access

[@FreeMilesMC]

Thanks i will do that ☺️

[@gjerdeanders]

@@FreeMilesMC I think it is a decent possibility that it could be the issue, since the bike was drowned in mud in Iceland

[@gypsymonk8229]

I agree with this !

[@filiphaska3653]

there are 2 coil packs. First makes spark for cylinders 1 and 4, second makes spark for cylinder 2,3. When checking spark plugs, they have to touch the cylinder head, so they have ground. Be aware that sparks can spark ourside the engine but not in the engine. You can more easily check coil packs by taking spark wires out of the spark plug conector(in czechia we call it fajfka or faje) and keep them close to cylinder head. They will throw spark(be carefull and wear heavy rubber gloves, because it can throw spark in your hand). If the bike still runs on only 2 cylinders, try measuring the compression in cylinders. Valve seats can be mangled and leak, also it can be piston rings, but thats the worst case scenarion. For making sure the bike will run propperly, adjust the valve clearances. this is all easily done in garage. At these jobs you will be needing only feeler gauge, compression tester, screw drivers, spanners and lot of determination. Also you can download servis manual for this specific bike. If you need to I can send you one in PDF. Also sorry for english. Greetings from Czech republick

[@kjutl]

Hey, I have this same issue on XJ 900. Either check the coil if it has ground as it often get rusted and lose ground so clean it or the coil died. There are two coils, one for 1 and 4, second for 2 and 3. So if you have your inner piston running, the second coil might be dead. Replace it will be the best practice. As you are from Germany, ebay is your friend in this case. Hope it helps

[@robot6346]

Love the variety! Can’t wait for the next episode!

[@antonpalmborg7636]

Sounds like low compression on 1 cylinder when running on the starter. Probably number one as you also said it spat out fuel (could be because of a hole in the piston). Time for a compression test! Great work :)

[@FreeMilesMC]

Thats a good Idea. Just need to Organise the Tools

[@koenmldr]

So, I am happy I was wrong. I must admit I expected this to be rather boring but I really enjoyed it. No music, no instagram worthy planned "perfect" shots and you bubling around in a way I can really relate too (because a have also limited knowledge of this subject) was really nice to see. Looking forward to the next episode 👍

[@koenmldr]

Oh ofcourse really rooting for you that you can fix it yourself. And the comments gave me quite a few tips I can use myself 🎉

[@chrisvaneeden4129]

I had the same, 1 and 4 ar conected and fire at the same time.( 2 and 3 also.) With my motor it was the coil who give the spark to 1 and 4. You have to coils. 1 to spark cilinder 1 and 4, and the second to give a spark to cilinder 2 and 3. Look it up 4 cillinder and how they move

[@martinhack6486]

Good luck with your renovations and repairs. The workshop manuals are available as pdf downloads so Google around. My post with the link was deleted

[@FreeMilesMC]

Oh, it’s a bummer to hear that the post got deleted. I did not do that must have been some kind of KZbin issue. It’s amazing to see you again in the comments ☺️. I have orderd a cheap one of Amazon

[@martinhack6486]

As others have said it is a very good investment. I guess KZbin prohibites web links as the post disappeared within seconds. It's a shame as I have loads of document, books and articles for this bike but no way of getting them to you. Keep up the good work.

[@tothlacko8290]

Yeah. These bike did not like to sit for a long time (like 2week is kong...) One thing tehát You have to!!!! Check. Is the valve clearance, because if that isn't right the bike will never run right. Valve earance, carb clean as fck, floathights right, jets right, needle and needle jet right, then a carb tune, then a carb sync. But if You do a carbsync before valve adjustment.... Then it is a Kiss to a death. I am doing mine(again) this Year :D it is Just frustrating... But keep up, it'll be fine😁

[@FreeMilesMC]

Next episode on this coming soon and doing the valves is in planing ☺️

[@Carby4SZK]

Check sparks by grounding the plugs - touch the metal part to your engine case to ground it. Also, check your old plugs and see if they run lean, or they are dirty with oil/have visible carbon deposits. My guess it's that your carbs are way off and you are running too rich. Detailed view with your plugs might help a lot.

