Can we name these Astros/Rangers players ONLY by their stats?

[@bodavis4545]

Jake blind guessing Carlos Lee. Jake is HIM

[@vidowatcher91]

"This guy is Spanish, I see it in his numbers. Oh, Carlos, Carlos Lee!" 😂😂😂 how Joez, how?!😂😂😂

[@6thwilbury2331]

Seriously... that was insane. Back when Trivial Pursuit was popular, we had one friend who just took forever answering questions. He'd ponder and ponder, as if the answer was suddenly gonna come to him. But every now and then, it did. So he might be in the tank for five full minutes, we finally call the clock on him. "5... 4...3... 2..." "Oh! It's Henry Cabot Lodge!" "Dude, WTF"

[@Catboysanji]

Jake blind guessing 2 in a row is wild

[@Waldo2929]

Thinking of 31 career home run hitter DeWayne Wise when looking at Carlos Lee's stat page is hilarious

[@Sulfur212]

Also thinking Jermaine Dye wasn't close to Carlos Lee in home runs lol

[@SoCarBravesFan]

Dalton: “All of them with the Metsss…” That had me rolling.

[@aidanorsted743]

You guys should try creating fake baseball reference pages and get the guys to guess whether it's a real player or not.

[@nicholaso4302]

I’m honestly not trying to be rude but that’s a bad idea

[@Bobbyshaw39]

Honestly that sounds sick

[@kalebstuckey570]

Dumb

[@elevatewithoutlimits]

Dumb idea 😂😂😂

[@jgray2718]

That sounds impossible. I liked the one where Jolly deleted the 2020's, though, that was cool, so I like changing it up a little. There's definitely some room for innovation.

[@eoghbass2886]

No one even guessing Bagwell is wild. Dude has the 4th highest career WAR for first baseman.

[@themightydew]

I think that his drastic/fast decline puts him out of people's thoughts.

[@harrisonbaylor1432]

@@themightydewthat’s the crazy part. He really only played 14 seasons and is still 4th all time at first base. If he had not had his issues with arthritis and ended up playing till he was 40 he would have had 500 homeruns and near 100 war. That would make him a household name but your right, the early retirement makes it to where people just don’t think of him enough.

[@maxbolon3143]

He’s actually 6th in war atleast on baseball reference. It goes Gehrig, pujols, cap anson, Jimmie foxx, Roger Connor, and then bagwell. Anson and Connor did play in the 1800’s so I understand not including them. Johnny mize would likely be 5th if he didn’t miss 3+ seasons due to ww2 though.

[@amichak123]

I know, I knew immediately on both bagwell and pudge. Bagwell had his shoulder issues in 04 and 05 plus he didn't hit well in the world series at DH/PH. So I think if you are under 40 or so he's not remembered as the MVP who was a 5 war guy or close for 11 years straight. Also he's a big walks guy and that's value no one remembers who isn't a fan of his team.

[@eoghbass2886]

@@maxbolon3143thanks for the correction. The website I used to fact check didn’t include Anson or Connor so it must’ve only been showing me live-ball era guys.

[@andypandy2560]

muttered wandy rodriguez to myself when jake was doing a blind guess for hard and just sat here for a minute shocked

[@KTF0]

Man, Nolan walked a ton of guys

[@Christian-qg9jh]

A random Kirk Saarloos reference from Jake is almost as crazy as two blind guesses

[@iamjp1]

even considering dewayne wise as a possibility for carlos lee is insane😂31 career homers

[@dzisman99]

Jeff Bagwell was my favorite player growing up. The bonus round had me yelling at my screen!

[@lamonszorro]

Just wanted to say Jolly you're doing a great job hosting these 😊

[@timyac]

I couldn’t think of the Ranger but I knew it was Bagwell immediately. Seems like a lot of people don’t realize that he was a lot more than a power hitter.

[@sethshort8686]

Damn I can't believe nobody guessed Bagwell. In my mind there wasn't a debate, Bags did it all.

[@peterharris6409]

Got Carlos Lee not looking at the screen just hearing the first person list the team names. 10 seconds without looking I knew the answer, no lies. He was so good. Unforgettable

[@nicholaso4302]

Bagwell was my first immediate thought

[@daltonfeely]

I love that I throw fun throwback names like DeWayne Wise and Travis Lee out there for some fun and some of you guys get mad lmaoo have some fun and enjoy the video guys haha!

