Can we trust sunscreen? Korean SPF controversies| Dr Dray

[@rawglowkristina]

"What is the best sunscreen?" "The best sunscreen is the one that you will actually put on everyday, and use and that you like. Point blank. That is it." The queen has spoken, and she is not having ANY BS.

[@MsJeanneMarie]

I love her no BS. She doesn’t fall for the hype.

[@rawglowkristina]

@Hello It's K That is per Dr Dray's recommendations. If you watch this video or ANY video of hers, you will know the she recommends a higher SPF (at least SPF30, but preferably 50 or higher) regardless of your geographic location.

[@veronicaivanova]

When someone says "the queen" about someone on KZbin, it always makes me laugh but I totally agree with the message 🙂

[@veronicaivanova]

@Hello It's K, it doesn't matter how hot a country is, you need at least SPF 30. That's Dr Dray's message too!

[@francescadulash3511]

Please research them too. Other countries have more stringent approval assessments for sunblock than others. Americans can claim anything about their products, but Australia requires clinical trials of any pill, medical device etc before the TGA approval is given. We treat sunscreen as part of life 365 days a year.

[@LittleMonstr16]

To me the biggest takeaway from all of this is that sunscreen is just backup sun protection and shade and sun protective clothing should be the main focus

[@wasteddemise2286]

👏🏼

[@ThrowMeYourBread]

And always seek shade!!!

[@suides4810]

I just bought a big hat

[@xxxxMonkeyGirlxxxx]

@@suides4810 I also wear a hat now when I’m outside for more than 5 minutes.

[@dadecountess305]

This is why I always wear long sleeves and hats ! I hide from direct sunlight 😂😂, I live in miami so it’s summer all year round , my skin is prone to melasma and I’m very fair.

[@maylin4964]

Oh my gosh, I remember Dr. Dray’s video a while back mentioned how she questioned Centella Purito’s sunscreen protection because it didn’t contain much filters. She was right lol

[@MC-ko2mx]

Yup. I remember her questioning if the two filters delivered broad spectrum protection. Glad I listened, though I was a little bummed at the time, as the formulation sounded like a (cosmetically elegant) dream. Turns out it was too good to be true.

[@agagugugegeg]

The only person who has suspicion while others adore it on every platform

[@janehiggins9769]

I remember that too. She was definitely right.

[@valentina7182]

She is the queen of sunscreen

[@shintapp]

So recently there's another test by NZ's lab. Several brand like nivea, banana boat, woolworth, sun bum also didn't have as much spf as their labels. Since it's so hard to prove spf content without lab test, I guess this will continue.

[@andreavin3674]

I've started wearing pretty sun hats on a regular basis when we go out (I also live in Texas) and in the beginning I felt silly because no one else wears this stuff - unless they are at the pool or something. It seemed kinda diva to me. Well my husband loves the look and encouraged me to keep on going with it. Let's all do it ladies and gents! Let's do it everyday!

[@ambergerhelper7852]

I have a fancy UV protective umbrella. 🤣

[@zebakoli]

Below are fragrance free sunscreens: • Avene Mineral Fluid SPF 50 (this does leave a white cast but it is good for sensitive skin). • Colorescience Sunforgettable Total Protection Face Shield SPF 50. • Colorescience Sunforgettable Total Protection Brush-on Shield SPF 50 (this is great as a top-up). • Ultra Violette Clean Screen SPF 30.

[@DrDrayzday]

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[@zebakoli]

@@DrDrayzday ❤️💙💜

[@Mwffm]

Eucerin oil control SPF 50+ is also fragrance free

[@Paulgray172]

I wish there was a way to get Ultra Violette in the US

[@stacieflores8650]

what is a good sunscreen for oily skin? I have oily skin and wear glasses so most make my skin greasy and my glasses will slide like crazy

[@dadecountess305]

Your content is gold , I’ve learned so much from it these past few years , it’s saved me money and improved my skin. I hope you are living a great life off camera , you deserve it for being such direct and honest content creator & dermatologist ! Much love

[@HangNguyen-ih8rf]

Dr Dray is not just smart but she is very intuitive and have strong integrity. You’re a rare gem, thank you for the work you put in to inform us. Asian in Asia love white skin so they would wear sunscreen and cover up with umbrella, hat, etc as a daily routine. I would NOT solely rely on a bottle of cream to protect my skin neither.

[@Nomarcaper]

I lived in Japan for awhile and adopted the use of a sun umbrella. My friends in the states make fun of me for it..

[@stuckinamber8456]

@@Nomarcaper keep using an umbrella and laugh at them while they age and wither. 🌂

[@natnguyen4052]

@@Nomarcaper me too! Lived in South East Asia and I loved the umbrella ☂️. Came back to Canada and they thought I was nuts.

[@skybri69]

@@Nomarcaper sun umbrella used to be a thing in the states in the early 90’s still. Idk what happened.

[@flxwercxrpse1871]

@@skybri69 my best guess is people love tans. I never liked tans on people who didn’t have it naturally. They end up looking orange but all POC also need SPF

[@Otterwaffle]

It's not all or nothing, even if the sunscreen isn't as high as it says it is, it ain't 0 xD But the solution is obvious, let's bring back umbrellas, not the ones for rain, but the ones for sun (I mean that's actually what umbrella means, making shadow). It would be so fabulous ☂️♡

[@ShadowChibiz]

Yeah I use UV umbrellas on top of putting on sunscreen

[@Otterwaffle]

@moonrise dreamer But yeah that look is so cool ! I'm a french speaker and in french there are two terms for umbrellas parapluie (rainshield) and ombrelle (ombre =shadow). When I hear the word ombrelle it feels like I'm in a renaissance novel xD

[@nicagerona59]

Here in Asia, umbrellas are common whether for sun or rain. 😊👍🏼💯

[@goosegoose7635]

My hair type doesn't really work with hats so I use UV sunbrellas as well as cute, fancy UV gloves. I always feel so old timey and stylish.

[@MsJeanneMarie]

Haha that’s a parasol!

[@LizbetPCB]

I’m almost done with my last tube of Purito. I use it as my morning my moisturizer, and then follow that with my regular SPF 50. Thank you, Dr. Dray!

[@isabelab6851]

I am doing the same thing with all my Korean sunscreens…Purito, Klairs, and Krave.

