Can you beat Cities Skylines 2 WITHOUT building a city?

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We're checking out Cities Skylines 2 (City Skyline 2) today, and this time we try and beat the game without building a city... It's Village Skylines!
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[@musicstage3457]

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[@davidmorris8333]

Cheers Matt! Can't beat a freebie

[@r390gt1lm]

I have built a rural town with only gravel roads, low density houses, industry only farming and logging. The town was in deep forest and looked stunning

[@BennyBroPlayz]

Hmmmmm... sounds like architecture 🤔

[@SLyttziyippe]

was it profitable tho? i mean RCE'S Cliff Village looked more architectural with that greenhouse design.

[@r390gt1lm]

@@SLyttziyippe it was very profitable due to forest industry and it created a huge forest around the village, there were forest gravel roads and individual homesteads in the woods

[@CosmicFurFace]

I've not managed to do this much in CS2. When the game was released, I managed 3 villages, one an industry town near ore and oil, on the Magnolia County map, which has 2-lane highways throughout, but no [divided] expressways. Vanilla was a pain, Thunderstore moreso. Tried again recently on Owen's Bay, only to have the game crashing regularly (I presume from mods, could not isolate the problem, abandoned). Eagerly awaiting asset modding: I miss leafy forest dirt roads, shotgun houses and shacks, tiny schools/pharmacy-healthcare/power/water, and all the other elements to build small "villages". I have no interest in huge skyscraper metros, and CS1 drew me in because it supported so many diverse playstyles. Like Real Civil Engineer...

[@DBT1007]

that gonna be great for horror film set. man.. if cities skylines 2 have industry like.. studio film or something like that and you need to have like.. either super amazing manmade scenery or super amazing natural scenery to make your studio film successful. also about the actors and funds.

[@oasntet]

After the economic update, it's far easier to dig yourself into a hole and go bankrupt. You can play with villages, but in general you need to slow down and address needs as they arise, keeping budgets low as things grow up. You want to stay cash positive at all times, and that often means waiting a while for existing buildings to level up so they can pay more taxes.

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

Yeah, from what I have seen of this update the game is a bit more like the og SimCity2000 where you couldn't willy nilly paint up areas without demand or it would bankrupt you lickity-split. It's looking like you need to focus on one area and slowly build it up as demands and needs arise rather than just because. For example Matt plopped down like 5 elementary schools and a high school well before there was really any demand for "highly skilled labor", thus wasting a CRAPTON of money for really nothing.

[@m4c0br]

Slow down? Yeah. Not a Matt thing. 😂😂😂

[@MrT3a]

So, the usual smart way to play a city builder?

[@lukevandevenis9780]

Here in The Netherlands there are villages inside of cities; most of the times when cities keep growing they surround small villages who are close by and they just absorb them. But sometimes the villages want to stay independent and then you have enclaves of villages inside city’s. One instance of this is ‘Oostendorp’ inside of ‘Elburg’ a city in the province Gelderland.

[@BleuSquid]

I wish there were more rural build options. We have septic tanks and wells out here. The only thing we need to get from the road come over wires!

[@vendelin1081]

10:30 matt did not notice the nearly done strongest shape

[@adwaithadwika550]

I thought I was seeing things Guess I'm not the only one

[@Hetnikik]

Yea, I saw it too. I think he is just blind to it anymore.

[@m4c0br]

I was waiting for the joke. It never came. I’m worried about Matt now.

[@VekhGaming]

You could've just done a sneaky and build a normal city. Then say "Its a village, it doesn't have city rights". Works for the other European villages making fun of nearby smaller cities.

[@ichanmich]

I live in a village of 200 or so people. The next town has 1500. When my colleagues talk about this cute village with 4k inhabitants, I'm like "village?! wth are you talking about? that's a city!"

[@spin4team4096]

​@@ichanmich For 4k, I'd say it's a town. But definitely not a village!

[@infinitenex8165]

I think youre using roads that are way too wide for a European style village. Ud rarely see 4 lane roads and highways being the main village infrastructure. Also, town squares are a thing. You need some central feature that the village sprawls out from.

