can we go to starclan? | WARRIOR CATS ANIMATIC (shitpost?)

SHORT CATS
WILL NOT
GO
TO
HEAVEN
audio : • can we go to heaven?

[@birb70]

"Short people will *NOT* go to StarClan." Every kit that died : *Are we a joke to you?*

[@theforgottenjester]

Snowkit left the chat

[@diceonvenus]

@@theforgottenjester AKABNABA NO-

[@LocalLazyStove]

The apprentices also have left the chat

[@cornerfluff]

I have left the chat :(

[@JayfReal]

Yes.

[@jelly_nosk7359]

I know it was supposedly retconned, but the fact someone even thought of dooming Lilywhisker, a disabled cat to the dark forest for simply being upset about being disabled, is super messed up

[@LocalLazyStove]

The thought of it to me It just disturbing, so your basically saying I can’t be mad or sad or even bitter about stuff StarClan? Although I’m glad it was just a retcon

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

Even though it was retconned, I don't think we should ever forget about Lilywhisker. I mean, when a superfan thinks StarClan would send a disabled cat to an eternal prison for not taking her crippling with a smile, that _really_ says something about how bad the character writing has become.

[@NULLWOODD]

I KNOW LILYWHISKER DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER. legit one of my favorite characters why’d they have to do her dirty 😭

[@Greenkitten45]

I mean, they sent Brightflower there for being depressed over the death of her kits. 😥

[@michellelopez2170]

Snowtuft is there something he doesn't even remember. It's just punishment for punishment's sake at this point.

[@minkstar9021]

“But what about incels who try to kill people they stalked as well as their children?” “Oh they get a free bag of cookies when they arrive!”

[@lavenderlaceration]

"And what about the cat who worked with the incel to kill someone but died before their victim even did?" "Oh he goes right to hell, we can overlook three attempted murders and being an accessory to murder but attempted murder and being kin of a known killer is too far" Starclan is a raging hypocrite and I hate it

[@LocalLazyStove]

At this point, I’m surprised that none of the clans have been like “You know what? F StarClan we don’t need them their just dead cats” cause that’s literally what they are, dead cats, plus with what happen in the Broken Code by just letting Ashfur in

[@ericke.8640]

just like christian heaven!

[@lavenderlaceration]

@Laura W Hawkfrost, I think there was a stupid double standard that starclan had with him and Ashfur zsjsjdkkz

[@lollivee6770]

@@lavenderlaceration well actually Hawkfrost did take *one* of Firestar’s lives so technically he still succeeded but It’s still fucking stupid

[@jeriko_studios]

They also threw Lilywhisker in there if im not mistaken, because she was "bitter about being an elder early" or whatever, like ok? She's allowed to be bitter, not to mention that because deadfoot was clearly functioning and could do everything a normal warrior while she was basically thrown into the elders den with a "sorry your too disabled to be a warrior anymore" I wouldve been bitter too! And its not like she killed anyone she was always nice and fair despite whatever bitterness she had, SO WHY PUT HER THERE

[@jeriko_studios]

@SATURN13 SERIOUSLY THO

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

I really think it was only retconned because everyone could tell you how fucked up the idea of Lilywhisker in the Dark Forest is. Especially since able-bodied cats who did things a hundred times worse were allowed in StarClan.

[@jeriko_studios]

@@graphitetailgrace3870 better have been or im throwing hands

[@silverfire1248]

I’m fairly certain they’ve decided that anything that was on Vicky’s FB isn’t canon lol

[@FlareJollyDragoness]

@@jeriko_studios *paws or claws

[@sociallyundead419]

Yeah the cats in the Dark Forest prove to me that it's more of a bitterness/willing to move on/wanting forgiveness type deal with them. Less of whether they were bad cats in general.

[@9nikola]

But then there's Juniperclaw

[@sevencubed_]

starc'an is evil headcanon go BRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@felisadidas4932]

It'd be cool if the Dark Forest was more in line with a place where your further actions decide whether you go to Heaven or Hell. Like, if you were morally grey/ungrateful or whatever during your lifetime you could pay off your debt in the Dark Forest in some sort of way, and be let into Starclan. But NOOO Warrior Cats never learned the word "Redemption" or "Forgiveness" or whatever

[@catdacat5863]

I feel like they did this on purpose to show Starclan isnt necessarily the good guys they claim to be

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

I think that was clear when they caused the entirety of The Broken Code by letting Ashfur into StarClan. I mean think about it.

[@bobraekevelt7953]

@@graphitetailgrace3870 yeah I’ve always thought that it was like a way of putting Christian religion (or at least the representation of it) in the books and then showing that its not perfect and the system of that is flawed. (Cause lets be honest only letting people who believed in God into heaven is like saying “right no we don’t care if you’re a good person, as long as you pray you’re good to us). For example how some cats strongly believe starclan is real, and in their world it is real but how Starclan never does anything good if it isn’t for their favourites (like bluestar saw her entire family die in front of her to achieve nothing in the end). Its like firepaw is Warrior Cats Jesus because all other cats get 0 privilege and have like 5 dead family members each book and firepaw just runs around saving the show while he wasn’t even supposed to be there and talking to his dead girlfriend which he shouldn’t have cause he has a wife and she’s a medicine cat (which also reminds me of the church lol) or at least thats what I take from the books.