[@mashedpotato9333]

Does it make ur face a bit more oily? Cause purito alone makes me face greasy 😞 im currently trying to finish my tube and since i didn't go out that much i dont need to purchase one more sunscreen. But looking at this comment i feel like i need one after applying purito since im gonna be out in the sun in the near future.. what's the other sunscreen u apply after purito?

[@megh6761]

I almost bought this sunscreen before the whole scandal :/ it's hard to find good non-greasy sunscreens with no white cast. Thanks for explaining the science behind this stuff! I appreciate it as a fellow scientist :)

[@moritlh]

I guess you just have to embrace the greasiness

[@DrDrayzday]

Thanks for watching

[@xxxxMonkeyGirlxxxx]

Try tinted mineral sunscreen. It is more trial and error but I’ve found some that blend nicely with my skin color. It’s replaced my use for foundation as well.

[@_blacksunflowers_1384]

The supergoop zinc tinted has been great for me and black girl sunscreen has a matte one. Good luck on your journey!

[@Princessbubblegum567]

Dr. Jart every sun day fluid is amazing. I bought it last year in Korea and I use it a lot. It’s my holy grail. Doesn’t irritate my eyes either. I’m actually going to buy 2 from their website. Just be careful when buying from Amazon. A lot of fakes out there

[@ceruleanwonder]

I have respect for all the brands that pulled their sunscreens off the market and retested them. At least they care about whether or not they're misleading consumers whether intentionally or not. Thanks, Dr. Dray!

[@DrDrayzday]

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[@ceruleanwonder]

@A maybe not but at least they pulled products before that point. I don't have data or stats to back this up, but it seems like a lot of brands try to make as much money as possible before admitting there's a problem.

[@tracey1782]

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[@sunscreenhoarder6558]

Purito actually publicly admitted they didn't trust their own sunscreen. It's been very controversial since it launched and a lot of people didn't trust it whatsoever, which is the only reason it got tested by INCIdecoder to start with. And the only reason it was pulled from the market was because they got caught redhanded by a third party and couldn't risk getting sued.

[@millig8980]

I only wear sunscreen from Australia/NZ. Australia has the highest skin cancer rate and we have the strictest approval guidelines by cancer council.

[@ItsWhoIAmItsHowILive]

What brands

[@jacobrihanivlogs5614]

Which sunscreens are your favourites?

[@millig8980]

@@jacobrihanivlogs5614 Skinnies 50 plus thanks

[@artchick07]

@@millig8980 I absolutely love that sunscreen. It's my absolute favorite.

[@rcherry762]

Same. Ultra Violette.

[@anarinaldi]

Trust issues with spf is a real thing haha

[@DrDrayzday]

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[@andresbrio4525]

Imagine trusting so much a sunscreen that you don't reapply, or use just a little. 💀

[@anarinaldi]

@@andresbrio4525 I could never trust so much a sunscreen like that 🤣

[@joyelizabethvinson1185]

WORD! 🤣 The struggle is real...for like 20 yrs now 😎💪🏻💯 Hope all reading this are well & have a great day. ❤️🤘🏻

[@joyelizabethvinson1185]

@@andresbrio4525 🤯😱😱😱

[@amnakhan9241]

I've watched so many videos on the Korean sunscreen scandal yet this one was the most enlightening and informative 👍🏼

[@ye23.]

Labmuffin is good too she gets real scientific

[@debbyd5729]

@@ye23. Yes! She gets into the real nitty-gritty. I also have been recommending everyone check out the video from The Monodist that Lab Muffin had shared. Really eye opening!

[@pamelar4224]

I hate the outrage based things too! I feel like it’s always more about the love of drama and destroying rather than a quest for truth. Also my greatest take away here is ‘ sunscreen is not a coat of armor’ ! Greatness, Dr Dray! You should put this on a shirt! 😊❤️

[@hippopajamas]

I have to admit- I'm impressed with those companies going back and testing their SPFs on their own and pulling the product when it wasn't up to snuff.

[@Lexandra23]

As a lawyer I assure you, that was driven by fear, not care. Nevertheless, regardless of the reason, it is still a good thing

[@J_Mock92]

I'm so glad that you finally released this video, and that this was your opinion and message. There's been so much outrage over these Korean sunscreens, and it's honestly kind of ridiculous. Like you said, this isn't specific to Korea, there wasn't any malicious intent behind it, and it not necessarily anyone's fault, just by nature of the variability in product testing. I love Asian sunscreens (specifically Japanese) for daily use, because they're so lightweight, comfortable, and quickly/easily absorbed. For those same reasons however, I never really thought they'd be ideal for heavy outdoor activity, because they don't usually produce a film on the skin! Most of these Asian sunscreens are meant for daily wear, as opposed to being used at the beach or whatever, so I wouldn't think to rely on them outside of the parameters of their intended use anyways. They also tend to come in very small bottles, and I can't imagine how many you'd go through during a day at the beach! I don't have that kind of money... Lol

[@nolaray1062]

I have to wonder if the big reason for the outrage was simply because of the major hype around asian beauty lately. Ppl around the world have put Asian beauty products on such an extremely high pedestal that it was only a matter of time before something rocked it. (Not saying Asian beauty isn’t good, because a lot of it is, but nothing is perfect.)

[@J_Mock92]

@@nolaray1062 that's a really good point. The past few years have been so heavily focused on asian skincare, how technologically advanced and amazing it is. I've tried my fair share of K-beauty/J-beauty products and enjoyed them, but apart from the sunscreens (lol), I never quite understood the hype around them. I think it's the concepts and philosophies overall (double cleansing, gentler products, daily sunscreen) that have made the bigger impact, as opposed to the products themselves. Anyways, I think you're right. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. If it hadn't been hyped up so much, it wouldn't have been such a big scandal.

[@isabelab6851]

Completely agree!

[@teeniadal3701]

Good point too!

[@Dana-oi6bj]

I agree with you @Jesse Mock. I love my Misha Essence Sun Milk SPF 50+++. Extremely lightweight, non greasy, doesn't sting my sensitive eyes and plays well with other products. I thought it was Japanese but just checked, it's made in Korea. I'd be interested in knowing which Japanese sunscreen you use. I do think Asian formulations are better than ours due to the cultural preference for lighter, spot- free skin.