[@jt5765]

Most villages are just built alongside B roads though with streets off that. I've lived in rural Somerset all my 35yr life & it's the minority of villages that have a central green area. You might say the nicer ones do but villages come in a vast array of shapes & sizes.

[@infinitenex8165]

@@jt5765 Most Bulgarian villages have a central square. It doesnt have to be a park, but a least a wider path area with a clock tower, a chirch ir at least the mayor's building. Few Bulgarian villages dont sprawl like that, and those are the ones that follow a narrow river bank and cant have such a central feature.

[@MrBrownapple10]

Hamlet->village->town->city->metropolis-> mega city->megalopolis

[@DarkChaos87]

Missing one more....... ->ecumenopolis

[@rubidiumeater]

wait ‘till you get to the theotown city levels

[@bonnbybike]

In Germany: Gehöft > Dorf > Ort/Siedlung > Stadt (Kleinstadt, Mittelstadt, Großstadt) > Millionenstadt > Megastadt

[@charlesingram9471]

What killed it for you was Tile upkeep. Install the 529 tiles mod and turn down the tile upkeep till youre happy, mine is set at 40% but i have all tiles unlocked.

[@CosmicFurFace]

Or just check "unlock map tiles" in map options.

[@chandradvaipayana872]

City Skylines II: Unique Building exist RCE : Oooh! It's a new village theme.

[@SkyGuyGaminYT]

if you want inspiration, Ocracoke Island, North Carolina is classified as a village. not a single 4 lane road in sight, and only 960 people live there.

[@xijaomao]

My neighboring village only has 500 people.

[@blob0000]

A tip is to use the zoning mod! Then you can choose where you want to zone without using paths.

[@agathoklesmartinios8414]

01:15: "Sorry, I'm like, real engineer nerding out" Real Civil EngiNerd

[@AeroSparrow]

As a new englander who lives in a village, we have villages everywhere! A lot of the time multiple villages make up one town! 0:28

[@localhardware]

12:14 Matt : They could sell Tables and chairs ❌ Sticks for dogs ✅

[@writili]

0:41 "Imagine All The Bridges" this remind me of a song on spotify

[@Mrnachocheese69]

Village skylines? Villages have skylines?

[@RealCivilEngineerGaming]

They do now!!

[@Mrnachocheese69]

​@@RealCivilEngineerGamingyou made my day, I'm screaming at my parents rn

[@duplicake4054]

@@Mrnachocheese69 💀

[@CRemy-pk1fh]

​@@Mrnachocheese69calm down lil bro 💀

[@gabydonpatron3755]

@@RealCivilEngineerGamingeditor sucks

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

Revisit this premise but play it differently... you CAN NOT play CS2 like CS1, so you cant have a district of shops 6 miles away from where people live and expect the shops to do well... you need to start out with a little town center and save space for future buildings. A main street with shops, a major road near the highway or railway for industrial and shopping and side streets for residental neighborhoods with shops closer to the major intersections. Go walk around where you live, look at how homes, shops and industry is actually laid out and attempt to recreate a realistic layout for your villages. Then focus on one villagenor maybe 2 until they both level up and become prosperous before expanding and adding things like a Highschool for when you ACTUALLY need "Highly skilled laborers". Expand each village slowly as you come across new demands and necessities instead of well before thus wasting money. Im not gonna lie, id actually love to see you take on a more serious and realistically laid out city for a youtube series where you still do some silly things and have fun. I just think altering the way you layout zoning to be more realistic will take your cities much further and much more easily than trying to play it like CS1. Id binge the crap outta that series man!

[@WiglyWorm]

you need to look at the revenue tab and see what you're exporting and importing. Build specialized industry and become a net exporter. special farms like cotton and carrot don't need to be on fertile land, only base farms. excited for this series.

[@parkerpriestley2922]

RCE should play Theo Town

[@samanyupalthi]

Oh yes he should

[@Dark_Link09]

Theo Town is really fun he should try it out

[@MateriaGirl]

The tile upkeep update really ruined playing like this. They need a middle ground system. It was so fun when the game launched to make small areas around the map that supported each other- but now it's way too expensive to do it.