[@archiepelago4068]

I feel like this would be the case if it weren't for the fact that the writing team literally doesn't seem to be aware of their own writing, especially when not much of value has changed even after tbc. Ashfur had even stated that starclan was selfish and using the living cats(and he was right) except the protagonists denounce his words just because they came out of ashfur and continue to not think anything more of it or their incredibly messed up religion or how genuinely evil starclan is to them most of the time

[@aris1869]

@@bobraekevelt7953 pretty sure that’s mostly your personal interpretation. I’d elaborate on the points you made but I don’t think you want to argue nor are you looking for someone to change your mind. If you want a short summary, basically the idea is God created things a specific “perfect” way, and anything that defies that design defies him, so they literally cannot exist in his full presence(heaven). And if God created everything a certain way, that original design is considered perfect, and human perception of what constitutes a good person still may have been warped and doesn’t align with the original design. Just wanted to dispel any misinformation, I am not attacking you and you are entitled to your interpretation of the series.

[@starvoltnexus3139]

@@graphitetailgrace3870 thank you

[@startheangel9760]

Dark Forest cats may manipulate cats like Crockedstar to join them but Starclan is the ones that truly screws them over, for example Goosefeather and Yellowfang giving them a useless curse that hurts them physically and mentally

[@animefanmapleshadetheacele567]

CrookedStar*

[@LocalLazyStove]

They also proceeded to let a cat who helped a cat kill his own leader, basically abuse his ex “son”, attempted to murder three cats who did nothing and basically caused the freaking conflict of the Broken Code and even was the reason that ark even exist just because he couldn’t get over a break up and was let in because he “loved to much” crap

[@catandrobbyflores]

@@LocalLazyStove ashfur was totally ment to be in the dark forest but, no cant have that.

[@ethanbb8062]

@@catandrobbyflores I would’ve paid money to see dark forest ashfur

[@animationtrash5389]

I literally cried reading Yellowfang’s Secret, she wasn’t happy being a medicine cat at all and just had to deal with it 💀

[@yeah2398]

Remember kids, starclan is perfectly fair towards every clan cat. (Edit: I'm extremely confused how the replies of this comment became a discussion about wolf packs)

[@jewelfyrenation]

Except when it comes to love for example.

[@bobraekevelt7953]

Yeah, its not corrupt at all (ehem Ashfur)

[@Mousemellow14]

clearly

[@jewelfyrenation]

Meds and leaders can't have kits? Like ik it's because meds and leaders have jobs where getting sick can put the clan in jeopardy but there are ways around that. Leaders have deputies and medicine cats have apprentices. Even if that isn't enough, clans should have two medicine cats instead of one at the very least. Also, assuming the deputy doesn't count, then the assistant leader should be the mate of the leader. I'm thinking of a wolf pack where there is the alpha male and alpha female. If the leader gets distracted by the children so much that they can't preform and vise versa then they should decide for themselves not to have kits themselves or they aren't fit to be a leader. The only forbidden love I actually get is love between opposing clanmates, like what Bluestar and Oakheart had, this is because it has similar consequences on the children that divorce has such as not being able to see both parents regularly, not to mention that there could be tension if cats from one clan tread on the territory of or steal prey from the other clan and both sides of the relationship have to fight each other or cant defend each other due to circumstances. Am I making sense?

[@bobraekevelt7953]

@@jewelfyrenation ...theres actually not really alphas in wolf packs, thats kinda made up theres just a leader like with loins. But I do agree for the rest

[@GOOSEFLAVORED]

THIS IS THE FUNNIEST FUCKING WARRIORS SHITPOST IVE SEEN IN A WHILE GODDD SCOURGE GETITNG CRUSHED FUCKING KILLED ME LMAO

[@TANGL3_BURR]

Apparently short cats aren't allowed in the Dark Forest either. Poor Scourge. XD (I'd honestly give up all of my warriors books to see Scourge as a spirit either haunting Barley or haunting the remaining cats of BloodClan wherever they are.)

[@pupkemu]

Also starclan: allows obsessive ex who tried to murder Squirrelflights adopted children in starclan

[@TheRainbowKeyboard-YT]

Actually, StarClan voted on whether he should be allowed in StarClan or be sent to the Dark Forest. He got to stay in StarClan by either 1, 2, or 3 votes. Some cats in StarClan still give him disgusted looks.

[@Ucatty2]

also helped in trying to murder her dad.

[@mysryuza]

Apparently having any hatred in your heart will automatically damn you, unless you say sorry, so you get can get off the hook and cause more havoc for those in the living realm because of same grudge or hatred.

[@thenyan3095]

Ah yes, it makes perfect sense It’s just stupid

[@Imreallybor3d]

This sounds weirdly like Christianity (I don't mean this in an offensive way, it's just that it reminds me of how God's forgiveness was explained in a Catholic video)

[@aaronking2020]

I know it'll never happen but I hope The Broken Code was only the like the prologue of the larger story of Starclan's downfall/serious change. Hopes for A Starless Clan

[@9nikola]

Considering the title of the next series, and the recently revealed blurb of its second book: "But at a time when the warrior code itself is shifting, no Clan is truly at peace… or truly safe", it seems the code will either keep changing for a while, or a big chunk of the series takes place within the 3 months following The Broken Code. Also, it seems just like how the first 4 series had an overarching plotline with Fire and Tiger, I'm going to guess the whole overarching plotline of ghosts and stars will be having 4 series as well. Obviously, The Broken Code and A Starless Clan would be part of that, and likely A Vision of Shadows as well, and as I doubt Dawn of the Clans would be part of it as it's sorta more of a spin-off, I think series 9 would be the ghosts and stars equivalent of Fire and Tiger's Omen of the Stars. We'll find out in about 3 years, I guess.