[@essaly7969]

I saw a video from a Korean lady working in the industry, explaining that the companies were allowed to test sunscreens and tweak them before putting them in the market without changing the test results. So, some companies used this by testing heavy-duty sunscreens, changing them so they become cosmetically elegant (heavily lowering the SPF while doing so) and selling them while using the results of the old sunscreen in their marketing claims. So, outside of batch variations etc, there is actually a breach in the Korean law that should be changed.

[@TheBeautifulDisaster]

Had no idea about this, thank you. Do you remember the title or have the link to that video?

[@db-gb5xi]

@@TheBeautifulDisaster Probably Odile Monod, Korean Sunscreen Controversy. It's a good video. I'd also check out Lab Muffin's SPF testing video.

[@TheBeautifulDisaster]

d b Thank you so much for these resources, I'm off to binge Odile Monod's content.

[@jasminateodorovic1248]

The same thing happened to La Roche Posey. Went under the radar pretty fast unlike the Korean ones they still keep talking about.

[@AudreyBradford]

Dray, you are my favorite. You always give the best skin care reviews and back up ALL of your points with science backed information. I never buy anything without watching your review first.

[@looli1327]

You're such a great health educator♥️ i love the evidence-based message: the best sunscreen is the one you'll wear.

[@sherryg1838]

I liked this sunscreen. Odile Monod had an interesting video explaining how smaller Korean companies like Purito are able to skirt the regulations. She believes the larger Korean companies have more trustworthy sunscreens.

[@erinodonnell386]

Hello Everyone! I just wanted to point out that there are a lot of people in this comment section recommending wearing non-water resistant sunscreens for days at the beach. This probably isn’t the most advisable advice one could offer. If you are sweating or getting in the water please consider wearing a water resistant sunscreen to maintain robust coverage for a significant period of time. They aren’t always the most comfortable to wear every day but different situations require different tools. Have a wonderful day!

[@NoNo-cx7zd]

Another thing with sunscreen use in many Asian countries is that many people use layers of spf. Moisturizer with spf + suncreen + tone up cream with spf + bb cream with spf. Also no tanning and umbrella use for sun blocking, although the umbrella use is usually done by grandmas.

[@theshriekinghominin1760]

"...although the umbrella use is usually done by grandmas." I feel so attacked.

[@tisthedamnphd1244]

THANK YOU DR DRAY! I don’t trust anyone’s opinions but yours on this

[@DrDrayzday]

Thanks for watching

[@Growstuff70]

Let’s not throw out the baby with the bath water. Layer sunscreens and reapply.

[@nathalieschumann8499]

I have what is probably considered a rather unpopular opinion about that „sunscreen scandal“. The Purito sunscreen is literally the first sunscreen that my face tolerated. Ever. I had severe, painful reactions to every other sunscreen I ever tried. I will still use mine, I actually bought a couple of spares. A level of around 20 is more than enough for me. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, we were lucky if our mom bought SPF 5 shen we went to the beach.

[@rosewu5279]

Me too, this sunscreen isn’t oily

[@tinalewis6782]

This is true! I remember when spf first became a thing. Coppertone’s Suntan Oil has spf = 2, Coppertone Suntan Lotion has spf = 4 and Coppertone “Shade” was spf = 8. The highest spf I used as a teenager growing up in Florida was Ban de Soleil Gelee at spf = 8 and that was considered super-protective. These days I feel like I’m taking an enormous risk when I use spf = 15.

[@cobrakai3732]

That's really funny how different our experiences were. I grew up in the 80s also, but my mom always slathered us with SPF 45 sunblock and made us come back every hour or so for more slathering (mostly when we were on vacation and in swimsuits, but even when we were back home just playing outside). She was obsessed. In fact, on our FL vacations I usually ended up with chemical burns/irritations under my eyes because it was a constant mixture of chemical sunblock and chlorinated water from the hotel pool/water parks. To this day I refuse to wear chemical sunscreen on my face, only mineral is acceptable :) ...also based on current research, it turns out that the UVA blocks in those 80s sunscreens (even our spf45 level) were crap, so the damage was probably done anyway. But my mom is well into her 70s now and still has awesome skin, so possibly it wasn't too bad?!

[@1Arwen11]

Possibly the most awaited video of this year ! 😀

[@DrDrayzday]

Thanks for watching

[@nicolewilfong]

I used the KraveBeauty sunscreen at the beach on a week long trip & didn’t burn. I did reapply it multiple times though. I wish they would just say what spf it actually is and re-release it.

[@audreyfafara4696]

I feel like this about my DearKlairs. Whatever it is works for me, it’s my favorite for daily use and I used it all last summer with good results.

[@isabelab6851]

I feel the same way. I use it all the time and have never been burned

[@amandaleggett]

same! it was my holy grail

[@ambergerhelper7852]

I didn’t like how Krave handled it. Seemed quite snippy. I won’t buy from them.

[@Sunday-ex7px]

I think they said it’s still safe to use even if it isn’t SPF 50 so I think it’s probably somewhere between 30 and 50.

[@n3r0n3]

I am still using my backup of Purito and Klairs frankly... I don't use em for sports or the beach (they were not water resistant anyway) and I simply put more on.

[@agnesjuhasz7715]

I loved Purito, I never ever got a sunburn while using it during summer , it worked wonders for me. I did reapply every 4 hours.

[@giuliana5888]

That peach colour is gorgeous on you 🧡

[@bbsail]

I'm on a budget so I used to buy Korean $7-15 SPF. The last one I bought was from the same manufacturer than purito. So now, I'm doing Cerave tinted SPF 30 $14, it is orangy but I think is ok.