[@CriticalCure13]

I always find the comments incongruently serious with the clear fun-and-games vibes you guys put forth. As always, appreciate the content!

[@jonathanlarosa1801]

i had no idea pudgy was YOLKED like that

[@tayloroleary8880]

DeWayne Wise? Did Dalton make a bet he'd work his name into this ep?

[@anth9845]

Right? If you told me Wise even had anywhere near 100 home runs in his career I wouldn't believe you.

[@tayloroleary8880]

@@anth9845 it's in the 30s I believe lol

[@justinfowich6662]

Dalton started butchering White Sox lore at 5:16.

[@sweatswithcruise]

Should do an episode similar to this, on guys who have played in the same state on ALL teams of/in SAID state (any state) Might be tough to find players that fit the mold but I think that’d be cool

[@drewiiz6220]

Forgot Wandy was a Ranger . Watched him a lot vs and with the Pirates as they are my second team (Go Guardians) . But the rest of the page made sense for him. And that Trivia question was hard as hell. I like it we need more hard players as well and trivia.

[@redasdu84]

I got Bagwell but had no clue that Pudge had that much WAR for the Rangers

[@baileysmith4744]

it always suprirses me to find out Biggio played 6 more years than Bagwell did because Bagwell leads in everything for the Astros. Pudge for Texas was the hard part to that question

[@griffinhays2053]

I think Pudge played for so long and for so many other teams that it's insanely easy to forget he played 13 years for Texas. Not to mention literally all of his team success coming elsewhere

[@philipross7183]

Need more of these extra hard ones it was the most entertaining seeing them think and not get it right away

[@welcomebackpotter722]

Pudge is so criminally underrated. dude wasn't super super elite but did everything at a high level

[@DaBaltimoron]

Man won an MVP

[@ryanbasketball4628]

Did not have a guess for Texas might’ve gotten pudge if I needed to, but Bagwell was obvious to me?

[@thedoor43]

I thought of Pudge immediately

[@schlootle]

Man i loved Wandy Rodriguez, but it was a bit funny that he was our ace during those dumpster years

[@willpsone]

Can't believe the Astros WAR leader wasn't anyone's first guess, while he had big traditional counting stat numbers my understanding has always been that advanced metrics have always rated him even higher

[@harrisonbaylor1432]

The trivia question should have been easy for the Astros half but the Rangers half is a bit harder since they don’t have any guy who has just played their entire career there. I think if they thought it through a little more or thought about how much people were saying Bagwell needed to be in the hall of fame before he got in they would have got it. Lack of seasons but he was a monster. One of the highest in war at first base despite only playing 15 seasons (really 14, his last season he barely played) The Rangers is hard because their three big guys Pudge, Palmeiro, and Beltre each only played roughly half their career in Texas. So just knowing who was there the longest off the top of your head is the hard part. I got the Ranger part wrong because I was just guessing at who was there long enough. All great guys though.

[@dougburbank6410]

Also, catchers always end up with deceptively low war. My first thought was Pudge but I wondered if being a catcher would ding him too much

[@harrisonbaylor1432]

@@dougburbank6410 yup same here. I’d didn’t give him much thought till they mentioned someone being a good defender which would help their war.

[@j66gv]

How does nobody know Jeff Bagwell?

[@guywhoneversleeps]

because biggio exists

[@BillyJohnson-ll8ee]

Mo Vaughn might be the worst guess of all time considering he played for both Boston and the Mets, and the Angels.. None of those teams were listed

[@pizzaberry456]

Next episode should only be under 5 10 players

[@6thwilbury2331]

Great last question. I also thought Biggio because I figured the position difference between a C/2B vs. 1B would make him some stealth choice. Texas is a tough one no matter what because there are so few players who stayed there for a long time. All of the best Rangers had a lot of quality years elsewhere: A-Rod, Pudge, Gonzalez, Palmeiro, Buddy Bell, Beltre. I guessed Juan Gone simply because it feels like he tailed off soon after he left. Looks like his glove lowered his value, though.

[@TheAmazingallan]

It's a famous thing by this point that Bagwell was significantly better than Biggio even if Biggio was more iconic. I'm shocked no one get him right.

[@Shaninski23]

I had Bagwell and Pudge right away. I'm surprised Jake was the only one to mention him. I think people forget about Bagwell's speed as well. He was a total package player really. Had a gold glove. Won an MVP. Played basically his whole career in Houston and was absolutely scary to face in any of those years really. .948 career OPS.