[@CosmicFurFace]

I've suggested basing upkeep on more than just "how many tiles you have" and "resources". Geared more toward "improvements made". Roads add upkeep, highways more; farms add based on coverage, also houses and their density and level, etc. It should be very cheap to support a dozen tiles with an electric line to the map edge, relative to one tile with a downtown. Perhaps even base some cost on how many surrounding tiles are owned (making several small isolated groups cheaper than one big mass). Anything but the simple, punishing, escalating cost that appears to penalize any building style but "mega metropolis". And anyway, escalating cost by number of tiles owned isn't very realistic. Real estate (both purchase and maintenance) costs what it costs; a plot of land sells (more or less) the same whether the buyer owns one or a thousand other plots.

[@razorblade7108]

​@@CosmicFurFaceHaving costs because of owning a tile is just stupid. A city simply pays for the maintenance of its infrastructure. There are no costs of having empty land somewhere.

[@FabiVoltair]

@@CosmicFurFace Yes yes yes

[@itslarsplaying]

I'm a german who lives in a village. I can say that there are lots of villages in germany

[@CosmicFurFace]

Thanks for your unique takes on the game! You sound like you'd be good company in a pub (once we're drunk enough to stand each other).

[@flappjackk.1]

This video is how every single yorkshire town was formed

[@ScribletAndBits]

Have you done a street-less city? Basically everything is pedestrian/public transportation, but everyone will move in, park their cars in $50 a day parking, only to -never use their car again-. Tons of free tax dollars. I put underground alleys up to Large Parking lots, as people wanted close parking for the cars that they -will never use again-.

[@Zaquria]

I think there should be a collaboration between yourself, Overcharged Egg or Real City Planner or Biffa to build a city, but you don't take it seriously while they have too, and you each take turns building the city. So, you do poop mountains and they don't.

[@SebsTruckStop]

This is how I usually play tho 😭 I usually make one medium sized town, and then loads of outlying hamlets, villages and small towns. I feel like it’s a much more fun and varied way to play as you get to explore different terrain, scenery, transport options, juggle the logistics of it all, it’s so fun!

[@Side_eye_emoji]

I love you cities skyline videos!

[@hatmos91]

I think if you had one central town then have villages surrounding it it might work better

[@NocturnalPyro]

0:41 You wouldn't really have bridges for that, you'd prolly go with a single ferry that goes once every week.

[@MrWiffit]

12:58 All these "villages" aren't even the size of one Village in game.

[@57thorns]

It is the return of our favourite Village Skylines architect. Sets out with a completely unrealistic idea and then creates the worst city in history.

[@CosmicFurFace]

"Creating the worst... in history" time after time is truly an art form, and Real Civil Engineer is a master thereof. 🙏

[@musicstage3457]

that sponsor segment was so perfect

[@bobiboulon]

In real life, you generally have a bigger town where you'll find a high school, a clinic, some offices, a big commercial center on the side, etc. And connected to that town, you'll have villages that are mostly houses, some small proximity shops, their own elementary school if they are big enough, and loads of agricultural areas. If you have industry, it will be closer to the bigger town, but not directly stuck to it (no one wants to live near industry, somehow), same for a power plant. Of course, in real life villages are farther appart from each other and look less artificial since they "grew up naturally" during centuries (well, you also have new ones popping out, but they look like square tumors growing from main roads connecting old villages to the bigger town) - but you do what you can with what City Skyline gives you.

[@Baseline808]

Can’t wait for RCE to have his own flavor for GamerSupps. Can’t wait to try out Architect Tears. 😂

[@penguinboyplayz9692]

this guy can boost anything into existence, he can boosh some brilliant gamer supps he can boosh some Village Skylines into exsistance. and he can Boosh a Good ol' truss bridge.

[@CosmicFurFace]

Yes, he's truly a Masterboosher.

[@stubbysidwell]

"Let's Rub Noses Like the Eskimoses" but RCE Style: "All Good Villages are Built Around Bridges" Coming to Spotify and Now That's What I Call Engineering Vol 68. Notice to Train Enthusiasts: "That's What I Call Engineering" does not involve trains...unless they are going over a bridge.