[@mooneatsworms]

starclan's greatest sin was not letting my comfort character into heaven

[@el-md6wf]

which one? i have multiple ccs in hell lol

[@mooneatsworms]

@@el-md6wf ant 💔

[@thenyan3095]

@@mooneatsworms yeah like what was up with that? He never murdered anycat on screen and he was being manipulated by the dark Forrest, how would that be his fault? Not to mention starclan doesn’t do shit to guide the df trainees in the right path yet when jaypaw is being cAuSuALLY ApRoAcHEd suddenly spotted leaf jumps up to protect him, bullshit if you ask me starclan has a huge bias problem and it pisses me off, looking at you cinderpelt

[@R-PGamerKing]

honestly i agree, antpelt was just a guy who ended up in the wrong place. in fact a lot of my favorites are the side characters who were dark forest trainees - characters like applefur, ratscar, blossomfall, mousewhisker, hollowflight, etc.

[@alyssabullock6421]

wait BRIGHTFLOWER is in DF too?! Bruh

[@soartearstudio]

Not anymore They took it back, it's basically a retcon now

[@kochiiim]

She is in the star clan

[@Elektricknight]

I mean the books did say that the dark forest has about the same amount of cats as starclan

[@Deerthedoe6842]

@@Elektricknight This makes no sense, tbh. Like... let's just compare to the first series as an example. Who went to Dark Forest? Not half of the clans for sure, not 1/3, not even 1/4.....

[@link12click]

@Moonfur bright flower

[@netherbrine8004]

Remember, Skystar killed so many cats and has a kill count thats almost the same length as Brokenstar. He only went to Starclan cuz he was a founder. He definitely deserved to rot in hell for all the things he did

[@SonarTheBat]

"But...but...he felt bad about it! That makes it okay!"-the Erins, probably.

[@netherbrine8004]

@@SonarTheBat I don't recall him showing any remorse

[@fishsticks1312]

@@SonarTheBat*Also he’s a man.*

[@mightyleafster]

It’s so ridiculous how they sent frecklewish in the dark forest yet rainflower gets starclan?

[@katkot8262]

Also appledusk How the fuck is frecklewish more deserving to go to hell than appledusk? Neither of them truly deservr it, but i'd say that aplledusk deserves it more.

[@howdy_rylee5934]

are YOU ACTUALLY SERIOUS???!

[@mightyleafster]

@@howdy_rylee5934 yep they sent frecklewish in the dark forest

[@oli1733]

And of course, Assfur.

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

And Furzepelt, who was nothing but a fucking asshole in life. She has no afterlife confirmed in the wiki but since we didn't see her anywhere in the Dark Forest...yeah, she probably went to StarClan despite doing nothing to deserve it.

[@crowblossom06]

Hell if StarClan wanted to help any manipulated cats the only Dark Forest cats would be like Mapleshade. Not Hawkfrost. And Ashfur went into StarClan because he “loved too much” or something. He threatened Squirrelflight’s “kits” during the fire since he was angry over Squilf’s rejection. He was angry for the rest of his life over a rejection. StarClan my favorite Clan.

[@suugiart]

I love Starclan. They totally treat everyone the way they deserve.

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

And seriously, when you think about it, letting Ashfur into StarClan led to the ENTIRETY of The Broken Code. Maybe Ashfur would've still found a way into Bramblestar's body from the Dark Forest but the way the books we have are written, StarClan did nothing to prevent Ashfur from slipping back to the living world and then did nothing to save Bramblestar or the Clans until a boatload of cats were Ashfur's puppets and StarClan itself was almost destroyed. Thanks for destroying any likability Yellowfang still had, Erins!

[@crowblossom06]

@@graphitetailgrace3870 Yellowfang was one of my favorites in the first arc but then she wasn’t even Yellowfang anymore. I hated this part so much

[@LocalLazyStove]

Something that I notice is that any character that has become basically a StarClan cat has just suddenly lost their original selves, Yellowfang used to be so wise but grumpy yet patient but once she in StarClan she’s now a desperate and possibly manipulative cat (I’m looking at you Leafpool wish and Bramblestar storm) and don’t get me started that scene in Squirrelflight hope where both sister are basically being judge and almost sent to the dark forest because of Leafpool broke two rules of the code and for Squirrelflight lying to her mate about the kits are made me so mad and I’m not gonna explain why this scene made me so mad because it’s pretty much obvious

[@Parasolhyena]

@@LocalLazyStove Broke two rules that starclan explicitly told her were okay to break.