[@FreeMilesMC]

The spark plugs Look terabil, you could be right i think First i will adress the hole ignition coil issue and then the Carbs

[@DasSaren]

You've probably heard this already, but just in case; I'd recommend checking the ignition coils with a multimeter. The little caps that go on top of the sparkplugs lead to the coils; there should be one coil per two sparkplugs

[@jaket5322]

As others said, you must touch the body of the spark plug on to the engine casing to see a spark. Prove you are getting a spark on the outer cylinders before going further. If you are getting a spark on the outer cylinders look to the carburetors. If you started the bike running on the middle 2 and you then sprayed the easy start into the intakes of the outer cylinders, does it then fire them? Also before trying to start the bike I would open the drain screw on each float bowl of the carburettor to see if there is actually fuel getting past the needle valve and into the float bowl. As far as I know the fuel from the jet is controlled by a vacuum diaphragm on each carburettor. The vacuum diaphragm lifts the needle out of the jet to give more fuel. Are the vacuum lines ok? They may be inside the throttle body though. I don’t have experience of the XJ600 but have had a few twins with carburettors (GPZ500 and TRX850) my current bikes are fuel injected (both rotax v60 engines). Nice video anyway, nice to see you on your travels but also nice to see a young guy getting his hands dirty and actually fixing a bike. I know you will sort it out, it really isn’t rocket science.

[@januszk3392]

You should definitely check the ignition coils - if the ignition module failed, it wouldn't start at all. It is essential to synchronize the carburetors and check the valve clearances

[@MotoTourIreland]

Excellent video. We have all been there, struggling with a breakdown. Keep at it.

[@makam2089]

Yess! Moar!

[@FreeMilesMC]

I am working on it ☺️

[@j.m.6456]

Well watching your fuel container on opening the first time it quickly ran out of gasoline minute 10:36. Are you sure your floater valves are working proper ? Or have the carbs really been complete empty ? Is your oil smelling as it has fuel in it ? This might although describe the spitting first carb. ( And by the way being more organized and less swearing 🙂 helps too )

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

Great Series. The sound is for sure not good. There is something wrong with at least 2 cyl in my opinion. I believe that you will have to clean and adjust also the carbs. Keep going bro.

[@ralfhomann6024]

Moin Miles, check mal die Zündspule. Wenn 1 und 4 von einer Zündspule befeuert werden, kann es das schon sein. Wenn dem so ist, mal die Kabelverbindungen checken oder Zündspule ersetzen. Zündkabel auch mal checken. Wurde ja alles schon geschrieben. Zur Benzinflasche: Ich hab´ auch so ein Ding. Wenn die Maschine nach aller Fehlerbehebung nicht rund läuft, kann es daran liegen, dass der Schlauch der Flasche zu klein ist und nicht genug Sprit ankommt. Der Schlauch der Yamaha ist ja deutlich größer. Habe ich auch schon gehabt. Ach ja. Normale Schrauben nicht im Sortiment kaufen. In Deiner Nähe gibt es auch einen Sonderpreis Baumarkt. Da kannst Du Schrauben lose nach Bedarf kaufen. Kosten 10,-€ pro Kilogramm. Und die U-Scheiben heißen "washer" auf Englisch ;-) Gruß Ralf

[@rek954]

Old granny need some love 😉 check her carbs 😉. Very curious to see if you get old red run again. Old is gold !!! 😉🤣

[@kobak5]

Hmm if you have 2 fireing might be a coilpack. Really excited for this series, hope you get it on the road and do another tour with the old bike!

[@josetrigueiro5978]

Sorry to just say this now, but it's only now that I discovered your channel. You need to buy the Haynes Manual which shows how to repair your motorcycle. I also have a very old and worn-out XJ 600N and it is this manual that I use to do the mechanical parts that I think I can do. My bike is now at the mechanic, also apparently with carburetor problems. And my motorcycle's carburetor has also been cleaned and tuned, but something continues to fail. You should also check your motorcycle’s valve clearance.

[@tomtrentelman]

Thanks for the vid, your doing a good job!

[@sachatheys1041]

If it start with startpilot, but first and last cylinder doesn't work, with no spark on them (put the sparkler on metal like cylinder wings ) it is high possibly ignition coil: as you have two for 4 cylinders. To check you can exchange between them, or reverse sparkplug cap between cylinder 1 and 4 vs 2 an 3... And test then witch ones are cold now. That will tell you if it is the coil if it change. If no changes: open the carburetor one and for , you will see two gold color jets , it's a weak metal so pay attention to not put too much force..to remove those jets, wash them with vinegar and use electric cable filaments to put debris out of the hole of the jets (that is a gold screw with a specific size hole in it to adjust air Benzine ratio , sociometric...if there is stuff in it , cylinder will not pop...)