[@TheNEpatriotsrule1]

Blind guessed Nolan Ryan, but the blind guess on Carlos Lee was INSANE.

[@jamesbartholomew7664]

as soo. as Carlos Lee popped up I could hear Karl Ravech yelling "El Caballo!" during the baseball, tonight highlights from when i was a kid

[@aran8143]

PA Ref guess next pleeeaaase Jolly

[@buiesportscards5122]

Blind guesses before starting the vid. Easy: Nolan Ryan Medium: Carlos Gomez Hard: Richard Hidalgo 1/3 isn’t bad, would’ve loved to see Gomez and Hidalgo get some refguess love though

[@dylanlenn7836]

so many great things this episode but "why is everybody an Astro" wins it for me

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

Apparently the youngs do not know how good Bagwell was. His numbers are insane

[@willpsone]

Which is crazy because he and Biggio almost completely overlapped. Did those two extra years at the end for Biggio really leave that big of an impression?

[@dougburbank6410]

​@@willpsoneyeah basically not a single year where Biggio was better than Bagwell.

[@glucosaminecondroitan9135]

Got the first one from the silhouette.

[@lelandbailey8657]

Yep. Silhouettes have really been giving the answers away.

[@welcomebackpotter722]

@@lelandbailey8657 lol not the fact that Nolan played for like 40 yrs

[@timlett99]

Dalton almost coming to tears over Wandy Rodriguez is kinda crazy ngl lmao

[@thegametwok]

El Caballo! Also Jake absolutely goated first two rounds

[@jgray2718]

I snapped off the trivia question immediately, not that I would have gotten to the trivia round _(I was with Shelfy at 1 point)._ I thought Bagwell was the easy choice for the Astros. Biggio was quite good for a long time, but wasn't an amazing defensive 2B, whereas Bagwell was an absolute monster during the peak of his career and was _also_ in Houston forever. Pudge also seemed like the clear winner over Gonzalez. They both moved on after like 10 years or so, and while Juan Gone was a better masher, he was also a terrible defender _(somehow; he was fast so I'm not sure why he was so bad),_ while Pudge was an all-time great defensive catcher while also being an excellent hitter.

[@OilCompany95]

I blind guessed Carlos Lee, one of my favorite players cuz I saw him have a 2 HR game for the Brewers

[@nicounderscore]

i think a ref guess but its them guessing managers by their career paths would be really fun to watch

[@harrisonbaylor1432]

Carlos Lee hit a walk off grand slam in the 11th inning the same game Biggio hit his 3,000 career hit.

[@under-waterbasketweaving]

Dalton 2024, "Jim, I'm gonna be fucking choking for you dude"

[@dantelewandoski]

I loved Wandy the only reason to watch any Astros after our bad years started

[@Bngstew]

We just not gonna talk about the back to back blind guesses by Jake. What a performance here

[@ILoveMisty1985]

As a Rangers fan living in Texas this one was super easy, even the trivia round. Bit surprising to see nobody got the trivia, especially Dalton after he dominated this category last year. Anyways, I'm still going to request a 90s All-Star round like I do every week.

[@N0isybag]

Jake knows ball on a whole different level

[@Dr.Frankensteen]

Bagwell was my first guess for the Astros just because he hit, stole bases and was decent defensively. Pudge was on my mind but i didn't think he played long enough in just Texas. That was a fun one

[@voncornhole]

Texas doesn't have an elite lifer like that. Beltre is their #3 and he only played a little over 1/3 of his career there

[@Dr.Frankensteen]

@@voncornhole Juan Gonzalez was pretty close to a lifer for them. Yeah he wasnt great defensively but he was the first to come to my mind then Pudge then Beltre

[@RileyJane7]

Oh my gosh little Shelfy, so adorable 😭😭😭

[@LeSunshine]

I am always on point for final trivia but I can’t hit on hard Refguess

[@drumline17]

Got Bagwell. Missed Pudge but at least I'm in good company there

[@shorbshib3218]

Bagwell was overshadowed by bonds Mcgwire Sosa Griffey etc. Best player in history nobody talks about

[@TheTEN24]

I have no recall of Carlos Lee on anyone but the Astros lmao. Jake is a sicko

[@UserAndLoser1985]

Can't believe how much they struggled with the trivia question. I thought both answers were pretty obvious - especially the Rangers one. Nobody but Jake even thought of him.