[@Dao7080]

Didn't expect that Starclan had an "must be this tall to enter" sign But fr tho, not only they sent Brightflower (grieving mother who thought her daughter killed her kits) or Lilywhisker (An disabled cat being upset for being retired too early) to the DF... But the fact that; They even literally sent Stumpytail (Brokenstar's apprentice and Clawface's son) in there too?? When Stumpytail?? Was actually being mistreated by his own mentor, and was JUST DOING WHAT HIS "MENTOR" TOLD HIM TO DO EVEN THOUGH BROKENSTAR IS LIKE- STRAIGHT UP MANIPULATED HIM. SO WHY TF IS STUMPYTAIL BEING SENT THERE

[@soartearstudio]

Starclan: **SHHHOOOOORT PEOPLE WILL NOT GO TO HEAVEN** Kits that died: 👁👄👁

[@gatito.8519]

hopefully they're writing this bullshit on purpose so that there can be a big revolution against starclan and justice can be served bc this is ridiculous lmao

[@twist_ending7545]

I hope so

[@theaveragecomment1014]

I don't think so, in a article about the decision on Freckle'Wish they said they agreed with Starclan's decision. I've lost all respect for the website team at this point. (Edit: I don't think they originally wrote it with that specific purpose but there probably will be a revolution against Starclan.)

[@minkstar9021]

Considering Kate was once asked should the code be changed and she answered no, I don’t think the writers see the problems we see.

[@alyssabullock6421]

I would LOVE the series to end in a war AGAINST Starclan. That'd be so good

[@KingJaxsony]

The fact that Frecklewish was sent to the dark forest for reasonably turning on mapleshade (who betrayed her AND Birchface) But Appledusk who CHEATED on Mapleshade and turned her back on her AND his OWN KITS gets to go to starclan.

[@Idkidc2173]

Even Appledusk didn't do anything wrong. His mates never mentioned that he had two partners at once is something bad (literally throughout the book there is no wording that Maple bothers that Apple will have children with another cat, the only thing she accuses him of is the death of children, and it wasn't even his fault), so in the world of warrior it's probably normal (Whitestorm also had two mates and this was tolerated, another proof that having more than one mate is okay in warriors).

[@mapleheart3917]

@@Idkidc2173 but it’s not cannon that Whitestorm had two mates? Also it does mention that reedshine was actually so far in the pregnancy that appledusk had to be with her when he was with mapleshade, therefore he is a cheater, both of the she-cats didn’t know he was seeing the other one. (Also this isn’t defending mapleshade’s actions, I’m just talking about appledusk)

[@netherbrine8004]

Appledusk risked his life and threw himself in front of Reedshine to protect her from Mapleshade, yet he threw Mapleshade under the bus as a heartless cow, blaming her for everything when he said he loved her not even an hour ago just to save himself. In all honesty, he prob should of joined Mapleshade in the Dark Forest.

[@Parasolhyena]

@@Idkidc2173 Arguably he did more wrong then Frecklewish, the fact that the timelines show he was either cheating on maple or his wife because they both had children so close together and neither knew about the other.(whitestorm has never actually been confirmed to have 2 mates plus the fact that if he did they probably both knew about each other and he did not cheat.) He also blamed Maple for the death of the kits solely. I'm not saying he shouldn't be in starclan though but he did a lot worse then Frecklewish.

[@thenyan3095]

@@netherbrine8004 are you forgetting that HE SAVED HER AS WELL IN THE RIVER?? If he hated her so much he would of just let her drown, but no he didn’t because he’s over exaggerated to be worse than he actually is by people who haven’t read the book in years He chose his loyalty over his love, why is that such an issue for you? Leafpool chose her clan over crow feather, bluestar chose her clan over her kits and oak heart, HECK dovewing initially chose her clan over tiger heart before changing her Mind in tiger hearts shadow, and suddenly appledusk gets called out for it?

[@rosinlapsi]

0:19 all of the wholesome short oc's:・ᴥ・

[@shim64]

me:

[@thenyan3095]

ROSIN 😠 *overly-dramatic sting* /lh /nm

[@rosinlapsi]

@@thenyan3095 ouch :( Nyan you didn't have to do that today 😭 /lh

[@WinglessCanary]

So why is RAINFLOWER in starclan from what I see? 😭 that brat hated her own son for having a broken jaw and treated him terribly for it, and she never showed any signs of not hating him anymore when she died. If feeling hate was enough to send someone to the dark forest why isnt RAINFLOWER THERE

[@WinglessCanary]

@SATURN13 that would make sense considering raggedstar also got into starclan despite being cruel towards his mate and trying to control her. Starclans logic is basically just "hey lets forgive cats we like and not forgive cats we dont like, even if the cats we don't like never did anything worthy of the dark forest :D"

[@Parasolhyena]

I think in cannon once she died she saw all the cruelty she did to her son or something they kind of just hand waved that because she's back with her mate and loves both her son's now. I really think darkforest should be a somewhat temporary place, if cats can show redemption they should be allowed into starclan.