[@DrDrayzday]

I hope they come out with more shades

[@bbsail]

@@DrDrayzday 👍💚

[@nadab4750]

Thanks @bbsail for letting us know that the CeraVe tinted sunscreen is quite orangey. Out of curiosity I purchased the Colorescience 50+ tinted sunscreen and this one also seems too orangey for me. I am yet to wear it. I will experiment at home first with a light shade foundation and powder on top. Hopefully I won't need to wear too much of either to counteract the orangey hue. Thankfully I didn't pay full price for the Colorescience, as I bought it on eBay new without the box. I will continue to use the Propaira spf 50+ Tinted Sunscreen (Very high protection UBA UVB Broad Spectrum). Ultra Light Lotion, 4 Hour Water Resistant, Niacinimide, Iron Oxide, Vitamin E. Fragrance free. The Propaira is higher price than the CeraVe but not as expensive as the Colorescience. 👱‍♀️👱‍♀️

[@bbsail]

@@nadab4750 I use the original colorescience and it's not orange for my Fitzpatrick 3 type of skin. "Desert /sand beige" in foundation

[@nadab4750]

@@bbsail I'm a Fitzpatrick 2, fair and I freckle easily, not quite a 1, as I am not blue eyed. 👱‍♀️❤🧴

[@francescadulash3511]

If you want decent sunscreen look for Australian brands - we're the skin cancer capital of the world and have a very stringent Therapeutic Goods Administration laws. If it doesn't do whats claimed, it gets pulled from market. We've also got stringent workplace laws for outdoor workers who must be provided sun protection 365 days a year.

[@amandaleggett]

good to know!

[@ambergerhelper7852]

Why would I trust a sunscreen from the Skin Cancer Capital?!

[@Itsnicolaj]

@@ambergerhelper7852 Australia is basically the world’s skin cancer expert. Diagnosing skin cancers for doctors in Australia is like getting their morning coffee. It’s so common that most skin checks & removals are done in family Dr’s offices and not by Dermatologists. We have a government funded Skin Cancer council that’s sole job is to review sunscreen and advise the public on sun safety products/ research/ education.

[@francescadulash3511]

@@ambergerhelper7852 Because we saw too many people dying needlessly from skin cancers that spread & our government took action. We have strict preventative cancer laws that require preschoolers wear hats, sunscreen & have shaded outdoor areas to play in. Thats compulsory until they are 18. All workplaces must provide full protection for outdoor workers because skin cancer becomes an occupational hazard and the employers responsibility. So the government don't allow products on the market unless they've got clinical trials to support their product claims.

[@jenniferlopezegyptfans6505]

I remember reading that it was very hard for a sunscreen in Australia to be accepted. (something like that) Thank you for the reminder 💙💙

[@otherdelight]

I'''ve been using Canmake for a couple of years now, and worn at the beach, and was fully protected after a whole afternoon in the hot sun...I will continue to use it...Besides, it's very cosmetically elegant and does not sting my sensitive eyes...

[@erinodonnell386]

I don’t think that canmake is a water resistant sunscreen. It’s great for day to day wear (I love it too) but you may want to consider something water/sweat resistant for that kind of sun exposure.

[@Delicious1922]

Canmake is Japanese sunscreen

[@erinodonnell386]

@@Delicious1922 Canmake is a brand. Canmake Mermaid Skin is the sunscreen most people are referring to. Regardless of where it comes from, sunscreens can have a water resistance rating (80 min, 40 min, etc.). I use a Japanese sunscreen (pretty sure it's japanese) that is water resistant when I want something to wear if I'm going to be sweating (Isehan Kiss Me Mommy) which is advisable. Water and sweat can disrupt the film that provides protection.

[@Delicious1922]

@@erinodonnell386 I know.

[@domiusdom7883]

If you are based in Europe try SVR line, it’s awesome and I enjoy it much more than Asian sunscreens. SVR: Fluid, Extreme Gel and Blur are my 3 HG sunscreens, 0 shine, white cast and irritation. 😍

[@marconemeth9683]

Odile Monode has a fantastic KZbin video explaining in detail the regulatory loophole some companies and manufactures in South-Korea abused when formulated these sunscreens. Smaller companies buy pre-made tested and approved sunscreen formulas from third-party manufacturers. However, when this formula is tweaked and tailored - better spreadability and added ingredients - additional sunscreen testing is not required as long as the active ingredients (filters) don't change. However, we know that changing texture (from cream to lotion or gel) and adding or removing a few ingredients can significantly alter the efficacy of sunscreens. Just like Dr Dray, Odile recommends buying Korean sunscreens from big companies like Amorepacific and LG Groups who manufacture, test and distribute sunscreens. It is a systematic industry-wide issue the Korean FDA is currently investigating. Hopefully tighter regulatory restrictions will lead to amazing Korean sunscreens in the future.

[@TheRuthyc]

Then it is a good thing this happened, this "outrage" over actual spf being so much lower than advertised, because it brought about some needed regulatory changes for South Korean sunscreen manufacturers. I don't think the outrage was so that people would go out of business just as Purito probably did not intentionally harm anyone, though I am sure some were harmed. The outrage is from not having the facts as advertised about something heavily relied upon. We like facts right?

[@marconemeth9683]

@@TheRuthyc It was a bigger outrage in South Korea than internationally, I think. Consumers compiled lawsuits against manufacturers and companies and if fraud is proven, they can go to jail. Seriously, Odile’s video is amazing.

[@ONCEINABLUEMOON1993]

I recommend my sister to use Elta MD, and she only apply a few little dots of sunscreen , and complained about getting freckles under the afternoon Florida sun.

[@xxxxMonkeyGirlxxxx]

I use EltaMD’s Physical sunscreen and it’s been working great so far. But I also put a lot on my face to ensure I’m well covered. Overall I’ve noticed my dark spots have not gotten worse which is what I wanted the most.

[@bnb0510]

It’s not necessarily ineffective sunscreen. Heat actually has a lot to do with pigmentation as well. Especially Melasma.

[@_blacksunflowers_1384]

Oh no! Reminds me of the Gwenyth skincare video 😣

[@ye23.]

That sunscreen broke me out like crazy. Such a disappointment

[@isabelab6851]

She probably did not apply enough, did not reapply as needed after being in the water or profuse sweating as happens in crazy humid, hot Florida weather

[@ysg.6540]

Every sunscreen i've tried cause me mild to moderate irritation, except Purito. So sad that it's no longer available 😭

[@jourdainjardin846]

I have 10 unopened tubes of it that I won’t be using. 😄 probably will donate them.