[@asdfaeou]

Roman MVP. Also, you could have extended it with "Mo-Vaugh'n on" Shelf

[@RyanMariners]

Awwww! Little Roman! 🥺

[@PpP-dr1od]

Remembering the 2012 trade deadline video came in clutch today. Someday I'd like to see a ref guess where all 3 players are from the same trade tree. Ex: Randy Johnson, Freddy Garcia, Micheal Morse.

[@Iconfuseu2000]

The blind guesses will forever be legendary i think it should almost be a requirement lol

[@BrotherBewear]

As a childhood Astros fan who was named after Nolan Ryan, this was phenomenal

[@kennansnipes]

I was blind guessing Scott Feldman for hard, yet somehow couldn’t remember Wandy Rodriguez lol

[@christopherdotson7189]

I had Bagwell. He’s a great HR draft for Houston too.

[@FrshChees91]

Jake gets a point for knowing who Kirk Saarloos is and that he played for Houston.

[@austingriffith441]

So happy to see Roman in the video

[@lukeiguess_]

part of me was really hoping there would be a jordan lyles because people forget he was a 1st rounder for the astros in 08 and started his career there

[@martelkapo]

Jake name dropping Kirk Saarloos is insane

[@pathindsley]

I had Frank Howard, Juan Gonzalez or Pudge for the Rangers, but leaned Juan Gone

[@chrisbuchanan9171]

Pudge or Young was my guess for Rangers That Bagwell, Biggio, Altuve trio is TRICKY for WAR

[@mightymacheezmo6262]

My blind guess for hard was Scott Feldman and no other name came into my head after that. Big miss on me. Nailed the trivia though.

[@DaBaltimoron]

I only got easy...but i nailed both the bonus players! Shocked no one got that.

[@pasketti2404]

my sick brain went towards buddy bell for the trivia for the rangers

[@MrBooblo]

YEAH I GOT BOTH THE BONUS ONES. FEELS GREAT

[@Faded_36]

Jake is the GOAT for this one

[@christophersuto3263]

I said Carlos Gomez instead of Carlos Lee. Not enough stolen bases to be Gomez, but more than I would have guessed for Lee.

[@ctay7216]

For someone born in 99 in Kansas City I have weird recollection of Carlos lee in a brewers uniform hittin dongs. Remembering him as a stro makes sense but I was 6 for his Milwaukee days. How tf do I remember that?😂😂

[@theslotwhisperer5513]

MVP-19 for that medium guy in 2007 feels insane with those numbers

[@EpicGamer14_]

Roman is the best part of this video

[@TonyGarciaxProdigy1994]

jake is wild!!

[@jacobhill2081]

A-Rod had more WAR than Michael Young with the Rangers and he was there for 3 years

[@tojaroslaw]

I guessed the #1 guy for the Astros and the #2 guy for the rangers (avoiding spoilers here) so I consider that a solid win over the JM team. I was never going to get the Hard clue though.

[@connorvaziri9319]

My blind guess was gonna be robinson chirinos but hell of a showing by jake

[@aarondryden5356]

my first ever perfect episode watching at home, of course because I’m from Houston. we still love Wandy 🥹🫶🏻 also Bagwell is an underrated player, dude is in the HOF for a REASON

[@kangaroodude34]

dang I got bagwell and pudge immediately lol, bagwell was too good for it to be biggio

[@Bobman32x]

I blind guessed Carlos Lee and Im so happy Jake did too. That whole round was awesome. Carlos lee. Fucking Cub killer on both teams. I didnt know wandy, and I had bagwell on the mind and was also saying biggio, but I was STUNNED it took til Jake for anyone to say Pudge. He was my gut Ranger and I knew it so fast. I like this idea of shared teams ref guess

[@andrewsells3420]

As an Astros fan I love feeling like ik more than I do getting all of these

[@shaneskinner1680]

I thought Houston would be bagwell but pudge playing for so many other teams kinda scared me off

[@brendanpeters15]

Got Wandy from the silhouette lmao

[@djlocal3551]

Pudge also played for the Astros too

[@NickDPolum]

Jake has a super power

[@asdfaeou]

I got Ivan immediately, and almost no one said him so I started doubting myself.

[@michaelnewell9662]

Nolan, Pudge, & Bagwell were easy for me, the other two? impossible