[@jamie66moto4]

One coil runs 2 cylinders, normally 1and 3 and the other 2and 4 , probably carbs.

[@NoelRides650]

Oh I forgot I have a 2019 Interceptor 650 as well with 19.5k miles (31k km) and also a Bandit 1250, and I am learning every day.

[@mrcintheuk4641]

The spark plugs need to be touching the engine to see if they've got a spark. Check the HT leads with a multimeter, or replace one at a time. Electronics is a nightmare but there are lots of KZbin videos. Of course the carburettor jets could also be blocked, etc, etc, etc.

[@nicololorenzon3291]

I am liking this series, I think you could switch around the "cables" and ignition coils from cyl 2-3 ( proved to be workig ) to cyl 1-4 that should give you an idea of where the issue lies

[@FreeMilesMC]

Thank you for the Feedback ☺️.

[@ninjaf0x]

You need to touch the spark plugs to ground when checking for spark, normally they will be grounded through the threads, but when you have them out you need to touch them to a bit of unpainted metal on the engine or frame otherwise you will not see any spark

[@ninjaf0x]

With that said I think you did make it clear that your outer cylinders aren't firering, so it might be a coil, but it can also be the ignition signal generation and paths. So if it has points then maybe they need to be rebuild and you should get a multimeter and a wirering diagram and check that all the wires that goes to the coils have continuity from the signal generation unit, weather that's points or a CDI box with VR sensors. You can also try to swap the coils and see if the problem follows the coil or stays

[@frankmercer7009]

Good video. Keep working on it. Good input from your viewers.

[@Rugsadventures]

Your doing great Your packing progress keep up the good work! They sell an I line spark tester that could be useful also. You might have a bad coil I believe they have two coils if your down spark tom the out side cylinders they are on the same coil. I actually had this issue on my 98 xj600

[@Outdoor_S]

I just purchase diversion xj 600😊 1995

[@stevenpoels4639]

You really need a friend mecanic to work on the bike together to learn.....hope you found someone like that .....greetings..🌈🌈🔥

[@TheYorkie1954]

Quite possible one coil runs 1 and 4 and the other 2 and 3. check wiring to the coils

[@doringmike8858]

kürtze mal deine zündkabel , kann sein das sie kein konakt zum zündkertzenstecker mehr aufbauen ! oder zünspule tauschen ! achso und gescheiden kontakt zu motor herstellen wenn du die kerzen drausen hast und testest ob ein funke kommt !!

[@lukasmustermann01]

Ab 13:29 überlappen sich die Tonspuren von deinem Mikrofon und der Kamera, ansonsten ein gutes Video :)

[@FreeMilesMC]

Vielen Dank, hab’s auch eben erst gesehen 😬

[@dochonk961]

Die Zündkerzen müssen Kontakt zum Motor haben. So wirst du keinen Funken erzeugen!

[@FreeMilesMC]

Oh, ja hast recht so stromkreis mäßig macht das Sinn. Vielen Dank da bin ich nicht drauf gekommen

[@pookiewookie7679]

"FFS" x a lot 😂😂

[@FreeMilesMC]

The fruststration of working on a bike 😂😂. I am going to try to keep that down for the Next few episodes

[@pookiewookie7679]

Nooooo. I liked it 😂👍🏼

[@tristansayers6494]

I know everyone has already said this but i will say it again anyway because commenting helps the youtube algorithm 😂 You're not seeing a spark when they are out of the engine because they need to be touching some bare metal in order to ground them for them to work. We have all been there! I remember buying the fuel bottle for the first time. Remember the next time you go to do this is will be easier

[@johnykryll]

You need someone to show you the basics

[@makam2089]

Water bottle crate. How un-German :)beer is mandatory for bike repair.

[@FreeMilesMC]

Haha yes even tho it makes it harder to figure stuff out ☺️

[@tez803]

You are doing too many things at once you could do all these things and put it all back together and still not know what cured it. Do one thing at a time.

[@tez803]

The carbs look very loose. Mine can't be moved when clamped down.