[@Sabrina-sc1db]

@@jourdainjardin846 meh, its a moisturiser, you can still use it But if you donate it, be clear about what it is, so that other people don't get a sunburn

[@babykrul]

@@jourdainjardin846 omg exact same problem here lol but I use it in the morning as a moisturizer after showering, then go make breakfast etc. and then after half an hour I apply my ‘first’ spf product. So I use the purito sunscreen for half an hour and apply right when my whole morning routine is over, and won’t feel guilty for not immediately unsing sunscreen because its spf19 👍 Doing it this way even made my morning routine more relaxed, would recommend this morning ritual 😄

[@lena-ex7bv]

@@babykrul I feel like even if it's just spf 19 it's okay for staying indoors (at least when it's not summer), I finished my last tube like that: indoor and applying a looot of it lol

[@babykrul]

@@lena-ex7bv Exactly! Even with the thought in mind that most people only wear spf when it’s the hottest days of summer, spf19 is pretty decent if you use it that way!

[@susannmesna1897]

This is so weird, I Googled that question this morning

[@DrDrayzday]

Hope this helps answer your questions

[@susannmesna1897]

@@DrDrayzday Thank you so much, very helpful.

[@nmackenziedodds]

I appreciate this video so much, I have total confidence in Dr Dray. I have oily skin, I live in France, and I wear Eucerin Oil Control SPF50+ and SVR AK DM Secure Protect. Deals with oiliness, has high UVB SPF and high UVA protection. I apply liberally in the morning, and I reapply at least once during the day.

[@starvictory7079]

I can't find the Eucerin SPF50 pil control in Sweden anymore! :( I think it's a Swedish brand too...?

[@starvictory7079]

Oil control...ooops typo!

[@nmackenziedodds]

@@starvictory7079 It's a German brand, I think! I really like it!

[@starvictory7079]

@@nmackenziedodds me too...only the spf30 is available now. Very annoying!

[@37napa]

👏🏻 thank you Dr. Dray! Again, another highly informative vid. Love this channel.

[@DrDrayzday]

Thanks for watching

[@iamgem]

I hope that one day in the future, we can develop some sort of product/technology that can 100% protect us from harmful UV rays and then we can look back and be like “wow, people had to reapply EVERY 2 hours?! Thats nuts!” I feel like we’re living in the stone age by doing this lol

[@saysHotdogs]

Unrelated, but I’m convinced at one point we’re gonna look back on the days where we didn’t do routine screening for ovarian cancer and absolutely cringe

[@jdoe5873]

Dude I remember watching Dr Dray review that sunscreen and she did say in that video "I wonder how good this really is bc the only ingredient for UVA protection it has is ?" It was super cosmetically elegant and seemed too good to be true. So Dr Dray's innocuous, off-handed comment about the ingredients list then made me think there had to be a catch.

[@theveronicarae]

Always so thorough to give haters no room to complain! You’ve been my go to skincare professional and everything you’ve ever recommended has ALWAYS worked! Thank you Dr. Dray!!!

[@potentglitter5300]

Love your channel! ❤️ I wore this sunscreen on my face when I was at an amusement park and I got sunburned :/

[@DrDrayzday]

Sorry to hear that happened

[@potentglitter5300]

@@dylannicks1146 Not at all 😂

[@isabelab6851]

Did you reapply every two hours?

[@sherrychung2456]

Omg thank god I didn’t buy it, I almost did tho cuz of the hype

[@Daffodil98647]

That La Roche-Posay is too greasy for me and makes my face feel like it is suffocating. I only use it if I will be outside for an extended period of time and wash my face immediately when I get home using an oil cleanser to make sure all of it is off!

[@camivamp]

So happy to see I'm not the only one. It also burned my eyes so bad!

[@seabee3097]

I highly suggest watching all Dr. Dray's videos ALL THE WAY thru! She's got easter eggs sprinkled everywhere; for instance at around the 22minute mark she reveals she recommends the Anthelios 100SPF. I was wearing this exact brand and sunscreen and I screamed when she said that. Great vid!!

[@mleekahh]

I have no idea what to do. I see so many reviews, but almost every mineral sunscreen I try, leaves a strong white cast. It can be even harder having oily skin as a black woman finding sunscreens, becauase the one that arnt with a strong white cast are too heavy for oily skin. But chemical sunscreens have so much untrustworthyness

[@gnrncrue]

A very intelligent, level-headedness analysis. Thats what I love about Dr Dray; you never get the feeling she is being 'bought' by a company/product.

[@t00l0fsatan]

I was so sad. Purito was my FAVORITE sunscreen 😞 it wasn't too greasy, wasn't too drying, so nice. But spf 19!?! I can't mess with that

[@raileanuionela8872]

Same for me

[@allegra1952]

I’m very careful with sunscreen, I’ve used Klairs for a while and never got issues! This is weird because I’m quite sensitive to some chemical filters! In God We Trust 🙏🏻🙂

[@isabelab6851]

Same here

[@allegra1952]

@@isabelab6851

[@TiffTheTyrant]

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I go with the big guys in Canada (Neutrogena, L’Oréal-which owns Ombrelle and La Roche Posay for that patented Mexoryl) for my sunscreen. Legacy companies have been doing it for awhile so I trust people who have been in the business for a long time.

[@emwyyn]

Love my Ombrelle Ultra Light SPF 60! I stopped buying other sunscreens cause I trust and love this one.

[@TiffTheTyrant]

@@emwyyn I KNOW! I was so shocked how good the Ombrelle spf 60 sport one is. No white cast at all and ZERO grease. I’m so impressed.

[@DELLRS2012]

I use the LPR SM 15 and LOVE it! I wish I could get the spf 60 version in the USA!!!! Jealous! Although the 15 does cause eye irritation for me but I just avoid it around my eyes.

[@TiffTheTyrant]

@@DELLRS2012 I would try to order Ombrelle online which I think is exclusive to Canada. It’s owned by L’Oréal like LRP and also has patented technology with the mexoryl, just cheaper brand.

[@cuttie240]

I lived in S. Korea for nine months, and I had never seen such perfect skin. I was there before all the skin care hype reached the U.S. This culture really takes care of their skin, they seem to be doing something right. As always, appreciate your videos. Thanks 🌸😊

[@Bobbyfawn]

A lot of it IS genetics tho. They do take care of their skin but it’s in the genes

[@Bobbyfawn]

@@slee7719 you're right thank you for educating me

[@bushyparkpo]

I refused to throughout my Korean sunscreens when the scandal happened. I just added my Altruist and/or La Posay sunscreen on top.

[@sarahanelson12]

Your commitment to education is extraordinary. Thank you, Dr. Dray!