[@Thewavedemonjackal]

@@Parasolhyena I wish. Even though spoilers for a light in the mist: I think Grey wing or another starclan cat said, that once you’ve been sentenced to the dark forest, that’s it. Actions or anything in death don’t matter. Basically these cats have no hope for redemption. Which I think kinda sucks. Snowtuft gave his second life trying to save starclan and trying to redeem himself only for starclan to dismiss his sacrifice and the risks taken by all the other dark forest cats

[@LocalLazyStove]

Honestly that me rage so hard, like *wtf* so basically no matter what you do to redeem yourself for the better, your are stuck in a endless torture that is the Dark forest, that f up so many levels like if I was a StarClan cat and I witnessed a cat that is a Dark forest cat that actually redeem themselves for the better by basically saving me from the destruction of StarClan or my death or just doing good stuff, I would just let that cat in StarClan cause that cat did redeem themselves for the better, now that I think about does the “You stay forever in this place” thing also apply to StarClan? Like if a cat is sent to StarClan but later on has proven to be unworthy to be in StarClan like Ashfur so they stay in StarClan still because once they enter there their forever? Spirit lore is so confusing in Warrior cats…

[@Thewavedemonjackal]

@@LocalLazyStove I agree. That’s messed up. Like, with ashfur, they acknowledged that letting him into starclan was a mistake, even though his last actions before death were threatening to kill three cats and then planning on going to a gathering to announce that the kids were the product of an illegal affair. But when a cat who has been forced to suffer for so long they don’t even remember what for and then gives their spirit to save you, you don’t even think that cat is worth acknowledgment in any way?

[@patchezz5363]

It’s ok, remember when they said that sending a cat to the dark forest was a long delicious that they thought deeply about?

[@twist_ending7545]

DELICIOUS??

[@nxghtmaremsp]

what's a long delicious-

[@idknamesarehard7119]

Decision?

[@faithfulfeather5977]

Im sorry im dying wheeze Long whAt

[@PatchworkRose567]

I will never understand the logic behind letting Ashfur into Starclan yet Juniperclaw was sent to the Dark Forest. Ashfur helped Hakfrost attempt to kill Firestar, he almost killed the three, and fully intended on telling the clans about Squirrelflight’s lie. All of that just to hurt a cat who dated you for a bit only to realize another cat was better for her and he obviously never felt any remorse. Juniperclaw got sent to cat hell bc he poisoned some fresh kill because he genuinely thought he was doing what Starclan wanted and after he realized his wrongdoings he did everything to make up his mistakes, even saving Shadowkit and getting himself killed in the process yet the most Starclan does after he also helped save them from their own mistake is promote him to Dark Forest bouncer.

[@AkutagawaDog]

An elder who became grumpy and died: "I'm going to StarClan, right?" StarClan: "..." The elder: "Right...?"

[@ristoeinola8951]

I'm pretty sure cats outside the clans don't go to either, even though they float around somewhere, cats like Scourge won't be going into neither of em.

[@twist_ending7545]

@SATURN13 cats outside the Clans have their own afterlife by Starclan and the tribe of endless hunting. Ravenpaw is there

[@beastmaster0934]

And yet Darktail shows up in the Dark Forest at one point.

[@alyssabullock6421]

It's not really known where rouges would go. But Kittypets are confirmed to go to another afterlife, likely where their twolegs will be. Jake, for instance, was able to guide Tallstar to Starclan. But he couldnt join him

[@Dorygravy]

Did you know: you will not go to starclam

[@Imreallybor3d]

oH nOoOo

[@crazycreaturestudios]

This is why, If I wrote a warriors book, Starclan would be the villain. They’re just hypocritical and therefore unfair. It’s dumb.

[@teacoon6399]

A reminder that Appledusk still went to Starclan despite having kits outside of the clan and fucking a cat in his own clan to cover his ass + Rainflower who emotionally abused Crookedstar and Lizardstripe who emotionally abused Brokenstar and turned him into what he was because of her constant mocking and bullying.

[@twist_ending7545]

Yeahh

[@puppydogs68]

Wow StarClan is so fair and amazing. 🥰

[@MinkiBlue]

Scourge... just, I'm going to be laughing about that all day. That was superb...

[@animefanmapleshadetheacele567]

Yes 🤣😂

[@duckk182]

Scourge did not believe in the Star Clan, as well as in The Place of No Stars, therefore, he did not fall into the Star Clan, not into The Place of No Stars Sorry, but I'm Russian. And I can't explain it clearly.

[@orionskittles]

@@duckk182 that’s not the point of the comment. The point is Scourge getting crushed in the video was funny

[@xxpeachywarriorxx6911]

Why… Is… this…. FUNNY! So many cats that deserve StarClan go to the Dark Forest and the other way around.

[@-.starfilled_galaxy.-]

“Short people will not go to StarClan!” Me: Oh well I guess I’m in hell

[@lemonstarr..]

me too bro 💀

[@mochie2517]

JUNIPERCLAW IS IN THE DARK FOREST I SWEAR TO GOD

[@thenyan3095]

He is? IM-

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

@@thenyan3095 THEY LITERALLY DENIED HIM A PLACE IN STARCLAN SO NOW HE'S THE DARK FOREST DOORCAT

[@thenyan3095]

@@graphitetailgrace3870 *straight up leaves this room*

[@nathanielmandrake1500]

Lilywhisker and Brightflower being in the DF is no longer considered canon, it was information made up by Su Susanne (a super fan Vicky used to support before she took all of it back) and all of Su’s former information is no longer canon. Just a reminder cause I saw comments about it c:

[@suugiart]

LMAO FRECKLEWISH?? BECAUSE SHE GOT MAD AT MAPLESHADE LIKE ANYONE ELSE WOULD IF YOU BETRAYED THE TRUST OF YOUR CLAN? Starclan is very, VERY fair.

[@mightyleafster]

Yeah they sent frecklewish to the dark forest it's ridiculous

[@LocalLazyStove]

I just hope this is just another stupid retcon like what happen to Lilywhisker and Brightflower- if it’s not…. Erins what are you doing

[@suugiart]

@@LocalLazyStove I think the Erins have officially lost it.