[@james2042]

In the original cities skylines 2 pre economy update you could unlock every milestone without ever having a single citizen. People took to the spreadsheets to min/max both the fastest way to do it and the cheapest way to do it.

[@doiccerik4525]

I mean, this is what i do in this game, so it's a completely normal video for me lol

[@matteyas]

i haven't even watched it yet, but gosh darn it, village skylines is such a good idea. :)

[@codyopperman5930]

You didn't pick the best flavor, grandpa's ashes

[@ek_films]

I can't imagine the overlap between the Goons fanbase and the RCE fanbase is very big, but here we are. I'M FEELING ALIVE

[@jakubsebelik293]

I think you build a small town, normal vilage in europe (Czechia) have onli some houses around one road

[@von186]

i think another consideration is that CS2 is very car centric, and villages are sorta meant to be the opposite... small and close together.

[@spyro4542]

0:42 yeah imagine all the bridges that got your mouth drooling didn't it.

[@heavyarms55]

That shit with using the paths to fix the zoning in CS2? Why the hell is that a thing? Every time I play CS2 (it makes me want to play CS1 instead) and this zoning issue happens! Even when using the dedicated grid tool, if it's off by like .001% of a single pixel, the zoning is never right. I end up redrawing roads over and over and building and destroying paths over and over just to get it right.

[@VinceP1974]

Poor thing

[@TheUncommonPen]

I actually watch a youtuber called Seniactwo who made a series entirely on villages called Farmtown. (Then again, it was more like towns (maybe even cities) scattered with a few villages dotted here and there.)

[@SlateTiara]

I was so rooting for this to work! Mainly because I grew up in an area like this I suppose? But a lot of the economy relied on the giant nearby industry zones where everyone's dad had a decent paying job at Shell, Philip Morris, etc. However in the Netherlands there were many rural area's that thrived on local fishery and farms. Too bad they're now marginalized by stupid laws that incriminate them of being not environemental friendly, while those huge polluting factories have no issues at all. So I guess CS2 is pretty realistic at that.

[@caynebyron]

Suburban Sprawl Simulator

[@Suzuki_Hiakura]

Only ever frequented one corner shop that overcharged me every time, and only charged me the listed price of pop once... other times was 4-8 dollars over (for a 12 pack). Shopped only a half dozen times before walking a ways further to buy knockoff pop and oros (knockoff oreos you can buy at 66 cents a pack).

[@jdotoz]

How many points did you put into charisma?

[@duo60692]

and now we are one step closer to a ShylillyxRCE crossover and thats not something i ever thought would be possible.

[@min-magicks]

HGTV homebuyers be like "I sell sticks for dogs. Our budget is 2.5 million."

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

What's next? Barn Skylines? Outhouse Skylines?! BACKYARD SHACK SKYLINES?!

[@CosmicFurFace]

Regarding your early exclamation of "Island Village Skylines!": The breaking of the Barges Mod marked the end of my CS1 play, as that isolated all the island and riverside villages without road/rail which I'd been building for many months. I'm saddened there's no ferry/barge transit yet in the game. Everything requires a road or rail. And I've just given up on Tile Upkeep, checking Unlock Map Tiles in the Map Options. Lacking the tiny modded services assets like CS1 makes it a difficult play style (fingers crossed for asset modding). Thanks for your amusing takes on the game!

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

While i dont own or play this game, unfortunately, i gotta say that Economics Update and the additional SIZES of some buildings is AMAZING! now if only they could add either new sizes for a Cemetary or a way to hand-craft your own Cemetaries, Parks and Shopping Centers (strip malls and malls in general), that would be fantastic!

[@jt5765]

I live in somerset & pretty much every village that exists is way bigger than any you put in here. Coat the smallest village in the area I grew up has about 40 houses & 0 amenities. It is however close to Martock which is what you might call a small market town. I'd say its just a very big village though with population of slightly less than 5k. Villages come in a vast array of shapes & sizes. You could certainly get away with beginning your build with a Martockesque type large village followed by the smaller satellite villages that surround it.