[@Abbeyxduarte]

I’ve been waiting for you to speak on this! I stopped using my Purito SPF a few months back and switched to La Roche Posay 😊

[@fashionholicable]

I have been using the cosrx spf 50 aloe sunscreen. I don’t know if it’s spf 50 or not but it’s great for everyday use!

[@chaloevibes4355]

Same currently using it too

[@poopybutt]

The cosrx spf 50 aloe sunscreen has several ingredients that have been shown in studies to damage human DNA, cause gene mutations, increase cancer risk and act as endocrine disruptors, among other serious health effects at even lower dosages commonly used in sunscreens. One of those ingredients is ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate for example, the second most abundant ingredient (after water) in this particular cosrx sunscreen. I would be very careful with long term exposure to these kind of chemical concoctions. The only safe sunscreens are mineral based ones. They will be visible on your face etc., but at least you're not putting a layer of cancerous, hormone disrupting chemicals on your skin. Unfortunately Dr. Dray never seems to address any of this.

[@aoifecaetan9832]

@@poopybutt what is your source for this information? is it a credible scientific source or just speculation? if a cosmetic product is approved for sale it is very unlikely that these effects would be overlooked.

[@nish8066]

Absolutely loved your breakdown. Being in engineering field, repeatability and reproducibility is absolutely the key to any successful engineered design. It’s a very scientific concept. Very insightful information. Thank you for all that you do with passion and truly educate consumers 😍

[@isabelab6851]

I live in Florida and I wear sunscreen even when I don’t step outside at all. These Korean sunscreens are perfect because the consistency is very elegant and does not cause irritation and I use them as moisturizer. If I go to the beach, I sit under an umbrella, try to be outside before 11 or after 4. If I am going to be outside, I use heavy duty waterproof, reapply every two hours and after going in the water or exercising and more importantly I wear a hat, sunglasses, and sun protection clothing designed for that purpose. So I think it is a shame that people used it incorrectly. I am sad that I have not found another sunscreen with the same elegant feel…and more importantly that does not irritate my skin. I will use what I have and be on the lookout for new ones.

[@gypsysnickerdoodle4354]

When you see the AMOUNT needed, it becomes almost 😅 horrifying how much product volume is required to meet the levels declared Michael Goss did a video pointing out how little we tend to use, compared to what the instructions ONLY NOW are indicating. For decades, I could never get clarity from anyone how much or how often it was needed... or how to get it on me over a face of cosmetics.

[@prachrangapundit646]

Im glad i pair with my uv blocker umbrella when i go out to the sun besides wearing sunscreen

[@Tttt28882]

What makes me fear Korean sunscreens is that they’re illegal in Australia!

[@ajaj598]

Dr. Dray, I have to tell you my skin is so much better since I started following your advice and routines. I had zero knowledge of skin care, did basically zero to take care of my skin. As I got a little older I didn't like how my skin was looking. I found you on here about 2 weeks ago. I've been following your basic skin care you recommend/suggest on your channel and in 2 weeks my skin looks so much better. I bought some of the products you recommend, started using them, they really help. I can't thank you enough. I went to a dermatologist once to talk about how my skin was looking but I didn't understand anything she was saying, I had no idea what she was talking about. So I just sat there clueless, went home, made no changes. I just didn't understand. After watching a few of your videos I understood, you really explain and teach well. I was able to put in action what you explain. Thank you so much.

[@whitepaper5241]

I've been trying all these controversial sunscreens - Purito, Klairs, Keep Cool, B-Lab. I apply a lot of them and reapply every 2 hours, and Purito still tanned my skin really badly, to the point where i looked like i came out of a microwave. Imagine applying a small amount of those sunscreens and not reapplying throughout the day. This really makes me scared to buy Asian sunscreens, especially knowing even Biore UV Watery Gel, which already passed the SPF testing, only has a PPD of 8. My skin doesn't burn, but it tans very quickly, and in case people will attack me or calling me racist for saying this, i'm Asian who lives in Southeast Asia. So no, i'm not racist. It's just that most Asian countries don't have a strict rule when it comes to SPF testing.

[@marry-louise5108]

Exactly! I was using Biore old version (pink tube) and a new one for 2 years. I got tanned each year and very quickly! Then I followed dr drey advice and turned to elta md. And my skin did not tann last summer!

[@halaboobs]

I alternate different big brand sunscreens while trying new ones from time to time. It's my way of avoiding consistent use of one brand that later turns out to be problematic.

[@Zenmasterzzz]

I just bought the Laroche pose melt in 100 and it works sooooo well on my skin. I have darker skin and it literally just melts in my skin. Thank you for the recommendation! Don’t be fooled by the look as it looks white when it comes out of the bottle, it melts in your skin and leave no cast.

[@moisdawg]

Thanks for the detail about darker skin, I’ve used lower spf of theirs and it left a cast

[@msgirly6827]

Doesnt it contain alcohol?

[@Zenmasterzzz]

@@moisdawg this does not leave a cast at all! 10 sec of blending in the skin and it just disappears!

[@Zenmasterzzz]

@@msgirly6827 it does contain Panthenol and Phenoxyethanol both of which are not harmful to the skin.

[@msgirly6827]

@@Zenmasterzzz could you please tell me the exact one you purchased?

[@moisdawg]

Thank you for your insight. You’re one of the only experts who’s ever convinced me to use sunscreen daily, and be more aggressive about sun protection in general. That being said, Neutrogena and la roach posay could still use some work making chemical sunscreens that don’t leave a white cast 😐 jus sayin

[@danic8737]

I recently started using the Walgreens Sensitive sunscreen spf 50 you've mentioned before and I love it. I'm somewhat suspicious though, because how can it be THAT cheap?!

[@Marieee180]

My favorite sunscreen is the Garnier Ombrelle SPF 45 Sport. No white cast, doesn't burn or sting, reapplies well, doesn't pill, doesn't leave my skin in a greasy mess, no fragrance... And it's from the drugstore!!! AND affordable! I never thought I'd be so passionate about a sunscreen lol

[@amandaleggett]

what skin type do you have? i’ve got dry skin and i desperately need a sunscreen that has hydration but isn’t greasy and korean sunscreens have been the only ones that have worked for me 😫

[@Marieee180]

@@amandaleggett My skin is pretty normal, not super greasy and not super dry, I don't know if that helps haha I don't know if you would find it hydrating though, since it's a more lightweight formula, it's more of a watery consistency than a thick creamy one (which I personnally prefer since it "melts" into the skin and blends much better)... I always use a moisturizer underneath my sunscreen, so I haven't had any issues with dryness or whatever

[@kelseythecat4781]

As an Asian child, I was told to wear sunscreen, umbrella (the one against UV) and hat all the time lol now I’m 34 and my skin is pretty good!