[@puppydogs68]

Tbh I think Frecklewish going to the DF is deserved because she technically broke the warrior code by not helping those kits. Even if they don’t belong to the same clan as you, you have to help kits in need. But then again, MANY characters have broken the code before and go to StarClan like nothing happened, so that’s not a good argument either. Honestly, the whole DF/SC stituation in Warriors isn’t about if you’re good or bad, it’s about whether you have plot armor or not. 😂

[@suugiart]

@@puppydogs68 LMAO yeah. She was needlessly hateful toward kits who had nothing to do with what Mapleshade and Appledusk did, so that could contribute. Plot armour is definitely the best explanation and I don't know how to feel about how true that is. Erins, please make stuff make sense again.

[@HoneyScripter]

Too perfect I wish I had the talent to do this

[@unfinishedlaundry5244]

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO TALKS ABOUT ANTPELT AND SNOWTUFT, THEY WERE INOCCENT LITTLE CATS, THEY DIDNT EVEN FIGHT ON THE DARK FORESTS SIDE WHEN THE BATTLE CAME

[@abc-qh5fc]

Reminder that they sent Lilywhisker to the df for being disabled

[@mightyleafster]

Ah yes, Starclan is "amazing"

[@animefanmapleshadetheacele567]

LillyWhisker*?

[@mightyleafster]

@SATURN13 I want starclan to absolutely get called out for their bull crap

[@bugbytes]

@@animefanmapleshadetheacele567 lilly is a name, lily is a flower

[@animefanmapleshadetheacele567]

@@bugbytes um ik I was correcting spelling

[@a.kitcat.b]

At this point they are just adding cats because they needed the fight against Starclan and the Clans to be more fair...just make the darkforest cats harder to kill...or y'know...rehabilitate the darkforest cats? Or just...y'know...make cats without backstories evil. Literally there are so many cats you can make evil. Like geez!!

[@TigerSwipes]

"So and so was put into the Dark Forest for being filled with hatred" Ashfur: Hey guys I wasn't being hateful no no what me??? You've got me all wrong

[@twist_ending7545]

Yellowfang: yeah he's just so full of love I had to let him in.

[@WarriorLionstripe]

He was filled with too much love, one could say.

[@cringeworthy4755]

Me after the Broken Code : Idkw but whenever I see or hear StarClan mentioned in or outside the Warriors fandom, I just feel this rage building inside of me 🌋

[@uncannyeeveestar]

“Short people will not go to StarClan” Wait does that mean Squirrelflight won’t go to StarClan 😭

[@TundraTheSnep]

She's not short 0-0

[@coyote3836]

Sometimes it’s ok to ignore canon

[@twist_ending7545]

Eh, really just for these

[@cringeworthy4755]

Short ppl shall not be allowed in heaven. Littlecloud: *clears throat*

[@The_Tigers_show]

"Short people will not go to heaven!!" Snowkit: i'm a joke to you?!

[@amystill8219]

S O S A Y I T H T H E *E R I N ' S ! ! ! ! ! !*

[@silverfire1248]

Bruh. Out of all of the Mapleshade’s Vengeance cats, Frecklewish, Reedshine, and the kits are literally the three who deserve the DF the absolute least. Oakstar and Ravenwing exiled fucking kits, and Appledusk was an icky cheater.

[@starzandstones1742]

i agree on this but we cant do anything about this but hey i guess this is why aus excist but still!

[@ferxani1473]

please don't forget that *starclan themselves* sent an omen to ravenwing to tell him that the kits were appledusk's. It was his job to tell oakstar about it. It was all on oakstar to exile mapleshade, not ravenwing

[@mightyleafster]

@@ferxani1473 this ^^

[@starzandstones1742]

​@@ferxani1473 ah forgot about that but still maybe oakstar shouldnt have exiled the kits ravenwing just did his job any other medicine cat would have done the same it would only be diffrent for other medicine cats they tell their leaders like spottedleaf told bluestar she would probally make mapleshade stay in camp till shes proven trust worthy and make her clean the elders den and the kits are fine because its not their fault mapleshade chose appledusk as a mate plus she probally would exile her because of the thing with oakheart and everyone deserves a second chance but the only real bad guys in mapleshades vengence is number 1 oakstar he exiled her thats fine but small kits not so much and number 2 mapleshade i mean half the books about her killing cats number 3 is appledusk some can say hes good but he cheated ot deserving of going to the dark forest but still pretty bad theres also frecklewish but shes good she just attacked during the moment when she found out the kits werent birchfaces when she asked directly and mapleshade lied she also was gonna apologies before mapleshade kinda killed her i wonder why she went their so your right whoops my bad ravenwing a good boy but oakstars still bad very bad why isnt he in the dark forest sorry i just have a grudge on him for BANISHING kits c= alright off to draw some cats

[@silverfire1248]

@@ferxani1473 I mean. Fair enough, but he did just kind of sit there stoically while the kits were exiled. He deserves it much less than Oakstar tbh. But I wouldn’t mind just going “blame starclan” for his actions either.

[@WC.WCUE_Fan4Life]

Short people will not go to heaven!kits:HUH?!

[@grimmcorvid5713]

YEa this sums up Warrior cats wonderfully!