[@thegamingteen44mc5]

You should return to Engi2pia and perhaps make a district that has a nice amount oof bridges (either 69 or 420, depending on what you can afford)

[@noobiesnackz]

I've built a village/town map on the most recent update. You just have to be super budget conscious. You have to make decisions based on what your budget can afford, not what you have unlocked.

[@yghorbeviahn4425]

Curious to see how it would play out if all small roads were one way roads with a dead end, maybe add a car park at the end of every road

[@guillaumekaas6505]

To be fair these villages are pretty small. With a compact center built around row housing, developping with single family low density, going up to 1k ppl per community, using crap roads as much as possible, delaying and rationing some services as long as possible and relying on mass transit for some of them like schools, it may be possible.

[@jeffcraymore]

The terms podunk and Podunk Hollow in American English denote or describe an insignificant, out-of-the-way, or even completely fictitious town. These terms are often used in the upper case as a placeholder name, to indicate "insignificance" and "lack of importance" But at the density, close to one another, of the villages we refer to them as neighborhoods.

[@Fat_Ratcoon]

i like this concept. ive tried adding villages to the side of my city *swiss style* up in the mountains n shizz hell yeah

[@gaolen]

this is how i usually managed to progress into the first game without crashing every 5 minutes on my potato laptop

[@Bjarkiee]

4:56 You don't have to wait for buildings to appear to take away the paths, the zoning shouldn't change if it's colored in

[@blazikem]

19:15 Strong Towns proven right

[@JeffWirsing]

4:16 Gotta watch out for Steve Wallis in that thing

[@benjamingibson7999]

I loved this video, I think we should try it again maybe in a different way if you can think of it. Also could you build an island village community where ships are a major method of travel rather than cars

[@mightymouse1926]

How about a reverse city, where everything you should do to make a successful city do the opposite. Multilane highways as residential roads small residential roads as main thoroughfares. Industry intermingled into residential etc.

[@MaikKellerhals]

Can you tell your editor to let go of the annoying memes all the time? Or is it just me? That''s really not what I'm here for. I'm here for YOUR humour and commentary. I watch these videos DESPITE the bad editing...

[@Average2022]

Anytime I see your comments, I see you complain about the smallest of things... I'm just saying...

[@lionzzz]

Ikr. The editor for timberborners and poly bridge should be the only editor imo. Hes the perfect editor. This editor just spams memes.

[@Leeon_King]

Nah, it’s not just you. I just end up not watching the rest and move on.

[@Stephenbanes]

Get some tissues

[@MaikKellerhals]

@@Average2022 Yes, a small thing, but a thing that gets me annoyed, so i write a comment. What's wrong with that?

[@harrisonsciberras2563]

Not Badger getting a free sponsor deal for his Guacamole Gamer Fart flavour from the most Realistic Civil Engineer 😂

[@PengyBoi111]

Pls make this a series

[@ADBBuild]

14:28 Welcome to Washington State. You get used to it.

[@leepatterson5710]

"I think villages are really a European thing not American." You should travel to the midwest at some point, there are tons of "villages" all over the place. Oftentimes along railways every 7 miles you will find small 250-1000 people towns where the gain from the rural farms are transported to. The reason for every 7 miles is that the location of the water station for locomotives needed to be so they could refill.

[@vifonoh]

14:27 top 5 messi acoustic moments

And that is why Engineers are not urban planners. (two different jobs :p )

[@larunaaxthemischievous9762]

RCE discovered the problems of North America with urban sprawl and a lack of efficient infrastructure

[@JudasBoB270]

This should be good fun to watch 😁

[@jamoecw]

You are building suburbs and not villages. If people can't park on their own property it isn't a village.

[@xijaomao]

What suburbs actually have shops near homes?

[@jamoecw]

@@xijaomao Martinez, CA. Walnut Creek, CA. Danville, CA. Pleasanton, CA. Lafayette, CA. Dublin, CA. I could keep going on just suburbs of Oakland, CA or I could pick a different city, but suburbs have shops almost every time.