[@kharmilakhairuddin2781]

What brand of sunscreen are you using?

[@kelseythecat4781]

@@kharmilakhairuddin2781 Japanese ones are really good. Dr Dray recommended some before. I used and like most of the ones she recommended.

[@kharmilakhairuddin2781]

@@kelseythecat4781 that's good because right now I'm using Kanebo Allie Extra UV Gel.

[@gk4539]

Love how nice and smart u r...just absolutely professional and clear at the same time... U r a great example of someone who can communicate and bring people together.

[@rachelyeiry665]

I was waiting for this video !!! just bought the Hada Labo UV Gel. Much LOVE❤️

[@DrDrayzday]

Thanks for watching

[@ja8973]

Where did you buy yours? I can't find it in stock anywhere.

[@bridgethester8235]

@@ja8973 I just bought the Hada Labo UV gel from a website called Japanese Taste. I've never bought from this site before so I'm hoping for good service. I tried La Roche Posay for the first time this morning and DID NOT LIKE IT. Too greasy, smells too much like sunscreen, gave me a white goo layer in my eyebrows. Ordered Hada Labo at work after just a few hours!

[@louise5055]

I love the Hada labo uv gel, its the only sunscreen that I actually want to wear, but now im not sure if I can trust the spf.

[@bridgethester8235]

@@louise5055 until I hear otherwise about that specific product, I'm gonna keep using it. Like Dr. Dray said, the best spf is the one you're willing to use everyday. I cannot use spf that smells like regular sunscreen.

[@candylandyme]

Dr Dray is great! always using science and using a level head, never giving in to the crazes and being clear about the limitations of what she says. Also thank you for saying this is not just a Korean thing

[@idreamofpeony]

I love when people argue that putting on a base layer of spf everyday is too “extreme”, they also are always telling us they live in windowless, underground caves or never draw their curtains, never go near windows or never go outside-as if those circumstances aren’t extreme.

[@starvictory7079]

It's not extreme to live in Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Denmark, Norway, Russia etc where the sun sets from 3pm in winter or never comes up at all for a month. The UV index is provided for us so we know when we need SPF. Not arguing with you, but just adding information.

[@idreamofpeony]

@@starvictory7079 UVA are not burning rays and are there as long as there is daylight.

[@starvictory7079]

@@idreamofpeony I know. I don't think you understand...the UV light is so low here in the winter because of where Sweden is on the globe. The UV index is important.

[@idreamofpeony]

@@starvictory7079 the UV index only accounts for the effects of UVB (how likely you are to burn), not UVA (the damage accrued regardless of burn)

[@mayastoop9291]

Thank you for balanced opinion and lots of common sense advice. I was upset about the Purito sunscreen but I liked how the company handled it.

[@Cosifantutte227]

Good Morning Dr. Dray and Friends from San Diego, CA!! Hope all are having a lovely start to your day! Be well.

[@jessicalevin8731]

hello fellow san diegan friend :)

[@brigitte9999]

I used to be allergic to the majority of sunscreen(until they made improvements). I have always relied on avoidance and clothing.

[@natnguyen4052]

Me too!

[@nicolelewonkenobi]

I have that exact sunscreen in my purse right now! I bought it after watching your video.

[@DrDrayzday]

Which one?

[@nicolelewonkenobi]

The Purito Centella Green Level Unscented Sun SPF 50+ PA++++

[@nicolelewonkenobi]

@@DrDrayzday I almost feel I should contact where I got it from and see if they'll exchange it. I got it after watching an old video you did. Thankfully I haven't used it. I have been using another CeraVe tinted sunscreen you recommended.

[@c-mcm3130]

My favorite video of yours so far. Thank you for educating those willing to learn, and for taking your time to research and analyze before making commentary. Always on topic, and so professional! ♡

[@eglebadaraite5706]

I was so mad when I read about Purito green level as I am using tretinoin and have to really protect my face. I’m switched back to La Roche Posay now and sticking to it. It’s more expensive, but it’s approved by dr Dray.

[@roxyred0145]

I always appreciate your content! Educating vs influencing is always a win for me. 💜

[@jijaqh2950]

Dr Dray I understand your points and appreciate your insight but honestly I'm so sad that this scandal has happened. I use retin-A and used to use Purito sunscreen. after hearing the story of spf 19 I had headache for one week. Please don't judge people who don't want to use Korean sunscreen anymore. with love 🤗💗

[@my-vn8nw]

Your choice but have in mind that koreans love to have a healthy bright skin and use sunscreen since they're kids, it's part of the culture and their beauty standard so while Purito sunscreen sucks, many other korean brands do not.

[@cocoarose9990]

@@my-vn8nw Exactly. Koreans are doing something right. Their skin is flawless without makeup.

[@JaneDoe-vi5yc]

As long as I'm here typing, can anyone recommend a sunscreen that feels just like Purito and Klairs: moisturizing, non-greasy, non-shiny, no white cast, fast absorbing, doesn't sting the eyes, but actually offers protection?

[@AmbientAuteur]

There was a huge scandal around 10 years ago with Coppertone and others. check out Cosmetics Database for information on your health and household products.

[@jeanvlinhares]

Not even sunscreens go scot free in the cancel culture era

[@ericavigil9567]

I purchased skin better science spf 68 compact. Yes it’s pricey ($68) but it’s literally the best one I’ve tried as of yet. It is tinted (but doesn’t feel or look like makeup). Non drying. Easy to reapply bc it’s a compact. It’s more of a cream but it literally looks like nothing when u apply but at the same time perfects your skin in the best way. It’s skin tone adapting and it truly does adapt to your complexion. It does not transfer ( I wear a mask all day long). I want everyone to try this!!!

[@UncleCharlie111x2]

Excellent job making the logical and rational points stand out!👌🏻 I just purchased a giant brim hat to walk in tis large enough to double as a umbrella for a family of small statue ☂ I will refer to it as my “Draybrero” 👍🏻

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings U. Charlie hope u r well n Happy Thursday😀👍💜....