[@Echofrost5]

This is good! But now none of us will go to StarClan since you’ve exposed them 😂

[@d_styt0es650]

I’m not even this far in the series and somehow I understand this (ex: StarClan, Place of No Stars). I also find this funny for some reason.

[@6H05T_]

Remember kids star clan definitely arent cruel and evil and biased and leading a giant wood cult

[@doveydeath]

Starclan throws cats in the dark forest for minor crimes while they literally tried to get a father to kill his innocent kit before he had done anything.

[@lavenderlaceration]

My personal headcanon is that the only reason Hawkfrost went to the dark forest in the first place despite having died before killing anyone is because starclan is biased against Tigerstars kin ✌️. I could go on a really long rant about why I think Hawk deserved a second chance but I'll hold my tongue unless provoked 😌

[@dreamiinotdream730]

StarClan just holds unfair bias towards everyone

[@meowwum]

hawkfrost was my favorite DF cat >:(( starclan was unfair towards him istg

[@thenyan3095]

I mean, trying to kill firestar and emotionally manipulating his sister are definitely hell worthy- it’s not like he was emotionally unstable and not able to think straight or grieving over anyone (I mean you could argue he was greying over sasha but my point remains) but if fuckin assfur gets a place there then there’s no question that hawkfrost should go there too

[@lavenderlaceration]

@@meowwum SERIOUSLY! It's not his fault his only kin/friend/parental figure was his dad :( he was being manipulated like all the other DF cats and honestly deserved a second chance. He didn't have anyone else to talk to or steer him away from Tigerstar, his brother died, his mom left, Feathertail left then died, Mothwing got distant after the fake sign incident, his half brother left and then killed him, he really had no one else. He turned to and was manipulated by his last family member who seemed to care and then was killed and sent to hell without even a second thought. What else could he do but submit to the agression of the dark forest and turn full villain mode? It was this or die and I honestly feel so bad for him. Even in hell he seemed to legitimately care for Ivypool, personally I think it's because he related to the feeling of being left out and ignored by ever, and then she left him too! In his last moments Hawkfrost lost the last person who he felt really cared for him and my whole heart goes out to the guy

[@lavenderlaceration]

@@thenyan3095 exactly! I'm not arguing he was perfect, not even that he was a good person, I'm arguing that he should have had a second chance. I think what he did was awful but I really think most of it was due to Tigerstar whispering in his ear the whole time. I think if he had the chance and had positive influences in his life he could genuinely make a good change but most of this is speculation on my part. Here's my train of thought, it'll probably be long I'm sorry he's just my favorite character lol. We never really get inside his head but we do get into Brambleclaw and Lionblaze's heads. Both of them went along with Tigerstar until an outside force gave them a wake-up call that what they were doing was bad. Hawkfrost literally had no one to give him that wake up call. His mother left, mother figure left and died, brother died, half brother left, and his sister didn't believe in starclan so she wouldn't believe him about his Tigerstar visits. Instead of being told he's too violent he was encouraged by his mentor (ex the fox scene in a shadow in riverclan) and clanmates so he probably thought he was in the right. When squirrelflight accuses Hawkfrost of being evil, Brambleclaw defends him, in my mind partially because after training he realized the kind of person Hawk was, ambitious and a bit ruthless but doing what he thinks is best for everyone, and partially because he's self conscious about his parentage (Say what you want about that whole issue, this is just my take on it). I think he tried to kill Firestar because years of manipulation from his father and only friend made him truly believe this was the best possible thing. Again, that doesn't make attempted murder alright in the slightest, but I really think if he was given the chance to redeem himself and good influences he could change and be a better person. My main thought is he should have been given a sort of temporary starclan stay to see if he could legitimately change, if that's what he wanted. And even if all my speculation is wrong and he's just a shitty person he should still go to Starclan if Ashfur did because compared to Ash he was an angel.

[@baguette7073]

All the short people who are sadly not going to heaven, let's gather here and pray for growth

[@NeoMagicStar]

And this is why I still believe Sol was 100% right

[@bluejay4560]

I always knew those Starclan cats were on something…

[@_exolite]

Basically starclan

[@TANGL3_BURR]

Brightflower: Yellowfang, did you kill your siblings? Yellowfang: No. Brokenstar: Exile.

[@Fauxbird]

I fucking love how the pixels are added to this LMAO

[@millicentwood549]

Having read Light in the Mist right before, this made me cry laugh.

[@Silly_Dizzy_kitty]

Ig I’m never going to heaven, I’m fine with that.

[@WC.WCUE_Fan4Life]

SO SAYETH THE LORD(ERIN HUNTER)

[@Omg-wm4nu]

Churches in the 17th century be like:

[@C6BaizhuHaver]

I will never forgive Erin for what they did to my boy, SnowTuft

[@Corpse701]

if cats with hate in their heart don't go to starclan why did stonefur go if he was still mad at blackstar for killing him.

[@mataschmata]

obviously frecklewish went to the dark forest by choice so she could be with her evil gf

[@vonkittywhiskers8731]

"It's cool babe I forgive you for murdering me with snakes, let's cuddle."

[@leom8971]

The turning point of their relationship is when one of them lets loose a small negative comment about Riverclan that spirals into hours long conversation where they end up gossiping and smack talking them, especially Appledusk.

[@FabulaRuan]

I think this video is much better than the original audio, it hits much stronger and I love it. Great job

[@Wolfie37283]

“Short people!! Will, Not, Go, To, Heaven” Well… time to fight the devil I guess.