[@xijaomao]

Usually there is a long distance between low-density residential and commercial and you have to go on stroads to get to stores or towns and there often are food deserts and such as they say. Zoning laws suck in america and there needs to be more mixed-use properties and stores in the suburbs in walking distance.

[@jamoecw]

@@xijaomao You are completely correct, but that goes into my overall point. Towns have councils and tend to have less layers of bureaucracy, and thus corruption allowing for less stupid regulations like no parking in front of your own house. Zoning is another stupid regulation that you don't see enforced very much in smaller communities like towns. There was a time when the council members would not care about food deserts and just want cheap track housing, but for the past 20ish years they want winding roads, smaller parks and shopping centers, and other things built into the planning for housing developments. Of course all of this comes at the cost of the developer, and more is asked each election cycle while permit offices drag their feet and delay the development to help suck every penny they can from the developer.

[@thepepchannel7940]

The fact that city skylines is very much based on north American city planning is the core reason I have never bothered. North American urban landscapes are some of the worst cityscapes. Grids, wide streets, highways through cities, car centric and single-use zoning. Not the kinds of cities I’d like to create

[@blankblankness2971]

I never thought you’d incorporate that King of the Hill meme.

[@squiggle463]

i started to have flashbacks of when @Let'sgameitout played on this map.

[@Mike__B]

The problem with this game (or at least it's predecessor) is that you can't really do anything without lots of dirty industry, like come on I just want a small suburban area without some retail or offices and that's it, no industry, no farming, and be like the real world and import everything for retail. You can import power, you should be able to import demand if a particular industry.

[@xijaomao]

I live in a north american village next to a few other ones as they are not big enough to be towns.

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

"I feel like Villages are more of a European thing" Over here in the USA in Michigan theres quite a few "villages" i have to drive past/through on my way to a scout camp i used to work at.

[@serhiitheguy]

real civil engineer posted a new cities skylines video, the day is saved

[@xijaomao]

What village has underground power lines?

[@DaxRaider]

You ever tried the sowjet republic City builder? Seems the most realistic and hard one ever

[@graduator14]

I'm enjoying this playthough of Skylines 2!

[@dskews]

The more this video went on, the more this area just became Hampshire, even down to screwing people over with surprise tax rises even as service expenditure is cut.

[@MattnUska]

This is how I normally play CS. I grew up in an area that wasn’t super populated.

[@aceman67.]

No way, they added Gamer Supps in Cities Skylines 2 6:17

[@viktorfunk1819]

Everything I learned about Cities Skylines II made me think of the game as "Road Simulator 2000". I didn't buy it.

[@theflyingshunter]

Everytime RCE uses an unnecessary bridge, he is a Archineer (Architect Engineer) Using engineering for Architect purposes

[@chillicheesedog7522]

Gotta say, this is pretty satisfying.

[@MrWiffit]

Love this idea. Good editing as well!

[@0Defensor0]

American is building "European style village" with 4 lane roads and cul-de-sac structure... no dirt roads, no water towers, no literally a mile long single street settlements. But at least we have parking lots. Lots of parking lots.

[@Doc_Fartens]

the editor of this one should get a raise. really well done

[@aliasjonespickleguy7017]

"Villages are more of a European thing" clearly you've never been to wisconsin

[@NarbsTheGreat]

Im curious if you'd do a video on Sim City 4, you can even drive vehicles

[@nicodorth7670]

A thing im Kinds disturbed by cs2 is the Focus on low density Housing basically forcing you to villages And the inhabitants pay 400 cimcash as Rent where the high density people pay 9 cimcash And tbh if I choose the european style I want more people focusing on high to med density which they have the financial capability to move to And then move to lower density instead of going for houses as a startingpoint. It just stops my buildingcap And tbh it doesnt make Sense that a houseowner needs to pay 10-100x the Rent of „luxury“ apartments in their low Density housing. And then theres the cheap high density which should be the true starting Point for a True european behaviour.

[@nicodorth7670]

Right now the behaviour is mainly „american“ Build a House And then move to the cities for convienience which doesnt work with my european understanding especially with the insight on the true household wealth