[@hailey302]

Draybrero 😂

[@DrDrayzday]

love it, lol!

[@moisdawg]

😂 where’d you get yours

[@UncleCharlie111x2]

@@moisdawg HLLMAN store Amazon

[@melaniebeth717]

This was the honest straightforward truth I needed to hear today.

[@melaniebeth717]

I started looking too carefully at percentages to decide between sunscreens and it’s good to be reminded you can’t go just by the ingredient percentages

[@Suzanne1999]

These videos are so informative. Now I don't have to spend 20 minutes in the sunscreen section of Walmart and leave with nothing. It's all just too overwhelming. I have my products written down and out to Walmart I go. I just have one problem. I do feel old browsing on Amazon for sun hats lol. But I just read that sun visors are back "in." Thank God and thank you!

[@moisdawg]

It really can be overwhelming especially for people who have a higher chance of picking up something that won’t work out. I will say that using only fragrance free eliminates a lot of options and makes it easier

[@msi8311]

I’m 26 and have worn dumpy wide brimmed hats since I was 23. When I need to look nice I have an Eric Javits Daphne hat that has UPF protection and is super wide, fits well and looks beautiful. You can probably find the hat on sale various times of the year because it is an investment. But I’ve worn mine for years, get tons of compliments, sun protection can be cute too!

[@isabelab6851]

I love beach hats…channel the vibes of 60s movie star…think Katherine Hepburn or scarf, grace Kelly

[@Suzanne1999]

@@msi8311 Ok. I feel better now. I looked up the Javits hats and saw the Daphne. You're right; it's gorgeous! I'm gonna turn hats into a thing this summer. Now I'm kinda looking forward to it. Thanks!

[@Suzanne1999]

@@isabelab6851 Oh, wow. That's actually a great idea! Thanks.

[@resi2120]

I started using sunscreen daily one year ago due to your videos - now I just looked at pictures from 1 year ago und today and my hyperpigmentation got soooooo much better! Thank you!! ❤

[@alanam7261]

will you review the new vanicream spf 50 formula announced recently? i really love your reviews since you’ve tried so many spf formulas!

[@sleepystrugglz4586]

I'm really glad I don't go for outrage lemming responses. I use the lighter Korean sunscreens for my workdays...I work indoors with no windows and spend very little time in the sun. But if I'm going to spend all day in the sun, I go for 100% zinc oxide sunscreen. But no matter what type I apply, I slather a ton on and reapply.

[@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188]

So, since we tend to skip areas while applying sunscreen, don't reaply regularly and the SPF can't 100% trusted we may just start showering in sunscreen 😄

[@cinderella364]

Last week, the top korean skincare expert Director Pi, did report about the issue on her KZbin channel, along with her top sunscreens. .so interesting..I am still using the sunscreen indoors..

[@susieklein7461]

I LOVED that sunscreen for two years! Went through about 20 tubes. I live in a sunny region and no sunburn, ever...even at the beach!! Now, I have 13 sunscreens in my bathroom and hate them all! The chemical KILL my eyes and the mineral ones make me look about 120 years old (I have dry skin).

[@jemoryhime2022]

Oh god I absolutely feel you. Unfortunately I have the same issue. :(

[@lindywinthrop8260]

Try Hawaiian Tropic silk hydration spf 30 or 50.

[@susieklein7461]

@@lindywinthrop8260 oh my gosh, I actually had that in my hands at Target this week! I put it back as I now have 12 sunscreens on my vanity and hate all but 1 (Paula’s Choice Glow sunscreen). Thank you for the suggestion, I will give it a shot (and give the other 11 away to normal/oily skinned friends😊).

[@ellierk2880]

Replenix Sheer Physical Sunscreen SPF 50+ It's been my go to for about 2 years now. Always go back to it regardless of what else I try. I found it actually calms my redness (Rosacea). I think it's the green tea polyphenols.

[@leemealz6088]

I have Rosacea too and I'm struggling to find a sunscreen that doesn't irritate it, and that doesn't leave a white cast because I don't wear makeup. Does the Replenix leave a white cast when used at the proper 1/4 tsp amount? I am fair skinned but many untinted mineral sunscreens still leave a slight white cast on me, just enough that it makes me look sickly.

[@ellierk2880]

@@leemealz6088 Nope. One of the reasons I love it.

[@jennifersaylors3952]

Great points made here! Thank you, Dr. Dray.

[@DrDrayzday]

Thanks for watching

[@SportsStoleMyMan]

OK but seriously Dr Dray... You are GLOWWWWWWING. You’re always a glowing beautiful mythical goddess creature but the luminosity is next level in this vid. Maybe the lighting or that color on you? What is it? THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW

[@gogumadalpaengi]

"You wouldn't spray yourself with a flame retardant and jump into a fire pit." 😂 So true, and yet, I don't know a single person who uses sunscreen daily. Actually, an awful lot of them doesn't even apply sunscreen when sunbathing, going to the beach, etc, etc. Basically, they jump right into that pit and they don't even bother with retardant. Someone even once told me that using sunscreen every single day of the year surely can't be good for me, because that meant my skin wasn't 'used to the sun' and would therefor take greater damage if, I don't know, I ever forgot to put it on or something. Anyway, enough nonsense. Great video! :)

[@monica2757]

Thanks for the info, I have been baffled by all the misinformation going around.

[@manuelgonzalez785]

I was waiting so long for Dr.Dray 's opinion!!! I know she recommended it as a moisturizer!!! Since then I became also suspicious about the number of filters a sunscreen has....???....in my mind it was just to good to be true 🤔.....nevertheless, It doesn't stop me from trusting sunscreens...and I am still searching for the perfect one😃😃😃😃!!.. happy Thursday everyone!!!

[@dolcebelcanto3626]

I bought a few bottles of the Purito sunscreen just before the whole issue happened, and now I'm using it as a moisturizer for my arms because I have KP and the centella and slight spf helps. I did have issues with sunburn with this sunscreen, though - wore it in Florida and got badly burnt. Now I've switched to mineral-based sunscreens that I can get more easily where I live (that way I know the filters work, and I'm not stocking up). Currently using the Australian Gold Botanical SPF50 - very tinted, matte, love it.