[@cottonwillow2820]

This is beautiful lmao, thank you for this.

[@art-n-animals6724]

Don't forget how they let ashfur in cat heaven

[@DiamondTheFairy]

Knowing that Scourge most likely just disappeared because he didn’t believe in starclan makes me wonder what would have happened if he did. He would obviously go to the dark forest but during that war or whatever (I haven’t gotten to that part yet so I wouldn’t know.) everyone would’ve been screwed 💀.

[@M4pl3_Sn0w]

“Short people will not go to heaven” Well I guess I’m going to hell

[@Lylaris_or_Garuk]

(Is slightly perturbed by kitten) Starclan: *fatal mistake*

[@glue_tastes_good5528]

you won't go to starclan for that

[@redlinemiles]

you deserve so much more subscribers, your content is awesome

[@OnlyLonelyHamster]

As a short person i can confirm i did not go to starclan

[@Darkdino666_MK]

“SHORT PPPL WO’NT GI TO HAVEN” Me: *being short* Okay cool :D

[@Sigma_rat_]

“Short people will not go to heaven!” The entire population of Indonesia: 🫥

[@hahahahalmaoookid621]

“Short people will not go the heaven!!” Me: *well there i go, down to hell-*

[@filmfox2969]

“Short people will not go to heaven!” Scourge: *triggered*

[@ephemeralmoon414]

The clan of stars only choose cats: beautiful, kittens, leaders, protectors and old to go to heaven

[@seeker4924]

Okay but do we actually know WHY Snowtuft is in there tho? He could be more egregious than Mapleshade herself but we don't _know_ that, so he kinda feels like a cop out mention. Everyone else makes sense though

[@silberrrcat]

idk i just like him lol

[@WarriorLionstripe]

Kate Cary, or at least one of the Erins, did mention that they do want a Snowtuft novella or special edition. The addition of him being in The Broken Code, and the small teases of his past, could very well have just been them teasing at the possibility of more stories based on Snowtuft; which I wouldn’t be surprised actually happening since Snowtuft’s popularity grew after his reintroduction in A Place of No Stars after disappearing into obscurity after the events of The Last Hope.

[@icecreamthemaltese2202]

And yet ASHFUR got into StarClan 💀

[@seikotheserval5341]

" PEOPLE WHO SHORT WILL NOT GO TO HEAVEN" me: * dying inside * hey how ya doing I'm fine I'm lie I'm dying inside~

[@Toxic_43]

Everyone rn: * dark forest*

[@littlelemon3465]

I absolutely had to sub, this was too good

[@jillsmith3128]

i think that mapleshade should have gone to starclan. why? she wanted to get revenge for her kits.... AND THEY THROW HER IN THE DARKFOREST FOR BEING A TRUAMATISED MOTHER! its messed up i swear starclan needs an actual judge.... LIKE A COURTROOM TO SEE IF YOUR INCONNET AND JUST LOST YOUR MIND! what i cant get over is how they let ashfur into starclan???? he was so called said: "loyal to his clan" HE TRIED TO KILL THE LEADERS DUAGHTER! with her adopted kits...... how is that "Loyal"? im amazed ashfur hasn't gone to the darkforest he is litterly MIND CONTROLING BRAMBLESTAR WHO IS SUPPOSE TO BE DEAD BY NOW! he is sooooo old he is flippin 131 moons old... 10.9 years old in human years.... i would understand more IF ashfur was more merciful and never mind controled Bramblestar.. reason why i think its messed up is because he could live a happy life in starclan but desides to come back and hurt someone even more??? im sorry if ashfur lovers see this but i really am not a fan of the erins placing him as a starclan cat? i mean he is ASKING to go to the darkforest over being overdramatic of a relationship that happend a while ago that did not work out? like in my opinion hes overdramatic and annoying... ((sorry to fans whom love or hate one of these charaters i had to vent about my opinions before i explode-))

[@BlitzChanSaysHi]

My version People with tattoos cannot go to Heaven (Frecklewish, Halftail, Brightheart, Maggottail and One-eye have left the chat) People with weed in their name cannot go to Heaven (Weedwhisker and Milkweed have left the chat) People who take steroids cannot go to Heaven (All cats that trained in the Dark Forest have left the chat) People who eat their kids at 3am cannot go to Heaven (Brightflower, Rainflower and Lizardstripe have left the chat) People who don’t even have lore cannot go to Heaven (All minor Dark Forest cats have left the chat) And people who have too much kids cannot go to Heaven (Snowbird, Ferncloud, Sorreltail, and Cinderheart have left the chat)

[@PASTEALmuderXV]

We shoukd if named the cat demons outpaws

[@Melosketch426]

I scrolled past this too fast and i thought it said "can we go to shitclan?" HELP

[@lynxfangr]

You forgot the windclan gal, Lily something

[@squidzo_syd]

This is GORGEOUS

[@Sonaria_Documentaries]

Ashfur: am I a joke to u, Lilywhisker?

[@Misscouchpotato-]

My favorite audio lol

[@tigerpeltofwindclan8431]

Why Is This So Funny XD

[@sunpeltanimations65]

That was amazing. 🤣

[@amiecrowsong]

It is so funny because it is no lie!

[@rosewood3454]

Ah...I see my shortened height is now backfiring, goodbye